View Full Version : Fallout or Fable
Loki_09
10-31-2008, 09:31 AM
Sorry if this was posted in another thread, but I couldnt find it. Anyway, I plan on dumping some cash on one game, and one game only until Christmas. It's eitehr going to be Fallout 3 or Fable 2, but I can't make a decision. I love both IP's, and have strongly considered flipping a coin in the store. Since both have been out for at least a few days, I'm looking for some input from those who have tried them (I haven't played either yet). What do you guys think?
Psykoboy2
10-31-2008, 09:38 AM
Well, if that's your plan, you need to put your money into something that will give you quite a bit of playtime. Fallout 3 is your winner here. I mean, there's tons to do in Fable 2 as well, but it's a bit repetitive.
By the time you are done with Fallout 3, you should be able to trade it in and pay very little for Fable 2, if you want to do that.
Loki_09
10-31-2008, 09:43 AM
Is the scope of Fallout 3 on the same level as Oblivion?
KingGorilla
10-31-2008, 09:43 AM
The Witcher Enhanced Edition.
Mortis
10-31-2008, 09:45 AM
Fable 2 is good but after putting Fallout 3 in the drive I have not even considered going back to Fable 2. It will have to wait until I have finished Fallout 3.
Loki_09
10-31-2008, 09:49 AM
The Witcher Enhanced Edition.
My PC would melt. I haven't pulled the trigger on an upgrade in a loooong time.
carnage11
10-31-2008, 09:52 AM
Fallout 3 will last ya longer. I haven't played Fable 2 yet, but from what I've heard from friends Fallout 3 is the better game. We're talking GOTY here. Grab it quick.
Mr.Green
10-31-2008, 09:53 AM
The more I play Fable 2, the more I like it. Awesome game. Being a dog nut enough to have your puppy as an avatar probably helps. :)
Fallout 3 looks awesome too. Just ebay a fucking kidney and get both.
Widgetcraft
10-31-2008, 09:55 AM
I prefer Fable 2 by quite a bit. It's just a more fun and unique experience. Fallout 3 is good too though, and there is probably more time that can be sunk into it in sheer sidequests. I would still argue that Fable 2 is the more fun of the two, but it's only 20ish hours, counting sidequests.
raymeswh
10-31-2008, 09:55 AM
Well, if that's your plan, you need to put your money into something that will give you quite a bit of playtime. Fallout 3 is your winner here. I mean, there's tons to do in Fable 2 as well, but it's a bit repetitive.
By the time you are done with Fallout 3, you should be able to trade it in and pay very little for Fable 2, if you want to do that.
That's the exact reason i voted for Fable, with limited time for gaming btwn jobs and whatnot, you should have just enough time to complete fable to a reasonable degree w/ sidequests
TheKeck
10-31-2008, 09:56 AM
Personally, I'm very excited for Fallout 3 and not at all interested in Fable 2, so my choice was easy.
I went with "fallout 3", fable 2 just didn't grab me.. at all :/
Iron Past
10-31-2008, 10:12 AM
I prefer Fable 2 by quite a bit. It's just a more fun and unique experience. Fallout 3 is good too though, and there is probably more time that can be sunk into it in sheer sidequests. I would still argue that Fable 2 is the more fun of the two, but it's only 20ish hours, counting sidequests.
I'm in this camp. Fallout 3 will last (much) longer, but after playing for about five hours, I went back to mess around in Fable II for a little bit longer and finish it up. Personally, and this is just my opinion so don't jump me, Fallout 3 isn't GoTY material (not as far as I've played, at least), and I'm having much more fun with Fable II--which for me is closer to GoTY.
Also remember that Fallout 3 is a much deeper experience, and Fable II still has a few bugs till they patch it. I'll also mention I have every intention of playing through Fable II again, and soon, and won't with Fallout 3 unless I'm really bored.
Loki_09
10-31-2008, 10:12 AM
I'm surprised this poll is so lopsided, but then again, it makes my decision easier...
Lithium Flower
10-31-2008, 10:13 AM
Likewise, I was really intrigued by the Fable franchise and then I looked up a few screenshots and gameplay video captures and found it pretty meh. Fallout 3 on the other hand looks and promises to be better than sex (well almost)!
National Kato
10-31-2008, 10:18 AM
I'm trying to love Fable 2, I really am. And I'm a bit miffed at all the hype that stated Fable 2 was improved in every way. I guess I just still feel it's RPG-Lite and too much like the first...and well, I don't really need the simplicity and buggy play and hobbled freedom.
Fallout 3 stands well above in every way.
...and for Mr. Green, Fallout 3 has a dog companion too!
Mr.Green
10-31-2008, 10:21 AM
I'm surprised this poll is so lopsided, but then again, it makes my decision easier...
Do you honestly believe everyone voting has played both, let alone enough to have a more insightful opinion than the quarter lying in your pocket? ;)
Also, one is a console exclusive, the other is not. Riddle me this.
EternalGamer
10-31-2008, 10:22 AM
Fable 2 has a lot more "instant gratification, pick up and play" feel. It also provides you a lot of side quests to muck around with casually without overwhelming you. I actually found it more addicting than Fallout 3 thus far. But admitedly, I have only played the later for about an hour thus far.
Fable 2 has a lot more "instant gratification, pick up and play" feel. It also provides you a lot of side quests to muck around with casually without overwhelming you. I actually found it more addicting than Fallout 3 thus far. But admitedly, I have only played the later for about an hour thus far.
Once you get out of the Vault...the real world opens up to you. I easily spent an hour in the Vault just fiddling around. Explore the area around Megaton and you'll get into some action very quickly.
Loki_09
10-31-2008, 10:27 AM
Do you honestly believe everyone voting has played both, let alone enough to have a more insightful opinion than the quarter lying in your pocket? ;)
Also, one is a console exclusive, the other is not. Riddle me this.
Yes yes, granted its not a completely scientific poll, but that really doesnt matter. I'm just looking for a little push in one direction or the other at the moment. :)
Ancalagon
10-31-2008, 10:35 AM
Seeing as Fable wont work on my Magic PC, I'm stuck with Fallout, not that I mind.
National Kato
10-31-2008, 10:36 AM
Do you honestly believe everyone voting has played both...
I don't know. My 360 friend's list has been populated with Fable 2 and then Fallout 3 entirely...and usually the same people. I think a lot of us do own both.
MalReynolds
10-31-2008, 10:36 AM
finished Fable 2 in three days now im into fallout but in a week when gears comes ill forget about fallout
Nerdious
10-31-2008, 11:18 AM
D. Farcry 2
Seriously I bought all 3, and while fable is fun and fallout is fallout. Nothing comes close to the badassness of Farcry.
crazyD
10-31-2008, 11:26 AM
D. Farcry 2
Seriously I bought all 3, and while fable is fun and fallout is fallout. Nothing comes close to the badassness of Farcry.
Fallout 3 is a lot of things, but I'm still not sure it's Fallout.
TheSilentDeath
10-31-2008, 12:09 PM
As some one that was going to go the get fable 2 and wait on Fallout 3 route I voted Fallout 3. Seriously after playing like an hour and a half of Fallout I can't wait to get my grubby little hands back on it. Now I'm just glad that I have to money to get both.
NoName
10-31-2008, 12:12 PM
Fallout 3!!! Do it.
Just finished Fable last night. Started Fallout 3 on Wednesday night. I'd need to play Fallout a little more before giving a definitive answer. Both are so different, but I really enjoyed Fable and am liking Fallout a lot so far too.
Basically, a useless answer haha.
johnperkins21
10-31-2008, 12:48 PM
I voted Fallout 3.
Fable is very fun, with some good humor, tons of things to do and some great fighting. However, I'm enjoying the story and setting in Fallout much more.
I honestly don't think you can go wrong with either one. You should have fun with both, if you like that sort of game. One thing to make note of is that Fable has a lot of The Sims-type stuff to deal with, that for me, has gotten incredibly monotonous and boring. I still enjoy doing the quests, but after a few hours, I'm pretty much done with the whole dance around like a monkey to get people to like me thing.
You'll probably get more time from Fallout in a single playthrough, but Fable will likely give you more incentive to play it multiple times. Personally, I see myself enjoying Fallout 3 more than Fable 2, though I do like them both. I'd say pick the one whose setting you like more, and buy the other one used in a couple months after you're done with whatever game you choose first.
Virtual Machine
10-31-2008, 12:48 PM
Fable 2 was great until i was snared by Farcry 2. Farcry 2 is amazing, but Fallout 3 owns me body and soul.
You know a game is good when you get up early in the morning to play a few hours before work.
Fable 2 just made me want to go back and play the first one, which i did, and which i actually prefer to the sequel.
Cyndair
10-31-2008, 01:25 PM
Do you honestly believe everyone voting has played both, let alone enough to have a more insightful opinion than the quarter lying in your pocket? ;)
Also, one is a console exclusive, the other is not. Riddle me this.
Guilty. I've only played Fallout 3 and I wanted to further justify / rationalize my purchase by voting for it in this poll. Thank you for allowing me to feel better about myself and the decisions that I've made. :p
Oh, and the game is good.
violent
10-31-2008, 01:26 PM
Fallout 3 = game of the year.
EternalGamer
10-31-2008, 02:40 PM
This might help you make your decision:
uIEqcRtVVpk
Fallout 3 is not in any way a FPS game with RPG elements. It is Oblivion with guns superglued on top. Some people may not mind that just like they didn't mind the dumb AI and awkward fighting in Mass Effect. But personally I never liked Mass Effect; I thought it was a sloppy attempt at blending the genres and I'm beginning to feel the same way about Fallout 3. The world is great but the basic gameplay seems sloppy.
Watch enemies do dumb things while you run backwards and shoot them in the head 30 times is not what I would call innovative gameplay.
violent
10-31-2008, 02:47 PM
I also think that video is a bad attempt at discrediting a particular aspect of Fallout 3. It's an RPG and it's about stats, not fucking counter-strike. Try to get someone who has only played CoD4 in his life and put him down in a D&D game and he's gonna bitch that a magic missile doesn't obliterate his opponent in a single shot. It's a big difference between a standard FPS and a stat based RPG. Be smarter and realize that difference.
EternalGamer
10-31-2008, 02:50 PM
I do understand the difference, but I just never thought the gameplay in Oblivion was all that interesting. Compared to a traditional RPG, it lacks strategy and compared to a action game, it doesn't require any skill or positioning. Instead you just backpedal while wailing away at things. Granted, I played Oblivion till I got all 1000/1000 achievement points, but it was really more of a "time killer" game. I'm disappointed that Fallout is basically the same gameplay set in a different world. Bioshock and Valkerie Chronicles are much better examples of how to blend the genres in my opinion.
violent
10-31-2008, 02:56 PM
I do understand the difference, but I just never thought the gameplay in Oblivion was all that interesting. Compared to a traditional RPG, it lacks much strategy and compared to a action game, it doesn't require any skill. Instead you just backpedal while wailing away at things. Granted, I played Oblivion till I got all 1000/1000 achievement points, but it was really more of a "time killer" game. I'm disappointed that Fallout is basically the same gameplay set in a different world. Bioshock and Valkerie Chronicles are much better examples of how to blend the genres in my opinion.
That is not correct though. The mechanics in Oblivion were vastly different than that of Fallout 3. In Oblivion, you could run around in circles and level up certain aspects of your character whereas Fallout is on an experience point system. This may not seem like much but it has a huge impact in the way they each progress and evolve. The V.A.T.S system alone completely changes the manner of battle in comparison to that of Oblivion.
One could argue that Fallout 3 is simply Oblivion with a Fallout skin and although that can be arguably true, it's only a fraction in comparison to everything else Fallout brings to the table. And for what it's worth, I never liked Oblivion. Tried playing that game on 3 different platforms on three separate occasions and none of them ever stuck. Fallout on the other hand is truly an amazing experience. Right now, easily my game of the year.
johnperkins21
10-31-2008, 03:18 PM
uIEqcRtVVpk
What the hell is that camel thing? And where do I get one?
Variable Gear
10-31-2008, 03:44 PM
I won't say what I voted for, but you should probably pick up Banjo.
This might help you make your decision:
uIEqcRtVVpk
The player in that video is a fucktard. He is using a standard pistol, and it is need of repair. That is part of the reason that the video plays out the way that it does. I do agree, however, that the overall shooter mechanics of Fallout 3 leave a lot to be desired. You've got to depend on VATS quite a bit to get anything done, and the zoom functionality is far too limited. For example, why can't you take advantage of iron sights when your current weapon has them? There are a bunch of other things I could legitimately nitpick, but it is a disservice to the CoG community to suggest that anyone would be as stupid as the fucker who recorded that video.
johnperkins21
10-31-2008, 04:15 PM
The player in that video is a fucktard. He is using a standard pistol, and it is need of repair. That is part of the reason that the video plays out the way that it does. I do agree, however, that the overall shooter mechanics of Fallout 3 leave a lot to be desired. You've got to depend on VATS quite a bit to get anything done, and the zoom functionality is far too limited. For example, why can't you take advantage of iron sights when your current weapon has them? There are a bunch of other things I could legitimately nitpick, but it is a disservice to the CoG community to suggest that anyone would be as stupid as the fucker who recorded that video.
Just because I am as stupid as that fucktard...
My guess is that he intentionally used a pistol in disrepair to prove his point. Anyone expecting to play this game like they do Halo or Call of Duty, as has already been mentioned, is missing the point. I think this guy may have been one of those dudes.
Just because you're in a First Person view, doesn't make this an FPS. Apparently some people have a problem realizing that.
tombofsoldier
10-31-2008, 05:23 PM
Not nearly enough love for Fable 2 :( . I think to many people were expecting things it never promised to deliver. It's a light and fun game, it's funny and a lot of fun to fool around in. It's not a game about making tough decisions or super immersive roleplay. It's a game about dressing your character up, banging two chicks at once, and shooting annoying Irish gargoyles. Once you get it it's a ton of fun, but I'm pretty sure the developers had far different goals than Fallout 3's had.
Widgetcraft
10-31-2008, 05:49 PM
Not nearly enough love for Fable 2 :(
It's a light and fun game, it's funny and a lot of fun to fool around in.
This is the only reason it is trailing in the poll.
It's not a game about making tough decisions
I disagree with this, however; Fable 2 offers some of the toughest choices in the history of gaming. They come with real consequences and benefits, and like the story overall, can affect you on an emotional level. Believe me when I say that this is not something you'll find in Fallout 3, anymore than you did in Oblivion.
Purple Santa
11-01-2008, 11:09 AM
I am all alone in voting neither :eek:
I think they are two different games but I see you just need to pick one. So I say don't. Pick another. LBP. No PS3? Go with Banjo (VG is correct on that choice). No love for platformers? Gears of War. No love for FPS? Left 4 Dead. Play with others. That will keep you busy. Or just try reading some good books until Xmas then you can have both. Then you can dismantle the poll :eek:
And I have both FO3 and Fable 2. Haven't played either so I couldn't say which one to play. See my "neither" vote was a real one...
Wolvie
11-01-2008, 02:30 PM
Well I just traded Silent Hill: Homecoming and Star Wars: The force unleashed(both were very average) and got $73. Yeah, yeah, I know...
Anyways, I was faced with a VERY tough decision. Get either Saints Row 2 or Fallout 3. I went with Fallout 3 since I loved Oblivion. I'll play some Fallout 3 tonight and see where it stands with Fable 2, then come back and vote.
Kelegacy
11-01-2008, 09:55 PM
Fallout 3 hands down. Fable 2 was fun, but Fallout 3 is my new addiction. Fable 2 seemed...not linear, but simple. I grew a bit bored, whereas with Fable 1 I was enthralled. I don't know, I just don't like the whole interaction schemes. Farting to win peoples' attention, that sort of stuff. It feels very juvenile sometimes, and I didn't really enjoy the story that much, what I played of it. Plus I was having terrible image problems with my copy. It looked horribly blurred, like someone smeared KY all over the screen and make me play with my contacts off. I may have got a bad copy or something, since I tried it out on 2 tvs. I sent it back to Gamefly after 2 or 3 days.
But Fallout 3? Yeah, I'm glad I bought it. First $60 game I bought since GTA IV. I'm so happy with it after being leery about Bethesda doing it, and it being in first-person. This one will take me 100 hours or so and I won't even know it.
Schnoogs
11-01-2008, 10:39 PM
wow...I think this poll is pretty much in the bag
Wolvie
11-02-2008, 03:03 PM
Hmmm... Well I played the opening segment of the game. *spoiler*
I thought the fact that the game starts off as your being born was an awesome idea. Has any other game done that before? It was so awesome how your father checks your sex and you pick it, then he tells you your name, and the Xbox blade keyboard pops up and you get to pick it. Then they do a "genetic scan" to figure out what you will look like, then you construct your face like in Oblivion. Very cool.
I've extorted 300 caps from some woman who's hiding from a shifty bar owner. Then I went to Megaton, and on to the Super Duper Mart as part of the "research" for that crazy shop owner.
So far I'm loving the game. It's exactly what I thought it would be, Oblivion set in a post-apocalyptic future. I need to dig in further, and I get the idea that I haven't even scratched the surface of this game. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Norse
11-02-2008, 03:56 PM
I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, but I'm voting Fable 2 anyway. There's no way F3 can be better than Fable 2. I love Oblivion and Bethesda, but Fable 2 was just such an engrossing gaming experience. Everyone who love adventure/RPG games should buy it NOW :)
Wolvie
11-02-2008, 03:59 PM
Wow, that was unexpected, Fallout 3 with 60+ votes? Damn, I decided to go ahead and vote... and I seem to be in the minority. Ah well, good thing I own both eh?
Disgustipated
11-02-2008, 04:00 PM
This is the only reason it is trailing in the poll.
I disagree with this, however; Fable 2 offers some of the toughest choices in the history of gaming. They come with real consequences and benefits, and like the story overall, can affect you on an emotional level. Believe me when I say that this is not something you'll find in Fallout 3, anymore than you did in Oblivion.
HM is right. Fable 2 really is touching.
Variable Gear
11-02-2008, 06:11 PM
I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, but I'm voting Fable 2 anyway. There's no way F3 can be better than Fable 2. I love Oblivion and Bethesda, but Fable 2 was just such an engrossing gaming experience. Everyone who love adventure/RPG games should buy it NOW :)
Faith is good, but experience is better. :rolleyes:
Food Nipple
11-02-2008, 06:17 PM
I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, but I'm voting Fable 2 anyway. There's no way F3 can be better than Fable 2. I love Oblivion and Bethesda, but Fable 2 was just such an engrossing gaming experience. Everyone who love adventure/RPG games should buy it NOW :)
Switch a couple words around and you've have my exact thoughts
I haven't played Fable 2 yet, but I'm voting Fallout 3 anyway. There's no way F2 can be better than Fallout 3. I hate Oblivion, but Fallout was just such an engrossing gaming experience. Everyone who love adventure/RPG games should buy it NOW :)
EternalGamer
11-03-2008, 07:01 AM
Wow, that was unexpected, Fallout 3 with 60+ votes? Damn, I decided to go ahead and vote... and I seem to be in the minority. Ah well, good thing I own both eh?
I certainly like Fable 2 more. Mainly just because it has more personality and is a lot more original experience and world. I love the game's sense of humor (most games don't have a sense of humor at all).
Fallout 3 will give you more bang for your buck and the VATs systems is pretty cool, but the game seems to lack character. I don't want to call it "lifeless" because they certainly spent a lot of time developing the world, but it is a pretty generic post apocalyptic world and the basic gameplay is a series of fetch quests to drain you of your time.
Fable 2 is quirky and weird. And that is why I like it more. It really does feel like it has idiosyncrasies that make it a more intimate experience. Sort of like a Hideo Kojima game. Fallout 3, like most games, feels like it was built by committee.
Goronmon
11-03-2008, 07:26 AM
I'm not sure if I can choose between either, but I can say one thing for sure. The dog in Fallout 3 sucks compared to the dog in Fable 2.
Deadend
11-03-2008, 07:43 AM
In my experience, Fallout 3 is the bigger game with much more to do, but Fable 2 is the better game.
Cavalier
11-03-2008, 08:24 AM
I like both games, but due to size and scope, if I could play only one game between now and Christmas it would be Fallout 3.
Also I think I'll get more replay value out of Fallout 3. Fable 2 would get at most two playthroughs for the good, then evil endings. But due to the different skills in Fallout (doing the general gun totting soldier routine at the mo, but blade wielding, stealthy ninja is coming soon :)) it will suck the 100+ hours play time out of me, that Oblivion did.
Wolvie
11-03-2008, 09:52 AM
I certainly like Fable 2 more. Mainly just because it has more personality and is a lot more original experience and world. I love the game's sense of humor (most games don't have a sense of humor at all).
Fallout 3 will give you more bang for your buck and the VATs systems is pretty cool, but the game seems to lack character. I don't want to call it "lifeless" because they certainly spent a lot of time developing the world, but it is a pretty generic post apocalyptic world and the basic gameplay is a series of fetch quests to drain you of your time.
Fable 2 is quirky and weird. And that is why I like it more. It really does feel like it has idiosyncrasies that make it a more intimate experience. Sort of like a Hideo Kojima game. Fallout 3, like most games, feels like it was built by committee.
I know what you mean. Fable II has character, humor, a story and world that drew you in and wouldn't let go like the LOTR books. It also had consequences to your actions, and it made you care about what you did, whether it was being evil and killing everyone, then taking breaks to have sex with a hooker, or saving everyone and taking a few minutes to spend some time with your wife and kids, you cared. You cared a lot.
Fallout 3, well, now I know this will sound silly, and most people probably won't agree with me... but Fallout's environments are just washed out and bland. I know this is supposed to be a dystopian post-nuclear-war-apocalyptic world, but the game feels too colorless, and lifeless. I've often found myself wandering through similar looking ruins, wishing there was something at least different.
I just wish they had put more open fields in the area I'm in, to break up the monotony of ruined cities, dilapidated building interiors, and eroding trash strewn subway tunnels.
Great game, just too many environments look too much alike.
Iron Past
11-03-2008, 12:05 PM
I like both games, but due to size and scope, if I could play only one game between now and Christmas it would be Fallout 3.
Also I think I'll get more replay value out of Fallout 3. Fable 2 would get at most two playthroughs for the good, then evil endings. But due to the different skills in Fallout (doing the general gun totting soldier routine at the mo, but blade wielding, stealthy ninja is coming soon :)) it will suck the 100+ hours play time out of me, that Oblivion did.
Not that this should really sway your opinion or anything, but for the record Fable II has one ending, with three choices, none of which has anything to do with how good/evil or corrupt/pure you are. :)
And for some reason, I didn't think Wolvie would enjoy Fable II as much as he is, go figure. ;)
Widgetcraft
11-03-2008, 01:17 PM
Not that this should really sway your opinion or anything, but for the record Fable II has one ending, with three choices, none of which has anything to do with how good/evil or corrupt/pure you are. :)
And for some reason, I didn't think Wolvie would enjoy Fable II as much as he is, go figure. ;)
Just so you know, coming from someone who has beaten both, Fallout 3 has the much more limited ending. The only differences you'll find are that one of the two pieces of the ending cinematic will change, from what I can tell (as there seemed to be an obvious break in the cinematic, so I assume that there are two pieces with two options each, judging from the fairly obvious forks in the late part of the game).
atomic_burrito
11-03-2008, 04:34 PM
As skewed as these results seem, I'm leaning towards F2 for now. Another question though, on that topic -- is it worth playing through F1 before F2?
EternalGamer
11-03-2008, 04:57 PM
As skewed as these results seem, I'm leaning towards F2 for now. Another question though, on that topic -- is it worth playing through F1 before F2?
No. There are a few nods towards the original, but essentially this game is an improved version of that one.
KamaItachi
11-04-2008, 07:33 PM
As skewed as these results seem, I'm leaning towards F2 for now. Another question though, on that topic -- is it worth playing through F1 before F2?
It's worth a play through. It was a decent game in its own right but the backlash that came after Peter's hype seems to have blackened its name in the history books. If you can find it cheap, give it a shot but certainly not worth putting off playing 2 to get through it. 2 is bigger, better, realises more of what the original had tried to do and has a dog.
Deadend
11-04-2008, 10:49 PM
As skewed as these results seem, I'm leaning towards F2 for now. Another question though, on that topic -- is it worth playing through F1 before F2?
Not really worth it... but it will just make Fable 2 seem better, which it is.
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