Fuck Saw V.

[divinechaos]

I didn't see a thread about it so here's mine. It fucking sucked. I liked 1-3, 4 was a little hard to follow but it still had great traps. 5 on the other hand is just retarded beyond belief. The traps are so damn obvious, the story is extremely cliched and they it didn't answer anything. In fact, it only made me even more confused by adding more and more characters. The movie was about 30% traps, 70% incoherent story and 100% shit. Saw VI has no chance of being even remotely mediocre in my eyes.

[LongStepMantis]

I loved how they advertised it at "The final one!...it is...we swear!" Then they announce Saw VI before V is even out.

I watched Saw I, that was enough for me. These movies don't seem at all interesting to me. If I had heard back then that they would make it to at least 6 of them, I wouldn't have believed it.

[Lint of Death]

No way am I going to watch any of these movies.

[Wolvie]

I watched Saw I, that was enough for me. These movies don't seem at all interesting to me. If I had heard back then that they would make it to at least 6 of them, I wouldn't have believed it.

Same here. I watched the first one with my bro-in-law, and afterwards he was all giddy and thought the movie was well done and thought out. I'll admit the ending was quite a twist, but the other 95 minutes of torturous traps bored me to tears.

Also the fact a dude saws his own leg off after he thinks he hears his family getting shot, not knowing where he was, or if he'd survive, or if they were really dead... it just came off as preposterous, stupid, and unbelievable.

[Psykoboy2]

I love the SAW series.

[Everyone vs Dinosaurs]

I haven't seen any of them.


Do they just gross you out? Or is there some entertainment there too?

[Purple Santa]

I haven't seen any of them.


Do they just gross you out? Or is there some entertainment there too?

You do have a way of....asking some interesting questions :confused:

Well if gross out is entertainment to you it's entertainment :p

The 1st actually had something of a plot...1-3 are bearable if you like this sort of stuff. I prefer the old hack and slash movies...give me Jason anytime...but they are worth renting. See in the movie theaters...hell no...

[Disgustipated]

These movies fucking suck and it disgusts me that these poor excuses for cinema are being paid for while far more worthwhile movies languish in obscurity.

[Food Nipple]

The first one is actually pretty good, but then they threw out plot and turned out the gore to compensate.

[LongStepMantis]

It does make me wonder...how many people out there don't mind these movies, but they go on and on about how video games are too violent. Manhunt games are clearly unacceptable...unless they make it into a movie. ;)

[Shadowstorm]

They all suck. I am of the opinion that good horror films are few and far between. Horror films today rely on extraordinary amounts of blood and gore. Ever seen an Alfred Hitchcock film? There's only one or two scenes in all that he's done that show blood. Truly suspenseful.

Horror movies today suck.

[Dukefrukem]

LOL @ everyone who supported this franchise past 2... oh and by the way, crap like this will continue to be made as long as saps continue to pay for it... straight from the producers mouth they said they will continue to make SAW movies until one bombs. STOP SEEING IT!!

They are already casting for Saw VI

[Scaryfaced]

I'm not a horror movie fan, but I enjoyed the first Saw. It had an interesting plot and opened up a new type of psychological horror, which I hope film makers take advantage of in the future. However, from what I've seen of the others, the phrase "torture porn" seems pretty accurate. I explained my views to a friend of mine, an obsessive horror fan, and he explained it pretty well. Apparently, I enjoy quick deaths. Someone's head gets chopped off, shot in the heart, throat cut, whatever. As long as it's quick, I can stomach it. However, when you mix suspense, anticipation and death, I just can't deal with it. Thats why I couldn't stand Hostel. If you think the Saw movies are bad, give Hostel a look. I had to act tough, as there was a cute girl burrying her face in my arm for the entire movie, but Hostel was disturbing for me.
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[Adam Blue]

These movies fucking suck and it disgusts me that these poor excuses for cinema are being paid for while far more worthwhile movies languish in obscurity.

There's nothing wrong with sitting back and watching people die in traps. I'm not afraid to admit I love fictional violent death. Like the Jason movies and Final Destinations, I watch for the deaths. The SAW story is pretty interesting though, and I'm not surprised they didn't answer much in this one to leave a sequel open. Although, if that affects the death factor I won't be too pleased.

[LongStepMantis]

They all suck. I am of the opinion that good horror films are few and far between. Horror films today rely on extraordinary amounts of blood and gore. Ever seen an Alfred Hitchcock film? There's only one or two scenes in all that he's done that show blood. Truly suspenseful.

Horror movies today suck.

But how will they showcase expensive CGI and special effects with suspense!

You are correct though. Remember how older horror movies kept you in the dark about what was going on and what the villain/monster looked like until the end? Now, you often get a direct dialogue with the villain in the first 10 minutes.


They are already casting for Saw VI

I laughed my ass off because the first trailer I saw on TV for Saw V touted it as "The final chapter", and 10 minutes later I saw something advertising the "Win an appearance in Saw VI!" contest. Subtle.

[Rakael]

I watched the first, that was more than enough. It was actually somewhat entertaining, but not nearly enough for me to watch any of the sequels.

[J Arcane]

I haven't seen any of them.


Do they just gross you out? Or is there some entertainment there too?
Nope. Just pure snuff porn for bored Americans looking for a cheap thrill.

[Squidbot]

The first one is the one with the dread pirate Roberts and some other guy locked in a bathroom, right? I quite liked that one.

[Rakael]

Huh?

There was maybe one scene of gore in the first SAW and it was the "shocking" ending so I really wouldn't consider it superfluous. Also, I'm tired of everyone leaning on Hitchcock as some paradigm in horror cinema, like no other form of psychological thriller can exist in good taste.

They lean on Hitchcock because his films are still masterpieces to this day. They lean on him because only rarely has he been matched. I would rather watch a Hitchcock film than most any of the worthless tripe out there today. Considering how long ago his films were made, and what type of film technology he had to work with that says something.

[Dukefrukem]

They lean on Hitchcock because his films are still masterpieces to this day. They lean on him because only rarely has he been matched. I would rather watch a Hitchcock film than most any of the worthless tripe out there today. Considering how long ago his films were made, and what type of film technology he had to work with that says something.

Rear Window is the best thriller ever made...

[LongStepMantis]

See, we need more quality horror movies...like this one:
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;)
Now I feel like renting some Troma movies.

[Kelegacy]

I love the SAW series.

I thought Saw 1 was brilliant. The rest, however, are irrelevant. If you liked the first, don't bother with the rest. It's sort of like the Dune series. Stop after the first one. Keep going with the series and you'll eventually loathe it.

[KamaItachi]

The first one was fairly rubbish, with a lame premise, terrible acting and took pains to point out how clever it was at every turn. Even to the point of having almost every character say "They call him the jig-saw killer, but he's never actually killed any one. All he does is blindfold people, tie them up with piano-wire, cover them in flesh eating ants and fire, put them in boxes, set fire to the boxes, mine the immediate area of the boxes put barbed wire around and over the mines and cover the barbed wire in acid. He also shoots them. He's really, really really clever"

[Zabyx]

I absolutely loved Hostel (didn't see the sequel), but for some reason, the Saw franchise is just meh to me.

[Blue]

They made a second one? After the first? Huh.

[squirrelTactics]

I love the SAW series.

We're apparently a rare breed. :(

[Everyone vs Dinosaurs]

See, we need more quality horror movies...like this one:
rDMdfo2Ctt0
;)
Now I feel like renting some Troma movies.

Is that for real?

[Scaryfaced]

Is that for real?

You obviously aren't familiar with Troma films. I'd suggest you watch some Toxic Avenger and then ask yourself if that's real or not. Troma's one of the few companies keeping campy B movies alive. Tits and rediculously fake gore, can't get much better than that.
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[King3567]

Toxic Avenger is hilarious. As for Saw, the whole series has been kind of lame. The first one was pretentious as hell and then the series has basically flat-lined since. I've wikipedia'd the plots to the movies after 2 and they are lame as hell.

[Wasson_]

No way am I going to watch any of these movies.

Ditto.

this is not too short...

[Xerxes]

Toxic Avenger is on Hulu.

[Psykoboy2]

We're apparently a rare breed. :(

I guess so. But, you know, that's fine. People can like whatever they want. I've been completely entertained with each one and also curious with where they take them each time...well, the main story anyway. I couldn't care less about the traps. Inventive, sure, but they aren't advancing the story for me.

But yeah, I still love the series.

[muddi900]

They all suck. I am of the opinion that good horror films are few and far between. Horror films today rely on extraordinary amounts of blood and gore. Ever seen an Alfred Hitchcock film? There's only one or two scenes in all that he's done that show blood. Truly suspenseful.

Horror movies today suck.

WTF?!? How can you compare hitchcock to Saw??? How??? Your tongue should be pulled out for such a horrible offence.



They are already casting for Saw VI

They signed the lead actors after 4. And it's all your fault. All of you assholes. Especially you, Adrian.

I guess so. But, you know, that's fine. People can like whatever they want. I've been completely entertained with each one and also curious with where they take them each time...well, the main story anyway. I couldn't care less about the traps. Inventive, sure, but they aren't advancing the story for me.

But yeah, I still love the series.

You're interested in the story?:confused:

[Psykoboy2]

You're interested in the story?:confused:

Yeah, I am. So far I've enjoyed everything they have done with the story. Four was tough to follow at first until you realize that it take place at almost the EXACT same time that 3 is taking place.

But, you know, it isn't for everyone, I guess.

[Dave]

I love the SAW series.

I never knew that you liked these. With the exception of four (which can go fuck itself, as that was just horseshit--aside from the the NKOTB getting ice-head-clobbered!!), right on!

I don't think these have been as bad as some on this post are saying. In a world of so many shitty fucking remakes, you take what you can get, you know?

[muddi900]

Yeah, I am. So far I've enjoyed everything they have done with the story. Four was tough to follow at first until you realize that it take place at almost the EXACT same time that 3 is taking place.

But, you know, it isn't for everyone, I guess.

At no point was it hard to follow. It is like if Evil dead took itself seriously.

[Johan]

These movies fucking suck and it disgusts me that these poor excuses for cinema are being paid for while far more worthwhile movies languish in obscurity.

I approve of this message.

[Pureboy]

I thought all of them were fun, throwaway movies. Like the horror equivalent of a Michael Bay summer movie. Check your brain at the door and enjoy. I also find it amusing how they squeeze more life out of the plot at each sequel. There are far, far better horror movies out there, but so what?

[Dave]

I thought all of them were fun, throwaway movies. Like the horror equivalent of a Michael Bay summer movie. Check your brain at the door and enjoy.

Ha ha! Good point.

There are far, far better horror movies out there, but so what?

Speaking of ... this morning, after spending close to four hours getting back up on the Internets, I watched a little film called Dance of the Dead (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0926063/). If anyone is still reading this thread, and hasn't seen it yet (and might be up for something different), please give it a look. It's kind of a comedy, kind of serious; but overall it's a really fun little movie. And it's on DVD, so you can rent it and watch it at your own convenience; but I'm writing this because it's worth everyone here's time.

So that's my two cents. Enjoy!

[AniAko]

These movies fucking suck and it disgusts me that these poor excuses for cinema are being paid for while far more worthwhile movies languish in obscurity.

Lashing out about a movie sucking only gets it more attention while your precious "worthwhile" movies remain unnoticed.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Same here. I watched the first one with my bro-in-law, and afterwards he was all giddy and thought the movie was well done and thought out. I'll admit the ending was quite a twist, but the other 95 minutes of torturous traps bored me to tears.

The ending was a twist because it didn't make any freaking sense.

There for no reason for that guy to be in the room, and there's no way he could have disguised his breathing for hours.
It was certainly surprising, but it would have been surprising if one of the characters had erupted in a stream of unicorns, too.

[TheFlyingOrc]

They all suck. I am of the opinion that good horror films are few and far between. Horror films today rely on extraordinary amounts of blood and gore. Ever seen an Alfred Hitchcock film? There's only one or two scenes in all that he's done that show blood. Truly suspenseful.

My goodness, the pretension. Hitchcock didn't even MAKE horror films, he made thrillers. Horror films are SUPPOSED to be mindless.

[Gorvi]

They all suck. I am of the opinion that good horror films are few and far between. Horror films today rely on extraordinary amounts of blood and gore. Ever seen an Alfred Hitchcock film? There's only one or two scenes in all that he's done that show blood. Truly suspenseful.

Horror movies today suck.

100% agreed. The Saw movies aren't even horror, they're torture porn. I don't really consider what Hitchcock did to be horror, though, that really was more suspense.

[rinichanraar]

100% agreed. The Saw movies aren't even horror, they're torture porn. I don't really consider what Hitchcock did to be horror, though, that really was more suspense.

This is the impression I get. I've only seen the first and second, but I have a feeling they're not getting any better.

Also, I think it's kind of lame when commercials say stuff like, "You'll never believe how it ends." It's like they're telling us to anticipate a twist. It's like an M. Night Shyamalan movie!

I used to have this theory that the more installments there are in a horror series, the closer they get to just becoming pornos. (Obviously this isn't completely true, but it happens a lot.) Hopefully it hasn't happened to the Saw movies yet.

[AniAko]

I used to have this theory that the more installments there are in a horror series, the closer they get to just becoming pornos.

If Nightmare on Elm Street is porn, lube me up and hand me a latex zipper mask :D

That's an interesting theory. Instantly I thought of series like Child's Play, Friday the 13th, Critters, Goulies, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc. Yay for "Porror"!

[Jeffool]

I absolutely loved Hostel (didn't see the sequel), but for some reason, the Saw franchise is just meh to me.I loved both Hostel films. Eli Roth is win, pure and simple. And while I don't always agree with him, I'd like to link to this excellent review by Matt Cale (http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/reviews.cfm/id/157/page/hostel.html), of Hostel.Speaking of ... this morning, after spending close to four hours getting back up on the Internets, I watched a little film called Dance of the Dead (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0926063/). If anyone is still reading this thread, and hasn't seen it yet (and might be up for something different), please give it a look. It's kind of a comedy, kind of serious; but overall it's a really fun little movie. And it's on DVD, so you can rent it and watch it at your own convenience; but I'm writing this because it's worth everyone here's time.I've watched four of the Ghost House Pictures (http://www.ghosthousepictures.com/ghost-house-underground/lionsgate-home-video/) so far, and I'll finish the set eventually (I've not seen Dance of the Dead,) but I can recommend No Man's Land as well. It's not a classic, but it was fun, and I enjoyed it. (Then again, I enjoyed a good chunk of the "8ftd4" series' as well.)

[Ancalagon]

I think movies like Saw and Hostel are the height of trash, and I hate how some people call them "art". In fact they are worse than trash, they are sickening.

I also think they are FAR worse than any games in terms of violence and gore, because the violence and gore is all gratuitous, there is no rationalization for the violence, and the bad guys often win in the movies.

[AniAko]

I think movies like Saw and Hostel are the height of trash, and I hate how some people call them "art". In fact they are worse than trash, they are sickening.

I also think they are FAR worse than any games in terms of violence and gore, because the violence and gore is all gratuitous, there is no rationalization for the violence, and the bad guys often win in the movies.

Oh noes! Art imitating life, how dare they! I think they're a nice reminder to people that suburbia is an accomplishment of civilization and man-made systems can never fully replace or eliminate the carnal, instinctual tendencies of human nature.

[skwish]

The reason that the SAW movies will never die is that they make money hand over fucking fist.

They would have to seriously bomb at the box office AND on DVD to lose money. comparitively the saw movies can raise enough money each year to make the next one with just having a damned bake sale in the studio lot

[Dave]

I've watched four of the Ghost House Pictures (http://www.ghosthousepictures.com/ghost-house-underground/lionsgate-home-video/) so far, and I'll finish the set eventually (I've not seen Dance of the Dead,) but I can recommend No Man's Land as well. It's not a classic, but it was fun, and I enjoyed it. (Then again, I enjoyed a good chunk of the "8ftd4" series' as well.)

Cool. I'll have to keep an eye out for that the next time I'm at the video store (I wish I'd read this post earlier today, before going in to town).

It's not out on DVD yet, but The Midnight Meat Train was another great horror movie that cam out this year. Definitely keep an eye out for that one in a few months when it's released. There's nothing funny or silly about it at all. It's just a full-on, serious terror film... and I thought that it was pretty cool.

Question for those that don't dig on the Saw films, do you like any other horror movies, and if so... which ones are you a fan of? I'm just curious, because I'm not a HUGE Saw fan (I don't think that they're terrible though, save for that fourth film), but I do love Tobe Hooper's Texas Chainsaw Massacre.