Neighborhood Pride!

[civil]

Apparently, my neighborhood is the most dangerous in all of Chicago this year:

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17 homicides! Over 54 shootings over the course of one weekend with 8 people killed! (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/redeye/2010/07/chicago-2010-homicide-murder-data.html)

And I don't live near the park, in the vicinity of it or in the general area. I live half a motherfucking block from the actual Humboldt Park. I am King Kong!

New York better impress the shit out of me when I move there.

[Handmade.Mercury]

I've always found it interesting how in these sort of reports, they always report them as "slayings." It makes me think of the world as one big deathmatch arena, and I want to press TAB to see who's winning.

[Ink Asylum]

New York better impress the shit out of me when I move there.

NYC continues to get safer every year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City), though there are definitely good neighborhoods and bad ones.

Starting in 2005, New York City achieved the lowest crime rate among the ten largest cities in the United States. Since 1991, the city has seen a continuous fifteen-year trend of decreasing crime. Neighborhoods that were once considered dangerous are now much safer. Violent crime in the city has dropped by three quarters in the twelve years ending in 2005 with the murder rate at its lowest then level since 1963 with only 539 murders that year, for a murder rate of 6.58 per 100,000 people, compared to 2,245 murders in 1990. In 2009, the low would be displaced. Among the 182 U.S. cities with populations of more than 100,000, New York City ranked 136th in overall crime.

While crime rates have stopped decreasing for a decade in the rest of the United States, in New York the murder rate for 2009 is at an all time low of 466, more than a 10% decline from the previous year, and the lowest count during the period that crime statistics have been recorded.

[biosc1]

and I want to press TAB to see who's winning.

Naturally, Civil is winning and he posted the screen cap to prove it.

[civil]

I've always found it interesting how in these sort of reports, they always report them as "slayings."
My neighborhood is old school, they kill with rapiers.

NYC continues to get safer every year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City), though there are definitely good neighborhoods and bad ones.
I'm looking for dangerous, dammit! I can't sleep without sirens or helicopters lulling me to dreamland.

Naturally, Civil is winning and he posted the screen cap to prove it.
I'm doing it for the achievements.

[DoctorFinger]

I'm looking for dangerous, dammit! I can't sleep without sirens or helicopters lulling me to dreamland.I'm sure you can find a place near the NYPD's helicopter unit. Also any of the non-Hipster parts of Brooklyn.

[civil]

I'm sure you can find a place near the NYPD's helicopter unit. Also any of the non-Hipster parts of Brooklyn.
Or some parts of Harlem! That's an area we're considering.

[Hawkzombie]

8 murders in a single weekend? That's like our rate for the year so far here in Edmonton :p

[civil]

8 murders in a single weekend? That's like our rate for the year so far here in Edmonton :p
That's two years for where my parents live.

Just came home to three cop cars on my street. Gonna be a fancy night!

[Serapth]

Holy Christ... at that rate Chicagos murder rate is almost equal to all of Canada combined! (http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ca-canada/cri-crime)

Apparently we had 523 murders in 2009.

[Chris_D]

I won't bother to check Japan's murder rate.

[Serapth]

I won't bother to check Japan's murder rate.

@630, but amazingly enough Japan has an absolute shitload of cops... 231,700


Oddly, they have a staggeringly high number of car thefts (62,673) and drug users (26,477 per 100,000 people).


So apparently, the Japanese are too stoned, busy stealing cars or hiding from the quarter million policemen!


For reference, the UK have 152,576 police and Canada have 58,422.

The US have close to a million. Given their crime statics, the US is getting a really really really shitty ROI on their law enforcement dollar!

[MagGnome]

I felt completely safe the entire time I stayed at Civil's place. Then again that might be because Lucy was snuggling with me. :D

"Murderapolis" as it was known in the 90s still sees a fairly high number of shootings and murders. Just two weeks ago a drive-by shooting killed a man two blocks from my last apartment, on a street that I walked on several times a week. That was a little disturbing. My roommate and I used to hear gunshots from time to time, although muggings were much more prevalent than murders.

The neighborhood I live in now is one of the richest and safest outside of the suburbs. It's also really boring, which is why I'm moving back to "Murderapolis" at the end of August. :p

[Chris_D]

@630, but amazingly enough Japan has an absolute shitload of cops... 231,700


Oddly, they have a staggeringly high number of car thefts (62,673) and drug users (26,477 per 100,000 people).


So apparently, the Japanese are too stoned, busy stealing cars or hiding from the quarter million policemen!

I can't believe either of those later two stats to be honest. 1/4 people have been convicted on drug offenses? More than 1/2, victims of car crime? Hell, not even that many people even own a car here!

[Serapth]

Are DC and Phily still number 1 and 2?

[Serapth]

I can't believe either of those later two stats to be honest. 1/4 people have been convicted on drug offenses? More than 1/2, victims of car crime? Hell, not even that many people even own a car here!

They seemed really odd to me too. I figured the drug one was a strict policy, or more likely includes public intoxication charges in that statistic, which from what I have heard of Japan would pretty much be the norm.

[Chris_D]

Yeah, there is a lot of drinking in public, including public intoxication, but that's because it's legal. At best, police might ask you to calm down if you are being really loud. Nearly all Japanese drunks I've seen have been polite and well behaved however. They do have the unfortunate habit of vomiting in front of you though.

[Serapth]

Yeah, there is a lot of drinking in public, including public intoxication, but that's because it's legal. At best, police might ask you to calm down if you are being really loud. Nearly all Japanese drunks I've seen have been polite and well behaved however. They do have the unfortunate habit of vomiting in front of you though.

I have heard late night subway travel can become somewhat ... unpleasant because of the volume of vomit involved. Then again, this is from a friend that was working in the heart of Tokyo who insisted that every friend there was a binge drinker.

[Chris_D]

Yeah, there is definitely a strong after work drinks culture in Japan. Junior coworkers will be pressured into paying for drinks for everyone. It's kind of shitty really.

[Inspector Fowler]

Wait, Chris - you're saying that if somebody doesn't have an inner loudmouthed jackass inside them to begin with, the booze doesn't just create that person?

Wow, all these college kids I deal with better start acting right. Now I know they're just acting out their inner selves.

[Chris_D]

I don't get your point.

[DeathtollWRX]

@630, but amazingly enough Japan has an absolute shitload of cops... 231,700


Oddly, they have a staggeringly high number of car thefts (62,673) and drug users (26,477 per 100,000 people).


So apparently, the Japanese are too stoned, busy stealing cars or hiding from the quarter million policemen!


For reference, the UK have 152,576 police and Canada have 58,422.

The US have close to a million. Given their crime statics, the US is getting a really really really shitty ROI on their law enforcement dollar!

We need Robocop!

[civil]

I felt completely safe the entire time I stayed at Civil's place. Then again that might be because Lucy was snuggling with me. :D
Conversely, I felt nervous as hell picking you up in your neighborhood! That many white people in one area makes me twitchy.

[Generation ABXY]

I don't get your point.

I think he's just commenting on how people tend to use drunkenness as an excuse for being an asshole. Given that Japan apparently has polite drunks, it's (further) proof that the people Fowler deals with were just assholes to begin with.

[MagGnome]

Conversely, I felt nervous as hell picking you up in your neighborhood! That many white people in one area makes me twitchy.

Now that you mention it, the only non-white person I've seen on my block was doing garden work for the house across the street.

One thing I will miss about this area when I move next month: rich people hire the hottest landscapers. :D

[Chris_D]

I think he's just commenting on how people tend to use drunkenness as an excuse for being an asshole. Given that Japan apparently has polite drunks, it's (further) proof that the people Fowler deals with were just assholes to begin with.

OK thanks!

[MagGnome]

Conversely, I felt nervous as hell picking you up in your neighborhood! That many white people in one area makes me twitchy.

As an aside, I had similar feelings when I was coming to stay at your place and you told me that your neighborhood was filled with tough Puerto Ricans.

Those fears were quickly replaced with fantasies of being called "Papi" by a hot Latino stud as he and I made passionate love in a pile of black beans on top of a giant tortilla while a mariachi band played in the background.

[Kelegacy]

When a murder happens in Maine it always makes state-wide headlines. I think that's a good thing.

Heck, murders and other similar crimes are so rare here that we sometimes talk about neighboring states' murders!

I'm too lazy to look up the crime statistic, but I bet our biggest one is drug use. Pillheads, especially in the poorer, eastern parts of the state. And illegal lobster sex.

[MagGnome]

When a murder happens in Maine it always makes state-wide headlines. I think that's a good thing.

Heck, murders and other similar crimes are so rare here that we sometimes talk about neighboring states' murders!

I'm too lazy to look up the crime statistic, but I bet our biggest one is drug use. Pillheads, especially in the poorer, eastern parts of the state. And illegal lobster sex.

The pincers make excellent nipple clamps.

[J Arcane]

Honestly, if there's a murder rate here, I'd never hear about it. The local press and the police relentlessly suppress any violent crime reports to try and maintain the illusion of this being a safe little vacation town. This is a town where I witnessed an honest to god police shootout and no one outside my block ever heard about it. I've spoken to local cops in the past, and the impression I get is a lot of shit goes down here, 97 is a pretty big corridor for drug trafficking because the I-5 has too many state cops on patrol. But none of the scary stuff is ever allowed to see press.

[DoctorFinger]

Ok, is Mag drunk off his ass, or was his account hacked? Because that's not really like him.

[boratika]

In 2009, Australia had -

263 Murders
237 Attempted Murders
30 Manslaughters

Only 30 of the murders, and 43 of the attempted murders, used a firearm.

(Link) (http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4510.0Main+Features12009?OpenDocument)


We just aren't very good at murder I guess :o

[DoctorFinger]

Yeah, but you probably had like 10,000 people killed by giant freaking spiders, or wallabies, or dingos. So it balances out.

[Ink Asylum]

Dammit, Doc. I was so going to say that.

[MagGnome]

Ok, is Mag drunk off his ass, or was his account hacked? Because that's not really like him.

I'm doing my best to imitate Kelegacy. It came out of the Weekday Gamer thread.

[Kielaran]

In 2009, Australia had -

263 Murders
237 Attempted Murders
30 Manslaughters

Only 30 of the murders, and 43 of the attempted murders, used a firearm.

(Link) (http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4510.0Main+Features12009?OpenDocument)


We just aren't very good at murder I guess :o

Yeah, but you probably had like 10,000 people killed by giant freaking spiders, or wallabies, or dingos. So it balances out.

Well how else did you think all of those murders occurred without a gun? :p