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Gwinny
11-28-2008, 10:56 PM
The one thing that sucks so far is that the Regulator you turn the fingers into ran off one night as giant radscorpions attacked some of the cows outside the HQ...haven't seen her since.
That cowardly wench did the same to me. I'm sorry that I don't have the game in front of me to give you more precise directions, but (in my game) she's not gone. If you stand at the door of Regulator HQ, looking out at the brahmin pen, go forward and bear to your right. In my game, at least, she's standing safe and sound a bit away from HQ up a hill and it's easy to find her once the green dot appears on my compass.
Found her about 20 meters to the west of the shack after scaring her out of the house by accident (entered the building before killing hostiles outside after fast-traveling). She just stands there and acts like she's inside but is out of any enemy's spawn range.
The direction I head in is probably west, it sounds like that's where she's programmed to flee to. Worth checking!
Jeffool
11-29-2008, 12:42 AM
I just lost the guy in Megaton who collects scrap. *sigh* Who knows where he went too.
Also,
After I brought Skippy (or whatever his name was,) to Big Town, and saved the kidnapped duo from the police station, I suggested that I fix up the robots in the Big Town junkyard, everyone in the town walked over to the junkyard to reveal... Nothing. There are no robots there. What the fuck. Now everyone is pestering me to fix robots that don't exist. *sigh* Fuck'em, back to my search for Vault 86!I was seriously curious, since it almost makes your life harder if you go on killing innocent people that can help you in the game and serves really no purpose whatsoever. But that's the beauty of the sandbox--you can do whatever you wish. It's escapism at its best.Hey, doesn't stop people from doing it in real life either. That said, my brother is notoriously evil in all games, and I'm saintly good (with few deviations, as occasionally games don't equate my choice with 'good'.) I definitely use games as a chance to play God, and set the world "right."
DarkDay
11-29-2008, 02:59 AM
You come across a fatman in the main story line early on. It's an item placed there for you to help complete a mission--the game even prompts you to grab it.
Hmm, Thanks Scary and Kel, but im level 12 and no fat man...Ill keep my eyes peeled though. I just went to the mines looking for my dog. Can't find him.......
Maybe ill just throw in Fable 2 and get my fill.
Hotcod
11-29-2008, 04:17 AM
I just lost the guy in Megaton who collects scrap. *sigh* Who knows where he went too.
Also,
After I brought Skippy (or whatever his name was,) to Big Town, and saved the kidnapped duo from the police station, I suggested that I fix up the robots in the Big Town junkyard, everyone in the town walked over to the junkyard to reveal... Nothing. There are no robots there. What the fuck. Now everyone is pestering me to fix robots that don't exist. *sigh* Fuck'em, back to my search for Vault 86!
there's some one in underworld who collects crap metal too i think
as for your other problem
It's a known bug, the robots are like any other npc dead body and they end up despawning if you get close enough to them and then leave or some such
Jeffool
11-29-2008, 04:29 AM
there's some one in underworld who collects crap metal too i thinkYeah, but the deal isn't as good. I think I'm going to hoard until they patch a check/fix for him. I was just lamenting the notion.as for your other problemAhhh, thanks. I didn't see it in this thread (though admittedly I could've easily passed over it.) Appreciate it, Coddleton!
Hotcod
11-29-2008, 07:10 AM
there's a thread in the PC forum with the console commands to check if his still alive and then bring him to you or to respawn him if his dead... no help yet if your on the xboxy
nnanji
11-29-2008, 07:39 AM
Hmm, Thanks Scary and Kel, but im level 12 and no fat man...Ill keep my eyes peeled though. I just went to the mines looking for my dog. Can't find him.......
Maybe ill just throw in Fable 2 and get my fill.
I think I found another FatMan in Fort Bannister in the west part of the wasteland.
opsin
11-29-2008, 07:42 AM
Oh god. All these things are pretty much options for me (the power armour and such) now, and while I'd totally overcome my OCD stuff and was just making decisions, it's all gotetn a bit overpowering again. I haven't played much in a few days 'cause I just don't quite know what I'm going to do next, and how I'm going to do it. I think I'm going to surrender caps and get Charon. But I have no idea what to do about Crowley...
A little more CBT might be needed. I almost wish I had wound up feeling about it like I did Oblivion, and doing like, the Dark Brotherhood quests and nothing else. So much easier!
Virtual Machine
11-29-2008, 07:49 AM
Finally found a motorcycle Handbrake at the garage on the western edge the one over Vault 112 and built myself a Shishkebob v.2. It is awesome. Also finished Agatha's Song, which officially leaves me with one sidequest remaining (Strictly Business, which i doubt i will do). And a bit of a hunt for Nuka Cola Quantum bottles. Then off to the end game i'd say. Though i wouldn't mind gunning for that all locations achievement. ;)
AboveAvgCharles
11-29-2008, 07:51 AM
I just lost the guy in Megaton who collects scrap. *sigh* Who knows where he went too.
Yeah, I lost Alastair Tenpenny, which is ironic, since as far as I know he never leaves his penthouse. Maybe he fell off the balcony.
Banacek
11-29-2008, 09:12 AM
Finally found a motorcycle Handbrake at the garage on the western edge the one over Vault 112 and built myself a Shishkebob v.2. It is awesome. Also finished Agatha's Song, which officially leaves me with one sidequest remaining (Strictly Business, which i doubt i will do). And a bit of a hunt for Nuka Cola Quantum bottles. Then off to the end game i'd say. Though i wouldn't mind gunning for that all locations achievement. ;)
All you need is to find 100 locations.
carnage11
11-29-2008, 01:30 PM
I just lost the guy in Megaton who collects scrap. *sigh* Who knows where he went too.
Also,
After I brought Skippy (or whatever his name was,) to Big Town, and saved the kidnapped duo from the police station, I suggested that I fix up the robots in the Big Town junkyard, everyone in the town walked over to the junkyard to reveal... Nothing. There are no robots there. What the fuck. Now everyone is pestering me to fix robots that don't exist. *sigh* Fuck'em, back to my search for Vault 86!
Same thing happened to me as well. Walter killed himself, if you look around Megaton's ground level you'll eventually find his body. You'd think it would start to stink after a few days.
As well as the missing robots in Big Town. I thought that maybe if I left for a while and came back they would spawn, but after I came back, maybe 2 days later, the town was empty. Not a soul to be found. I'm guessing the Mutants came while I was gone and wiped them all out. Oh well. I still got to finish the mission and grab the achievement. I'm not sure if there was anything of importance in the town afterwards anyways.
axion
11-29-2008, 01:34 PM
Heh, I "completed" Agatha's song without ever being assigned it. I picked up the violin and held on to it because I thought it was cool, then sold it to that guy on the boat because he said he likes old things, and I got quest completed! I was sort of confused but oh well.
Wackman3000
11-29-2008, 02:24 PM
Heh, I "completed" Agatha's song without ever being assigned it. I picked up the violin and held on to it because I thought it was cool, then sold it to that guy on the boat because he said he likes old things, and I got quest completed! I was sort of confused but oh well.
If you would have brought it to Agatha, along with the sheet music, you could have got a custom scoped magnum, one of the better weapons in the game.
Banacek
11-29-2008, 03:00 PM
If you would have brought it to Agatha, along with the sheet music, you could have got a custom scoped magnum, one of the better weapons in the game.
The only problem with that is when you find and sell the violin before you even know who Agatha is. Same thing happened to me.
Murtaug
11-29-2008, 03:13 PM
Heh, I "completed" Agatha's song without ever being assigned it.
Not sure I know Agatha's Song, I do not think I have done that one yet. But I had the same thing happen with Replicated Man. I was more or less randomly talking to people, I knew I had picked up the quest, and the next person I talked to ended up being the end of it.
Kind of sucks, because from what I read about it, sounds like it was a bit larger or a quest with a bunch of exploration to it.
resikel
11-29-2008, 03:13 PM
I just finished the game playing Good.
Scaryfaced
11-29-2008, 05:45 PM
So where would one find this "Agatha" to start the quest? I've been exploring the various vaults and collected everything assuming a quest was somehow involved.
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carnage11
11-29-2008, 06:04 PM
Not sure I know Agatha's Song, I do not think I have done that one yet. But I had the same thing happen with Replicated Man. I was more or less randomly talking to people, I knew I had picked up the quest, and the next person I talked to ended up being the end of it.
Kind of sucks, because from what I read about it, sounds like it was a bit larger or a quest with a bunch of exploration to it.
Yeah, you missed a lot, there's A LOT to that mission, including like 10-12 holotapes to find all over the wasteland. There's also several ways to complete the mission. How did you complete it?
If you told the Android he was a human and showed him the holotapes, he gives you a sweet ass laser rifle. It's my weapon of choice, and is one of the most powerful rifles in the game. Sometimes it will melt people into blobs of slime.:D
Murtaug
11-29-2008, 07:35 PM
Yeah, you missed a lot, there's A LOT to that mission, including like 10-12 holotapes to find all over the wasteland. There's also several ways to complete the mission. How did you complete it?
If you told the Android he was a human and showed him the holotapes, he gives you a sweet ass laser rifle. It's my weapon of choice, and is one of the most powerful rifles in the game. Sometimes it will melt people into blobs of slime.:D
Except for gaining the quest, which I received from a holotape somewhere, everything happened within ten minutes of my first visit to Rivet City. I spoke with a woman (Dr. Li?) about the quest and she gave me a part and told me to say he was dead. And without really understanding what was happening, I ended up talking to Zimmer shortly after and before I knew it the quest was over, getting a big "W.T.F. sir." out of me.
I stumble on holotapes that relate to it from time to time, and dialogue choices for it show up now and then, but they are all grayed out as if I already chose them, even if this is my first conversation with the person. I can choose them, but they either give a short nonsense answer or lead me back to other questions that have nothing to do with the android.
On another note, I decided to finish the last quest I had been working on, and low and behold, turns out it was the story finisher. That was very odd. So I beat the game, and then immediately went back a couple of saves and started exploring some more.
Rogue_hunter
11-29-2008, 09:59 PM
And I just slaughtered the slavers in Paradise Falls. Nothing like getting positive karma for killing people that need to be killed. Promptly went to Regulator HQ to turn in the fingers (I had gone there before finding Paradise Falls, so I was fresh out of fingers) and I had TWENTY-FOUR! Leveled up while in there (just after killing the leader in his pimp suit), got a ton of Nuka Cola Quantums, and a locker full of weapons that I'll be selling in Rivet City and Megaton. Too bad that Crimson and Clover had to die, stupid slaves with names that attacked me. I wonder what I can do to them as a bad guy...
There's so much to do, and sadly, I think that you can reach the level cap far quicker than you can finish all the quests.
And had I known, I would have confronted the android and gotten his uber plasma rifle instead of a measly 50 caps from the scientist. Though, I love my laser rifle. Still have yet to find the Underground city of the Ghouls that haven't turned, but based on reading this thread, I slaughtered Roy and his buddies, but I guess that karma hit got counteracted by destroying Paradise Falls.
carnage11
11-29-2008, 10:24 PM
@Rouge_hunter - Check out the Museum of History.;)
not only do you get to check out Charon, but you also get a mission that leads to getting you into Fort Constantine, which is quite the mother load as far as loot goes.
@Murtaug -
The girl that gives you the part wasn't Dr. Li, it was a member of 'The Railroad'. See you didn't even get to go down and speak with Pinkerton. That was pretty cool too, finding out he's in the base of the ship. You can only get there by swimming. I spoke with Zimmerman first and then ran into the chick from the railroad and then spoke with Pinkerton and then spoke with Harkness. There's just so much to that mission. I would highly suggest going back or playing again and doing that mission the right way.
One of the reasons I am glad I picked up the strategy guide. There's just so much to this game and so many cool little tidbits that are very easy to miss or over look.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images//9/95/ENCLAVEPLASMARIFLE.png
:cool:
Wackman3000
11-29-2008, 10:55 PM
And had I known, I would have confronted the android and gotten his uber plasma rifle instead of a measly 50 caps from the scientist. Though, I love my laser rifle. Still have yet to find the Underground city of the Ghouls that haven't turned, but based on reading this thread, I slaughtered Roy and his buddies, but I guess that karma hit got counteracted by destroying Paradise Falls.
There's also something else you can do with this mission, which was the route I ended up going.
You tell Dr. Zimmer the android's human name and the code to uncover his memories. You will receive the Wired Reflexes perk and -200 karma. Dr. Zimmer will then walk to Harkness' location and claim him as his property. Harkness will initially resist until Dr. Zimmer uses an override code to reset Harkness to factory defaults. Dr. Zimmer and Armitage will then leave Rivet City with Harkness in tow.
You can also do it where you can both the gun and the perk
Hotcod
11-30-2008, 04:15 AM
Too bad that Crimson and Clover had to die, stupid slaves with names that attacked me. I wonder what I can do to them as a bad guy...
you'll notice that you get good karma and fingers of them... so they may be slaves but there evil. If your playing a bad guy you can buy clover off the guy to act as you slave body guard. I was running around with her for a while until i went a picked up the bad ass him self charon
JayK47
11-30-2008, 11:19 AM
I'm in the national guard building down in the basement. There is a bunker that requires a code. Anybody know where to get this code?
Hotcod
11-30-2008, 11:21 AM
kind of
You need to find all the keller(?) family transcripts... holotypes spread all around the place. The reward is awesomely cool but really rather worthless
Banacek
11-30-2008, 11:22 AM
I'm in the national guard building down in the basement. There is a bunker that requires a code. Anybody know where to get this code?
That's one of the most demanding side quests that isn't really a quest. I believe that there's 5 hidden messages all over the wasteland, and the door will open when you found all five.
Sazime
11-30-2008, 12:11 PM
That's one of the most demanding side quests that isn't really a quest. I believe that there's 5 hidden messages all over the wasteland, and the door will open when you found all five.
I've only found 2 or 3. One in a abandoned restaurant car, another in a Talon camp and the third.... can't remember. Anyone know the locations?
Hotcod
11-30-2008, 12:19 PM
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki
for all your spoiler needs
Rogue_hunter
11-30-2008, 12:28 PM
I've only found 2 or 3. One in a abandoned restaurant car, another in a Talon camp and the third.... can't remember. Anyone know the locations?
There's one in a ruined chapel northeast of Megaton. I found the restaurant car yesterday, by the slave camp. Can't remember where I found the third one though.
As for after my post, I assaulted the Capitol Building. Naturally, both the Talon Mercs and the Super Mutants turned on me once I showed up. But, two Nuka Grenades and alot of Shotgun shells later, I climbed the steps. But then I hit a bad sector of RAM and BSoD'd. RMAing the RAM tomorrow, and then it should arrive a day after that. But that won't stop me from playing as much as I can!
Church42
11-30-2008, 12:49 PM
Is there any way to open up Raven Rock (very NW portion of the map). Seems to be a bunker that says is opened elsewhere...
Banacek
11-30-2008, 01:01 PM
Is there any way to open up Raven Rock (very NW portion of the map). Seems to be a bunker that says is opened elsewhere...
Don't worry about it. You'll deal with it at some point.
JayK47
11-30-2008, 03:45 PM
I am at the point in the game where I decided to look online for tips. Yes, "the Vault" wikia seems like the place to go. I want to find all bobble heads, and I have about 3/4 of them. I also want to make sure I have found all major locations. This game is really to big to do this all on your own. I'm on my second play through, and wanted to get it all this time.
I think the Keller story was worth a listen. Access to the bunker was really just icing on the cake. In my first play through, I was unable to find the switch to open the outside bunker door. The switch for the door requires a high perception on my part;)
menage
11-30-2008, 03:54 PM
Anybody have a clue where Hannibal is holed up when your supposed to meet him at the memorial? He sure as hell isn't there:P
ClannerDelta
11-30-2008, 04:11 PM
Anybody have a clue where Hannibal is holed up when your supposed to meet him at the memorial? He sure as hell isn't there:P
It appears that they travel real time. So, walking/fighting/etc. Took them about 7 days time. They also seem to make a weird detour once they get there which adds another day or two onto it. Eventually they'll arrive from the metro. So just wait outside of it for a while (with the wait feature) you'll come out of it automatically when they arrive.
That's how I finished it.
Shadowstorm
11-30-2008, 06:19 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/11/perk1.jpg
Scaryfaced
11-30-2008, 06:26 PM
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/11/perk1.jpg
First leaked perk from the new expansion packs?
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Rogue_hunter
11-30-2008, 06:39 PM
It appears that they travel real time. So, walking/fighting/etc. Took them about 7 days time. They also seem to make a weird detour once they get there which adds another day or two onto it. Eventually they'll arrive from the metro. So just wait outside of it for a while (with the wait feature) you'll come out of it automatically when they arrive.
That's how I finished it.
Weird, it didn't take that long for me. Maybe about 12 hours total of travel for them to get there. It was fun slaughtering slavers, though the slavers had managed to wipe out all the Super Mutants, so I just had to show up, and then tell Hannibal that it's all clear. Gathering all the Abraham Lincoln artifacts was fun though, and I managed to swindle extra caps because of Speech.
I think I'm gonna have to advance more in the story because I'm encountering Brotherhood of Steel people alot, and I want the armor. But, I found Underworld, so I might start "Gotta Shoot Them in the Head" and find the military base.
Hotcod
11-30-2008, 07:17 PM
what you find there isn't much use to you with out the power armour perk... i'd say to people playing that you should mainly follow the main quest until the enclave turn up and you can get trained in power armour and then leave the main quest alone and go exploring. It means there's random enchalve encounters and you get to put on all the cool power armour there is to find
Banacek
11-30-2008, 07:28 PM
what you find there isn't much use to you with out the power armour perk... i'd say to people playing that you should mainly follow the main quest until the enclave turn up and you can get trained in power armour and then leave the main quest alone and go exploring. It means there's random enchalve encounters and you get to put on all the cool power armour there is to find
Agreed. The best way to play is to follow the main quest until the Enclave show up, then explore. I wish I did it that way.
Has anyone seen Talon mercs show up was 'Hitman'? I started seeing it after I slaughtered everyone in their base and killed the commander and I wonder if that was related.
JayK47
11-30-2008, 07:38 PM
Damn. I didn't realize the modified fat man in the bunker shot 8 mini nukes at a time. I used up all of my fat mans to repair it so now I have to track down some fat mans which are pretty damn rare. Goddamn 8 at a time? Why? What a waste of ammo. And when can you really use it? I killed myself several times because it didn't shoot them out far enough. Bah! I worked so hard to accumulate the minis and I done wasted 8 of them one one fat momma ant. At least I know she's dead.
And I am still uncovering whole areas I have missed. The huge grave site in the middle of the city. Just found it. The city is pretty cool, but it is damn near impossible to know where you are going and where you will end up once you go underground.
Banacek
11-30-2008, 08:04 PM
Damn. I didn't realize the modified fat man in the bunker shot 8 mini nukes at a time. I used up all of my fat mans to repair it so now I have to track down some fat mans which are pretty damn rare. Goddamn 8 at a time? Why? What a waste of ammo. And when can you really use it? I killed myself several times because it didn't shoot them out far enough. Bah! I worked so hard to accumulate the minis and I done wasted 8 of them one one fat momma ant. At least I know she's dead.
And I am still uncovering whole areas I have missed. The huge grave site in the middle of the city. Just found it. The city is pretty cool, but it is damn near impossible to know where you are going and where you will end up once you go underground.
Well, that's the point: the weapon is so over the top and powerful that it destroys the user as well. If you need a Fat Man check the weapons dealer in Rivet City. He usually has one in my play-though. Also, get a Metro map (from a terminal in the tunnels). They help in figuring out where you're going.
carnage11
11-30-2008, 08:37 PM
Agreed. The best way to play is to follow the main quest until the Enclave show up, then explore. I wish I did it that way.
Has anyone seen Talon mercs show up was 'Hitman'? I started seeing it after I slaughtered everyone in their base and killed the commander and I wonder if that was related.
I saw them pretty early on. They always carry a note that says "kill [character name]". At first I thought it had to do with the fact that I saved Megaton as opposed to blowing it up. I thought maybe Tenpenny or Burke made a contract to kill me. I dunno.
diablopath
11-30-2008, 08:42 PM
Quick rant.
I just cannot get into this game.
It just feels so clumsy to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
I keep finding myself in fights where I have absolutely no ammo, and they're shooting machine guns and rockets.
What the fuck?
I got annoyed/pissed off at it and turned it off. Urgh.
Not serving its purpose to me.
Banacek
11-30-2008, 08:46 PM
I saw them pretty early on. They always carry a note that says "kill [character name]". At first I thought it had to do with the fact that I saved Megaton as opposed to blowing it up. I thought maybe Tenpenny or Burke made a contract to kill me. I dunno.
Well, mercs come after you if your karma is high enough. Saving Megaton is usually enough to get on their list. I just wondered why the Talon mercs turned into generic hitmen.
Hotcod
11-30-2008, 09:15 PM
Quick rant.
I just cannot get into this game.
It just feels so clumsy to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
I keep finding myself in fights where I have absolutely no ammo, and they're shooting machine guns and rockets.
What the fuck?
I got annoyed/pissed off at it and turned it off. Urgh.
Not serving its purpose to me.
it's not the games fault you suck :p
but honestly the games very very rarely clumsy it just sounds like you've not got the hang of it. Ammo can be hard to come across at first but that's part of the fun. Carry more guns of different ammo types or get up close with melee weapons. the game is also not fully scaled, there are places you are not meant to be at a given level and you will have your ass handed to you.
Just don't give up on the game... if you can't tell from the fact this thread the game is pure awesome. I know people where debating the whole game of the year issue when fallout 3 first dropped but i think there should be no question about it now. Fallout 3 is a very rear game in that the regard for it has just kept on growing... there's so much to the game that it's taken a while for it to get fully digested by most people.
In other words stick with it beacuse it down right awesome.
KingGorilla
11-30-2008, 10:06 PM
Oh no, this game gets very clumsy in parts. The Citadel, as an example, is locked off to you until you hit the magic linear story button. And did you notice that The Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, and the private Diary of Lincoln were all motherfucking Fed-Ex quests?
jpublic
11-30-2008, 10:11 PM
Oh no, this game gets very clumsy in parts. The Citadel, as an example, is locked off to you until you hit the magic linear story button. And did you notice that The Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, and the private Diary of Lincoln were all motherfucking Fed-Ex quests?
If every other fedex quest I ever do in any game are half as fun as that one, I'll be happy.
AntonThaGreat
11-30-2008, 10:21 PM
Just beat fallout 3 on Messiah of the Wastes good karma after 22 hours and 14 levels. I kinda rushed through it. I'm going to go back to a previous save, a little before I go to irradiate myself and do all of the side quests and explore a bit.
After I'm done there, I'm going back to a new game as the most evil motherfucker they ever knew. Gonna pretty much rob and murder everyone. Don't know why, but I was feeling very "nice" on the first round and tried my best to do everything with good karma.
TrackZero
11-30-2008, 11:37 PM
Weird, it didn't take that long for me. Maybe about 12 hours total of travel for them to get there. It was fun slaughtering slavers, though the slavers had managed to wipe out all the Super Mutants, so I just had to show up, and then tell Hannibal that it's all clear. Gathering all the Abraham Lincoln artifacts was fun though, and I managed to swindle extra caps because of Speech.
I think I'm gonna have to advance more in the story because I'm encountering Brotherhood of Steel people alot, and I want the armor. But, I found Underworld, so I might start "Gotta Shoot Them in the Head" and find the military base.
Move the main story up until you find the Citadel and stop there, it's a great spot to "explore" from, since you'll have access to all the high end stuff around the world at that point (except Raven Rock, but you encounter tons of Enclave in the world at that point and can loot them).
TrackZero
11-30-2008, 11:40 PM
Quick rant.
I just cannot get into this game.
It just feels so clumsy to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
I keep finding myself in fights where I have absolutely no ammo, and they're shooting machine guns and rockets.
What the fuck?
I got annoyed/pissed off at it and turned it off. Urgh.
Not serving its purpose to me.
hotcod got it right. All of the Fallout games are traditionally hard at the start, as you're starting out with seemingly nothing and your skills are crap. Part of the reward is growing your character out into the world, in story, skills and gear. If you're finding areas too difficult, don't go there yet, come back later. Usually most of the starting quests you get keep you in areas to help you "ramp up" into the median areas.
Also, the map in many ways is laid out by difficulty, all the starting areas you visit are generally low level, and branching out from them by going in a straight line will make things rougher (though there's often better rewards in the equipment you find). Best bet if you really want to just explore, go towards any of those hollow litte triangles that sometimes appear on your compass. They're areas of interest, usually with lots of stuff at them or fun story bits/quests/etc.
Wolvie
11-30-2008, 11:43 PM
Fallout games are hard from the onset? Makes sense since I never could get into the old Fallout games... because I got my ass owned by them.
TrackZero
11-30-2008, 11:49 PM
Fallout games are hard from the onset? Makes sense since I never could get into the old Fallout games... because I got my ass owned by them.
Fallout 2 was seriously hands down the worst. I mean, I've probably played over 500 hours of Fallout games all together now, and I can get my ass beat down in that first trial area no problem. You pretty much get through it by doing save/reload after every fight. Though there are patches for FO2 to balance things properly (not to mention fix tons of quests bugs, finish off quests that were never completed during development and improve the graphics).
SilentScreams
12-01-2008, 03:08 AM
Fallout 1 & 2 are definitely hard, but I never had any problems with 3. In fact my biggest complaint is that the game is too easy.
The only place I've ever had problems in was a small dungeon full of Mirelurks when I was around level 5, but even that was perfectly doable with a combination of frag mines and grenades to soften them up.
Since then, the game has been a walk in the park. I've probably taken more damage from stupidly walking into traps than I have from enemies.
tacitus
12-01-2008, 12:15 PM
In fact my biggest complaint is that the game is too easy.
QFT - thats my only major complaint. I suspect its that way to make it finishable for all play styles. I also wish that the AI was a bit more intelligent - after you have shot one of their buddies, maybe staring at the corner isn't the best option.
National Kato
12-01-2008, 02:54 PM
...after you have shot one of their buddies, maybe staring at the corner isn't the best option.
Wait, but have you seen what's in the corner?! I'm telling you, man, it's full of stars. :D
Your first meeting with a Behemoth, if I remember correctly. I'm pretty sure a BoS soldier drops it as you find the GNR building. I remember picking it up, attempting a VATS shot with it and missing horribly, wasting the only mini nuke I was carrying.:o
This was the source of much frustration and reloading for me. Apparently the BoS died in a scripted sequence, but he died inside the fountain in the GNR plaza. With a behemoth running around, and plenty of regular (super) mutants, I couldn't for the life of me find the Fat Man that my objectives said to recover from the dead soldier. I kept dying as I tried to follow the objective marker that kept telling me I was coming up on it and then passing it. I should have stood directly in the fountain and searched, which is what I finally did when the BoS managed to kill the behemoth for me. I literally did not fire a single shot at the behemoth :)
menage
12-01-2008, 04:09 PM
It appears that they travel real time. So, walking/fighting/etc. Took them about 7 days time. They also seem to make a weird detour once they get there which adds another day or two onto it. Eventually they'll arrive from the metro. So just wait outside of it for a while (with the wait feature) you'll come out of it automatically when they arrive.
That's how I finished it.
Got him, thanks. Did turn out to be a waiting game indeed.
Abednigo
12-01-2008, 04:13 PM
I ordered the PC version on Friday from Amazon for the sweet Black Friday price of 29.95 (with free super saver shipping). I'll have it by this weekend. I'm not reading through 65 other pages of impressions on it. A few coworkers have it on the PS3 and rave about it. I just hope I can play it without getting motion sick like I did with Half Life 2. I may have to take some Dramamine to get through it if it does. :)
JayK47
12-01-2008, 04:20 PM
Well, that's the point: the weapon is so over the top and powerful that it destroys the user as well. If you need a Fat Man check the weapons dealer in Rivet City. He usually has one in my play-though. Also, get a Metro map (from a terminal in the tunnels). They help in figuring out where you're going.
How am I missing so many things in this game? I never thought to even look at a metro map. So this whole time I could have figured out where I was going? I just walked right by them. This game is too much. I really only needed to buy just Fallout 3 this fall. Fable 2, Gears 2, Saints 2, And Far Cry 2 all collecting dust.
Rogue_hunter
12-01-2008, 04:50 PM
This was the source of much frustration and reloading for me. Apparently the BoS died in a scripted sequence, but he died inside the fountain in the GNR plaza. With a behemoth running around, and plenty of regular (super) mutants, I couldn't for the life of me find the Fat Man that my objectives said to recover from the dead soldier. I kept dying as I tried to follow the objective marker that kept telling me I was coming up on it and then passing it. I should have stood directly in the fountain and searched, which is what I finally did when the BoS managed to kill the behemoth for me. I literally did not fire a single shot at the behemoth :)
You screwed up and triggered the behemoth early then. I slaughtered the Super Mutants from the doorway in the remnants of the one building. Once the square was all clear, two of the named soldiers chatted, and then the rookie was sent over by the bus. Once you hit the stairs, that triggers the behemoth, and she died a horrible death. Luckily, I had scavenged a few Mini-Nukes beforehand, and only had to use two to take down the behemoth. Super XP earned, especially since I was well rested.
I managed to snipe the behemoth that was locked up in the slaver town through the grating, kept getting crit sniper shots. Leveled up, and then did the "Rescue from Paradise" quest and leveled up again. So awesome.
Lance Uppercut
12-01-2008, 05:08 PM
I managed to snipe the behemoth that was locked up in the slaver town through the grating, kept getting crit sniper shots. Leveled up, and then did the "Rescue from Paradise" quest and leveled up again. So awesome.
Or, you could have shot the generator that was powering his electric fence, and let him massacre the slavers before putting some .44 ammunition in his head.
Rogue_hunter
12-01-2008, 05:13 PM
Or, you could have shot the generator that was powering his electric fence, and let him massacre the slavers before putting some .44 ammunition in his head.
Slight problem with that, I had already killed all of the slavers. They were nice and soft, and my shotgun critted their faces so easily.
Scaryfaced
12-01-2008, 05:35 PM
Slight problem with that, I had already killed all of the slavers. They were nice and soft, and my shotgun critted their faces so easily.
I think the Raiders let the Behemoth out in my game. I snuck up on the place while exploring and sniped the majority of the camp from the ridges above. Noticed the Behemoth, but decided to leave it until later. Once I couldn't see any more standing around, I made my way into the camp to cleaned up. As I walked between the train cars, three Raiders came around one and opened up on me and Clover. Then all of a sudden, the Behemoth comes out from behind the Raiders, nails two of them and comes straight for me. Clover took a few shots at it and the thing pins her to a wall. I was really suprised she survived. It must have taken a good 30 seconds and about 20 shotgun rounds to bring that bastard down.
Basically, I'm just saying this game changes everytime you play it.
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Karak
12-01-2008, 07:28 PM
I have walked the world like Cain.
But with a gun.
And a fucking bugs helmet on.
Great game.
Rogue_hunter
12-01-2008, 07:36 PM
Basically, I'm just saying this game changes everytime you play it.
Well, naturally.
The first time I encounted Super Mutants was at the Potomac River doing the Mole Rat repellent mission for the Survival Guide. There's the metro station right by the water and a broken bridge (I forget which specific entrance). I had already found that place and fast traveled there so I could just move south along the river to the Tepid Sewers. Even though I had cleared the area before, two Supers spawned in across the river. When I actually arrived, the lone trader is trying to fight them off. Since this was when I was playing on my busted ass old PC, I had to have everything on the lowest of low settings, so I couldn't see anything unless they were 50 feet in front of me.
Managed to kill both and got my first minigun, but the Mutant with the minigun unloaded most of the ammo on one of the two cars right there, igniting it. Not knowing that cars explode with nuclear fury, I was standing next to one talking to the trader. BAM. Cars explode, killing the trader and the brahmin, and crippling my legs. But since I had the Rad Regeneration perk, I figured to go for a swim. Unfortunately (due to busted ass PC) the O2 meter didn't pop up, so I drowned. Didn't have a save, so I had to reload the autosave and fight yet again.
Second fight, and the Mutants spawned on the same side of the river. They met with the fury of my grenades pretty quickly. I start to move south when the game crashes because it couldn't stream in the new textures for downtown. Naturally, there was no save, so I had to repeat the fight 3 more times until I found a workaround for the crash. Luckily, once I got my new system built, I was able to get past that point because it could actually load the textures on the fly instead of the EVERY FUCKING TIME I TURNED A CORNER that I had been going through up to level 8.
And I had to repeat a few fights because my new system had bad RAM. Scavenging the Museum of History, and attacking the Capitol Building to kill Super Mutants and Talon Mercs alike, among other events, all had to be repeated because of the bad RAM. Having to repeat stuff, I've never had everything go exactly the same.
carnage11
12-01-2008, 09:11 PM
I ordered the PC version on Friday from Amazon for the sweet Black Friday price of 29.95 (with free super saver shipping). I'll have it by this weekend. I'm not reading through 65 other pages of impressions on it. A few coworkers have it on the PS3 and rave about it. I just hope I can play it without getting motion sick like I did with Half Life 2. I may have to take some Dramamine to get through it if it does. :)
Actually I some times have trouble with first person games and getting a little motion sick as well. Call of Cthuhlu comes to mind. However, I will say I've not had a single problem with Fallout 3. As a matter of fact, I can play for hours on end and don't ever get nauseated. I never thought about it until you said that, but come to think of it, it's not bad. If you do feel a little sick you can always try third person. That usually helps. Also, for me, it helps to sit far away from the set. It's hard to do with PC games, but if you got it for console it shouldn't be a problem.
Virtual Machine
12-02-2008, 07:00 AM
I ordered the PC version on Friday from Amazon for the sweet Black Friday price of 29.95 (with free super saver shipping). I'll have it by this weekend. I'm not reading through 65 other pages of impressions on it. A few coworkers have it on the PS3 and rave about it. I just hope I can play it without getting motion sick like I did with Half Life 2. I may have to take some Dramamine to get through it if it does. :)
Go back and take an afternoon and read - this is the greatest thread in the history of everything ;)
You screwed up and triggered the behemoth early then. I slaughtered the Super Mutants from the doorway in the remnants of the one building. Once the square was all clear, two of the named soldiers chatted, and then the rookie was sent over by the bus. Once you hit the stairs, that triggers the behemoth, and she died a horrible death. Luckily, I had scavenged a few Mini-Nukes beforehand, and only had to use two to take down the behemoth. Super XP earned, especially since I was well rested.
I managed to snipe the behemoth that was locked up in the slaver town through the grating, kept getting crit sniper shots. Leveled up, and then did the "Rescue from Paradise" quest and leveled up again. So awesome.Yeah, it was early in my game and I was still playing like a bull in a china shop. Now I am a stealth bull with socks. I definitely lost out on a large chunk o' XP in that fight, but it was funny to watch them finish it off for me.
And like you, I also sniped the 2nd behemoth (slaver town) after I had already sniped all of the slavers from afar.
zarathstra
12-03-2008, 03:43 PM
Yeah, it was early in my game and I was still playing like a bull in a china shop. Now I am a stealth bull with socks. I definitely lost out on a large chunk o' XP in that fight, but it was funny to watch them finish it off for me.
And like you, I also sniped the 2nd behemoth (slaver town) after I had already sniped all of the slavers from afar.
That's weird, maybe I went into a different slaver base, cause I never saw a Behemoth...
Also, did the good ending seem kinda...anti-climactic to anyone else?
Ink Asylum
12-03-2008, 04:15 PM
It's a raider base, not a slaver one, that has the Behemoth.
Rogue_hunter
12-03-2008, 04:26 PM
That's weird, maybe I went into a different slaver base, cause I never saw a Behemoth...
There's a ton of Slaver camps. The one with a Behemoth is Evergreen Mills, in the same area (southwest corner of the gameworld) as Tenpenny Tower. It's a mill with some train tracks running to it. The behemoth is in an electric cage, though there are reports that he'll bust through it, or slavers will open it up when you arrive.
biosc1
12-03-2008, 04:36 PM
I just hope I can play it without getting motion sick like I did with Half Life 2. I may have to take some Dramamine to get through it if it does. :)
Strangely, this is the only game to make me feel a little motion sick...but, I have a huge monitor and if I back away, I'm fine :)
Borthcollective
12-04-2008, 06:14 AM
The only time this game bothers me is if I watch my roommate play it. His movements are so erratic that it's like he's trying to time his movements to Herbie Hancock's Rock-It.
Banacek
12-04-2008, 09:30 AM
I should mention, the one thing that really bothered me was the radio stations. Call me spoiled after GTA, but ~10 songs is nowhere near enough for a game this big and long. I had to turn it off, which I didn't want to do.
menage
12-04-2008, 09:37 AM
Level 20 at full Karma level reached!
I hope the game doesn't lose it's appeal now I can't level anymore. Maybe if I try to find all the Bobbleheads (I've only got freaking 2) which help me level even more, and some books.
Or maybe I'll just wrap it up and leave all unfound stuff for my second playthrough.
Ink Asylum
12-04-2008, 10:26 AM
I should mention, the one thing that really bothered me was the radio stations. Call me spoiled after GTA, but ~10 songs is nowhere near enough for a game this big and long. I had to turn it off, which I didn't want to do.
Yeah. If they had double the songs on the radio it would have felt far less repetitive.
This is true. Although I loved every song they picked, so sometimes I would turn it on just to hear them again. Would have been nice to add some- maybe for DLC they can do so, but apparently even getting "I don't want to set the world on fire" was troublesome (it was intended for Fallout 1 and couldn't be secured until Fallout 3).
carnage11
12-04-2008, 11:40 AM
I hit 20 last night as well. I'm only half way through the main quest and probably have about 4 side quests left to do. But tons more exploring. I have barely scratched the surface as far as locations go. I've got 12 bobbleheads and I think I've read somewhere around 85 skill books. I've got Speech, Small Guns, Repair, Science, Lockpick, and Medicine to 100. Most others are 80 or above. I'm gonna try and get everything up to 100 with skill books. I love this game. I can't wait to play it the second time with bad karma.
Variable Gear
12-04-2008, 05:09 PM
This is true. Although I loved every song they picked, so sometimes I would turn it on just to hear them again. Would have been nice to add some- maybe for DLC they can do so, but apparently even getting "I don't want to set the world on fire" was troublesome (it was intended for Fallout 1 and couldn't be secured until Fallout 3).
I'd also like to have more songs. It'd be nice if Eden was a little less repetitive as well.
Yeah. Is it weird that I felt a vague patriotic tug when I'd hear Eden's marching music? I guess that's the point of any good propaganda.
Variable Gear
12-04-2008, 05:26 PM
Is it weird that I felt a vague patriotic tug when I'd hear Eden's marching music?
I don't think it's weird. In fact, I often have a similar reaction. And, despite the obvious repetition, I can't help but listen to Enclave Radio every once in awhile. I could blame this on the outstanding bleakness of the Capitol Wasteland, but I blame the propaganda. It does its job well.
biosc1
12-04-2008, 05:34 PM
Or maybe I'll just wrap it up and leave all unfound stuff for my second playthrough.
That's my plan. I'm doing some of the long side quests, knowing that my next play-through, I'm going to focus on the bobble heads and the quests I didn't do.
inmostlight
12-04-2008, 05:36 PM
Yeah. Is it weird that I felt a vague patriotic tug when I'd hear Eden's marching music? I guess that's the point of any good propaganda.
Somebody really, really needs to hack into the PA system in the DC metro and play the Enclave radio signal over that...
menage
12-04-2008, 06:20 PM
Wow, little lamplight really hit me off guard, great setting.
Variable Gear
12-04-2008, 06:22 PM
Wow, little lamplight really hit me off guard, great setting.
I agree, but I just wish you could kill the kids.
Hotcod
12-04-2008, 07:35 PM
I agree, but I just wish you could kill the kids.
mod out there already for that i think
Variable Gear
12-04-2008, 07:36 PM
mod out there already for that i think
Not on 360. I'll have to look into the modding scene when I pick up the PC version, though. :)
Hotcod
12-04-2008, 08:03 PM
Not on 360. I'll have to look into the modding scene when I pick up the PC version, though. :)
there's a tone of stuff out already it is going to explode when the geck hits... even if i had a 360 i would have brought the game on the PC simply for the hopes of the mod kits... i got an e-mail yesterday from some one wanting to put my really old amour and chainmail mod for morrowind in to his heh
Rogue_hunter
12-04-2008, 10:09 PM
So, going to Arefu to gank the Repair bobblehead, the entire town decides to attack me. I guess accidentally killing the lookout guard in the "vampire" village with a bottlecap mine turned two villages against me. Luckily since they were aggro against me, I didn't lose any karma.
Found Little Lamplight, just not sure how to power up the computer terminal for the Vault-Tec thing down there. Randomly found Vault 92, but I'm not entirely sure if I want to go in yet.
Managed to find all the parts for a dart gun, and it makes fighting deathclaws uber easy. two shots in VATS to hit the legs, and then shotgun to the face for death.
Though, had the most unusual encounter with a Sentry Bot. Laser gattling and rockets kicking my ass when I pulled out my missile launcher and fired at the legs. Splash damage blasted the robot up into the sky where it got stuck on the skybox. From the skybox it rained more rockets and lasers down on me, while I was looking for the bot because I could not find it in the immediate area. Hit V to bring up VATS, and sure enough, I lock onto the robot in the sky. One more rocket and it went down.
I still need to upload my pic of all the cars at a drive-in exploding all at the same time. 6 mushroom clouds all at the same time, absolutely gorgeous.
Banacek
12-04-2008, 10:44 PM
So, going to Arefu to gank the Repair bobblehead, the entire town decides to attack me. I guess accidentally killing the lookout guard in the "vampire" village with a bottlecap mine turned two villages against me. Luckily since they were aggro against me, I didn't lose any karma.
Same exact thing happened to me, and I solved the quest with no violence. Someone must have gone south at some point. I wonder what it was.
Gerbs
12-04-2008, 10:56 PM
On my second playthrough I felt pretty overpowered before I even hit level 12. So for my third character I decided to set the difficulty to hard from the beginning. This put me back in the survival mode of scrounging everywhere for stimpaks and selling as much stuff as I could for a few measly caps.
I am lugging a companion around with me this time though (other 2 playthroughs were almost entirely alone) and that seems to have leveled off the difficulty a bit now. Seems your companions auto heal after every encounter?
I think I'm moving on until the DLC is released. Over a hundred and twenty hours on three characters and all the achievements seems to indicate I've got my fill for now. Until new content comes out. :D
carnage11
12-04-2008, 11:16 PM
Holy shit, has anyone used the Nuka Grenade yet? (I think it's something like 500 dmg) I threw one at about 5 super mutants and there just happen to be probably 4 or 5 cars in close proximity and the entire screen went white. After wards all super muties were dead as well as 3 giant radscorpions that I hadn't seen as well as a wastelander captive (whoops!). My life was hanging by a thread. All in all it was the greatest thing I've ever seen in a video game.:D
There's also a big satellite dish in the north east that is linked to a nuclear warheads satellite in space. If you get the activation codes you can arm the nukes and run outside to watch the view of 3-4 nukes hitting the ground all around you. Fucking nice......that's all I can say.
Rogue_hunter
12-05-2008, 04:16 PM
Holy shit, has anyone used the Nuka Grenade yet? (I think it's something like 500 dmg) I threw one at about 5 super mutants and there just happen to be probably 4 or 5 cars in close proximity and the entire screen went white. After wards all super muties were dead as well as 3 giant radscorpions that I hadn't seen as well as a wastelander captive (whoops!). My life was hanging by a thread. All in all it was the greatest thing I've ever seen in a video game.:D
There's also a big satellite dish in the north east that is linked to a nuclear warheads satellite in space. If you get the activation codes you can arm the nukes and run outside to watch the view of 3-4 nukes hitting the ground all around you. Fucking nice......that's all I can say.
Damage is dependent on both your level and your explosives skill. At level 16, the two nuka grenades I had actually found in the world were 600+ damage. Such a beautiful explosion, super colorful and can wipe out an area just as effectively as a Fat Man mini Nuke.
Finding that satellite dish control does sound cool.
menage
12-05-2008, 05:51 PM
I still need to upload my pic of all the cars at a drive-in exploding all at the same time. 6 mushroom clouds all at the same time, absolutely gorgeous.
That's always when I stare in awe at the game. Some of the best explosions in games period. I sent a couple of cars and a bus into the "air" inside a metro station once. Barely made it out alive but it was a sight to behold. Great way to take out a group of mutants as well.
Banacek
12-05-2008, 06:01 PM
Anyone find the crazy guy in the alley?
You know, the one that blows up the entire block if he feels like it, and talks about the 'Great Worm'? I loved that, had nothing really to do with the game but it was so enjoyable. I ended up crawling along the building, tossing a grenade up to the second floor and taking the mines and mini nukes.
menage
12-05-2008, 06:08 PM
Anyone find the crazy guy in the alley?
You know, the one that blows up the entire block if he feels like it, and talks about the 'Great Worm'? I loved that, had nothing really to do with the game but it was so enjoyable. I ended up crawling along the building, tossing a grenade up to the second floor and taking the mines and mini nukes.
Yeah, send the guy in, blew the whole place to hell. I really kept wondering if there was a thing like that like what he spoke off, then I played Gears 2. Go figure.
Abednigo
12-05-2008, 07:42 PM
Actually I some times have trouble with first person games and getting a little motion sick as well. Call of Cthuhlu comes to mind. However, I will say I've not had a single problem with Fallout 3. As a matter of fact, I can play for hours on end and don't ever get nauseated. I never thought about it until you said that, but come to think of it, it's not bad. If you do feel a little sick you can always try third person. That usually helps. Also, for me, it helps to sit far away from the set. It's hard to do with PC games, but if you got it for console it shouldn't be a problem.
I finally started playing it tonight (the PC version). I wasn't planning on doing much, but as my coworkers said would happen, I'm hooked. I played for a good 3 hours and just reached Megaton (where I'm calling it a night). This game is absolutely amazing. Thankfully it's not having the motion sickness effect that I feared it might have. I think because it's not a fast FPS like Half Life 2 was. Even with fighting a few things outside the Vault, using the VAT system makes the shootouts less frantic with the movements (which is what used to always screw me up). And there's no headbob that I can tell, which helps a lot!
I'm still getting the hang of things, like what all the stuff on the VAT display even means (I need to look in the manual I guess). But I'm enjoying it a lot. I might even read through all 68 pages of this thread. :)
JayK47
12-06-2008, 09:22 AM
Ha. I thought the kids were brats, but wanting to kill them? Wow.
If you like the radio stations, there is one that you can find on a mission. I was surprised at how cool that mission was. Some old lady in a hidden shack gives you her radio station and a special weapon. Both great.
Speaking of radio stations, is there a point to turning on those SOS signals? I turned on quite a few, but you get static and Morse code. Anybody get anything from those?
inmostlight
12-06-2008, 09:25 AM
Speaking of radio stations, is there a point to turning on those SOS signals? I turned on quite a few, but you get static and Morse code. Anybody get anything from those?
I found one that was a small distress call leading to people who had died in the war. A few weapons/ammo boxes but nothing special. I think I found another one that just sounded weird and creepy, like a broadcast of gnashing teeth and heavy breathing. I never figured out where the source was coming from, but I also didn't really want to...
menage
12-06-2008, 09:56 AM
Anybody actually try to decipher the morse code?
inmostlight
12-06-2008, 09:58 AM
Anybody actually try to decipher the morse code?
Apparently so. The Fallout 3 wiki has decodings and translations of the Chinese ones. (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_radio_stations)
menage
12-06-2008, 10:06 AM
Apparently so. The Fallout 3 wiki has decodings and translations of the Chinese ones. (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_3_radio_stations)
Cool, but I might try it myself for some stupid reason. Never tried it before so why the fuck not now:P
JayK47
12-06-2008, 10:50 AM
So I finished the game this time with a more evil character.
I love how at the end, when faced with the choice of either going yourself, or sending in Lyon, if you choose Lyon, she puts up the biggest fit. But when you choose to go, so long sucker. And then they even rub it in during the finishing movie. "A hero had to give her life instead of your selfish ass" So because my dad died for the purifier, suddenly my path is to die for it as well? My character is supposedly fresh out of the vault at the young age of 19. Goddamn. Let me live will ya;) I just thought it was funny. Lyon was all, "one of us needs to go", but the only real option is for me to go. A coin flip would have been nice. Instead my character can only say. "Screw that, I'm not going in." Which does sound like a dick move.
KingGorilla
12-06-2008, 02:25 PM
I am a little perturbed that the first expansion is Chinese missions. If anyone had their radio on near The National Archives(or maybe it was the Library of Congress) any way, you pick up a broadcast from a group from The Republic of China. I tried to follow it like any other signal, but it went nowhere. Now it seems that it was like a telephone operator "to continue this quest please deposit XX dollars to continue."
Kelegacy
12-06-2008, 02:47 PM
Quick rant.
I just cannot get into this game.
It just feels so clumsy to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
I keep finding myself in fights where I have absolutely no ammo, and they're shooting machine guns and rockets.
What the fuck?
I got annoyed/pissed off at it and turned it off. Urgh.
Not serving its purpose to me.
EternalGamer hated it or was lost to say the least, until we told him how to use VATS. He had actually played a dozen hours or so without knowing how to use VATS (or what it was) and was playing it like a FPS. If that's your problem, correct the issue NOW.
This is not a FPS.
carnage11
12-06-2008, 02:53 PM
Ha. I thought the kids were brats, but wanting to kill them? Wow.
If you like the radio stations, there is one that you can find on a mission. I was surprised at how cool that mission was. Some old lady in a hidden shack gives you her radio station and a special weapon. Both great.
Speaking of radio stations, is there a point to turning on those SOS signals? I turned on quite a few, but you get static and Morse code. Anybody get anything from those?
Most of the radio towers have distress signals, if you listen to it you can usually triangulate where it's coming from. It's never anything important, but most times there's a good amount of loot to be found (skill books, ammo, weapons, caps, etc.)
There's one somewhere around Minefield I believe. It's a man saying his family are in a drainage tunnel somewhere. I was really thinking I might find these guys down there and save them, only to find their rotten corpses in a pile holding each other. Rather sad, but I did snatch some pretty good loot off their bodies.
I honestly believe the best part of this game are moments like that, that are not associated to any kind of mission or side quest. Such a great game.
edit: One thing that really gets on my nerves and probably the only problem I have with the game. If you're in a reload animation, there is no way to break it and get to your pipboy to use a stimpak. So if you're almost dead, get stuck in a reload animation, and have a deathclaw charging you, there's no way to survive. Opening your pipboy should be able break the reload animation. Some times they're really long too. Like you have to fiddle with the clip because it didn't go in right or something. I mean, I guess it's realistic in that sense, but really if I wanted to stop reloading my gun and jam a stimpak in my leg I should be able to.
Abednigo
12-06-2008, 02:58 PM
Sadly the motion sickness hit me big time when I was wandering around Megaton for about half an hour. Granted it was after about 3 hours of playing. But the Vault didn't effect me like that. I think it was just how fast I was turning around and running through the saloon that did it to me. The wide open spaces are much easier on me. I think I'm going to try some ginger Altoids (which my wife got for the morning sickness but hasn't used) or even Dramamine. This game is too good to be turned off by a little nausea and vertigo. ;)
Wackman3000
12-06-2008, 03:29 PM
edit: One thing that really gets on my nerves and probably the only problem I have with the game. If you're in a reload animation, there is no way to break it and get to your pipboy to use a stimpak. So if you're almost dead, get stuck in a reload animation, and have a deathclaw charging you, there's no way to survive. Opening your pipboy should be able break the reload animation. Some times they're really long too. Like you have to fiddle with the clip because it didn't go in right or something. I mean, I guess it's realistic in that sense, but really if I wanted to stop reloading my gun and jam a stimpak in my leg I should be able to.
Set the stimpak to a hotkey.... You should be able to use it mid reload.
KingGorilla
12-06-2008, 03:43 PM
Yeah, you can set the Stimpack, or water bottle, etc. to any of the 8 hotkeys.
carnage11
12-06-2008, 03:45 PM
Set the stimpak to a hotkey.... You should be able to use it mid reload.
Huh....I might have to give that a try. I was thinking only weapons could be hot keyed. I never thought to put the stimpak in there.
edit: yep it does work. Thanks!
Smoof
12-06-2008, 06:31 PM
I found one that was a small distress call leading to people who had died in the war. A few weapons/ammo boxes but nothing special. I think I found another one that just sounded weird and creepy, like a broadcast of gnashing teeth and heavy breathing. I never figured out where the source was coming from, but I also didn't really want to...
I found this as well:
I found the source. Just a Glowing One standing by the ham radio, breathing into it; it was pretty damn funny.
Karak
12-07-2008, 01:22 AM
Damn game.
I love it but suddenly and with little warning, I fell into the endgame. That fucking SUCKS.
I didn't think I was close at all...
Gwinny
12-07-2008, 02:14 AM
Damn game.
I love it but suddenly and with little warning, I fell into the endgame. That fucking SUCKS.
I didn't think I was close at all...
Aw. :( I was avoiding spoilers until I was told that you can't keep playing after the end, so I went and spoiled myself to find out exactly when that was so I could avoid it. It sucks to have no warning!
I'm on my second play-through and even with forty-odd hours with the first character (who hasn't finished the main quest yet), I'm finding new stuff. I tried to play as a more villainous character, but I can never be too mean - neutral is as bad as I've gotten, although I did detonate the bomb this time around to have the nicer Tenpenny suite. I felt so bad for Moira, though... that made me feel like a total ass. Maybe she'll fall in love with Winthrop and they'll live happily, and skinlessly, ever after?
I picked up the Mysterious Stranger perk a level or two ago and he has yet to make an appearance. Is that normal? I've probably used VATS a hundred times since getting the perk... Hmph. Anyway, I choose to believe that he's the spirit of James, guarding his son , like a cheesy JRPG. (It works 'cause I did that part before picking up the perk, see.)
Oh, and speaking of him, he found out I blew up Megaton and, like the Moira thing, I just felt like a complete douchebag for disappointing him. So now I'm playing a basically nice character again...
Gah, MGS4 - our love burns as brightly as it has for the last ten years, but I think Fallout 3 has to be my GOTY.
menage
12-07-2008, 08:31 AM
Aw. :( I was avoiding spoilers until I was told that you can't keep playing after the end, so I went and spoiled myself to find out exactly when that was so I could avoid it. It sucks to have no warning!
I'm on my second play-through and even with forty-odd hours with the first character (who hasn't finished the main quest yet), I'm finding new stuff. I tried to play as a more villainous character, but I can never be too mean - neutral is as bad as I've gotten, although I did detonate the bomb this time around to have the nicer Tenpenny suite. I felt so bad for Moira, though... that made me feel like a total ass. Maybe she'll fall in love with Winthrop and they'll live happily, and skinlessly, ever after?
Same story here. got to a point in the story where no way in hell I could continue on just exploring with the story evolving the way it did. It wouldn't feel natural.
So i also started a new character. Trying to be evil as well, I'm stealing a lot and shooting friendly folks outside of the main city's at the moment. I've got to get into Burke's house and completely loot Megaton and kill everyone before I blow it to hell though, so I'm keeping a low profile there. Murphy and his ghoul friend already got their asses handed, so did that railroad broad when she tried to interfere with my own goddamn business. Now I'm of to become a vampire.
I decided my chara has a weak spot for kids and goth girls though. :D
Playing on hard mode as well, so far i like the challenge. had a great encounter with a super mutant master on level 3 already. Quite a fight.
Rock Bandit
12-08-2008, 05:17 AM
I decided my chara has a weak spot for kids and goth girls though. :D
I can't talk to goth girls, I just stare and stammer.
menage
12-09-2008, 06:50 AM
Damn. Those flashes of purple really freaked me out in the beginning, I thought for real that my 360 was kicking the bucket again.
I facepalmed in the end though.
This game is brilliant.
Mr. Murphy
12-09-2008, 07:06 AM
Sadly the motion sickness hit me big time when I was wandering around Megaton for about half an hour. Granted it was after about 3 hours of playing. But the Vault didn't effect me like that. I think it was just how fast I was turning around and running through the saloon that did it to me. The wide open spaces are much easier on me. I think I'm going to try some ginger Altoids (which my wife got for the morning sickness but hasn't used) or even Dramamine. This game is too good to be turned off by a little nausea and vertigo. ;)
Did you try playing it in third person? Hold down one of the shoulder buttons and it lets you move the camera around. I prefer to play in a Dead Space/Resident Evil 4 over-the-shoulder view so I can see how cool my dude looks. Might help with the motion sickness.
You mentioned Call of Cthulhu a few pages back, and I gotta say, that is the ONLY game I've ever gotten motion sickness from. I really really wanted to play it, too, but I got sick within ten minutes every time. Shame really.
Virtual Machine
12-10-2008, 09:05 AM
It is done. And i was completely satisfied.
Raven Rock was fan-friggin-tastic, and watching the place explode whilst i was walking away with Fawkes was brilliant! But that was nothing compared to a fleet of us in Brotherhood power armor marching across the capitol with Liberty Prime. BAD.ASS!
Got the "good" ending, felt it was very well suited to my actions throughout the game.
Abednigo
12-11-2008, 08:15 AM
Did you try playing it in third person? Hold down one of the shoulder buttons and it lets you move the camera around. I prefer to play in a Dead Space/Resident Evil 4 over-the-shoulder view so I can see how cool my dude looks. Might help with the motion sickness.
I actually have the PC version, and I have tried in 3rd person but since the view isn't directly behind you, and it's not really "over the shoulder" like RE4, it wasn't really easy to play. But I find that if I play it when I'm not too tired and chew on some ginger altoids or ginger candy then I'm fine. But when I start getting really tired in the evening and wander into Megaton I can have problems.
I got to the dreaded (according to my coworker) fire ants last night while trying to find that kids dad. I got an assualt rifle and combat shotgun in the Super Mart so those helped, but I really need to find a hunting rifle. My coworkers say it's the best weapon overall in their experience for most long/medium range attacks. I've killed a ton of raiders (which is where they say I can get one) but haven't looted one yet.
But I'm almost level 4. I love this game.
biosc1
12-11-2008, 08:29 AM
I actually have the PC version, and I have tried in 3rd person but since the view isn't directly behind you, and it's not really "over the shoulder" like RE4, it wasn't really easy to play. But I find that if I play it when I'm not too tired and chew on some ginger altoids or ginger candy then I'm fine. But when I start getting really tired in the evening and wander into Megaton I can have problems.
I got to the dreaded (according to my coworker) fire ants last night while trying to find that kids dad. I got an assualt rifle and combat shotgun in the Super Mart so those helped, but I really need to find a hunting rifle. My coworkers say it's the best weapon overall in their experience for most long/medium range attacks. I've killed a ton of raiders (which is where they say I can get one) but haven't looted one yet.
But I'm almost level 4. I love this game.
I started the ants really early (around level 4 too), but then got distracted. Coming back at level 14, they really weren't a problem ;)
The hunting rifle is nice...but it's upgrade is nicer...
For fire ants, you want land mines/frag mines/frag grenades. Makes them soft like a piece of taffy.
Abednigo
12-11-2008, 08:47 AM
For fire ants, you want land mines/frag mines/frag grenades. Makes them soft like a piece of taffy.
Yeah, I used up all my frag grenades on two of them. I have a few bottlecap mines but I'm not too sure how to use them yet. LOL!
Telefrog
12-11-2008, 09:00 AM
I got to the dreaded (according to my coworker) fire ants last night while trying to find that kids dad. I got an assualt rifle and combat shotgun in the Super Mart so those helped, but I really need to find a hunting rifle. My coworkers say it's the best weapon overall in their experience for most long/medium range attacks. I've killed a ton of raiders (which is where they say I can get one) but haven't looted one yet.
But I'm almost level 4. I love this game.
The Hunting Rifle is awesome. In fact, it may even be a bit overpowered at lower levels. I got my mitts on one at third level and the Fire Ants were no trouble at all.
Abednigo
12-11-2008, 09:09 AM
The Hunting Rifle is awesome. In fact, it may even be a bit overpowered at lower levels. I got my mitts on one at third level and the Fire Ants were no trouble at all.
I've read that super mutants are the most reliable to carry hunting rifles. I just need to find where they are. :) I killed dozens of raiders last night and didn't find one. I don't know how the PC version differs from the console versions in weapon drops though.
crazyD
12-11-2008, 09:35 AM
I've read that super mutants are the most reliable to carry hunting rifles. I just need to find where they are. :) I killed dozens of raiders last night and didn't find one. I don't know how the PC version differs from the console versions in weapon drops though.
Downtown (bottom right of map) has plenty of Super Mutants.
Kelegacy
12-11-2008, 09:44 AM
That's what I like about the randomness. I received my first hunting rifle in Super Duper Mart. I didn't find my first combat shotgun until later, when I encountered some raiders on one of the highway overpasses.
I still use my hunting rifle, but usually as a preemptive weapon from a distance. I rely on my chinese assault rifle more because I have TONS of ammo for it and realized I better stop hoarding and start using. The other weapon (other than a melee or unarmed device) I take with me into the field every time is the combat shotgun (insane at close range). With those 3, I'm pretty well rounded. I will still pick up and repair the odd submachine gun or silenced pistol and use them for a bit if I am killing some easy creatures like ghouls, but for the most part I've become assault-rifle centric.
I haven't played for a couple weeks, but I'm currently only level 12-14. Can't remember. It's definitely a game I'll be going back to for months to come.
Telefrog
12-11-2008, 09:51 AM
That's what I like about the randomness. I received my first hunting rifle in Super Duper Mart. I didn't find my first combat shotgun until later, when I encountered some raiders on one of the highway overpasses.
I got my hunting rifle in Springfield Elementary which I stumbled across right after leaving the Vault. I love that weapon.
Abednigo
12-11-2008, 09:51 AM
That's what I like about the randomness. I received my first hunting rifle in Super Duper Mart. I didn't find my first combat shotgun until later, when I encountered some raiders on one of the highway overpasses.
I still use my hunting rifle, but usually as a preemptive weapon from a distance. I rely on my chinese assault rifle more because I have TONS of ammo for it and realized I better stop hoarding and start using. The other weapon (other than a melee or unarmed device) I take with me into the field every time is the combat shotgun (insane at close range). With those 3, I'm pretty well rounded. I will still pick up and repair the odd submachine gun or silenced pistol and use them for a bit if I am killing some easy creatures like ghouls, but for the most part I've become assault-rifle centric.
I haven't played for a couple weeks, but I'm currently only level 12-14. Can't remember. It's definitely a game I'll be going back to for months to come.
I've been using the assualt rifle a lot. I got the combat shotgun in the Super Mart and you're right, at close range it's crazy (and unpleasant for the recipient of it's craziness). The assault rifle has been great though. Much better than the 10mm pistol I had been using all the time.
Yeah, I pretty much used nothing but Chinese Assault, Combat Shotgun and Sniper Rifle for my ranged weapons. Occasionally used a 10mm for bloatflies and other minor threats.
Did you know that most robots (except the heavy sentries) are simple to kill with a baseball bat? Just keep running and strafing behind them. It's hilarious to watch them try and turn fast enough to damage you.
Abednigo
12-11-2008, 11:04 AM
Did you know that most robots (except the heavy sentries) are simple to kill with a baseball bat? Just keep running and strafing behind them. It's hilarious to watch them try and turn fast enough to damage you.
No, but I didn't expect the robot in the Super Mart to attack me after I vaporized a raider with the energy rifle. LOL!
Telefrog
12-11-2008, 11:08 AM
Some details of the upcoming DLC: http://au.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/937/937202p1.html
[T]he plan is currently for the third DLC, Broken Steel, to increase the level cap. This will be accompanied by new foes, perks and all of the other Fallout 3 staples our fans expect.
...
Based on a lot of feedback, we're going to allow the player to continue on after the main quest ends in the Broken Steel DLC. While a lot of details still have to be sorted, this will allow the player to continue on and play in the Wasteland enjoying the side and freeform quests, along with any new downloadable content we have planned in the future.
Fuckin-A!
zarathstra
12-11-2008, 11:39 AM
Some details of the upcoming DLC: http://au.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/937/937202p1.html
Fuckin-A!
Dude, awesome
menage
12-11-2008, 11:44 AM
Some details of the upcoming DLC: http://au.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/937/937202p1.html
Fuckin-A!
Yeah, pump that fucker up till 50 and I will never leave the house again:D
KingGorilla
12-11-2008, 11:51 AM
When I saw the end movie. I had to really wonder: Why are you telling me I went on and continued exploring? Why not let me do it? Was it the ham handed "moral choice" of supposed sacrifice?
TrackZero
12-11-2008, 11:57 AM
Some details of the upcoming DLC: http://au.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/937/937202p1.html
Fuckin-A!
See game developers? This is all it takes. A few quick questions answered honestly without the bullshit, and now we're uber-fucking hyped for DLC of all things. If there's no beating around the bush, it makes people happier.
TheEvilNarwhale
12-11-2008, 11:59 AM
Best weapon in the game? Lincoln's repeater. It's a hunting rifle with a 15 round clip that shoots magnum rounds. It makes quick work of just about anything with a head.
Banacek
12-11-2008, 12:07 PM
Best weapon in the game? Lincoln's repeater. It's a hunting rifle with a 15 round clip that shoots magnum rounds. It makes quick work of just about anything with a head.
No way. Nothing beats the Alien Blaster. I love the sound it makes as it disintegrates people.
TheEvilNarwhale
12-11-2008, 12:15 PM
Well I haven't found that yet. But I was told the ammo is pretty limited for that.
Kelegacy
12-11-2008, 12:22 PM
What's the Lincoln Repeater use for ammo? .44? And can it be repaired?
I picked it up the last time I played, and haven't got to use it yet. I don't have a ton of .44 ammo, but if you can use a hunting rifle to repair it, I'm good as gold.
TheEvilNarwhale
12-11-2008, 12:25 PM
What's the Lincoln Repeater use for ammo? .44? And can it be repaired?
I picked it up the last time I played, and haven't got to use it yet. I don't have a ton of .44 ammo, but if you can use a hunting rifle to repair it, I'm good as gold.
Yep you just use hunting rifles to fix it. I haven't found a named weapon that can't be repaired by a similar weapon.
Banacek
12-11-2008, 12:28 PM
Well I haven't found that yet. But I was told the ammo is pretty limited for that.
It is, but by the time I found it I was lvl 20 so that plus the blaster meant one shot kills.
You also can't repair it so it doesn't last long. Still a lot of fun though.
Variable Gear
12-11-2008, 12:38 PM
When I saw the end movie. I had to really wonder: Why are you telling me I went on and continued exploring? Why not let me do it? Was it the ham handed "moral choice" of supposed sacrifice?
God damn that ending was terrible.
Banacek
12-11-2008, 12:40 PM
God damn that ending was terrible.
It's even worse when you have Fawkes in your party, because then it makes no god damn sense.
biosc1
12-11-2008, 12:41 PM
What's the Lincoln Repeater use for ammo? .44? And can it be repaired?
I picked it up the last time I played, and haven't got to use it yet. I don't have a ton of .44 ammo, but if you can use a hunting rifle to repair it, I'm good as gold.
I am so low on .44...actually I have none and I haven't stumbled across any for a very long time. All my stores/traders don't have any either :(
Is it just me or is this world low on .44 rounds? Maybe I just haven't stumbled across a stash yet. Heck, I'm not even finding scoped Magnums anymore, so that can explain why I'm not finding the ammo.
Telefrog
12-11-2008, 01:07 PM
I am so low on .44...actually I have none and I haven't stumbled across any for a very long time. All my stores/traders don't have any either :(
Is it just me or is this world low on .44 rounds? Maybe I just haven't stumbled across a stash yet. Heck, I'm not even finding scoped Magnums anymore, so that can explain why I'm not finding the ammo.
It's not just you. There's very little .44 ammo, especially in the late game when you might have the Lincoln Repeater.
Scaryfaced
12-11-2008, 01:17 PM
It's not just you. There's very little .44 ammo, especially in the late game when you might have the Lincoln Repeater.
I've been pretty lucky when it comes to .44 ammo. I've got about 4 or 5 traders who I can rely on having at least a small amount of .44 ammo, so when I find myself running low, I fast travel around to each to buy out their stock. I can usually gather about 70-100 rounds every few days (game time), which is plenty.
Variable Gear
12-11-2008, 01:25 PM
I've got a ton of .44 ammo. I've got over 500 rounds easily. ;)
I had a lot of 44 ammo! It helps to rob the armories when you find them. Megaton has one, and the one outside Tenpenny Towers is ripe for the picking.
Wackman3000
12-11-2008, 01:27 PM
It's not just you. There's very little .44 ammo, especially in the late game when you might have the Lincoln Repeater.
IF you are going to use .44 ammo, there is an even better weapon than the repeater called the Blackhawk. (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Blackhawk)
When I used that while sneaking from long range, nothing survived.
Was I the only person who carried an array of weapons? I always had a stockpile of grenades and frags to drop in peoples pants, a small arm or 2, chinesse assault rifle, custom hunting rifle Ol' Painless, Custom Combat Shotgun, missile launcher, and a shiskabab.
Was I the only person who carried an array of weapons? I always had a stockpile of grenades and frags to drop in peoples pants, a small arm or 2, chinesse assault rifle, custom hunting rifle Ol' Painless, Custom Combat Shotgun, missile launcher, and a shiskabab.I carried all these, plus the 10mm submachine gun, some nuka grenades, bottlecap mines, a bat in case I was in a gassy corridor (NO SHISHKEBOOM!), the sniper, and a couple others. This, even though I (like I said earlier) pretty much only used Chinese Assault, Combat Shotgun and Sniper. I was obsessive about having those other weapons... "in case".
Yes, I was almost always 2 pounds away from being overencumbered.
Variable Gear
12-11-2008, 01:38 PM
I carried all of that, until I realized that I almost never used my mines or grenades, so I sold all of them for mad profit. I still kept my 10mm Sub Machinegun, Chinese Assault Rifle, Terrible Shotgun, Lincoln's Repeater, Reservist's Rifle, and the Ripper. This meant I couldn't hold that much loot begin with, but I always picked up Strong Back to stymie that.
Telefrog
12-11-2008, 01:40 PM
From the Anchorage DLC:
http://i34.tinypic.com/xeqsno.jpg
Oh, hell yes.
biosc1
12-11-2008, 05:07 PM
Reminds me of GI Joe's Snake Eye's for some reason.
Abednigo
12-11-2008, 07:40 PM
Well I ran into a ton of raiders and a super mutant tonight. A raider finally had the hunting rifle! I got a few flamers though too after dying twice when I didn't see them coming. I'm so low on ammo though it's ridiculous.
carnage11
12-11-2008, 10:16 PM
Well I ran into a ton of raiders and a super mutant tonight. A raider finally had the hunting rifle! I got a few flamers though too after dying twice when I didn't see them coming. I'm so low on ammo though it's ridiculous.
That changes drastically later in the game. I easily have over 1000 rounds for every gun I own, minus the sniper rifle and mini nukes of course.
I also have something like 14k caps, and nothing to spend them on.
Is there anyone that can repair stuff more than 50%? My repair skill is 100, so I'm set for regular guns, but getting my special guns and armor repaired is impossible, well at least more than 50%. It's dumb, because some times I'll find armor that will repair other armor, but not vice versa. For example, T51b Power Armor will repair Enclave Power Armor, but the Enclave Power Armor will not repair my T51b Armor. Why?
Wackman3000
12-11-2008, 10:25 PM
That changes drastically later in the game. I easily have over 1000 rounds for every gun I own, minus the sniper rifle and mini nukes of course.
I also have something like 14k caps, and nothing to spend them on.
Is there anyone that can repair stuff more than 50%? My repair skill is 100, so I'm set for regular guns, but getting my special guns and armor repaired is impossible, well at least more than 50%. It's dumb, because some times I'll find armor that will repair other armor, but not vice versa. For example, T51b Power Armor will repair Enclave Power Armor, but the Enclave Power Armor will not repair my T51b Armor. Why?
IF you want to repair the power armors with other power armors, there is a mod out there.
Sazime
12-11-2008, 11:59 PM
I'm on my third play through, and even after spending almost 70 hours on the second I'm finding new stuff.
tacitus
12-12-2008, 06:08 AM
Is there anyone that can repair stuff more than 50%? My repair skill is 100, so I'm set for regular guns, but getting my special guns and armor repaired is impossible, well at least more than 50%. It's dumb, because some times I'll find armor that will repair other armor, but not vice versa. For example, T51b Power Armor will repair Enclave Power Armor, but the Enclave Power Armor will not repair my T51b Armor. Why?
You can invest in the wandering merchants with a guy at Canterbury Commons to increase their repair ability. I suspect the T51b issue is an annoying bug.
Virtual Machine
12-12-2008, 06:28 AM
I pretty much stuck with two named weapons exclusively towards the end:
"A-21's Plasma Rifle" and the "Xuanlong" Chinese Assault Rifle (which i just stumbled across in an old diner.
Every now and again i broke out the minigun (non VATS attacks against critters) and Lincoln's Repeater.
The t51b armor started out awesome, but it was Tesla all the way after Raven Rock - no trouble repairing the stuff to 100 percent, while my t51b stuff was weaksauce due to stress fatigue or something.
TrackZero
12-12-2008, 06:46 AM
Is there anyone that can repair stuff more than 50%? My repair skill is 100, so I'm set for regular guns, but getting my special guns and armor repaired is impossible, well at least more than 50%. It's dumb, because some times I'll find armor that will repair other armor, but not vice versa. For example, T51b Power Armor will repair Enclave Power Armor, but the Enclave Power Armor will not repair my T51b Armor. Why?
The T-51b armor is glitched, you can't repair it (except apparently also with the unique medical power armor, of which there's 1 in the game), it'll be fixed in the upcoming content patch mentioned in that article (after which I assume any power armor can repair it). In the meantime you can give it to Star Paladin Cross (if you have her in your party) since it won't take damage there, or store it away for later. If you want it repaired to 100, give it to the Outcast Brotherhood leader who trades for new tech. Then kill him and take it off his body, it'll be back at 100 condition, same goes for the Alien Blaster.
TrackZero
12-12-2008, 06:48 AM
I pretty much stuck with two named weapons exclusively towards the end:
"A-21's Plasma Rifle" and the "Xuanlong" Chinese Assault Rifle (which i just stumbled across in an old diner.
Every now and again i broke out the minigun (non VATS attacks against critters) and Lincoln's Repeater.
The t51b armor started out awesome, but it was Tesla all the way after Raven Rock - no trouble repairing the stuff to 100 percent, while my t51b stuff was weaksauce due to stress fatigue or something.
Depends on my character, but you definitely named off some solid ones. Quite honestly the A-21 Plasma Rifle may be the best in the game world for all around ammo capacity, damage and easy to find repair parts (late in the game).
The character I'm using right now is all about the heavy weapons though, so I spend a lot of time with my minigun and flamer. Still have to look for the named versions of those weapons, as well as track down the named laser gatling rifle (I have 5000 ammo of that squirreled away for when I do get it), Vengeance.
jpublic
12-12-2008, 07:20 AM
My favorite weapons were the Blackhawk and Sydney's Ultra SMG.
Between those two I could destroy anything in 2 VATS actions, leaving me with half an AR bar to play with.
Of course, I'm suck I silly packrat I still carried the following (or their special variants):
Chinese Assault Rifle
Combat Shotgun
Laser Rifle/Plasma Rifle
Laser Pistol/Plasma Pistol
Hunting Rifle
Sniper Rifle
I just couldn't bring myself to not carry a carload of weaponry.
Oh, by the way, on the Mysterious Stranger Perk - I took that when it was first available and he only showed up ablout 25 times in the whole of the game. Nice perk when it kicks in (insta-death for your opponent) but so damn rare it's a good candidate to skip.
Telefrog
12-12-2008, 08:01 AM
Of course, I'm suck I silly packrat I still carried the following (or their special variants):
Chinese Assault Rifle
Combat Shotgun
Laser Rifle/Plasma Rifle
Laser Pistol/Plasma Pistol
Hunting Rifle
Sniper Rifle
I just couldn't bring myself to not carry a carload of weaponry.
I'm like most of you. I lug around a crapload of weapons and ammo. The good thing is that I realized a long time ago that ammo (besides being there to shoot at enemies) is just another form of money. It has no weight and almost everyone will buy it, so why not take as much as you can?
I am pretty pissed at myself that I'd been ignoring boxes of Darts lying around because I didn't realize they were ammo as well.
carnage11
12-12-2008, 08:03 AM
Good to know it's a glitch, I hope they fix it. As it is right now, I used my T51b Power Armor to repair my Lindon's Outcast Power Armor. They were the same thing (+1 Strength, +5 Big Guns, +15 Rad Res) so I figured it didn't matter. I still have the T51b Helmet though and it's broken and unusable.
Oh, by the way, on the Mysterious Stranger Perk - I took that when it was first available and he only showed up ablout 25 times in the whole of the game. Nice perk when it kicks in (insta-death for your opponent) but so damn rare it's a good candidate to skip.Maybe because my luck was so high, I saw the Stranger every 4 or 5 kills I made. He was hilarious and extremely helpful in capping some of the major threats I faced. I even watched him take out a turret for me, which was funny because he dropped from the ceiling where the turret was, then looked up and shot it to death.
TrackZero
12-12-2008, 08:38 AM
Good to know it's a glitch, I hope they fix it. As it is right now, I used my T51b Power Armor to repair my Lindon's Outcast Power Armor. They were the same thing (+1 Strength, +5 Big Guns, +15 Rad Res) so I figured it didn't matter. I still have the T51b Helmet though and it's broken and unusable.
Ugh. The T-51b has a 10 DR higher rating than Lindon's Outcast Power Armor. As well it has no + bonuses aside from radiation resistance (and thus, no minuses either). (Helmet also has the highest DR in the game as well as a +1 CHR and +8 rad res.) But, ce la vie. I've stowed mine away in a closet until the patch.
Borthcollective
12-12-2008, 08:48 AM
Maybe because my luck was so high, I saw the Stranger every 4 or 5 kills I made. He was hilarious and extremely helpful in capping some of the major threats I faced. I even watched him take out a turret for me, which was funny because he dropped from the ceiling where the turret was, then looked up and shot it to death.
I had that exact same turret/stranger kill. I thought I was going to get stuck in a stranger loop again.
Wackman3000
12-12-2008, 10:10 AM
I believe this (http://www.fileplanet.com/194406/190000/fileinfo/Fallout-3---Cross-Armor-Repair-v1.1) is the mod I used to fix the T51b Power Armor problems. It also let's you repair a wide variety of other armors as well.
headhunter228
12-12-2008, 10:32 AM
I'm like most of you. I lug around a crapload of weapons and ammo. The good thing is that I realized a long time ago that ammo (besides being there to shoot at enemies) is just another form of money. It has no weight and almost everyone will buy it, so why not take as much as you can?
I am pretty pissed at myself that I'd been ignoring boxes of Darts lying around because I didn't realize they were ammo as well.
Here's my usual loadout:
10mm SMG
Chinese Assult Rifle
Combat Shotgun
Scoped .44 Magnum
Sniper Rifle
Super Sledge and/or Ripper
The only real reason I carry a Super Sledge around is to use it on Feral Ghouls. It's quite fun to pick up the Bloody Mess perk, then use my giant-ass hammer and/or mini chainsaw to turn ghouls into so as much chunks of bloody meat. Bliss.
Khrymsyn
12-12-2008, 11:09 AM
Mainly I run around with this loadout :
Chinese Assault Rifle
Combat Shotgun
Hunting Rifle
Shishkebob
various mines and grenades.
Only problem I've been running into is being low on ammo a LOT. Luckily for me, I've been storing ammo and weapons back at my house in Megaton, so I think it's time to switch over to my 10mm SMG, Combat Shotgun, Laser Pistol (some special named one I have), Sniper Rifle, and Ripper. I have a sick amount of ammo for each. =)
headhunter228
12-12-2008, 11:19 AM
Me, I try to avoid carrying laser weapons. I like to stick with just small guns, or just big guns. Maybe throw in a melee weapon. That way, I can max out my Small Guns faster. Even so, when I'm done with my current character build (an evil, silver-tongued seductress who just happens to be a crack shot), I'm going to start on my heavy Main Battle Tank. I have the build already written down. It's going to be sweet when I max out my Big Guns and get the Pyromaniac perk. When that happens, everyone will know when I'm around, because EVERYTHING will be on fire.
crazyD
12-12-2008, 11:24 AM
Only problem I've been running into is being low on ammo a LOT. Luckily for me, I've been storing ammo and weapons back at my house in Megaton, so I think it's time to switch over to my 10mm SMG, Combat Shotgun, Laser Pistol (some special named one I have), Sniper Rifle, and Ripper. I have a sick amount of ammo for each. =)
Why store ammo? It has no weight.
carnage11
12-12-2008, 02:27 PM
Ugh. The T-51b has a 10 DR higher rating than Lindon's Outcast Power Armor. As well it has no + bonuses aside from radiation resistance (and thus, no minuses either). (Helmet also has the highest DR in the game as well as a +1 CHR and +8 rad res.) But, ce la vie. I've stowed mine away in a closet until the patch.
Yeah but Lindon's has a +1 STR and + 10 Big Guns, which for me, are more important than the higher DR. It does have a -1 AGL, but I use Poplar's Hood to balance that out. I like being able to carry the extra weight, sometimes I'll even pop some buffout to get me home. I did save the T51b Helmet though. I'm hoping this patch will come to the 360? That's what I'm playing on, so no mods for me.
Khrymsyn
12-12-2008, 02:52 PM
Why store ammo? It has no weight.
Mainly to keep my inventory as uncluttered as possible.
Sazime
12-12-2008, 05:15 PM
After dealing with one character full of ammo and weapons he didn't use, I switched to a lightweight character that was high on med stats so I could survive on stimpacks. This time?
Minigun
Missle Launcher
Flamer
The Shocker
The Tenderizer
Baseball Bat
Heavy, big weapons with plenty of Unarmed and Melee goodness. I only need to use my big guns when pelted from afar by multiple enemies. Indoors, I create meat paste with my hands.
KingGorilla
12-12-2008, 06:01 PM
Mainly to keep my inventory as uncluttered as possible.
Ah, you have THAT disease.
Ammo, for me, was currency. Mini-Nukes, 10mm rounds were like pocket change and medium size bills.
Banacek
12-12-2008, 06:40 PM
Ah, you have THAT disease.
Ammo, for me, was currency. Mini-Nukes, 10mm rounds were like pocket change and medium size bills.
Same here. By the end game I was a walking arsenal and bank.
Rogue_hunter
12-12-2008, 07:03 PM
After dealing with one character full of ammo and weapons he didn't use, I switched to a lightweight character that was high on med stats so I could survive on stimpacks. This time?
Minigun
Missle Launcher
Flamer
The Shocker
The Tenderizer
Baseball Bat
Heavy, big weapons with plenty of Unarmed and Melee goodness. I only need to use my big guns when pelted from afar by multiple enemies. Indoors, I create meat paste with my hands.
You need to find "Fisto!" to add to that list. It's the special named version of the Power Fist, and is uber-fun. I believe it's in the MDPL-13 Power Station, in one of the offices. It's just sitting out on one of the tables.
Sazime
12-12-2008, 07:16 PM
You need to find "Fisto!" to add to that list. It's the special named version of the Power Fist, and is uber-fun. I believe it's in the MDPL-13 Power Station, in one of the offices. It's just sitting out on one of the tables.
That's what The Shocker is, but I'll keep Fisto! along with it when I grab it. :)
KingGorilla
12-12-2008, 09:15 PM
Same here. By the end game I was a walking arsenal and bank.
I just realized that we were basically arms dealers.
My big bitch is that rail spikes got rather scarce as I became dependent on that gun. Mostly because it reminded me of the Rail gun in FEAR, and I could crucify bitches with it.
Virtual Machine
12-12-2008, 09:20 PM
I cannot stress enough the effectiveness of the Xuanlong Assault Rifle. Which is a relatively easy pick up from a dead body in a diner just east of vault 101. This named version of the Chinese AR is a damage MONSTER - highest DR of any non heavy weapon i found in the game. And the relative common nature of 5.56 ammo and Chinese AR's for repairs makes it effective for a long duration. I was one and two hitting Tesla armored Enclave guys at the end.
KingGorilla
12-12-2008, 09:26 PM
The Android's plasma rifle became my go to gun, especially at the end when plasma rifles dropped like rain. Full Energy weapons, and that baby made for some nice and gooey head shots.
Virtual Machine
12-12-2008, 09:49 PM
The Android's plasma rifle became my go to gun, especially at the end when plasma rifles dropped like rain. Full Energy weapons, and that baby made for some nice and gooey head shots.
Oh it's a beast for sure.
That was my "other" go to gun. My energy weapons skill never quite climbed to the heights of my small arms and big guns skills...
The big guns skill is a waste.
Banacek
12-12-2008, 10:09 PM
Oh it's a beast for sure.
That was my "other" go to gun. My energy weapons skill never quite climbed to the heights of my small arms and big guns skills...
The big guns skill is a waste.
My next play-though is going to be a big gun brute. I hope it turns out being fun.
Philonious
12-13-2008, 12:35 AM
I just finished, and have to say that I was disappointed by the lack of vignettes... I actually restarted the game after putting in 40 hours because I felt I messed up a town or two only to find out that it didn't matter. I loved most of my time with the game, but was getting a little sick of it after putting over 90 hours into it.
Having to sacrifice yourself in the end was REALLY stupid, and too pat for a Fallout ending... Especially since they've revealed that you're still alive in the final expansion. I'm also annoyed that Autumn survives what supposedly kills both you and you're father.
I'm still looking forward to the sequel, and hope that they increase the cap and tighten everything up a little. So much to do... So little reason to do it. Maybe have the plot require more exploration, or at least reward it better.
Virtual Machine
12-13-2008, 07:40 AM
My next play-though is going to be a big gun brute. I hope it turns out being fun.
My big guns skill was at 100, and i found i was still destroying stuff with the Xuanlong and A-21 rifles in less than half the time it would take me with a laser gattler.
Hotcod
12-13-2008, 08:17 AM
get the vengeances laser gattler.... it is a thing of beauty
Sazime
12-13-2008, 02:33 PM
The big guns skill is a waste.
My big guns skill was at 100, and i found i was still destroying stuff with the Xuanlong and A-21 rifles in less than half the time it would take me with a laser gattler.
See, to me Big Guns = Big Target. You've got to be a little close or firing at a Super Mutant to make it really worth while. And fighting a Behemoth indoors? Nothing better than Big Guns and Explosives. :)
If there's one change that I would like to see it would be having large groups of enemies in larger, indoor areas to show how much Big Guns can really shine. Can't wait for the GECK so I can make a Zombie Horde mod for my own amusement.
My next play-though is going to be a big gun brute. I hope it turns out being fun.
I'm really enjoying it with a mix of Explosives, Melee and Unarmed. One on one I hit them with a melee attack. From a distance I pull out the Minigun or Missle Launcher (like I said, Mutants are the best targets). In the Dunwich house it's all Flamer all the time. The undead hate fire and shotguns no matter what the setting.
I dunno, I enjoy Big Guns. :)
carnage11
12-13-2008, 03:53 PM
So I snagged the Terrible Shotgun from some dude, somewhere, I forget. Either way, it lives up to it's name. 80 dmg per shot. Takes out Super Mutant Masters in 2 shots, 3 at most.
I also found out something interesting. If you find yourself over encumbered, but don't want to lose anything, and also don't want to trek across the wasteland at a snails pace. You can throw everything in a dead body, and then carry the dead body. Better, find a severed arm or leg (a bit easier to manage and drag around). You still don't walk at regular pace, but it's a good bit faster than over encumbered. Pretty sweet. So, basically what I do is, throw everything into a raider arm, until I can get outside. Then I find a trash can, dump everything over my limit in the trash can, fast travel to Megaton, dump, then fast travel back and grab what's remaining. I've gotten to the point where I had to make 3 trips because I had so much shit. For instance, Fort Constantine's armory load. M.I.R.V.? oh yeah....:D Oh, and I just happen to have 28 mini nukes lying around. Muwahaha!
Whunpo
12-13-2008, 05:00 PM
So I think I've got a fame ending glitch. Shit. I took a chem during battle, and saved. Now every time the chem wears off, I';m stuck doing that slow movement thing. It's bullshit. I don't have any previous saves to go to, either.
KingGorilla
12-13-2008, 05:35 PM
Or, cut out inventory management because it is dumb.
So I think I've got a fame ending glitch. Shit. I took a chem during battle, and saved. Now every time the chem wears off, I';m stuck doing that slow movement thing. It's bullshit. I don't have any previous saves to go to, either.
What slow moving thing are you talking about? And what chem did you take during the battle?
KingGorilla
12-14-2008, 08:59 PM
When you are addicted and in withdrawl, you get a de-buff to your stats. This effects strength, which effects your carry capacity. If you are close to capacity and become withdrawn, you will be encumbered. I do not think he is suffering a glitch.
carnage11
12-14-2008, 10:16 PM
I think the slow moving thing he's talking about is like when you're in VATS. Maybe because he used a chem and then saved or something. Or maybe I misunderstood.
Banacek
12-14-2008, 10:38 PM
I think the slow moving thing he's talking about is like when you're in VATS. Maybe because he used a chem and then saved or something. Or maybe I misunderstood.
Nah, it sounds like he's got a STR hit from an addiction and can't run. Fixing the addiction should fix it.
When you are addicted and in withdrawl, you get a de-buff to your stats. This effects strength, which effects your carry capacity. If you are close to capacity and become withdrawn, you will be encumbered. I do not think he is suffering a glitch.
Nah, it sounds like he's got a STR hit from an addiction and can't run. Fixing the addiction should fix it.
This is what I was getting at with my questions ;)
carnage11
12-15-2008, 10:32 AM
Nah, it sounds like he's got a STR hit from an addiction and can't run. Fixing the addiction should fix it.
Ahh....well should be an easy fix if he's got the chem kit in his megaton house.
Banacek
12-15-2008, 10:35 AM
Ahh....well should be an easy fix if he's got the chem kit in his megaton house.
A doctor will fix it for 50 caps too.
shunoshi
12-15-2008, 11:29 AM
I've now put about 10-15 hours into Fallout 3. Very cool game. The controls feel just like Oblivion, but the environment is definitely Fallout. I'm pleased with it.
Has anyone had issues with navigating DC? I understand that the Metro lines are the main way to get from place to place, but it seems like a pain in the ass to get anywhere. It took me forever to find my way to the GNR building.
Also:
Did anyone have the doors lock on them in the GNR building after talking to Three Dog? The front door that I entered through needed a key and the two side doors were locked and "very hard" to pick. My lockpicking skill is only about 55 so I'm not even close to being able to pick it. I finally found a way out the back, but it sticks me with one choice of Metro station to enter and moving on towards Rivet City is going to be another pain in the ass.
Anyone else have issues like this?
Abednigo
12-15-2008, 11:37 AM
I'm almost level 5 and have played maybe 10-12 hours (I think). I don't know if that's slow but I'm taking my time. I like seeing and doing everything. I just did the Minefield portion of the Wasteland Survival Guide quest yesterday (blowing off a few limbs in the process), disarmed the bomb in Megaton and found Dogmeat (I won't say where in case it's a spoiler). But what a cool companion. I'm doing The Family quest now and just entered the metro tunnel to find their hideout. It was totally worth the purchase, but I'm glad I got it for 29.95 on Black Friday. ;)
I've been focusing my skill points mostly on Repair, Lockpick and Small Arms. Lockpick and Repair have come in really handy. But I hate that I'm so low on ammo all the time. I nearly cleared out Moira's ammo stock after the last Survival Guide quest. I'm glad Dogmeat can go find ammo for me, but I've had to resort to my 10mm far too often (and have even run out of ammo for that!). Maybe a few skillpoints in melee weapons might be a good idea. :)
carnage11
12-15-2008, 12:11 PM
I've now put about 10-15 hours into Fallout 3. Very cool game. The controls feel just like Oblivion, but the environment is definitely Fallout. I'm pleased with it.
Has anyone had issues with navigating DC? I understand that the Metro lines are the main way to get from place to place, but it seems like a pain in the ass to get anywhere. It took me forever to find my way to the GNR building.
Also:
Did anyone have the doors lock on them in the GNR building after talking to Three Dog? The front door that I entered through needed a key and the two side doors were locked and "very hard" to pick. My lockpicking skill is only about 55 so I'm not even close to being able to pick it. I finally found a way out the back, but it sticks me with one choice of Metro station to enter and moving on towards Rivet City is going to be another pain in the ass.
Anyone else have issues like this?
The metro tunnels are an absolute pain in the ass to navigate. It took me about an hour to find the Arlington Cemetary, and I have the strategy guide with a huge map, that tells you where everything is! You have to find the specific metro tunnel and go through to another tunnel and sometimes the tunnels are multiple levels, and the local map sucks with multiple levels. I feel ya man. Good luck finding Reily's Rangers place. Ugh!
Morangie
12-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Also:
Did anyone have the doors lock on them in the GNR building after talking to Three Dog? The front door that I entered through needed a key and the two side doors were locked and "very hard" to pick. My lockpicking skill is only about 55 so I'm not even close to being able to pick it. I finally found a way out the back, but it sticks me with one choice of Metro station to enter and moving on towards Rivet City is going to be another pain in the ass.
Anyone else have issues like this?
Theres an intercom by the door. If you use that the door should unlock.
Zrikz
12-15-2008, 12:38 PM
Rivet City was easy btw, you can get there without going through any subway station. At least I did. I just skirted around the outside of the city limits and made my way there..
Also, use your local map... if you have a map marker and you need to go through a subway, the map marker will tell you where to go, although multiple levels can get a little confusing/annoying.
shunoshi
12-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Theres an intercom by the door. If you use that the door should unlock.
I know there was one on the outside, but I never saw one on the inside. Is there one I'm not seeing?
Sazime
12-15-2008, 02:47 PM
Also, use your local map... if you have a map marker and you need to go through a subway, the map marker will tell you where to go, although multiple levels can get a little confusing/annoying.
This. I just don't understand how people are getting lost.
johnperkins21
12-15-2008, 04:24 PM
This. I just don't understand how people are getting lost.
I never got "lost," but I did kind of have a hard time figuring out exactly where I needed to go a couple times. Using the marker works really well though. That thing almost always pointed me in the right direction.
Sazime
12-15-2008, 05:39 PM
I never got "lost," but I did kind of have a hard time figuring out exactly where I needed to go a couple times. Using the marker works really well though. That thing almost always pointed me in the right direction.
I was really confused about GNR talk at one point because I had skipped it at headed to Rivet City. Second time through I did it, and if anything, it was just tedious. While the rest of the game seems pretty free, that made me feel like I was on rails.
carnage11
12-15-2008, 11:28 PM
Well the problem with the map markers is, if you don't have the location on your map, then there's nothing to mark. For example, when I was trying to find a skill book in Arlington Cemetery. I knew the cemetery was there, but there was no way to get there without taking metro tunnels. I had no clue which tunnel to take. This is all while looking at the strategy guide and it's 400 some odd pages. I guess it's better if you're not looking for anything specific. You can find most things by just exploring around a bit. I, however, was in a hurry at the time, and got quite frustrated.
Borthcollective
12-16-2008, 06:15 AM
The guide could have a better layout, that is indeed true.
TrackZero
12-16-2008, 06:26 AM
I was really confused about GNR talk at one point because I had skipped it at headed to Rivet City. Second time through I did it, and if anything, it was just tedious. While the rest of the game seems pretty free, that made me feel like I was on rails.
Pretty much going through any part of the city is the same as GNR, involving tunnels and warring factions. Trust me when I say that was no rails.
Also not sure how people kept skipping GNR for Rivet City. I didn't even know Rivet City existed except by name and no description of the place, before Three Dog told me that is. And it's way off to the side.
Borthcollective
12-16-2008, 06:52 AM
You get a marker for it from Moira when you do the 2nd group of Wasteland Survival Guide quests.
headhunter228
12-16-2008, 07:38 AM
I just realized that we were basically arms dealers.
My big bitch is that rail spikes got rather scarce as I became dependent on that gun. Mostly because it reminded me of the Rail gun in FEAR, and I could crucify bitches with it.
Yeah, the railway rifle is most certainly fun, but I've found out (the hard way, I might add) that there's about a 6% chance that the game will crash if you tear an arm off with it. Then again, I play on a PC, so that might be why.
Speaking of FEAR, I still play through that game every so often, just so I get to use the nail gun again. Pinning Replica soldiers to the wall with giant spikes NEVER gets old.
Borthcollective
12-16-2008, 08:57 AM
I actually had a problem with the railway rifle causing crashes too. Killing ghouls with it, would crash every time.
headhunter228
12-16-2008, 09:36 AM
I just prefer to use my melee weapon of choice on Ghouls. They usually go ker-splat when I power-attack with my Super Sledge. It takes a few more hits if I'm attacking a Roamer, though...
Morangie
12-16-2008, 10:21 AM
I know there was one on the outside, but I never saw one on the inside. Is there one I'm not seeing?
Ah, my bad; I though you were outside. I think you've just hit a bug with that.
headhunter228
12-16-2008, 10:34 AM
The metro tunnels are an absolute pain in the ass to navigate. It took me about an hour to find the Arlington Cemetary, and I have the strategy guide with a huge map, that tells you where everything is! You have to find the specific metro tunnel and go through to another tunnel and sometimes the tunnels are multiple levels, and the local map sucks with multiple levels. I feel ya man. Good luck finding Reily's Rangers place. Ugh!
I COULD NOT find the Ranger base until after I'd already completed the quest. I was in pretty bad shape, and I needed some supplies. So, I tried to find the place, only to run around in circles for a couple of hours. Wait until after you've rescued the team members before trying to get there.
Wackman3000
12-16-2008, 10:42 AM
I don't understand how you people are managing to get lost in the wasteland. IF you use the BOTH maps (Local and world) there should never be any reason you can't find your destination.
carnage11
12-16-2008, 10:44 AM
I COULD NOT find the Ranger base until after I'd already completed the quest. I was in pretty bad shape, and I needed some supplies. So, I tried to find the place, only to run around in circles for a couple of hours. Wait until after you've rescued the team members before trying to get there.
I searched for hours until I finally gave up. I put that quest on hold for a while and did some other stuff. Then I literally stumbled on it completely on accident. So I figured, might as well get in there and finish up this quest.
Probably the thing I dislike the most about the game are the invisible walls. There are piles of rubble that you could totally jump over, but you can see the invisible wall holding you back. They are basically just forcing you into the subway tunnels.
shunoshi
12-16-2008, 10:52 AM
Probably the thing I dislike the most about the game are the invisible walls. There are piles of rubble that you could totally jump over, but you can see the invisible wall holding you back. They are basically just forcing you into the subway tunnels.
Yeah, this is my one big gripe about the game. Traversing DC is a never-ending parade of metro tunnels. It's a bit of a pain.
I don't understand how you people are managing to get lost in the wasteland. IF you use the BOTH maps (Local and world) there should never be any reason you can't find your destination.
I'm with you, I had no problems as long as I checked both maps. It's very clear if they want you to take a subway to get to the next checkpoint.
menage
12-16-2008, 03:27 PM
I'm with you, I had no problems as long as I checked both maps. It's very clear if they want you to take a subway to get to the next checkpoint.
And there's tons of little spots to discover using the zoomed in map as well. Shops, hideouts, etc.
Hotcod
12-16-2008, 04:39 PM
I COULD NOT find the Ranger base until after I'd already completed the quest. I was in pretty bad shape, and I needed some supplies. So, I tried to find the place, only to run around in circles for a couple of hours. Wait until after you've rescued the team members before trying to get there.
i went and found with with no trouble at all before i went to the hotel :) just rubbing it in
Jackel
12-16-2008, 05:16 PM
I'm with you, I had no problems as long as I checked both maps. It's very clear if they want you to take a subway to get to the next checkpoint.
Screw the subway system. I swam the entire way to Rivet City, bypassing the GNR stuff. I do have to head back there at some point though.
Sazime
12-16-2008, 05:19 PM
Also not sure how people kept skipping GNR for Rivet City. I didn't even know Rivet City existed except by name and no description of the place, before Three Dog told me that is. And it's way off to the side.
I did by doing Those! first. If you do Moire's quests, you get thrust right into it pretty easily.
Screw the subway system. I swam the entire way to Rivet City, bypassing the GNR stuff. I do have to head back there at some point though.
Yeah, I hear a lot of people did that. But specifically, people getting lost while trying to find GNR need to look more at the map markers. They really do work.
This run-through, I may skip GNR and swim to Rivet :)
headhunter228
12-17-2008, 07:10 AM
Yeah, I hear a lot of people did that. But specifically, people getting lost while trying to find GNR need to look more at the map markers. They really do work.
This run-through, I may skip GNR and swim to Rivet :)
The map markers do work, unless you placed them yourself. I placed a marker on the Ranger base, and tried to follow that. Didn't do me any good. Placing your own markers on a map is all well and good, as long as you don't have to go through subway tunnels just to get to where your marker is set.
jpublic
12-17-2008, 07:45 AM
Really, I didn't mind the subways that much. They were always easy sources for money, and it's not like Ghouls are tough. To me, they were nothing more than another opportunity to watch the Bouncing Head VATS Show.
The map markers do work, unless you placed them yourself. I placed a marker on the Ranger base, and tried to follow that. Didn't do me any good. Placing your own markers on a map is all well and good, as long as you don't have to go through subway tunnels just to get to where your marker is set.
Agreed! Your own markers won't do shit.
I'm also in the camp that somehow enjoyed the tunnels. At that point of the game for me, it changed the mood and made things darker in every sense of the word. People had been warning me in-game of the dangers of downtown DC, and it delivered.
shunoshi
12-17-2008, 09:03 AM
The only thing I like about the metro tunnels is when you emerge from one. You really never know what you're going to find. I've run into big groups of raiders, supermutants, Brotherhood soldiers, traders, etc. It makes things interesting...and potentially deadly. :p
Telefrog
12-17-2008, 09:10 AM
I'm also in the camp that somehow enjoyed the tunnels. At that point of the game for me, it changed the mood and made things darker in every sense of the word. People had been warning me in-game of the dangers of downtown DC, and it delivered.
I also like the tunnels. I like that unlike Oblivion, there's actually a reason outside of random "looting" for me to go into the "dungeons" here. Going through them actually leads to other places.
Philonious
12-17-2008, 09:24 AM
Yeah, this is my one big gripe about the game. Traversing DC is a never-ending parade of metro tunnels. It's a bit of a pain.
Yeah... But fast-travel means that you only have to do each tunnel once, so it isn't THAT bad.
Anyone else think that the main plot was too short? I enjoyed exploring, and alternated between exploring and doing random quests. But once I settled into the main plot is was over almost as soon as I started it. There just wasn't enough of it.
headhunter228
12-17-2008, 09:32 AM
The only thing I like about the metro tunnels is when you emerge from one. You really never know what you're going to find. I've run into big groups of raiders, supermutants, Brotherhood soldiers, traders, etc. It makes things interesting...and potentially deadly. :p
My level 6 main battle tank came across a fucking Deathclaw when I got out of the tunnel that leads to the Meresti Trainyard. Let's just say I was thankful that the game saw fit to cripple both of it's legs and cut it's health down to half. Deathclaws are enough of a bitch at level 20, much less 6. The first time I got out of the tunnel, it was there waiting for me. It promptly tore me in half. Load my autosave, and I ran away. Then I turned, and it was only walking towards me. So, I stayed out of reach and shot it up. It scared the HELL out of me when I saw it. Definitely wasn't expecting a Deathclaw this early in the game.
Oh, and the main quest really was too short. Sure, there's a lot of crap to do, but not in the main quest. You actually have to do some exploring if you want to get to the meat of the game.
Smoof
12-17-2008, 09:35 AM
I finished the game tonight, after about 67 hours...I found the ending pretty underwhelming. The main quest was okay, but there were some other quests I thought were more fun or interesting.
Philonious
12-17-2008, 09:41 AM
Oh, and the main quest really was too short. Sure, there's a lot of crap to do, but not in the main quest. You actually have to do some exploring if you want to get to the meat of the game.
I did 90 hours of exploring and didn't get to everything... I was just annoyed that when I took a break from the freeform stuff to advance the plot a little I ended up finishing it. Also, I was stupid enough to start over after reaching the Citadel at level 17. they do a great job of building up the plot in the Intro, but it never comes close to delivering.
headhunter228
12-17-2008, 09:53 AM
I did 90 hours of exploring and didn't get to everything... I was just annoyed that when I took a break from the freeform stuff to advance the plot a little I ended up finishing it. Also, I was stupid enough to start over after reaching the Citadel at level 17. they do a great job of building up the plot in the Intro, but it never comes close to delivering.
I was about ready to shoot Fawkes when I asked if he/she/it would go into the chamber and enter the code and he/she/it? spouted some shit about my "destiny." Come on, if you can enter the fucking code without anyone dying of radiation poisoning, why the hell won't you DO IT?! Dumbshit. Either I can sacrifice myself, or Lyons can sacrifice herself, or YOU can go into the chamber, fix everything, and everyone lives? Which one sounds like the logical choice?
Oh, wait. I did shoot Fawkes.
Philonious
12-17-2008, 10:00 AM
Either I can sacrifice myself, or Lyons can sacrifice herself, or YOU can go into the chamber, fix everything, and everyone lives? Which one sounds like the logical choice?
Well Autumn survived the radiation after his exposure, your dad’s body disappears and, evidently, the Lone Wanderer is alive and well for the third DLC and is hunting down the remnants of the Enclave, so not only was it an incredibly contrived/unrealistic end to the character, it was also a completely meaningless one. I much preferred the ending of the previous Fallout games... Where you accomplish something instead of, you know, just dying.
TrackZero
12-17-2008, 10:59 AM
I finished the game tonight, after about 67 hours...I found the ending pretty underwhelming. The main quest was okay, but there were some other quests I thought were more fun or interesting.
It's all about the journey, not the destination. ;)
TrackZero
12-17-2008, 11:04 AM
I did by doing Those! first. If you do Moire's quests, you get thrust right into it pretty easily.
If by pretty easily you mean by doing the final chapter of her book (that you're meant to do way later in the game at a higher level)? Then yeah, sure....
jpublic
12-17-2008, 11:30 AM
I am such a pansy. I recently restarted the game and tried to play evil, and just couldn't do it. Really all the evil responses in dialogues aren't even, they're just assholeish.
carnage11
12-17-2008, 12:40 PM
If by pretty easily you mean by doing the final chapter of her book (that you're meant to do way later in the game at a higher level)? Then yeah, sure....
I finished Moira's Survival Guide around level 8. I went ahead and just did the whole thing at once. It was a little difficult at that level when I had to go and deal with the 'crab people'. Otherwise, it wasn't that bad.
I basically did all of the side quests before I did any of the main quest, so by the time I got to GNR I was like level 15 or something.
Jackel
12-17-2008, 01:13 PM
I finished Moira's Survival Guide around level 8. I went ahead and just did the whole thing at once. It was a little difficult at that level when I had to go and deal with the 'crab people'. Otherwise, it wasn't that bad.
I basically did all of the side quests before I did any of the main quest, so by the time I got to GNR I was like level 15 or something.
I did the same thing...except when I was facing the crabs I just ran around like a coward trying to find what I needed, with a horde of them chasing behind me.
Huh. I did the guide early as well. The crabs were simple, I just used two Stealth Boys.
Sazime
12-17-2008, 01:38 PM
If by pretty easily you mean by doing the final chapter of her book (that you're meant to do way later in the game at a higher level)? Then yeah, sure....
Not at all. If you start running around the Supermarket, sometime the kid will find you. In fact, on my last play through, he found me before I even got to the market.
Mr. Murphy
12-17-2008, 01:50 PM
Not at all. If you start running around the Supermarket, sometime the kid will find you. In fact, on my last play through, he found me before I even got to the market.
Yeah, this was one of the first things that happened to me when I was playing. I hit Megaton, got the quest to go north and look for that chick's family, and that little boy runs up to me. I was like level 3. Those ants suck at a low level, so I left the quest and came back to it later.
shunoshi
12-17-2008, 03:20 PM
Yeah, this was one of the first things that happened to me when I was playing. I hit Megaton, got the quest to go north and look for that chick's family, and that little boy runs up to me. I was like level 3. Those ants suck at a low level, so I left the quest and came back to it later.
This is exactly what happened to me. I cleared out those ants at levels 3-4. It was very difficult and I burned through a LOT of ammo and stimpacks. I should have just come back and did them later.
TrackZero
12-17-2008, 10:32 PM
Huh. I did the guide early as well. The crabs were simple, I just used two Stealth Boys.
Crabs were in chapter 1 (or 2, I can't remember), Rivet City's part is the final chapter of the book, where you find out about it's history by questioning it's citizens.
I finished Moira's Survival Guide around level 8. I went ahead and just did the whole thing at once. It was a little difficult at that level when I had to go and deal with the 'crab people'. Otherwise, it wasn't that bad.
I basically did all of the side quests before I did any of the main quest, so by the time I got to GNR I was like level 15 or something.
But if you're at level 8 or so (of a 20 level cap) and on the final chapter and haven't even done what's basically the beginning of the main quest, well, I can't help you. It's just open world design, you can't account for the players trying to skip ahead everywhere, you can try to lock people out of areas by whatever storyline reasoning possible, but there's limits before players would get miffed about that.
TrackZero
12-17-2008, 10:34 PM
Not at all. If you start running around the Supermarket, sometime the kid will find you. In fact, on my last play through, he found me before I even got to the market.
... We're talking about Rivet City and finding it before doing the GNR quest, nothing to do with the kid from Those! in Grayditch.
TrackZero
12-17-2008, 10:36 PM
This is exactly what happened to me. I cleared out those ants at levels 3-4. It was very difficult and I burned through a LOT of ammo and stimpacks. I should have just come back and did them later.
I did the same as well, pretty much ran out of ammo by the end of it. Going back now with another character at level 20, it's still funny how dangerous those ants are if you let them flamethrower you for more than a few seconds (even with top end armor, damage resistance and 450 hit points), but much more manageable.
Wackman3000
12-17-2008, 10:38 PM
I found myself doing the Survival Guide while wandering the wasteland. She would babble to me about the desired task, then I would set out and just journey. Whatever I came across, be it Raiders, mutants, new areas or phat lootz, I would just stop and explore.
It seemed more fun to just progressively do the Survival Guide while traveling around instead of just fast traveling back to Megaton after each successful task and rushing it's completion.
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