Canadian countrymen and women....we are losing...

[Exodus]

New copyright bill first draft. (http://media.onsugar.com/files/ons1/338/3389156/30_2009/dc/batman-was-at-first-like.jpg)

We've got to get this shit sent back.

The director of an organization representing Canadian video-game developers was pleased with the bill, saying the industry needs strong legal protection for digital locks.

And I bet anything she has ties to ubisoft.

Link to first draft of bill. (http://sync.sympatico.ca/news/contentposting?newsitemid=3535416&feedname=cp-consumer-tech&show=false&number=0&showbyline=true&subtitle&detect&abc=abc&date=true&pagenumber=4)

[biosc1]

Thankfully, it's been all over the local news this morning. Lots of people seem to be against it.

Now, I'm not a fan of pirates and think it sucks that people are getting their stuff stolen. Heck, I work hard on the product my company sells to keep it locked down to a license key dongle. Now, having said that, I don't go out of my way to solve people pirating it because that's such a small fraction of our market.

The main thing I dislike about this proposed bill is the proposed restriction on fair use and anti-drm circumvention (just don't put any there and let me move it from device to device as I see fit).

Some more discussion: http://techdirt.com/articles/20100602/1442409661.shtml

The biggest problem facing the people opposing this bill is that many will see them as pirates and people who want everything for free. There does have to be a compromise.

My favourite saying, though, is: "Don't worry about people stealing your product, worry when they stop stealing it".

Adjust your business model. The company I work for understands the product gets pirated, but we offer so many more benefits (such as free tech support and classes) to people who purchase our product, that it makes it worth it to buy. Also helps that a lot of the companies we deal with are publicly traded and should be following the rules.

[J Arcane]

The restriction on DRM circumvention and fair use in the US DMCA is one of the most anti-consumer pieces of legislation ever passed.

I hope you guys can fight off these vultures, because the bottom line is, they aren't after piracy, they're after your rights as a consumer. They want to control culture, absolutely, piracy is just a convenient scapegoat.

[Serapth]

The restriction on DRM circumvention and fair use in the US DMCA is one of the most anti-consumer pieces of legislation ever passed.

I hope you guys can fight off these vultures, because the bottom line is, they aren't after piracy, they're after your rights as a consumer. They want to control culture, absolutely, piracy is just a convenient scapegoat.

We have once. They tried pushing it through again but Harper prorogued parliament. On the bright side, we have Michael Geist, who is pretty much one of the loadest ( and smartest ) tech defenders in the world. I gaurantee if you've read anything on the subject, you will have been exposed to Geist.



If they do this, I want all tariff dropped on blank media.

[Exodus]

If they do this, I want all tariff dropped on blank media.

Totally man.

[roboninja]

I love the name in the website for the bill, "The Fair Modernization of Copyright Act". Fair does not apply here, folks. I think these MPs need a fucking dictionary. How much do you want to bet the main backers of this (James Clement and James Moore) have strong ties to the major media companies in Canada. Maybe even get a cushy Board of Directors job at one of them after leaving office?

[CappinCanuck]

The new bill is fantastic, except for the one clause criminalizing DRM circumvention. Everything else on it is just terrific. They go out of their way to protect backing up your digital goods rights but you can't if it has DRM? Blah, what's the point? I'm sure I didn't even need to point it out since everyone on here will get it.

[J Arcane]

Someone's taken a page from the Americans on that title. We're masters at the deceptively contradictory bill title.

[roboninja]

The new bill is fantastic, except for the one clause criminalizing DRM circumvention. Everything else on it is just terrific. They go out of their way to protect backing up your digital goods rights but you can't if it has DRM? Blah, what's the point? I'm sure I didn't even need to point it out since everyone on here will get it.

It helps them defend the bill by saying "look, we covered fair personal use!" while not being questioned on what exactly you can back up/use fairly without bypassing the DRM.

[Exodus]

University of Ottawa Internet law expert Michael Geist welcomes sections of the new legislation that legitimize consumer rights, such as allowing Canadians to back up their DVDs and software.

But he says the industry would have too much power when it comes to digital locks.

"The fundamental flaw, I think some would see as the fatal flaw in this legislation, is that its starting principle is one that wherever there is a digital lock, all of those rights cease to exist," Geist said Wednesday in Montreal.

"It feels like the government's putting up a big sign encouraging the use of digital locks.

"Unfortunately, they giveth and taketh away at the same time."

Geist says when it comes to digital locks, wording in the legislation is almost identical to that of the United States.

"I know there was big pressure from the United States and it's pretty clear they've caved to that pressure," he said.

"I think it's largely to satisfy the trade pressure we face from the United States, probably more than anyone else."

And they are saddling our ISP's with being our watch dogs or face legal battle.

[Serapth]

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Geist.... I told you. :)

[roboninja]

Fucking Americans! :p

[Exodus]

Following on the heels of this I just read on kotaku that they are discussing the idea of raising 5% taxes on all electronics to keep dying media like newspapers and the like.

The american gov't is setting a great example for all of us. -_-

[MalReynolds]

I thought it was illegal to give away our info to a third party without our Permission ... so just say i download "Sameday" a movie ... that WB owns they come to my ISP and say "User using the ip address 103.244.53.3.2 is downloading illegally a movie, we want their name and address" i dont think that by law they can give that info over

[Exodus]

I thought it was illegal to give away our info to a third party without our Permission ... so just say i download "Sameday" a movie ... that WB owns they come to my ISP and say "User using the ip address 103.244.53.3.2 is downloading illegally a movie, we want their name and address" i dont think that by law they can give that info over

They won't be handing out information they'll be using them as messengers. And if they don't do their messenger duties they will get poo'd on.

[MalReynolds]

what are they gonna cut us off?

[TrackZero]

They won't be handing out information they'll be using them as messengers. And if they don't do their messenger duties they will get poo'd on.

Exactly, nothing would make them happier than seeing Shaw or Teksavvy go out of business.

[MalReynolds]

what a bunch of F'ers

[Doogie2K]

Exactly, nothing would make them happier than seeing Shaw or Teksavvy go out of business.

TekSavvEEEE!

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[Exodus]

Annnnd the war on piracy begins!

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18815

This, will be president bumma's war!

[Generation ABXY]

Bumma? That's a new one for me...

[Gerbs]

I don't like reading, can someone explain to me how much this is going to affect my life?

[Exodus]

I don't like reading, can someone explain to me how much this is going to affect my life?

This, is the part you have to worry about.

The White House's vision is perhaps a prelude to the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, which will go before Congress later this year. The bill would make P2P or BitTorrent client development a criminal offense if the distributed software was used for infringement. It also implements an interesting provision called "imminent infringement", which allows the government to charge people who they think might be about to infringe with a civil offense (for example if you searched "torrent daft punk"). This is among the first official "thought crime" provisions to be proposed by the U.S. government. The bill also makes it a criminal offense to bypass DRM.

[Ultima Thulian]

I don't like reading, can someone explain to me how much this is going to affect my life?

Wouldn't you have to read the person's response though? Either way you lose, dood.

As for the trouble you Canadians are facing: good. You fuckers sent us Justin Bieber. You earned whatever misery falls upon you.

[TrackZero]

Wouldn't you have to read the person's response though? Either way you lose, dood.

As for the trouble you Canadians are facing: good. You fuckers sent us Justin Bieber. You earned whatever misery falls upon you.

We didn't send him, you bought him. Buyer beware, no returns.

[Gerbs]

Thanks for the catchup gentlemen. Also, Bieber is Canadian??? How did that even happen. Kid should have been killed by packs of wild moose like 95% of kids his age.

[Xerxes]

We didn't send him, you bought him. Buyer beware, no returns.

I believe Usher falls on Usher for buying, and Timberlake for being a runner up to want to bring him here. I mean sure you get shit tons of cash, but he's the actual line of, fuck this money, I have dignity to up hold.