Fallout 3

[Widgetcraft]

Photobucket doesn't resize them as long as you keep the .jpg file small enough, I believe under 1MB. (Just make sure that option is selected when you upload)

Nice!

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[Gwinny]

The moment the GOTY-type PC edition comes out, I'm all over that greenery mod. That looks better than I thought it would from the mod's description. My very own Life After (Most) People!

[Widgetcraft]

Mothership Zeta is out, but it can be hard to get to. You can find it for the 360 on Fallout 3's page on the XBOX site, and queue it for download from there. For the PC, it is more difficult, but from the GFWL client do this: Go to All Items -> Alphabetical -> Page 3. It'll be in the second column, second row.

[Telefrog]

The only thing I don't like about the Greenworld mod is the way the leaves on the trees do that weird shifting or whatever to simulate blowing in the wind. It just looks odd.

[Widgetcraft]

Just finished the Mothership Zeta DLC. It was pretty fun, a bit repetitive though. Took something like three and a half, maybe four hours. The ending was cool. The problem is that there aren't that many new items, and there are too many aliens being thrown at you (gets old after a while). No significant puzzles.

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Got an awesome new house though!

[JayK47]

Is it worth $10? To me, only Broken Steel and Point Lookout were worth $10. The first 2 were more of a $5 purchase than $10.

[Widgetcraft]

Is it worth $10? To me, only Broken Steel and Point Lookout were worth $10. The first 2 were more of a $5 purchase than $10.

I would say not if that is how you view The Pitt and Operation Anchorage. It is quite a bit like Anchorage, in that it is a straight forward kill-fest, with a pretty cool reward at the end.

[Hawkzombie]

Just finished the Mothership Zeta DLC. It was pretty fun, a bit repetitive though. Took something like three and a half, maybe four hours. The ending was cool. The problem is that there aren't that many new items, and there are too many aliens being thrown at you (gets old after a while). No significant puzzles.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y253/perigon/SpaceWalk.jpg

Got an awesome new house though!

That becomes your house?!? SWEET...Might be worth the 800 points alone for that.

[JayK47]

I would say not if that is how you view The Pitt and Operation Anchorage. It is quite a bit like Anchorage, in that it is a straight forward kill-fest, with a pretty cool reward at the end.

I'm a sucker for Fallout. I will no doubt buy it. But damn, only 3 hours...

I hope this is the last of DLC then. They need to work on the sequel or a full expansion with 30+ hrs of gameplay.

[Widgetcraft]

I'm a sucker for Fallout. I will no doubt buy it. But damn, only 3 hours...

I hope this is the last of DLC then. They need to work on the sequel or a full expansion with 30+ hrs of gameplay.

It is the last DLC. They have Obsidian working on a sequel, New Vegas, which I have absolutely no faith in.

[Hawkzombie]

It is the last DLC. They have Obsidian working on a sequel, New Vegas, which I have absolutely no faith in.

Explain to me why this is bad. I honestly don't know why.

Also, just finished The Pitt, and I loved it. Gotta go back (I had no idea you could! Woo!) and find 100 Ingots though...only turned in like 60 or so...lot more searching to do to get all the neat equipment. The Ammo press is awesome as well...turned 1k of useless (for me at least) 10mm rounds into 5.56mm for the Chinese Rifle and Infiltrator.

Next up, Lookout point! And I haven't even started the main quest really! ha!

[Widgetcraft]

Explain to me why this is bad. I honestly don't know why.\

Because Obsidian have never once released a game of reasonable quality? Now they're working for friggin Bethesda, who releases notoriously buggy/unpolished products themselves. I mean, it is like a nightmare scenario. What they release could very well crash... the universe. Plus, it isn't even their only project in the works, so a company that can't get together one decent product is currently working on at least two games.

I don't know, I'm not sure how you could put a positive spin on it. You could argue that Obsidian is made up of former Black Isle employees, which is where Fallout started, but I got the impression that those Black Isle employees moved on to Troika and not Obsidian.

[Savok]

I will always stand by that KOTOR2 is an under appreciated classic. I'll admit my EU Star Wars is limited to comics but I've never seen the Force used in the way it was in that game, it was ingenious.

But yes it could crash the universe. Still, every Fallout ever made has been a bug riddled mess.

[JayK47]

It is the last DLC. They have Obsidian working on a sequel, New Vegas, which I have absolutely no faith in.

Yeah, but I thought they said that about Broken Steel. So you never know. I am glad they did more though, because I really enjoyed Point Lookout. This new one though is meh so far. Yeah, I grabbed it. A sucker like I said.

As for Obsidian, I am optimistic. But I will definitely wait for several good reviews;)

[Hawkzombie]

Because Obsidian have never once released a game of reasonable quality? Now they're working for friggin Bethesda, who releases notoriously buggy/unpolished products themselves. I mean, it is like a nightmare scenario. What they release could very well crash... the universe. Plus, it isn't even their only project in the works, so a company that can't get together one decent product is currently working on at least two games.

I don't know, I'm not sure how you could put a positive spin on it. You could argue that Obsidian is made up of former Black Isle employees, which is where Fallout started, but I got the impression that those Black Isle employees moved on to Troika and not Obsidian.

Ahh, ok. Well, I hope it isn't too bad...I was on the fence about THIS one because they made it (and Oblivion is terrible vanilla...FO3 has been wonderfully nice, with few crashes for myself). So, I'm hoping to be surprised.

[Banacek]

But yes it could crash the universe. Still, every Fallout ever made has been a bug riddled mess.

I'm glad you said that, but lets hope the NMA goons don't notice :)

[Narradisall]

I downloaded both Point Lookout and Mothership Zeta, still haven't played either yet.

[Narradisall]

I must add, while I'm glad they have given FO3 a ton of after game additions I was kind of hoping for a bigger expansion, maybe on an island, with some crazy god type person who speaks weird....

[jpublic]

So, I'm playing Mothership Zeta, and...


Anyone notice anything wrong with the way you look during the Spacewalk? Like, say, your space suit not covering YOUR HAND?! Seriously Bethesda, WTF?

[maharahaj]

I've been on a FO3 kick this weekend. Played at least 11 hours so far and...
-defeated the final 3 Super Mutant Behemoths
-located the last two weapon schematics I didn't have and forged all 7 custom weapon types
-located the final 13 bobbleheads I was missing (quite a few I had walked right by before)
-Started and completed quest "Those!"
-found at least 20 new locales
-hacked 22+ terminals (6 more to go until the achievement)
-went from level 23.5 to level 27.5
-increased my stimpack count from 197 to over 310
-found Dogmeat....he really makes the game easy as a majority of enemies focus on him first

[miah]

I played F3 a little bit at my friends house yesterday. He doesn't have many 360 games, so I created another character and had some fun. I can't wait until my games get here though so I can download the DLC for F3 and finish all of that, as well as my Neutral character.

[pseudopseudo]

I just pulled out Fallout 3 last night with the full intention of jumping back in... then thought long and hard about it. Last time I popped that into my 360, it didn't come out for months.

I suppose that's not a bad thing. I still have to finish Operation: Anchorage and start/finish Point Lookout, so I can feel justified purchasing Mothership Zeta. (Though, I know I will no matter what. Ha.)

[Sazime]

I played F3 a little bit at my friends house yesterday. He doesn't have many 360 games, so I created another character and had some fun. I can't wait until my games get here though so I can download the DLC for F3 and finish all of that, as well as my Neutral character.
I know I've said it multiple times (and people are probably getting tired of it), but I finished the game with one evil, one good and one neutral character. Once I get into the DLC (with a new toon) I'll probably break 300 hours on this game.

[jpublic]

I played Evil once. ONCE. Never *ever* again. I felt sick to my stomache nuking Megaton the one time I tried it.

The closest I can get is my Clint Eastwood Playstyle Project. Shooting people who screw me over in the back, THAT I can do.

[pseudopseudo]

I know I've said it multiple times (and people are probably getting tired of it), but I finished the game with one evil, one good and one neutral character. Once I get into the DLC (with a new toon) I'll probably break 300 hours on this game.

You're... amazing, dude. </Wayne's World>

Seriously though, I can't imagine sinking that much time into the Capitol Wastes, and I fucking love the game. :o

[maharahaj]

I sat down and blazed through The Pitt expansion yesterday. While I hated its questline and the environment (I've seen enough red and brown landscapes in games now to last me the rest of my life) holy hell is the reward of the ammo press awesome. I swapped the 9,000+ bullets of .32 .556 and .55 I was toting around into over 1,100 shotgun shells and over 800 sniper bullets. Now, I have zero worries about being inst-deadly from any distance. And if I get bored, I can still switch to the Gauss rifle with its 1,200+ shots and obliterate enemies into piles of dust.

[Hawkzombie]

I did the exact opposite with the press. I got the 100 Ingots, and the reward for 90 is my favorite weapon in the game. It's basically a sniper rifle that uses 5.56mm ammo. Not as powerful, but I've been killing super mutants with it in 5-10 shots MAX, and that's if I miss the initial head shot. It has rapid fire (outside of Vats) like an assault rifle, so it replaced by Chinese Assault Rifle.

It's basically an upgraded Infiltrator (The Penetrator) with a higher accuracy. And that seriously makes all the difference. Very few of the shots go wide, like they do with the basic weapon.

I just finished Point Lookout, and I really wish I would've gotten that weapon before I went in there, not after I was all done :p

[JayK47]

Mothership was a bit of a letdown for me. Especially since the last 2 DLC were so damn great. It was still ok, but I would go as far as to say it was the least entertaining of all DLC. The weapons were lame. No new armor that I could see. I also had a whole lot of pathing problems with the friendly AI. Several times I had to restart because they would get caught up on something and would not allow me to continue since you need the girl to open doors. In the end it was fairly pointless.

[Telefrog]

I had a particularly evil bug in Mothership Zeta. At a certain point, you must enable a transporter to get your AI buddies to teleport in to give you acces to the final areas of the game. Guess what glitched out? Yup. The teleporter activation button. Nothing I did could get it to work. Finally, I had to noclip through the door and get myself to the next area.

[Vigil80]

So is there a timeframe on a GOTY edition? I have Fallout 3 on PC already, but if it costs the same (or less!) to buy the GOTY as it would to buy all the DLC separately...

[Smoof]

I think I'm going to download all the DLC tonight on GFWL. Am I ok in doing that? I can't just go at my own pace, right? Is all the content worth the $50 I intend to spend?

[jpublic]

There's nothing wrong with getting it all at once, although personally, I think you may way to not get Mothership Zeta until *after* you ransack the crashed Alien Ship, because I think it removes it from the map.

The others - Pitt, Anchorage, Point Lookout, are all 'start when you wish', and Broken Steel comes in later.

[Hawkzombie]

Just in case...I did a little research on the fallout wikia.

You can still do Zeta before you ransack the location. It merely removes the crashed ship from the game, and replaces it with a teleport location to use the mothership as your house if you want. The Alien body, gun, and energy cells all remain.

[MalReynolds]

I bought this at launch and really didn't have any fun at all... found the whole game kinda stupid... But i gave it a 2nd try and im really enjoying it ...

Got it off a friend so now i cant wait for the Game of the year so i can get the DLC and all on PS3

[Sazime]

I must be crazy, because I'm now getting through the game for the 4th time (!!) with all the DLC downloaded. This time, I plugged my 360 controller into my PC and am surprised at how well it's working. Not to mention, knowing what stats to put where for my own play style is just awesome.

[Narradisall]

I finished PL and MZ on the weekend. I actually enjoyed MZ more as it was a a setting that I prefered. While the open questing in the swamp area was good and MZ was linear, I really enjoyed the space bits and I had enough pulse grenandes to deal with the robots.

Shame there was not much good loot, but I suppose having reached the end of the game and done everything there would have been little for me to kill...

I don't know if I'll hold onto it now I feel I've done everything and no more content is coming out, though I will say I enjoyed every second of it.

[MalReynolds]

i had played like 5-6 hours of the PS3 version as i had it from a friend and i got the 360 version for 15 bucks and i decided to get all the DLC sooo im playing though that now

[Dukefrukem]

Ok. I'm revisiting this thread because I never jumped in on the discussion when it was first released. Can I get a quick consensus on whether or not people enjoyed this game or not. And the reasons why/why not? Bullet form would be fine.

I don't understand the praise this game gets... people calling it the "best RPG" they've ever played.

[Gorvi]

I'm playing it now and enjoying it quite a bit. Best RPG ever? No, but it's very good. I enjoy the world and it's characters, exploring it is quite a bit of fun. Sure, things tend to look rather similar, like with Oblivion, but so far it's held my interest for solid 20 hours.

[Dukefrukem]

I'm playing it now and enjoying it quite a bit. Best RPG ever? No, but it's very good. I enjoy the world and it's characters, exploring it is quite a bit of fun. Sure, things tend to look rather similar, like with Oblivion, but so far it's held my interest for solid 20 hours.

It's a neat game and I'm having fun playing it... but I can name 3 dozen RPGs better than this.

[Gorvi]

It's a neat game and I'm having fun playing it... but I can name 3 dozen RPGs better than this.
36 better RPGs? Hmm, well, since you can include PC games in that, maybe, but I'd have trouble. I'm still somewhat early, but I'd put it in the top 15 even now, it'd have to really eff things up to get pushed down further, but it could easily go up.

What aren't you liking about it?

[Suave Peanut]

Personally, I adore the game and I have put close to 200 hours into something like four characters and still haven't seen close to everything. I play for the exploration and the story far, far more than I play for the combat, which honestly I can admit is not the greatest.

It's cool that you like three dozen RPGs better than this, clearly it didn't connect with you like it did some other people. Such is the nature of art.

[Savok]

Best RPG is a gross overstatement. It is quite good though... when it works.

[Ghostbear]

What this game did, was capture the feel of the Fallout Universe. Its dripping in lore and atmosphere.

[Banacek]

Ok. I'm revisiting this thread because I never jumped in on the discussion when it was first released. Can I get a quick consensus on whether or not people enjoyed this game or not. And the reasons why/why not? Bullet form would be fine.

I don't understand the praise this game gets... people calling it the "best RPG" they've ever played.

If you don't like it why would I waste time trying to convince you that it's good?

[Dukefrukem]

36 better RPGs? Hmm, well, since you can include PC games in that, maybe, but I'd have trouble. I'm still somewhat early, but I'd put it in the top 15 even now, it'd have to really eff things up to get pushed down further, but it could easily go up.

What aren't you liking about it?

I'm actually trying to figure it out myself. It's so easy for me to be sucked in fun or interesting games... A game doesn't NEED to be fun for me to enjoy it...(if that makes any sense) STALKER is a prime example. It's more annoying and tedious than fun, but the atmosphere, universe and gameplay makes it clearly interesting at the least. It makes me WANT to finish it.

Maybe it's because I played both STALKER games before playing Fallout 3? I've played both previous Fallout games and remember being completely SUCKED into them. 3 is doing nothing for me on the interesting scale. the graphics are pretty, but the characters and quests are dull.

37 is always the number I use when I'm exaggerating. So maybe there aren't 37, but off the top of my head.... (doing this to see if I can even do it)

*in no particular order* *and no particular sub genre (FPS, 3rd, point)*

Fallout
Fallout 2
Mass Effect
KotoR
KotoR 2
Diablo
Diablo 2
Titan Quest
Titan Quest expansion
System Shock 2
Xenogears
FF7
FF8
FF9
FFX
Fuck even FF12!!
FF2
FF5
WoW (it counts right?)
LotRO
STALKER
Clear Sky
the Witcher
Chrono Trigger
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Star Ocean 2
Deus Ex
Deus Ex 2
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights 2


okay there's 30.... best i could do

[Dukefrukem]

If you don't like it why would I waste time trying to convince you that it's good?

I'm trying to figure out if maybe all the liking of the game is because of the lack of people playing previous RPGs... If someone as only played a handful of the games I've listed... I can see them thinking it's the best RPG ever... I don't even consider myself a big RPGer.

[carnage11]

What this game did, was capture the feel of the Fallout Universe. Its dripping in lore and atmosphere.

Yes, basically the reason it got such praise, wasn't because it was "Best RPG EVER!!" but because it was pretty much what every Fallout fan wanted. Which, you gotta give Bethesda props, because that's difficult to do. Take a much revered game from 20 some years ago and make a sequel that pleases the majority of the fans? Most fail at this.

[carnage11]

I'm actually trying to figure it out myself. It's so easy for me to be sucked in fun or interesting games... A game doesn't NEED to be fun for me to enjoy it...(if that makes any sense) STALKER is a prime example. It's more annoying and tedious than fun, but the atmosphere, universe and gameplay makes it clearly interesting at the least. It makes me WANT to finish it.

Maybe it's because I played both STALKER games before playing Fallout 3? I've played both previous Fallout games and remember being completely SUCKED into them. 3 is doing nothing for me on the interesting scale. the graphics are pretty, but the characters and quests are dull.

37 is always the number I use when I'm exaggerating. So maybe there aren't 37, but off the top of my head.... (doing this to see if I can even do it)

*in no particular order* *and no particular sub genre (FPS, 3rd, point)*

Fallout
Fallout 2
Mass Effect
KotoR
KotoR 2
Diablo
Diablo 2
Titan Quest
Titan Quest expansion
System Shock 2
Xenogears
FF7
FF8
FF9
FFX
Fuck even FF12!!
FF2
FF5
WoW (it counts right?)
LotRO
STALKER
Clear Sky
the Witcher
Chrono Trigger
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Star Ocean 2
Deus Ex
Deus Ex 2
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights 2


okay there's 30.... best i could do

Your list fails. No Ocarina of Time? What the fuck is wrong with you man, should I slap you now? Come on...:p

Not sure how you can say the missions are dull, you probably aren't that far into the game yet, give it a chance, and do the side quests because they are some of the most fun. Especially the Vault (I forget which exactly) with the clones....haha.;)

[Gorvi]

Duke, how far are you? I don't know, I'm really enjoying it, and I have no past Fallout experience, though now that I've played F3, I'll be going back.

[Bone]

I thought it was a fun, immersive, and clever RPG that captured Fallout and also represented the state of the art at the time of its release. It's a really tall order! Best RPG, no way. But a fun diversion that sucked hours of my attention from other things, definitely.

[Dukefrukem]

Duke, how far are you? I don't know, I'm really enjoying it, and I have no past Fallout experience, though now that I've played F3, I'll be going back.

I'm in the sewers getting my ass handed to me by giant monsters. That was on PS3. But I restarted on PC because the graphics suck on PS3.

[Dukefrukem]

Your list fails. No Ocarina of Time? What the fuck is wrong with you man, should I slap you now? Come on...:p

Not sure how you can say the missions are dull, you probably aren't that far into the game yet, give it a chance, and do the side quests because they are some of the most fun. Especially the Vault (I forget which exactly) with the clones....haha.;)

Never played it. :-\

[carnage11]

Never played it. :-\

/me SLAPS THE SHIT OUT OF DUKEFRUKEM

::SLAP!!::



:mad:

[Suave Peanut]

Yeah, if you've never played The Greatest Game of All Time™ then your opinion is kind of invalid.

[carnage11]

I suggest you leave CoG. And don't come back until you've played OoT. You call yourself a gamer?! Shame on you.

[Ghostbear]

To be fair, Ocarina of Time is not an RPG.

[Suave Peanut]

To be fair, Ocarina of Time is not an RPG.
To be fair, shut the fuck up.

[carnage11]

To be fair, Ocarina of Time is not an RPG.


But he put The Wind Waker on his list. I'm just thinking......he has no idea. I'm in awe.....

[J Arcane]

Eh. Ocarina of Time is just Link to the Past with an added gimmick, and all the gorgeous sprite art replaced by bland, primitive 3d.

It is perhaps the key start point for Nintendo's ever escalating reliance on such gimmicks. I'm surprised it didn't come with an Ocarina controller.

[carnage11]

Eh. Ocarina of Time is just Link to the Past with an added gimmick, and all the gorgeous sprite art replaced by bland, primitive 3d.

It is perhaps the key start point for Nintendo's ever escalating reliance on such gimmicks. I'm surprised it didn't come with an Ocarina controller.

It was Zelda in 3d. Bland, primitive 3d? I think you've become spoiled over the years. At the time, it was some of the most impressive graphics on the N64. It's been a long time, I know. But those graphics were amazing when it first came out.

Oh and no, no Ocarina conrtoller, but I did have the gold zelda controller. :D

[Bone]

It was Zelda in 3d. Bland, primitive 3d? I think you've become spoiled over the years. At the time, it was some of the most impressive graphics on the N64. It's been a long time, I know. But those graphics were amazing when it first came out.

Oh and no, no Ocarina conrtoller, but I did have the gold zelda controller. :DI too had the gold Zelda controller! I still think the N64 had the best calibration of analog sticks since. Shame they broke so often.

And I guess I'm a sucker, but I would die for an Ocarina controller that made me play the actual notes to proceed further.

[cawblen]

I'm actually trying to figure it out myself. It's so easy for me to be sucked in fun or interesting games... A game doesn't NEED to be fun for me to enjoy it...(if that makes any sense) STALKER is a prime example. It's more annoying and tedious than fun, but the atmosphere, universe and gameplay makes it clearly interesting at the least. It makes me WANT to finish it.

Maybe it's because I played both STALKER games before playing Fallout 3? I've played both previous Fallout games and remember being completely SUCKED into them. 3 is doing nothing for me on the interesting scale. the graphics are pretty, but the characters and quests are dull.

37 is always the number I use when I'm exaggerating. So maybe there aren't 37, but off the top of my head.... (doing this to see if I can even do it)

*in no particular order* *and no particular sub genre (FPS, 3rd, point)*

Fallout
Fallout 2
Mass Effect
KotoR
KotoR 2
Diablo
Diablo 2
Titan Quest
Titan Quest expansion
System Shock 2
Xenogears
FF7
FF8
FF9
FFX
Fuck even FF12!!
FF2
FF5
WoW (it counts right?)
LotRO
STALKER
Clear Sky
the Witcher
Chrono Trigger
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Star Ocean 2
Deus Ex
Deus Ex 2
Neverwinter Nights
Neverwinter Nights 2


okay there's 30.... best i could do

you left off VAGRANT STORY :mad:

[Dukefrukem]

Never owned an N64 system.

Although I did win a Goldeneye tournament and $500.

[Dukefrukem]

you left off VAGRANT STORY :mad:

Add it to the list... that's 31. Remember, this is off the top of my head. Give me some credit mofos..

[J Arcane]

It was Zelda in 3d. Bland, primitive 3d? I think you've become spoiled over the years. At the time, it was some of the most impressive graphics on the N64. It's been a long time, I know. But those graphics were amazing when it first came out.

Oh and no, no Ocarina conrtoller, but I did have the gold zelda controller. :D
No, they really weren't that impressive. It was released the same year as a number of much better looking games, like Turok 2 and Wipeout 64.

Graphically, even the year of it's launch, OoT was pretty pathetic. There are moments of great presentation, the Master Sword room is a personal favorite, but over all, it wasn't exactly shit hot compared to it's contemporaries.

And of course, when you throw in PC comparisons, this being the release year of Unreal, Half-Life AND Thief, it looks positively archaic. ;)

[Gorvi]

I'm in the sewers getting my ass handed to me by giant monsters. That was on PS3. But I restarted on PC because the graphics suck on PS3.
Way to go, Mr. Vague! ;) What character level then? What major places have you been?

[Bone]

Hey guys, I'm playing Modern Warfare 2 and am stuck in that room with the Russians firing at me.

[Purple Santa]

Personally, I adore the game and I have put close to 200 hours into something like four characters and still haven't seen close to everything. I play for the exploration and the story far, far more than I play for the combat, which honestly I can admit is not the greatest.

It's cool that you like three dozen RPGs better than this, clearly it didn't connect with you like it did some other people. Such is the nature of art.
You sir have a career in diplomacy if you so see the desire :cool:
Way to go, Mr. Vague! ;) What character level then? What major places have you been?

Maybe he doesn't like fire breathing ants either ;)

[jpublic]

I've played the game through to death twice, and I loved every second of it each time.

Fantastic game.

[Dukefrukem]

Way to go, Mr. Vague! ;) What character level then? What major places have you been?

Galaxy News Radio... helped some dudes in cool suits fight a some huge giant... then i fell off a wall on the other side of the building and couldn't find my way back to the front... so i entered the sewers....

[Dukefrukem]

Hey guys, I'm playing Modern Warfare 2 and am stuck in that room with the Russians firing at me.

hardy harr


Maybe he doesn't like fire breathing ants either ;)

I'm used to them in It Came From the Desert

[Esquilax1138]

Just got the GOTY edition for the PC and am about to jump in. Anything out of the ordinary I need to know before I get too far, like about how the leveling works? Is it like Oblivion where leveling was a pain in making sure you had enough secondary skill points raised before you leveled up to get the most out of it? Or can I just play it and not worry as much?

[Gorvi]

Galaxy News Radio... helped some dudes in cool suits fight a some huge giant... then i fell off a wall on the other side of the building and couldn't find my way back to the front... so i entered the sewers....
Ok, so you're an ok way in, not too far, but enough to get a good feel for the game. I don't know what to tell you, then, it really may just not be for you.
Just got the GOTY edition for the PC and am about to jump in. Anything out of the ordinary I need to know before I get too far, like about how the leveling works? Is it like Oblivion where leveling was a pain in making sure you had enough secondary skill points raised before you leveled up to get the most out of it? Or can I just play it and not worry as much?
Play it and don't worry about it, it's a straight xp system. You get xp for killing enemies, discovering new areas, completing quests, picking locks, hacking computers, etc..... It's not as easy to screw yourself as it was in Oblivion.

[Slack3r78]

I'm in the sewers getting my ass handed to me by giant monsters. That was on PS3. But I restarted on PC because the graphics suck on PS3.
I could see not enjoying it at that point. The metro tunnels are by far the worst part of the game. Once you slog through them once and can fast travel past them, it's much better. Not best game ever, but better than a lot of the games on your list.

Also, I completely don't understand the love for the Witcher. I bought it when it was on sale on Steam on the basis of the positive reviews it got here and... wtf. Generic click-click-slash combat combined with relatively poor writing... meh. I got maybe 5 hours into it before stopping, so I'd hope it would start to get good by then.

[Gorvi]

I could see not enjoying it at that point. The metro tunnels are by far the worst part of the game. Once you slog through them once and can fast travel past them, it's much better. Not best game ever, but better than a lot of the games on your list.
The subway wasn't that bad, but I will say, the map that you can pull up for that area absolutely blows.

[Dukefrukem]

I could see not enjoying it at that point. The metro tunnels are by far the worst part of the game. Once you slog through them once and can fast travel past them, it's much better. Not best game ever, but better than a lot of the games on your list.


Gorvi says I'm far enough into it, but you mention it's the worst part of the game. So I'm going to continue playing with a positive mindset and see if i can fall into this game.

[Gorvi]

Gorvi says I'm far enough into it, but you mention it's the worst part of the game. So I'm going to continue playing with a positive mindset and see if i can fall into this game.
Well, it's far enough that you've got a good feel for how the game plays, the quest structure, how you progress, that kind of thing. I'm really not that much further than you, I'm no the main quest after you do what you need to for Galaxy Radio, so I really can't speak to the content you've got ahead of you. I did like the Museum of Technology a lot, though.

[carnage11]

I will agree the sewers sucked bad. I hated that part of the game. Once you start going further to the west of the map stuff starts getting more interesting. Trust me. I'll tell you that a lot of the really great stuff you can completely miss because it's not part of the main quest or even any quest for that matter. There's one point where you reach a huge radio tower and if you make your way up to the top you can read messages talking about a satellite in space with nukes on it. At the top you get to release the nukes and watch the "fireworks". Not even part of a quest, just something that was really fun and memorable.

[J Arcane]

The city is definitely my least favorite part of Fallout 3. It's not nearly as open, everything's cordoned off hap hazardly and so you're forced to try and navigate the maze of tunnels and shortcuts and things just to get to where you're going, and exploration isn't nearly as much fun (thought it can be more surprising, I still run into shit occasionally I never saw on my first run through).

Out in the wasteland I think though, is where the game really shines, because you've got a lot more freedom of approach, and you get to spend more time exploring, there's more random encounters and fun little bits to find.

[Suave Peanut]

Also: if you're just playing the main quest, you're playing the game wrong.

[Dukefrukem]

Good news all around. :) I shall continue my quest.... after I get tired of L4D2

[Bone]

Yeah, a lot of the best stuff I found was random conversations and quests that spring from them in the Wasteland.

[jpublic]

Best part of the game - right after you get out of a certain area in the top left corner of the map, stop worrying about the main plot, and scour the whole freaking map. You'll have a few thousand rounds of whatever ammo you want, a few hundred stimpacks, and you'll be laughing.

Also, do the Operation Anchorage DLC early, it's worth it.4

[Slack3r78]

The subway wasn't that bad, but I will say, the map that you can pull up for that area absolutely blows.

That's the problem with it. There are a lot of areas in the game the can only be reached by cutting through random metro tunnels. The problem is that you have no way of knowing where any given tunnel is going to lead you, and the tunnels are all painfully alike, with very little to differentiate one from the next.

If there were only a few of them, it wouldn't be so bad, but there are literally a couple of dozen in the game, and they're your only option for discovering some content. Fighting your way through generic ghoul infested tunnel #23 gets boring after a while. I mean, I've got like 150 hours in the game and I still haven't fought through all of them simply because it got tiresome.

[BlackPete]

Agreed with what's said about the tunnels. I love Fallout 3 and completely played it to death (so far it's still the only game I've gotten a full 1000/1000 achievement points on), and I basically try to skip the tunnels whenever I can.

It's uber annoying that you can't tell where the tunnels link up to, and even after going through them multiple times, I still forget where they're supposed to go.

The rest of the game truly shines though. It's also the only game I was able to recreate the Red Wedding... ;)

Felt kinda bad about it in the end though, so I reloaded.

[BlackPete]

Duke - Each and everyone of those RPGs you listed have a shit part or two in them. Yes, including Planescape: Torment. ;)

The tunnels are definitely Fallout 3's shit part.

The city was super disorienting when exploring it for the first time and I was confused about where I was supposed to go at first, but by the end of the game (and I was basically God On Earth) I was exploring every inch of the city and finding new surprises. In the end, the city gets a thumbs-up from me thanks to the power of hindsight.

[Purple Santa]

Galaxy News Radio... helped some dudes in cool suits fight a some huge giant... then i fell off a wall on the other side of the building and couldn't find my way back to the front... so i entered the sewers....

If you hate the sewers...and they can get annoying...there is a side quest that will help with matters in the sewers. I won't bother spoiling the text because I don't want to ruin it for you or Gorvi.

[Slack3r78]

Duke - Each and everyone of those RPGs you listed have a shit part or two in them. Yes, including Planescape: Torment. ;)
Actually, he failed to list PS:T. :p

The problem with PS:T is that it's shit part is the very beginning of the game. I actually started like my seriously 7th or 8th attempt at the game earlier this week, and it's the first time I've successfully made it past the opening couple of hours without losing patience with it. I may actually finish it this time! :p

[BlackPete]

Right, I forgot about that whole "Escape the Asylum" part of that game. I can see how that'd be totally misleading, and leads you to think it's just another "blow 'em all up" style of RPG before you got to the real meat of the game with actual moral dilemmas.

Plus it's one of the few games I've played where the freaking rats are true badasses.

[evilgoodwin]

On my last playthrough, I skipped the metro tunnels after the GNR quest because the first thing I did after leaving the vault was haul ass to Rivet City for the Intelligence Bobblehead. There are some dangerous things on the way there, though, so be careful.

Also, taking breaks from the main quest is recommended. Spent a few sessions seeking every bobblehead I could get to that wasn't story-related and it was awesome. Taught me to just go off and explore.

...still need to finish my last playthrough, actually. Well, it's "finished" but I haven't done the Broken Steel stuff yet, or bought any other DLC. Need to finish off those achievements...

[Clark]

I feel SO much better about the game after reading that others feel the way I do about the sewers! I actually questioned if my gaming days were over for good because of those damn things!

Keck and I would IM each other about the greatness that is Fallout 3 on a daily basis. We would share stories of it's wonder and out general man love for the game.

Then I got stuck in the sewers. For a long time. I stopped playing and haven't picked it up since. I'm MAYBE 1/2 way through the main quest.

The sewers are terrible. The pathing in the cities blows as well. For such a "sandbox" game it's straight rails in many parts. I can't climb over that pile of rubble to continue forward? Really?

I'm tempted to try again. It's just that my gaming time is so limited that I don't want to waste it walking around the sewers being pissed off.

[Banacek]

I guess I'm alone in liking the sewers. There were map kiosks all over them, so I never had a hard time figuring out where to go. They really gave a sense of dread. You knew going in that you might come across something that was going to kick your ass.

[evilgoodwin]

I guess I'm alone in liking the sewers. There were map kiosks all over them, so I never had a hard time figuring out where to go. They really gave a sense of dread. You knew going in that you might come across something that was going to kick your ass.

It's not like I minded them, but they got boring on additional playthroughs.

Oh, something that impressed me when I looked for the bobbleheads, there's one in Arlington National Cemetary. Nice little area considering no quests actively deal with it, as far as I know.

[Purple Santa]

The sewers are terrible. The pathing in the cities blows as well. For such a "sandbox" game it's straight rails in many parts. I can't climb over that pile of rubble to continue forward? Really?

I'm tempted to try again. It's just that my gaming time is so limited that I don't want to waste it walking around the sewers being pissed off.
I'll chime in with the disbelief about the rubble. I hated the way I was forced to go around or through sewers. But I figured it was a very clever way to make boundaries where I could go and couldn't go...and all the rubble made sense being around since it was after the apocalypse . What made it ok for me was fighting so many enemies, I just kept leveling up. Same with the sewers...a good source of leveling up...but I agree with someone finding it annoying. I never complained because I didn't think anyone else would think there was anything wrong with the giant piles of rubble you couldn't climb :o
I guess I'm alone in liking the sewers. There were map kiosks all over them, so I never had a hard time figuring out where to go. They really gave a sense of dread. You knew going in that you might come across something that was going to kick your ass.
The only sense of dread I felt in the sewers was from getting lost all the time. Admittedly that's an issue of me...I just seem to get lost in games. My sense of direction is just awful. A sense of dread near the GNR building...super mutants and other types of mutants...when I first encountered them...yes, plenty of dread. Sewers...the maps sucked...now that is dread :p

[TheKeck]

I feel SO much better about the game after reading that others feel the way I do about the sewers! I actually questioned if my gaming days were over for good because of those damn things!

Keck and I would IM each other about the greatness that is Fallout 3 on a daily basis. We would share stories of it's wonder and out general man love for the game.

Then I got stuck in the sewers. For a long time. I stopped playing and haven't picked it up since. I'm MAYBE 1/2 way through the main quest.

The sewers are terrible. The pathing in the cities blows as well. For such a "sandbox" game it's straight rails in many parts. I can't climb over that pile of rubble to continue forward? Really?

I'm tempted to try again. It's just that my gaming time is so limited that I don't want to waste it walking around the sewers being pissed off.
Man up nancy boy. :p

Also, all these references everyone is making to the "sewers" are referring to the subway tunnels, right?

[Hawkzombie]

I really need to finish this game. I got stuck on side quests and DLC that I didn't even finish the main quest.

Which reminds me, I need to get the Mothership one too :p

[axion]

Yeah I'm gonna jump back in once I get the GOTY edition with all the DLC.

[Wasson_]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/439/screenshot0u.png
Apparently there is an intrinsic field subtractor somewhere in the capitol wasteland. god help us all.

sheesh i remember I took this screen cap so long ago...lol. Either way. Fallout 3 is...just a joy to play for hours and hours just adventuring about and getting into some intense battles. The game REALLY benefits from a few good mods added to it, such as the Repair mod that lets you use junk to make scrap metal, and then use the scrap metal to fix most of your armor / weapons. It really makes the experiance more streamlined and enjoyable IMO, espescially later in the game where you encounter Deathclaws and those fucking Albino Scorpians (from DLC) that can rip your armor apart in no time.


wtf happened to the picture?...

[Hawkzombie]

I've been debating picking up GOTY ed. for the PC. I love it for the 360, but addons really make the game enjoyable. I was the same way with Oblivion...sad thing is one day I realized I had no desire to do the MAIN quest after spending like 80 hrs going across the world and uninstalled it...lmao.

[TheKeck]

It really makes the experiance more streamlined and enjoyable IMO, espescially later in the game where you encounter Deathclaws and that can rip your armor apart in no time.
Interesting fact that I read and think is true: You receive no benefit from armor against Deathclaw attacks, so if you are fighting them you might as well fight naked and avoid the repair costs. :p

[Jackel]

Interesting fact that I read and think is true: You receive no benefit from armor against Deathclaw attacks, so if you are fighting them you might as well fight naked and avoid the repair costs. :p

Tis why the Deathclaw Gauntlet is so deadly a weapon.

[Sazime]

For those of you who don't like the sewers, suck it up. You have a map. They're not that bad once you get how they're generally lain out.

[carnage11]

For those of you who don't like the sewers, suck it up. You have a map. They're not that bad once you get how they're generally lain out.

No, while I was trying to find the cemetery, I had the large fold out map that came with the strategy guide which explains where each tunnel leads and I still had trouble finding it. The map in the subway tunnels sucks bad.

[Bone]

The maps fail to document where you have to go up and down levels, making them close to useless IMO.

[axion]

Well I beat the game when it came out and honestly can't remember any of this sewer/subway stuff so I guess I didn't mind it too much. Was that where you helped the guy kill some monster he created and he gave you a unique upgrade or something? If so then that's all I can remember about it.

[carnage11]

The maps fail to document where you have to go up and down levels, making them close to useless IMO.

It was like the map included all levels so it was difficult to tell which level you needed to be on, and some of the tunnels were several floors. The maps in the Vaults were the same way.

The biggest problem I had was knowing which tunnel lead to which area. Especially, when you had to take several different tunnels just to get to a specific area. The map that came with my strategy guide was useless too because it label areas UA1 or UB3 or whatever, based on a grid and the map was like half the size of my bed. I guess that's the result of having such a huge universe to explore. In no way am I saying the game isn't any thing but awesome, but the metro tunnels are the worst part of the game.

[evilgoodwin]

Honestly, I thought the little tracking arrow near the compass in the lower part of the screen did fine in the sewers. Never got lost, just felt it took longer to get to Rivet City than it would have if I'd just walked the coast line. But I'm intrigued with the idea of exploring the city. Might have to dive in and look around a bit.

...oh, and finish my DLC for it.

[Purple Santa]

Honestly, I thought the little tracking arrow near the compass in the lower part of the screen did fine in the sewers. Never got lost, just felt it took longer to get to Rivet City than it would have if I'd just walked the coast line. But I'm intrigued with the idea of exploring the city. Might have to dive in and look around a bit.

...oh, and finish my DLC for it.

I remember trying to swim into Rivet City. It finally dawned on me how to actually just...walk into the city...

All the FO3 memories has me wanting to add another game to the winter break game marathon...

[frederec]

I remember trying to swim into Rivet City. It finally dawned on me how to actually just...walk into the city...

All the FO3 memories has me wanting to add another game to the winter break game marathon...

I remember trying to get into the city. Went to the platform, didn't see a way in. Swam around the whole thing looking for a way in. Finally went to the platform again, after spending waaay too much time looking for some way in, and my wife said, "Isn't that an intercom right there?"

I just about wanted to kill myself.

[Lint of Death]

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[jpublic]

Heh. That reminded me of my last F3 playthrough as part of my Clint Eastwood Playstyle Project.

So many people I headshotted with my Blackhawk after I found out they screwed me.

[Banacek]

Ok, so I just got the GOTY edition. Which mods should I get? I got the Fallout Mod Manager and I'm downloading the More Where That Came From music pack. What is the best repair mod and HD mod?

EDIT: Marts Mutant Mod looks good too.

[Xydarc]

I'm late to the party, but I got the Fallout 3 GOTY edition for PS3 during Best Buy's sale ($40). I just escaped the Vault, but I'm missing a trophy: I couldn't take the G.O.A.T. I talked to the teacher, sat down in an empty desk and...nothing. I re-loaded a save 3 times, before finally letting the teacher just show me the results. Any other PS3 owners run into this?

Can't wait to start exploring the capitol wasteland.

[frederec]

I'm late to the party, but I got the Fallout 3 GOTY edition for PS3 during Best Buy's sale ($40). I just escaped the Vault, but I'm missing a trophy: I couldn't take the G.O.A.T. I talked to the teacher, sat down in an empty desk and...nothing. I re-loaded a save 3 times, before finally letting the teacher just show me the results. Any other PS3 owners run into this?

Can't wait to start exploring the capitol wasteland.

I had something like that. But it seemed to just stall instead of letting me take the G.O.A.T. It either wouldn't go past that, or I didn't wait a long enough time to skip it. When I reloaded, it let me take it fine. I've started a few new games on the PS3, and I've only run into this once. So it sounds like you've had a run of bad luck on that one.

[Xydarc]

That save must be borked, because I cannot get the game to let me take the G.O.A.T. Ah well, 2nd playthrough I guess.

[Rock Bandit]

New Year's Deal on Live today is all Fallout 3 packs are 50% off.

[Jackel]

New Year's Deal on Live today is all Fallout 3 packs are 50% off.

Bugger, that deal doesn't apply to the PC version!

[Xydarc]

Does choosing a Theme for your Megaton house do anything for you?

[carnage11]

Does choosing a Theme for your Megaton house do anything for you?

Yes each theme has different things that can be found in the house. I don't remember which have what, but I believe one of them even has a bobblehead.

[Ghostbear]

Yes each theme has different things that can be found in the house. I don't remember which have what, but I believe one of them even has a bobblehead.

You find all the Bobbleheads out in the world. Not in a theme.

[carnage11]

You find all the Bobbleheads out in the world. Not in a theme.

Yeah, no it's a skill book you get from the themes not a bobblehead. My mistake.

[SonofSeth]

I decided to get Fallout 3 and I need help with something. I can get original Fallout 3 for 12 euro and I can get GOTY edition for 32.

So let me ask you this, is the additional content worth almost triple the price? Also, I'll be getting it for PS3 if it males any difference.

[frederec]

I decided to get Fallout 3 and I need help with something. I can get original Fallout 3 for 12 euro and I can get GOTY edition for 32.

So let me ask you this, is the additional content worth almost triple the price? Also, I'll be getting it for PS3 if it males any difference.

That's a pretty big jump, but I'd suggest springing for the GOTY. Each of the expansions have interesting and useful things in them, and you'd probably start itching for them if you didn't get them.

[Gorvi]

I started playing again last night, even with my lost progress of about 12 hours I was sucked right back in. When I get home I'll be finishing up Those! then probably doing some main story stuff.

I think I may have asked this before, but I'm having a forgetful moment, so I'll ask again: Broken Steel aside, is there any minimum level that you should be before doing the DLC content? I've complete Anchorage so far, but I've been eyeing the others, especially Mothership Zeta. Is there any reason to save any of those for later?

[Xydarc]

I think I'm going for the Love Machine Theme (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Love_Machine_Theme). Plus, I'd also like to know the answer to Gorvi's question.

[frederec]

I started playing again last night, even with my lost progress of about 12 hours I was sucked right back in. When I get home I'll be finishing up Those! then probably doing some main story stuff.

I think I may have asked this before, but I'm having a forgetful moment, so I'll ask again: Broken Steel aside, is there any minimum level that you should be before doing the DLC content? I've complete Anchorage so far, but I've been eyeing the others, especially Mothership Zeta. Is there any reason to save any of those for later?

I like to do Anchorage as soon as possible, but you've already done that. Point Lookout has some NASTY enemies, the kind that suck up tons of ammo and hurt like crazy if they connect, so I'd put that off.

I don't remember The Pitt or Mothership Zeta having things quite that annoying, but I could be wrong. I do love going through Zeta since you come out with a fair amount of alien epoxy, that stuff that can repair weapons. Very nice for weapons that you are otherwise unable to repair very far. People like to talk about The Pitt and its ammo conversion abilities, but by the time I got through it, the ammo it converted wasn't really the kind I was after.

[Ghostbear]

You don't really need to be a specific level to do the DLC., however, keep in mind that Point Lookout is tough. Unless they patched it out, many of the enemies do non-resistible damage.

[Gorvi]

That's all good to know. Does any of the other DLC lock you in the way Anchorage does, so that you can't do anything else until you finish? I'm assuming that Zeta does, but do the others?

[Ghostbear]

Zeta, Point Lookout, the Pitt all lock you in as well. Well sorta, you can buy a new boat ticket in Point Lookout, but the cost is so prohibitive that you are basically locked in.

[MagGnome]

I finally started playing this game, and it's gorgeous! It is also a lot of fun, but unfortunately it does not play nice with Windows 7. It often locks up right at start up, and I just had it freeze on me in Megaton, losing me at least 30 minutes of progress.

I checked the Steam forums and apparently a lot of people are having these issues. I tweaked the ini file, so hopefully that will do the trick.

[Xydarc]

How do I get into the Research Lab room in the Cargo Hold on Mothership Zeta? It says it's opened in another location, but I can't find the switch.

[diablopath]

I finally started playing this game, and it's gorgeous! It is also a lot of fun, but unfortunately it does not play nice with Windows 7. It often locks up right at start up, and I just had it freeze on me in Megaton, losing me at least 30 minutes of progress.

I checked the Steam forums and apparently a lot of people are having these issues. I tweaked the ini file, so hopefully that will do the trick.

Let me know if it does. I've been considering getting it for PC, but since I run Win7, this post obviously makes me nervous.

I previously owned it for PS3. I like the game and the environment...but it just felt off on the PS3. I can't explain it.

[MagGnome]

Let me know if it does. I've been considering getting it for PC, but since I run Win7, this post obviously makes me nervous.

I previously owned it for PS3. I like the game and the environment...but it just felt off on the PS3. I can't explain it.

Well, it isn't a perfect fix, but it's definitely a big improvement.

The game's launcher no longer crashes, and the game itself doesn't lock up nearly as often. It still locks up on occasion, but it's much less frequent than it was before. It's very playable once you put in that INI tweak. I've only had two freezes since changing the file, whereas before the game would often crash right after it started. I've lost at most 10 minutes of progress now, which is a huge improvement.

The game doesn't just have problems with Windows 7, but multi-core machines as well. The ini tweak forces the game to run on only two cores, which stops most of the problems.

Anyway, here are the fixes that I implemented:

-Right click on the Steam.exe file and set it to run as Administrator (under the Compatibility tab)

-Find the Fallout 3 ini file, which is usually located in Libraries-Documents-My Games-Fallout3 and add the following line under the General Section:

iNumHWThreads=2

I made sure to keep a blank space between the General Section and the one after it, but I'm not sure if that's necessary or not.

I hope that helps!

[J Arcane]

Word up bitches, I bring this thread to life to announce that I've been playing this again, and it fucking rules.

I didn't realize how much scarier this game gets when you aren't a stealth guy. Last night's underground crawls got downright nerve wracking at times.

[tacitus]

It does rule - just finished most everything including the DLC. Most of the DLC was enjoyable; but did not care for zeta, but I don't know why.

[jpublic]

Stealth is what people use when they don't have enough Gun.

[Banacek]

Word up bitches, I bring this thread to life to announce that I've been playing this again, and it fucking rules.

I didn't realize how much scarier this game gets when you aren't a stealth guy. Last night's underground crawls got downright nerve wracking at times.

Stealth is no way to play this game. You have to get up and personal with the ghouls and mutants. Go toe to toe with a Deathclaw, and then you have truly experienced this game.

[TheEvilNarwhale]

I got all the dlc when it was on sale and they are super buggy to the point that I don't want to play anymore. I died in part of zeta shortly after I had leveled up and when I restarted I went up to the next level but none of my stat changes or perk stayed. And do not even get me started with crap that broken in the Pitt. Falling through things you can walk on constantly and I got a bug where I can't talk to the guy you give ingots to so I am stuck lugging around 40 lbs of ingots which I can't do anything with.

[menage]

I got all the dlc when it was on sale and they are super buggy to the point that I don't want to play anymore. I died in part of zeta shortly after I had leveled up and when I restarted I went up to the next level but none of my stat changes or perk stayed. And do not even get me started with crap that broken in the Pitt. Falling through things you can walk on constantly and I got a bug where I can't talk to the guy you give ingots to so I am stuck lugging around 40 lbs of ingots which I can't do anything with.


PC? Cause I haven't had many problems at all on 360. Sure there' some bugs, which game this size hasn't, but I'd rather pay a buggy game like this than a polished turd.

[TrackZero]

Stealth is no way to play this game. You have to get up and personal with the ghouls and mutants. Go toe to toe with a Deathclaw, and then you have truly experienced this game.

There's nothing quite like taking Vengeance (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vengeance) down to Old Olney while decked out in the Winterized T-51b armor and tearing down packs of Deathclaws. ;)

[Gorvi]

I need to get back to F3 and do some more quests and the DLC, I still have Broken Steel, Point Lookout, and The Pitt waiting to be done.

[Vigil80]

I still have Broken Steel to do, too. I need to just start a new game and experience it all over again.

[jpublic]

I honestly found none of the DLC buggy. Except the Anchorage one, because that unlimited durability armor is ridiculous.

[menage]

Point Lookout is tantastic.

[Bone]

I recently finished my third playthrough + Broken Steel + Pitt + Anchorage... goddamn this game delivers again and again. I still need to do Zeta and the riverboat. I've gone Gun mode every time, maybe next time I'll try Stealth. The Deathclaws no longer frighten me :)

[Savok]

DLC was buggy for me, kept freezing my PC, still be playing it otherwise.

[Telefrog]

Point Lookout is tantastic.

Point Lookout and Broken Steel are the best of the Fallout 3 DLC. I loved the swampy environment of Point Lookout.

[Xydarc]

I honestly found none of the DLC buggy. Except the Anchorage one, because that unlimited durability armor is ridiculous.
Every single piece of DLC has been buggy on my PS3. It took 6 tries to get Mothership Zeta to run. It's a testament to how much fun Fallout 3 is that I kept trying instead of giving up on it.

[J Arcane]

I recently finished my third playthrough + Broken Steel + Pitt + Anchorage... goddamn this game delivers again and again. I still need to do Zeta and the riverboat. I've gone Gun mode every time, maybe next time I'll try Stealth. The Deathclaws no longer frighten me :)
Stealth is fun. Max out your Agility as soon as possible, and then you just sneak up on guys, queue up a bunch of shots in VATS, and watch a whole room fall down sometimes. It's great. Once you get Grim Reaper's Sprint you basically never have to not use VATS.

[Drayven]

The problem with stealth is it can get overpowered. With the stealth suit if you use melee or a silenced weapon you can stand right on top of the enemies attacking them and they can't fight back.

[Banacek]

There's nothing quite like taking Vengeance (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vengeance) down to Old Olney while decked out in the Winterized T-51b armor and tearing down packs of Deathclaws. ;)

Unless you do it the wrong way like I did and visit Old Olney first :)

[TheEvilNarwhale]

PC? Cause I haven't had many problems at all on 360. Sure there' some bugs, which game this size hasn't, but I'd rather pay a buggy game like this than a polished turd.

Playing it on the 360 too. Didn't have any major problems until I started the Pitt

[trevrd]

Unless you do it the wrong way like I did and visit Old Olney first :)

Even after getting that loud mouth armor I would find myself hitting sneak out of habit, regardless of him giving away my position before I really see where the hostiles are. :p

Also, if you employ Mart's Mutant Mod Old Olney is even more heinous. Two words: Deathclaw Matriarchs.

[Shieldmaiden]

I really need to get the PC GotY. I borrowed it for a while on 360, nearly finished a playthrough and decided to hold out until I could get the PC version cheap.

[TheKeck]

There's nothing quite like taking Vengeance (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vengeance) down to Old Olney while decked out in the Winterized T-51b armor and tearing down packs of Deathclaws. ;)
Of course, the only thing that matters here is Vengeance since deathclaws ignore armor anyway. ;)

[ClannerDelta]

Of course, the only thing that matters here is Vengeance since deathclaws ignore armor anyway. ;)

Armor is all about looks. If you're just some wasteland hobo with a Vengeance... you look like a total idiot. :p

[TheKeck]

Ha ha ha. Ok, I'll grant you that much. :)

[Hawkzombie]

Armor is all about looks. If you're just some wasteland hobo with a Vengeance... you look like a total idiot. :p

NSFW
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[Sazime]

NSFW
SKd0JRCZi9I
Awesome, and, dare I say, hobo-tastic?

[MagGnome]

Fallout 3 is such a fun game! It's too bad it has issues on newer/Win7 machines, especially since the game is not all that old. I kept having freezes/crashing issues, but I found some tweaks online that are supposed to help or even solve the problem. I haven't fired up the game since implementing those tweaks, but I'd like to get back to the Wasteland soon. There's so much to see and do!

[Savok]

If they do work tell us, I'd like to play the rest of Point Lookout, place was awesome.

[iHap]

Fallout 3 is such a fun game! It's too bad it has issues on newer/Win7 machines, especially since the game is not all that old. I kept having freezes/crashing issues, but I found some tweaks online that are supposed to help or even solve the problem. I haven't fired up the game since implementing those tweaks, but I'd like to get back to the Wasteland soon. There's so much to see and do!

The only problems i've had with FO3 in terms of crashing with Win7 was because it doesn't load mods for the DLC correctly. If you're having the same problem then you just move the DLC from AppData/etc/etc into your Fallout3/Data folder.

[Savok]

I have the GOTY edition, they're already in the folder.

[MagGnome]

My problems had nothing to do with the DLC, which I haven't even gotten to yet. I do have the GOTY edition though.

At first the game was crashing while trying to launch. I found a fix for that online. Now it just randomly freezes/crashes from time to time, although I'm hoping the other tweaks I put it fixed that issue.

For those curious, here are the tweaks I implemented:

-Run the game in admin mode
-Run the game in WinXP compatibility mode
-Add the line iNumHWThreads=2 to the General section of Fallout.ini - I believe this is what stopped the game from crashing at launch.

There might have been a few other tweaks that I cannot recall, but I think those are it.

[Savok]

I shall test those later, thanks.

[MagGnome]

The ini fix forces the game to run using only two cores. Apparently it has issues running on processors with three or more cores. Bethesda has acknowledged this, as well as the game's problems running in Windows 7. They've also said that they have no plans to address any of these issues, as they are no longer supporting the game. It's a shame, since it's not all that old.

I'd provide a link, but I'm too lazy. :p It was in the Steam forum for Fallout 3.

[Suave Peanut]

Really? It's been running just wonderfully on my quad-core Windows 7 machine, so this is news to me.

[jpublic]

Yeah, it runs fine on my i7 box. I'm confused.

[MagGnome]

Well I guess I just have bad luck. :p

There are a few big threads on Steam about the issue, so I know I'm not the only one. Obviously the issue doesn't affect everyone. Like many PC issues it's sort of random.

[ClannerDelta]

Guys, why are you doing the whole "But everything works fine for me!" thing? The crashes are real, have been an issue since the game launched, It's widespread, don't act shocked. If your game works, great. Compatibility mode and forcing V-sync off worked for me and many others, but it's still an unstable game. (The option for V-sync within the game/launcher doesn't actually work. You have to edit the .ini.)

[Hawkzombie]

It's a Bethsheda game. It's buggy as hell, just some people have better luck than others :p

Hopefully Mags and Savok get it fixed. It's an awesome game.

[Sazime]

Guys, why are you doing the whole "But everything works fine for me!" thing?
Because they consider this a conversation and not something that is only relegated to those people having problems?

[ClannerDelta]

Because they consider this a conversation and not something that is only relegated to those people having problems?

It doesn't add anything to a conversation or help the person they are specifically replying to. We already know people can play the game. It's been established by the fact... people have posted about the fun they have.

[MagGnome]

It's a Bethsheda game. It's buggy as hell, just some people have better luck than others :p

Hopefully Mags and Savok get it fixed. It's an awesome game.

Being a Bethesda game, I'm surprised it hasn't wiped my C drive and caused my monitor to spontaneously combust. I still have nightmares about how buggy Morrowind was/is. :eek:

Bethesda - Bringing you amazing, vibrant, and buggy game worlds to explore since 1986.

[Hawkzombie]

Oblivion. It would seriously depend on what day of the week I played it, if it ran or not. No fucking joke.

[jpublic]

Guys, why are you doing the whole "But everything works fine for me!" thing? The crashes are real, have been an issue since the game launched, It's widespread, don't act shocked. If your game works, great. Compatibility mode and forcing V-sync off worked for me and many others, but it's still an unstable game. (The option for V-sync within the game/launcher doesn't actually work. You have to edit the .ini.)

Because I had the conditions listed as root causes, and I didn't have the crash? This means that the assumed root cause is inaccurate, and therefore something *else* must be it, *or* I had something that ameliorated the problem.

I will say I haven't tried it since I installed Win7 x64 on this machine. It ran okay in x86. I should see.


Edit: Oh God, Oblivion was horrible. I had a 7800GT SLI setup in my machine at the time, and the damn things would scream as they overheated. That game was so brutally crashtastic....until I went windowed mode, and they went away.

I wonder if F3 is the same, I only played that windowed.

[Savok]

Because I had the conditions listed as root causes, and I didn't have the crash? This means that the assumed root cause is inaccurate, and therefore something *else* must be it, *or* I had something that ameliorated the problem.
There you go. I know it's hard to believe you aren't the center of the universe for everything and everyone, but sometimes things happen to other people you're lucky enough to avoid.

Besides which, it's computers, put two side by side with the exact same specifications, exact same software, you'll get completely different results in terms of stability.

[ClannerDelta]

Because I had the conditions listed as root causes, and I didn't have the crash? This means that the assumed root cause is inaccurate, and therefore something *else* must be it, *or* I had something that ameliorated the problem.

I'll honestly {have sex with a random hobo} if you can ever manage to make any sort of meaningful list that can establish everything that fits in the *else* or *or* category. Here's a hint, an unnamed OS and a random unspecified i7 immediately make your job that much harder.

I wonder if F3 is the same, I only played that windowed.

This worked for me until I found out how to turn off V-sync manually. I should also mention I turned most of the post-processing stuff off in game and forced it through Nvidia's control panel. Which also helped stability.

Moral of the story. Bethesda games are buggy.

[Hawkzombie]

And like I said, it's especially prevalent in Bethesda products.

[Savok]

Y'all think of Morrowind, some of us were around for Daggerfall though... and Battlespire, which got the greatest review in Hyper's (Aussie game mag) history where they spent half the review trying to simply install it.

[TrackZero]

Seriously guys, lay off jpublic. His reply to Mags "Fallout 3 is such a fun game! It's too bad it has issues on newer/Win7 machines" was completely valid, you're taking this to a level it doesn't need to be (especially since Mags doesn't care and you're not targeting Suave on this).

[Savok]

Hrn, no quicker way to make my blood boil then to be dismissive of problems you don't have.

[Sazime]

It doesn't add anything to a conversation or help the person they are specifically replying to.
And yet, here we are. ;)

[MagGnome]

Yeah, really guys. There's no reason for such a silly argument. I've had problems, as have others. Meanwhile, some people have not. That's no reason to get upset or annoyed.

[ClannerDelta]

Yeah, really guys. There's no reason for such a silly argument. I've had problems, as have others. Meanwhile, some people have not. That's no reason to get upset or annoyed.

You're just feeling guilty about taking a life. How does it feel to be a murderer? :p

[MagGnome]

You're just feeling guilty about taking a life. How does it feel to be a murderer? :p

Taking the life of a foul demon from hell? It feels great. :cool:

[jpublic]

I love how people on this board get all nerd rage about me mentioning I don't have problems with something they do.

It makes me have fond recollections of our old home.

[MagGnome]

I don't think anyone had "nerd rage", per se. :p

[TrackZero]

It makes me have fond recollections of our old home. forums anywhere

Fixed that for you.

[Suave Peanut]

So Fallout 3 is a fun game, huh?

[TrackZero]

So Fallout 3 is a fun game, huh?

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Sure is. Three levels away now from getting my last achievement, I'd say it's a slog, but it's so not, because Fallout 3 is that awesome.

[jpublic]

I want to officially apologize for being an asshat in this thread.



ANYWAY, I've installed F3 on my current Win64 i7 machine. Can someone help me figure what crashes I'm supposed to be seeing? I want to see if I can reproduce them.

[Khrymsyn]

odd question...

is the DLC ONLY through Xbox live, even for the PC version? I want to pick up The Pitt and Broken Sword (maybe Anchorage), but was hoping to find a deal on them and not nessecarily buy through live, though if I find a cheap points card I spose that's just as good as getting a deal on the DLC with other methods. =)

[Suave Peanut]

odd question...

is the DLC ONLY through Xbox live, even for the PC version?

Pretty much. You can either buy the whole Game of the Year version (either physical or digital) with the DLC included, or you can buy them individually through Games for Windows - LIVE.

[Widgetcraft]

So Fallout 3 is a fun game, huh?

IMO: It's fun so long as you don't let the game lead you around by the nose. I have the most fun in the game just wandering around the wasteland, scavenging shit, and exploring random buildings and locations. Going on missions (especially the main quest missions) just takes away from the experience. Just being a lone survivor out in the wastes is a ton of fun, and I can still enjoy it today; in fact, I played it for a few hours over the weekend.

[Khrymsyn]

Pretty much. You can either buy the whole Game of the Year version (either physical or digital) with the DLC included, or you can buy them individually through Games for Windows - LIVE.

Bah, don't see buying the GOTY as an option as I already HAVE F3...

Okie dokie then... the hunt for point cards begins =)

[jpublic]

I have to agree with HM here - F3 is the best when you're just wandering. That's not to say the quests or plotline is *bad*, per se, it's just typical Bethesda product - very thin, and not the real high point of the game.

IMO, the best way to play the game is to play the main plot for an hour or so after you get outside, then level a bit (Anchorage is *great* for this), then continue the main plot to another point (to spawn a certain set of enemies), and then scour the wasteland for stuff.

Last time I played as my Clint-Eastwood-alike, I distinctly recall having so much damn ammo and money I probably could have bought Tenpenny Towers.

[Suave Peanut]

Yeah, wandering on your own is clearly how their games are intended to be played.

The main quest is just there to have something else to do and to give it an "ending."

[Savok]

ANYWAY, I've installed F3 on my current Win64 i7 machine. Can someone help me figure what crashes I'm supposed to be seeing? I want to see if I can reproduce them.
The worst for me was Point Lookout. Any of the DLC was bad but that was the worst, sometimes I'd only get 60 seconds of play.

On that note, I've put about 2 hours in and the tweaks Gnome found appear to have worked, performance took a minor hit but so far not a single freeze.

[jpublic]

Savok - are you playing full screen or windowed? A couple of the tweaks I've seen say you can do the thread changes, or you can just go windowed and everything magically works.

[Hawkzombie]

I spent about 60+ hours on the game and the DLC before I even started the main quest. It was worth it.

[jpublic]

I spent about 60+ hours on the game and the DLC before I even started the main quest. It was worth it.

Yeah, being L20 (in the main game) or L30 (Broken Steel) is kind of awesome mostly because you get access to actual *challenging* critters then.

[ClannerDelta]

The mainstory isn't bad. It's not forgettable or boring like Oblivion's. It also has two awesome finishes. The original (minus the bullshit about the game ending) and Broken Steel's ending.

That said. I was probably 50-70 hours into the game before I got the power armor cert.

Cruising the wasteland is just fun.

[iHap]

I've been playing around with some new mods i got today.

What i have on me is a Camo uniform mode(with a special texture), backpack, gas mask, and M4A1. I'm also using a high resolution wasteland ground mod if anybody notices.

Click for bigger picture.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2799/4474978600_91a676d200.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2799/4474978600_91a676d200_b.jpg)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2705/4474978604_233421906a.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2705/4474978604_233421906a_b.jpg)

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4474978610_b1104b76d9.jpg (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4016/4474978610_b1104b76d9_b.jpg)

[Sazime]

The mainstory isn't bad. It's not forgettable or boring like Oblivion's.
I'm playing Oblivion right now with the expansions and ignoring the main story just so I don't have those irritating portals everywhere.

I've been playing around with some new mods i got today.

What i have on me is a Camo uniform mode(with a special texture), backpack, gas mask, and M4A1. I'm also using a high resolution wasteland ground mod if anybody notices.
What do you have AA set at? Looking at some of those screen shots it almost looks like the ground is handled at different levels depending on whether or not you're looking directly at it. Never noticed that before.

[MagGnome]

Nice shots iHap! I'm itching to get back to the wastes. Part of me wants to finish Arkham Asylum first, and another part of me just wants to say screw it and play FO3 instead. :p


ANYWAY, I've installed F3 on my current Win64 i7 machine. Can someone help me figure what crashes I'm supposed to be seeing? I want to see if I can reproduce them.

The crashes I had were completely random. They would occur for no apparent reason. The game would either lock up and have to be force quit, or it will simply close and I'd be looking at my desktop.


The worst for me was Point Lookout. Any of the DLC was bad but that was the worst, sometimes I'd only get 60 seconds of play.

On that note, I've put about 2 hours in and the tweaks Gnome found appear to have worked, performance took a minor hit but so far not a single freeze.

I'm glad to hear it!

[iHap]

What do you have AA set at? Looking at some of those screen shots it almost looks like the ground is handled at different levels depending on whether or not you're looking directly at it. Never noticed that before.

It's either at 2 or 4. Default settings. I may turn it up to see if there is any difference per your comment.

EDIT: I turned everything up to it's highest and it looks the same. Because it's a mod that replaces default ground texture it may be the same with any AA setting.

Nice shots iHap! I'm itching to get back to the wastes. Part of me wants to finish Arkham Asylum first, and another part of me just wants to say screw it and play FO3 instead. :p

I think Fallout 3 is my favorite game on my list atm. I've played it like 4-6 times through and am obsessed with it. Nothing beats it!

[Sazime]

EDIT: I turned everything up to it's highest and it looks the same. Because it's a mod that replaces default ground texture it may be the same with any AA setting.
Hrm, makes me wonder if textures are sometime built to specifically handle AA. I can't imagine they would be, but if my understanding of how AA works is correct, it would at least make sense.

[Savok]

Savok - are you playing full screen or windowed? A couple of the tweaks I've seen say you can do the thread changes, or you can just go windowed and everything magically works.

Full, windowed always crashed for me.

[Bone]

Hrm, makes me wonder if textures are sometime built to specifically handle AA. I can't imagine they would be, but if my understanding of how AA works is correct, it would at least make sense.

AA affects the edges of models and geometry- smoothing out, for instance, where your character model overlaps with the world or where a structure overlaps the sky or background. It's texture filtering (bilinear, trilinear, anisotropic, etc) that affects how a texture maintains resolution as it fades into the distance and is squished by perspective.

[Troggles]

Started playing this again because I read this thread. I may actually get farther than 10 hours in this time.

[J Arcane]

When my hard drive went down today, I saved three things: my documents, my music, and Fallout 3.

Wasteland 4 Life, dawg.

[jpublic]

Well, I ran into the Jingwei bug in Operation Anchorage. That one was a BLAST at level 2. :D

I've played the game through a couple times now, and I've never managed to play evil. I'm at Megaton, and I didn't even think twice about not blowing it up.

I did, however happily use Black Widow on Burke and made him change his mind.

[Savok]

Though Gnome's tweaks worked a charm, Mothership Zeta won't start properly now...argh.

[Gwinny]

Thinking about picking up the PC GOTY edition! Can anyone recommend mods that make things... prettier? I've seen mods for making the outdoors greener, and some good clothing mods, but I'd like... I don't know, some interior textures that don't look like a nuclear apocalypse brought society screeching to a halt. I know that's the point, but if I get into FO3 again I'd like a nice house with most of the grime scrubbed off.

[Savok]

Lights (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2672)

Nice clean bunker (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9592)

[jpublic]

Has anyone played through the game with the greenery mods? How is it?

[Hawkzombie]

Has anyone played through the game with the greenery mods? How is it?

Non-Apocalyptic.

:p

[Gwinny]

Lights (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2672)

Nice clean bunker (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9592)

Thank you! :)

[jpublic]

Best mod ever:

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1418

100 more songs!

[jpublic]

I stand corrected - the game is crashing a lot more in Win7 64 than it did on any of my other installs. It's random, too. I'll be tooling around, and then bam, freeze.

[Suave Peanut]

I did experience my first crash/freeze yesterday. I don't know if all the shit I was doing on my secondary monitor was a factor, but the game stopped working regardless.

[Shieldmaiden]

Are there any good end-game alternatives to power armour? As cool as it is, there's something a bit off about going through the whole game with post-apocalyptic, Mad Max look and then suddenly switching to shiny armour. Especially when you're a smooth-talking pistol jockey, like my traditional Fallout characters.

[J Arcane]

My old character used the stealth armor, for the sneaky tastic ness.

But if you aren't stealth, there's really nothing better than power armor.

You could always, you know, just wear what you want. It's not like the game is so hard you'll die otherwise. Might be some perks or mods you could get to boost your armor through bonuses or something I guess, if you're concerned with the numbers.

[jpublic]

I ran through almost the entire game on my first playthrough with the Combat Armor I got from Reilly.

In my later, Operation Anchorage playthroughs, I did most of the game with Power Armor of some sort.

[MagGnome]

I stand corrected - the game is crashing a lot more in Win7 64 than it did on any of my other installs. It's random, too. I'll be tooling around, and then bam, freeze.

Yep. That's exactly what I was talking about before. I'm sorry to hear you're having these issues. You might want to implement those changes that I posted earlier. They seem to help quite a bit.

[Shieldmaiden]

Finally got this! Just waiting for the GotY edition to download on Steam, which is deciding to have a go-slow at the moment. Apparently when I pre-load a game, it's like lightning, but when I'm waiting on it to finish so I can play, it decides it doesn't want to nom all the available bandwidth.

I'm just poking around Nexus looking for mods at the moment. I'm probably sticking with a few graphical improvement and extra item mods for now, I don't want to mess around with anything else yet.

[Widgetcraft]

Has anyone played through the game with the greenery mods? How is it?

Yep, I posted about it somewhere else in the thread, in the long-long-ago, in the before-time:

Giving Greenworld and Fellout a try, and it is pretty cool. The idea of wandering through the wilderness amidst urban ruins is just awesome. Got some screenshots:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3523/3775654948_89987a89cd.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2447/3774849995_3d04a95b44.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3444/3774850319_c84e485801.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2470/3775655964_0f2ce40052.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2676/3774850967_a54f94c6d1.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2511/3774851275_57e60de835.jpg

Wish Flickr let me have the actual 1680x1050 resolution shots, but the most they give me is 1024x640, which isn't even worth linking too. Photobucket shits on the resolutions too.

[Shieldmaiden]

Wow, I'm seriously tempted to try those out. It makes a nice change from desert, desert and more desert.

[Hawkzombie]

Don't forget the occasional rocky desert.

Actually, to me it seems game breaking as far as immersion. The whole thing is most plants wouldn't survive because the water, as well as some ground areas, is irradiated and bad for you.

[ClannerDelta]

Don't forget the occasional rocky desert.

Actually, to me it seems game breaking as far as immersion. The whole thing is most plants wouldn't survive because the water, as well as some ground areas, is irradiated and bad for you.

Herbert did it. Other trees can do it.

[Xydarc]

I enjoyed Fallout 3 on my PS3, but seeing some of those mods are tempting me to purchase the Steam version.

Then again, Mag's issues with Win 7 are keeping me from pulling the trigger.

[J Arcane]

Herbert did it. Other trees can do it.
Well, but it rather ruins the point of Herbert's whole storyline if suddenly there's trees everywhere already.

I like the aesthetic of the game for the most part. It's not without it's ugly spots, but making it green and pretty doesn't quite mesh with the feel of the game to me.

[Hawkzombie]

I enjoyed Fallout 3 on my PS3, but seeing some of those mods are tempting me to purchase the Steam version.

Then again, Mag's issues with Win 7 are keeping me from pulling the trigger.

I traded in my copy on the 360 after I played through all the DLC and beat it and got a majority of the achievements. Mostly so I could get it on steam during a sale, and use mods.

[Khrymsyn]

Don't forget the occasional rocky desert.
Actually, to me it seems game breaking as far as immersion. The whole thing is most plants wouldn't survive because the water, as well as some ground areas, is irradiated and bad for you.

Considering how long Fallout 3 (2258) occurs after the nuclear war (2077), it's MORE realistic there'd be "natural reclamation". So in a weird way, a bunch of green (or at least greenish-brown), is more likely and more "true to life" immersive, than pure desert. In fact, look at pictures of Prypat. That's the town that was basically wiped off the planet due to Chernobyl's explosion some 24 years ago, and it's green as can be, if not a bit weird looking due to some twisted and dead looking trees.

[MagGnome]

I agree that the original game is far too bland and grey looking. It makes everything sort of blend together. I might try one of those green mods the next time I bland, if only to break up the monotony.

[CES]

Considering how long Fallout 3 (2258) occurs after the nuclear war (2077), it's MORE realistic there'd be "natural reclamation". So in a weird way, a bunch of green (or at least greenish-brown), is more likely and more "true to life" immersive, than pure desert. In fact, look at pictures of Prypat. That's the town that was basically wiped off the planet due to Chernobyl's explosion some 24 years ago, and it's green as can be, if not a bit weird looking due to some twisted and dead looking trees.

Interestingly, there's quite a few trees and plants in Prypiat that have grown straight through concrete. There's also plenty of animal life there too, perfectly unharmed by two decades of radiation.

In Fallout's case though, there was a full-on nuclear winter rather than a localised burst of radiation so maybe a lot of plant life didn't make it through.

[Hawkzombie]

Considering how long Fallout 3 (2258) occurs after the nuclear war (2077), it's MORE realistic there'd be "natural reclamation". So in a weird way, a bunch of green (or at least greenish-brown), is more likely and more "true to life" immersive, than pure desert. In fact, look at pictures of Prypat. That's the town that was basically wiped off the planet due to Chernobyl's explosion some 24 years ago, and it's green as can be, if not a bit weird looking due to some twisted and dead looking trees.

I will agree, there should be at least SOME vegitation. But from what I understand, these greener mods throw it every where. So much so it's almost like there was never any nuclear fallout, and it's all just a chemical spill at a run down ghost town :p

[jpublic]

I'm told Greenworld breaks if you run the DLC through Live. Sad.

[J Arcane]

I don't use Live in FO3. I hate having my saves tied to it. I actually deleted my Live profile from my machine, so it would stop trying to log me in.

[Savok]

Simple thing, don't use Live. Nexus has a program that stops the game from even looking for Live I think.

[CES]

FOSE. (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8606)
Fallout 3 Mod Manager. (http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=640)

You should be running these anyway since they allow for many more mods. Just start FOMM and click "Launch FOSE" and it skips GFWL (to the point you don't even need it installed)

[Wilkz07]

i've been trying to remember to play F3 while signed out of live so i don't get messages from 360 friends. i usually start up fallout and sign in, then turn on the 360 and sign into that. it puts my fallout game into offline mode.

trying to finish up mothership zeta before moving onto point lookout and doing any more in Pitt.

[Inspector Fowler]

As I posted in the Metro 2033 thread, I just installed this via Steam.

Quick question, though - I know it is very RPG and I won't cry if this is the case - but is the PipBoy really the only way to switch weapons? I don't know if it every gave me an alternative but I haven't figured anything out yet.

[Savok]

To my knowledge it is. Don't worry too much, it becomes instinctive pretty quickly, also lets you check other things like the state of its repair before equipping.

[Sazime]

As I posted in the Metro 2033 thread, I just installed this via Steam.

Quick question, though - I know it is very RPG and I won't cry if this is the case - but is the PipBoy really the only way to switch weapons? I don't know if it every gave me an alternative but I haven't figured anything out yet.
You can set up hot swapping by holding down the number keys and selecting a weapon, if I remember right.

[Shieldmaiden]

You can set up hot swapping by holding down the number keys and selecting a weapon, if I remember right.

Yep, that's how you do it. Go to the weapon select screen (or any part of the inventory, I usually have stimpacks on one hotkey and my helmet, if it has a charisma penalty, on another) hold down a number key and left click the item you want.

Simples!

[Inspector Fowler]

Dear Fallout 3:

You had me at "quick travel to places I have been since walking on foot is only kind of interesting".

Love,

Inspector Fowler

[Banacek]

Dear Fallout 3:

You had me at "quick travel to places I have been since walking on foot is only kind of interesting".

Love,

Inspector Fowler

That's the best part of Fallout 3, exploring the Wasteland. You going to miss out on a lot of content if you quick travel everywhere.