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Xydarc
04-27-2010, 09:07 AM
For only $5.99 (http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/master_of_magic). Run, don't walk and get it while it's hot and fresh. I've already purchased, downloaded, installed, and started a game.:D

J Arcane
04-27-2010, 09:46 AM
Bought. It's Civ + Magic, how can you not?

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 10:59 AM
If there was ever a game that needed a remake/sequel this is that game.

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 11:10 AM
If there was ever a game that needed a remake/sequel this is that game.

Stardock has heard your prayers. (http://elementalgame.com/):)

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 11:41 AM
Stardock has heard your prayers. (http://elementalgame.com/):)

I've been keeping my eye on that one for a some time now. I would love to get my hands on it to see how it really plays. At least it is being done by a studio I have some faith in.

The worst thing is that it is slated to be release right around Civ 5. How am I supposed to divide my time between them?

mightbe
04-27-2010, 11:41 AM
Easy, Civ 5 will get delayed.

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 11:45 AM
Easy, Civ 5 will get delayed.

I hate you. Mostly because you're right.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 12:34 PM
So, how well has MoM aged? I can get over cludgy graphics, but cludgy gameplay is harder to forgive.

Clark
04-27-2010, 12:49 PM
I have never tried this and always wanted to......

I think I'll wait for Serapth's question to be answered though.

CappinCanuck
04-27-2010, 01:18 PM
So, how well has MoM aged? I can get over cludgy graphics, but cludgy gameplay is harder to forgive.

What is cludgy?

It works about as well as any 1994 game. The gameplay mechanics work as it did back then. It responds quickly, quicker than i remember it doing back then :).

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 01:20 PM
So, how well has MoM aged? I can get over cludgy graphics, but cludgy gameplay is harder to forgive.

The overall gameplay holds up surprisingly well. You might be able to nitpick a few old UI decisions, and of course MoM was infamous for being a little buggy but not necessarily game breaking.

The final verdict is it is still damn fun to play, and that is what counts.

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 02:26 PM
The overall gameplay holds up surprisingly well. You might be able to nitpick a few old UI decisions, and of course MoM was infamous for being a little buggy but not necessarily game breaking.

The final verdict is it is still damn fun to play, and that is what counts.
This is what I'm finding. That great turn-based gameplay is fully intact. The awesome thing about these games is back then, you had to have great gameplay as graphics back then were kinda awful.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 02:33 PM
BTW, are any of you playing it now, using a 64bit OS, specifically Win7? Old DOS games have been giving me trouble on Win7 64bit, the last I tried was Warlords 3 and that was a clusterf*ck.

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 02:38 PM
BTW, are any of you playing it now, using a 64bit OS, specifically Win7? Old DOS games have been giving me trouble on Win7 64bit, the last I tried was Warlords 3 and that was a clusterf*ck.

Hmm, I'm running 64Bit Windows 7, and I've got it sitting around here, I'll give it a shot and report back.

Are you using a DosBox style emulation to play it, or are you just trying to play things straight?

EDIT: Hmm, I just realized you were probably referring to the GoG release version. Since I already own it and have played it before in DosBox I didn't think about it. I can't speak for GoG, but I will let you know about just regular DosBox running the original version of the game and if that works I'm sure the GoG version does.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 02:40 PM
Hmm, I'm running 64Bit Windows 7, and I've got it sitting around here, I'll give it a shot and report back.

Are you using a DosBox style emulation to play it, or are you just trying to play things straight?

Both in that case, only really had trouble with Mechwarrior 2 and Warlords.

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 03:19 PM
Both in that case, only really had trouble with Mechwarrior 2 and Warlords.

It started up without any problems for me in DosBox .73 (with sound and mouse). The only issue I'm having is getting it to run in full screen mode without some graphical issues. I would have responded sooner, but I got sucked in and couldn't stop playing.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 03:32 PM
Ugh, already have half a dozen games on my plate, then have bargains for this and X3 to decide between.... Thanks for the info Shadowmage, what are those graphical issues, btw?

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 03:36 PM
BTW, are any of you playing it now, using a 64bit OS, specifically Win7? Old DOS games have been giving me trouble on Win7 64bit, the last I tried was Warlords 3 and that was a clusterf*ck.
Works great for me and I have Win 7 Pro 64-bit.

Edit: The GoG version also uses DosBOX, but so far it's been stable. No bugs/issues in the 30 min play session I had at lunch.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 03:38 PM
Works great for me and I have Win 7 Pro 64-bit.

Didn't need DosBox?

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 03:38 PM
Ugh, already have half a dozen games on my plate, then have bargains for this and X3 to decide between.... Thanks for the info Shadowmage, what are those graphical issues, btw?

I'm thinking that is just my system and my current dosbox config at the moment, as it seems to be with all games I try and run full screen. I wouldn't worry about it and reference Xydarc's success as a backup point to mine.

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 04:00 PM
Didn't need DosBox?
The GoG version does use DosBOX. However, it is...self-contained? It seems to be pre-configured, and I haven't had any issues yet.

Hawkzombie
04-27-2010, 04:16 PM
you CAN adjust the config file if you absolutely need to. I tweaked my Stonekeep one not because I had to, but because I wanted to.

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 04:42 PM
you CAN adjust the config file if you absolutely need to. I tweaked my Stonekeep one not because I had to, but because I wanted to.
I was not aware of this. My experience with DosBOX is limited.

Hawkzombie
04-27-2010, 04:52 PM
I personally use D-Fend GUI for DosBox myself, which makes it a LOT easier to adjust the settings as needed. But a quick google search will get you to the DosBox Wiki and explanations of what everything does.

ClannerDelta
04-27-2010, 05:03 PM
MoM and Moo use the same setup for me. Launching DosBox automatically and running perfectly fine on my 64 bit Win7 install.

I can't give you much more info than that, though. As I can't remember using DosBox before. I keep an old ass computer setup with an old ass joystick for Mechwarrior/old flight sims. :p

Panthera
04-27-2010, 05:05 PM
Strangely enough... I've had a lot of luck playing old-ass flight sims with modern joysticks. More luck than playing 'flight sims' that were made for console controllers and ported to PC.

J Arcane
04-27-2010, 05:24 PM
MoM from GoG works fine on my Win7 64-bit machine. I did have trouble figuring out how to get past the logo screen and on to the menu the first time though.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 05:26 PM
I've never purchased from GoG, does it allow you to log in later and redownload like Steam or GamersGate or is it anti consumer and complete bullshit like iTunes?

J Arcane
04-27-2010, 05:28 PM
I've never purchased from GoG, does it allow you to log in later and redownload like Steam or GamersGate or is it anti consumer and complete bullshit like iTunes?
You can redownload any time you like, and the games have no DRM of any kind. They're also all guaranteed to work with Windows Vista and the like.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 05:30 PM
You can redownload any time you like, and the games have no DRM of any kind. They're also all guaranteed to work with Windows Vista and the like.

Nice, and no client needed, or is there a steam like download?

Ghostbear
04-27-2010, 05:31 PM
You can use their client or download with your browser. They also include pdfs of the manual, soundtracks and other goodies.

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 05:31 PM
Nice, and no client needed, or is there a steam like download?
No client. They do have a downloader, but there is no Steam- or Impulse-like client. You download a stand-alone executable to install the game. Plus, GoG gives you manuals, reference cards, wallpapers, soundtracks, etc.

Ghostbear
04-27-2010, 05:32 PM
No client. You download a stand-alone executable. Plus, GoG gives you manuals, reference cards, wallpapers, soundtracks, etc.

Beat you sucka!

c0m3d14n
04-27-2010, 05:38 PM
If there was ever a game that needed a remake/sequel this is that game.

sadly no one except me voted for it in the "Top 5 Games you would most like to see updated" thread ;)

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 05:59 PM
sadly no one except me voted for it in the "Top 5 Games you would most like to see updated" thread ;)

Stardock has heard your prayers. (http://elementalgame.com/):)
This is why.;)

Xydarc
04-27-2010, 06:00 PM
Beat you sucka!
Dammit!:mad:

Serapth
04-27-2010, 06:11 PM
Kewl, your order is complete


Really Gog, really? I mean, I can appreciate that they are going for a spot of humour and geekdom there, but it really isn't what you want to see when shopping online.


That said, i've got it. If its horrible Im holding Shadow personally responsible. I actually had the manual kicking around forever, but I think I threw it out a few months ago. :(

zarathstra
04-27-2010, 09:53 PM
Wooooooo! I've been waiting for this. But I also just got the Starcraft II beta. Dammit...

Serapth
04-27-2010, 09:54 PM
God this game is ugly. I kinda wish I had a CRT monitor around as on my widescreen laptop screen, the text is damned near unreadable. I have noticed something missing from "those days" that I expect as a norm.... tooltips on everything you mouse over.

J Arcane
04-27-2010, 10:03 PM
If you go into the game folder, you can find DOSbox .conf files for the game, and you can use them to tweak settings. There's usually also a config program in the start menu that lets you change a few things.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 10:07 PM
If you go into the game folder, you can find DOSbox .conf files for the game, and you can use them to tweak settings. There's usually also a config program in the start menu that lets you change a few things.

What have you tweaked to make it look better?

J Arcane
04-27-2010, 10:23 PM
What have you tweaked to make it look better?

Try running it in a window.

Also, you might also try seeing if you can change the scaling to not stretch to fit the widescreen.

I don't know DOSbox .conf well anymore, so I couldn't tell you how to do this, but they might help make it more pleasant on the eyes.

Shadowmage952
04-27-2010, 10:34 PM
What have you tweaked to make it look better?

Yeah, that is one reason why I didn't really mind so much when I couldn't run it in full screen. On monitors the size we have now, with widescreen, those older games can really look bad at times.

I never really have had much problem with the old school graphics and tend to enjoy the nostalgic feel of it all, but it is amazing how much better it looks on an older CRT versus newer displays.

Hotcod
04-27-2010, 10:37 PM
If you are looking for these kind of tips go to the GOG forum for the game you'll tend to find a lot of info about how to make the game look/run better and any work around. Probably won't be all that much at this stage but anything that's been done for the game in the fan community and all the tweeks and stuff from there will end up posted at some point.

jpublic
04-27-2010, 10:38 PM
Yeah, change the scaler to HQ3x and it's fine.

Serapth
04-27-2010, 10:51 PM
Yeah, change the scaler to HQ3x and it's fine.

Actually I did that and suddenly audio started skipping and my cursor went seriously ugly. Set to windowed and its a quite a bit better to look at.

MagGnome
04-28-2010, 07:29 AM
I might grab this at some point, but to be honest I've always thought that the Age of Wonders games were the best fantasy-themed TBS series out there. How does MoM compare?

Age of Wonders also has the advantage of being newer and a little more friendly on modern systems.

Serapth
04-28-2010, 08:41 AM
MoM is older, uglier, less friendly and deeper. It sadly hasnt really been duplicated yet, but Age of Wonders owes a heavy debt to MoM.

This comment from the wiki should sum it up:


Master of Magic was inducted into GameSpy's Hall of Fame in 2000,[13] citing it as a visually stunning game with "enduring replayability" due to its randomness, and large variety of spells. They also credited the game as being more popular than Master of Orion, and responsible for making Steve Barcia and Simtex household names.[14] Computer Gaming World also inducted Master of Magic into its Hall of Fame in 2005.[15] Its impression on the gaming community can be evidenced by it being referenced as a representative product of Microprose in gaming reviews.[16][17] Even Alan Emrich, the coiner of the 4X genre, has listed Master of Magic as his number one game of all time.[18] Due to Master of Magic's impact on the fantasy turn-based strategy genre, the Age of Wonders series, which were almost identical in gameplay, tend to be put up against it in their reviews,[19][20] even though Lennart Sas, Age of Wonders's lead designer has stated the games having differences with each other.[21]

Shadowmage952
04-28-2010, 09:41 AM
MoM is older, uglier, less friendly and deeper. It sadly hasnt really been duplicated yet, but Age of Wonders owes a heavy debt to MoM.

This comment from the wiki should sum it up:

I remember really looking forward to Age of Wonders hoping it would be a spiritual successor to MoM, and I think that is why I left AoW so disappointed. Not because it was a bad game, but because it wasn't what I was hoping for.

This has forced a high level of trepidation for Elemental as well, but everything I'm seeing about the game does make it look like it is trying really hard.

That's why I'm of the opinion that MoM is one of the best games in need of a faithful update. The core design is sound and still a hell of a lot of fun, but the interface, graphics, and old components could use a serious overhaul.


EDIT:

Due to Master of Magic's impact on the fantasy turn-based strategy genre, the Age of Wonders series, which were almost identical in gameplay

I highly disagree with this statement

jpublic
04-28-2010, 10:25 AM
Anyone who says that AoW and MoM were identical in gameplay (or even clost to it) needs to have their head examined.

The closest I ever had to the experience I had with MoM in a game that came since was Lords of Magic.

Panthera
04-28-2010, 11:23 AM
I might grab this at some point, but to be honest I've always thought that the Age of Wonders games were the best fantasy-themed TBS series out there. How does MoM compare?

Age of Wonders also has the advantage of being newer and a little more friendly on modern systems.

Age of Wonders is a fantasy wargame with some light city-building aspects, Master of Magic is Civ scale - the rise and fall of whole civilizations. Different sort of game entirely.

I prefer AoW overall, but I'm a wargame nerd.

jpublic
04-28-2010, 02:34 PM
Age of Wonders is a fantasy wargame with some light city-building aspects, Master of Magic is Civ scale - the rise and fall of whole civilizations. Different sort of game entirely.

I prefer AoW overall, but I'm a wargame nerd.

Well put. That's my problem with AoW. It's a wargame, not a Civ-type game.

MagGnome
04-28-2010, 09:07 PM
Age of Wonders is a fantasy wargame with some light city-building aspects, Master of Magic is Civ scale - the rise and fall of whole civilizations. Different sort of game entirely.

I prefer AoW overall, but I'm a wargame nerd.

Thank you. I had no idea they were so different. I used to rave about Age of Wonders (I still do sometimes) and someone always has to chime in and tell me that MoM is "better", as if that's a fact.

Now that I know they are quite different I'll probably give MoM a try sometime soon.


I remember really looking forward to Age of Wonders hoping it would be a spiritual successor to MoM, and I think that is why I left AoW so disappointed. Not because it was a bad game, but because it wasn't what I was hoping for.

Even if they are different games, Age of Wonders has a lot to offer. The first one is fun, but the second game is a huge improvement in every way. I personally love Shadow Magic (basically AoW 2.5) the most, but it's a lot harder than 2.

Damn, now I want to reinstall Shadow Magic again.

CappinCanuck
05-02-2010, 11:40 AM
Thank you. I had no idea they were so different. I used to rave about Age of Wonders (I still do sometimes) and someone always has to chime in and tell me that MoM is "better", as if that's a fact.

Now that I know they are quite different I'll probably give MoM a try sometime soon.




Even if they are different games, Age of Wonders has a lot to offer. The first one is fun, but the second game is a huge improvement in every way. I personally love Shadow Magic (basically AoW 2.5) the most, but it's a lot harder than 2.

Damn, now I want to reinstall Shadow Magic again.

MoM is better.



:cool:

Clark
05-02-2010, 04:23 PM
Thank you. I had no idea they were so different. I used to rave about Age of Wonders (I still do sometimes) and someone always has to chime in and tell me that MoM is "better", as if that's a fact.

Now that I know they are quite different I'll probably give MoM a try sometime soon.


Damn it, Gnome. I was hoping you had some input on MoM. I am so tempted....

CappinCanuck
05-02-2010, 05:32 PM
Damn it, Gnome. I was hoping you had some input on MoM. I am so tempted....

No input needed really. It's a fantastic game. I would jump all over it if you're confident that you can play a game with early 90s graphics. That's pretty much it. If the graphics aren't holding you back, go grab it.

I played it to death in the 90s and don't like playing old games. I'm not in GoG's market at all :D. I find more old games never live up to the nostalgia so I prefer just to let them sit.

Arphahat
05-02-2010, 06:08 PM
I'll say that I was such a fan that, when I discovered they weren't doing anything else with it and wanted to mod it, I contacted Microprose and asked if they'd consider releasing the source code so that I could try to get it working. When they declined, I tried using Visual C++ 5 to hack it. I didn't get far, but the point is that I fucking loved that game.

MagGnome
05-02-2010, 06:22 PM
No input needed really.

My input is always needed. :p

DiBiddilyBop
05-02-2010, 06:22 PM
MoM is definitely in my top 3 games of all time. I still have the original disks and have had it on every PC I've owned since it came out. It's timeless and, IMHO, has yet to be topped in 4x games (I much prefer it to the Civ series).

Clark
05-05-2010, 09:09 PM
I broke down and bought it.

I'm lazy on gin.

How do I transport troops across the sea? I built a trieme, but it seems to not be a transport.

jpublic
05-05-2010, 10:40 PM
A trireme(sp) is a transport.

The thing to remember is that you can only have 9 units on a tile, and the ship counts. So you can only have the ship move 8 units. If you try to move a full 9-unit stack on the ship, it balks.

Clark
05-09-2010, 12:32 PM
Thanks, jpublic!

Anyone on the fence about buying it: Do it. I'm digging it.

MagGnome
05-09-2010, 02:10 PM
I'm definitely going to buy it once I have the time to play it. It sounds like fun!

Serapth
05-09-2010, 03:30 PM
I bought it, but frankly, I haven't really gotten into it that much. Its just that archaic and ugly, that I don't know if I can overlook the warts for such a jewel underneath.

Especially with all the great specials that have gone through Steam lately. My backlist of games is easily double digits, including Mass Effect 2, TorchLight, DoW2:Chaos Rising, Dragon Age, and classics like X3, Civ4 and a few others just waiting for play.

Arphahat
05-09-2010, 03:35 PM
I bought it, but frankly, I haven't really gotten into it that much. Its just that archaic and ugly, that I don't know if I can overlook the warts for such a jewel underneath.

Especially with all the great specials that have gone through Steam lately. My backlist of games is easily double digits, including Mass Effect 2, TorchLight, DoW2:Chaos Rising, Dragon Age, and classics like X3, Civ4 and a few others just waiting for play.

It does seem like one that you'd have to have played when it was new to get into it. I'd suggest trying a couple short games, just to see, but don't force it if it isn't there.

Serapth
05-09-2010, 03:57 PM
It does seem like one that you'd have to have played when it was new to get into it. I'd suggest trying a couple short games, just to see, but don't force it if it isn't there.

I played it when it was new, I had found memories which is why I bought it when this thread was announced. I think i'll just say it was a wasted 5$ and pray Elemental lives up to the hype.

J Arcane
05-09-2010, 04:06 PM
It does seem like one that you'd have to have played when it was new to get into it. I'd suggest trying a couple short games, just to see, but don't force it if it isn't there.
I don't agree. I didn't discover MoM until 2005, and I still think it's the best fantasy Civ game that's yet been attempted.

As for Elemental, we'll see. GalCiv was fun, but flawed, and honestly I think MoO2 was better. And there again, I discovered that one around the same time I discovered MoM.

Clark
05-09-2010, 04:33 PM
I'm just now playing it for the first time. The graphics ARE ugly, but the price is right for a fantasy civ game. I really like the random heroes and units that offer to join your army.

It makes me giddy for Elemental. My hopes are high.

MagGnome
05-09-2010, 05:25 PM
Especially with all the great specials that have gone through Steam lately. My backlist of games is easily double digits, including Mass Effect 2, TorchLight, DoW2:Chaos Rising, Dragon Age, and classics like X3, Civ4 and a few others just waiting for play.

Double digits? Pfft, amateur!

Serapth
05-09-2010, 05:35 PM
Double digits? Pfft, amateur!

Thats double digits of "Yet to be played" not "Yet to be finished" games!

MagGnome
05-09-2010, 06:31 PM
Thats double digits of "Yet to be played" not "Yet to be finished" games!

I'd hate to add up how many of my Steam games I haven't played at all. If I also included disc-based PC games and console games, I'd likely break triple digits.

Serapth
05-09-2010, 06:36 PM
I'd hate to add up how many of my Steam games I haven't played at all. If I also included disc-based PC games and console games, I'd likely break triple digits.

You sir then, are showing traits of being obsessive compulsive.

MagGnome
05-09-2010, 09:00 PM
Really, you think? :p

If I have any sort of mental issue, it's definitely OCD.

RandoM51
05-10-2010, 08:29 AM
RandoM51's list of MoM cheese:

1. Cracks Call. Get rid of any pesky hero the computer has been building up for turns with one simple spell. Counter: Make sure your heroes fly/levitate.

2. Invisible unit/flying versus non-flying/non-missile. You can send in just one of these and the enemy does nothing because they can't see it/can't hit it. Gives you a full duration combat to beat them up with magic while taking no damage yourself. Counter: Non-targeted spells(like magic vortex and call lightning).

3. Torin.

I just started remembering these, maybe I'll come up with more.

jpublic
05-10-2010, 09:08 AM
Other cheese:

1) Paladins + Invulnerability.
2) Hell, any unit with Invulnerability.

MagGnome
05-10-2010, 07:46 PM
Cheese? :confused:

jpublic
05-10-2010, 10:59 PM
Stupidly powerful unbalancing unity.

Anti-Cheese: Klackons. In general.

Clark
05-11-2010, 01:04 PM
I'm noticing that races such as the lizardmen don't build shipyards and merely walk across water. What happens when you hire heroes and units that aren't lizardmen? Are they stuck on the continent?

jpublic
05-11-2010, 02:21 PM
Yup. They're stuck. Makes that Blue Magic spell that allows everyone in a stack to fly seem pretty awesome, doesn't it?

Clark
05-11-2010, 03:33 PM
Blah. That's weak. Seems like a horrible flaw.

Shadowmage952
05-11-2010, 03:50 PM
Blah. That's weak. Seems like a horrible flaw.

There are a variety of means of getting heroes from one continent to another if you are the lizardmen.

1. Very rarely have I only had one race of towns. Take over any other city that desn't have lizardmen and use them to build the boat.

2. There are plenty of spells which allow the traversal of water (flying, water walking, a few others that I don't know off the top of my head). Almost every type of mage will get one of those spells. If I'm not mistaken there is even a spell that can transport your units between your cities.

3. Use your lizardmen to travel to another continent that has a different race if the one your on doesn't, and take that city over.

4. Go through a wizard's tower and traverse that way. You should be able to find another wizard tower to go through and it will likely be on a different land mass

In all honesty, I don't really remember having to use boats almost at all for travel in that game. More often than not I would use some form of transportation spell to handle that for me.

Clark
05-11-2010, 04:30 PM
Yes!

Very, very good ideas. I'm too new to the game to have realized them.

Thanks!

MagGnome
05-11-2010, 06:01 PM
The more you guys talk about this game, the more it sounds like Age of Wonders to me. :p

Eventually I'll have to play it and discover the differences for myself.

Arphahat
05-11-2010, 07:37 PM
The more you guys talk about this game, the more it sounds like Age of Wonders to me. :p

Eventually I'll have to play it and discover the differences for myself.

It has a similar vibe to Age of Wonders, but it plays more like Civ with magic.

CappinCanuck
05-11-2010, 08:00 PM
I bought it, but frankly, I haven't really gotten into it that much. Its just that archaic and ugly, that I don't know if I can overlook the warts for such a jewel underneath.

Especially with all the great specials that have gone through Steam lately. My backlist of games is easily double digits, including Mass Effect 2, TorchLight, DoW2:Chaos Rising, Dragon Age, and classics like X3, Civ4 and a few others just waiting for play.

I played it when it was new, I had found memories which is why I bought it when this thread was announced. I think i'll just say it was a wasted 5$ and pray Elemental lives up to the hype.

You just echoed all my concerns that caused me to not to pick it up. Glad I made the right call.

Arphahat
05-13-2010, 11:03 AM
You guys talking about this has got me itching to play it again. I know I have the original discs around, but help me out: was this game on CD or 3.5" floppies?

CappinCanuck
05-13-2010, 01:40 PM
You guys talking about this has got me itching to play it again. I know I have the original discs around, but help me out: was this game on CD or 3.5" floppies?

Both actually, but most people had it on floppy. It was one of those 6-10 floppy games :D

jpublic
05-13-2010, 01:52 PM
I actually have an original boxed Floppy version of this game. :D

Arphahat
05-13-2010, 05:51 PM
Hmm... in my searches, I found a jewel case that I had hand labeled "Master of Magic." I don't know if it was a copy of the 3.5" I transferred, or the original that came in some stupid sleeve. Either way, it is missing. So, now I'm off to look for old CD wallet things. Fun. :)

Arphahat
05-13-2010, 07:50 PM
Yay, I found it. Had it on CD.

I remember someone mentioning a GUI frontend that they like for DosBox, but don't recall its name. Anyone know?

GrenMag
05-14-2010, 03:34 PM
D-Fend Reloaded (http://dfendreloaded.sourceforge.net/) is what I use and quite happily at that.

Arphahat
05-14-2010, 04:06 PM
D-Fend Reloaded (http://dfendreloaded.sourceforge.net/) is what I use and quite happily at that.

Thanks! I did find that and used it last night, but forgot to follow up here.

Techfiend
06-01-2010, 09:31 PM
I remember loading up on white magic books, getting Torin, plane shifting him to Myrror, and then casting planar seal. Once I'd captured a town, I'd move my summoning circle there, and loot the whole place, with 1 hero and my guardian spirits. At that point, you're swimming in mana, and regardless of the difficulty level you're playing on, the whole game is ex-mode, since Torin is effectively invincible. Especially since you can just re-cast him if someone hits him with Crack's Call.

jpublic
06-02-2010, 12:12 AM
Torin is so ludicrous I intentionally try to not play with him if I'm all white. Although Paladins+Invincibility are a close second.

Techfiend
06-05-2010, 06:13 PM
Torin is so ludicrous I intentionally try to not play with him if I'm all white. Although Paladins+Invincibility are a close second.

Yeah, but at least you have to work to get to Paladins.

Catwalk
06-10-2010, 09:09 AM
While it's not a full remake, we're busily working on two ambitious projects at dragonsword.com a new MoM community site which started up a year ago.

kyrub's patch, Insecticide, aims to improve AI + interface and squash most known bugs. He's made great progress and expects to be done with the main part of it in the next couple months. A functional version has been released with several

My own mod, Project Catnip, aims to extensive rebalance the game while staying true to the origin. The first version, which will be released end of June, will have stat changes to units and buildings. Subsequent versions will edit several game mechanics (with the help of kyrub), such as spell functions, economy system, movement, world creation and the like.

We also have a forum with active discussions and are currently running a small tournament. Hope you'll come check us out :) If you do, please take a minute to register and drop us a line. Thanks in advance!

Shadowmage952
06-10-2010, 10:18 AM
While it's not a full remake, we're busily working on two ambitious projects at Dragon Sword, a new MoM community site which started up a year ago (google for dragon sword master of magic, not sure if I'm allowed to post links here).

kyrub's patch, Insecticide, aims to improve AI + interface and squash most known bugs. He's made great progress and expects to be done with the main part of it in the next couple months. A functional version has been released with several

My own mod, Project Catnip, aims to extensive rebalance the game while staying true to the origin. The first version, which will be released end of June, will have stat changes to units and buildings. Subsequent versions will edit several game mechanics (with the help of kyrub), such as spell functions, economy system, movement, world creation and the like.

We also have a forum with active discussions and are currently running a small tournament. Hope you'll come check us out, and that I won't get banned here for advertising a little bit :)


Thanks for the resource, Catwalk. There is a solid collection of MoM information there, and I particularly like the files you have available there. There is certainly no problem posting a link to a site like that here, at least to the best of my knowledge. I look forward to some of those mods you guys are working on.

Catwalk
06-10-2010, 11:01 AM
Thanks, I'll add the link :)

CappinCanuck
06-10-2010, 02:09 PM
Thanks, I'll add the link :)

Elemental needs a cutscene where your guy/gal stands at the top of some giant tower raining death down on everyone :P It really wouldn't be a spiritual successor without it.

It's my most iconic memory of MoM...

http://dragonsword.com/magic/master2.png

MagGnome
06-12-2010, 10:28 AM
I really need to stop reading this thread. :p

Every time it pops up in my subscription list I'm tempted to buy this game. How can I do that with Elemental right around the corner?

Catwalk
06-12-2010, 10:46 AM
Progress on my mod is coming along nicely, still expecting to have the first version out by the end of the month. I could really use more feedback, drop by http://www.dragonsword.com/forum/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=10 if you wish to help out.

Catwalk
07-02-2010, 03:40 PM
Final version of kyrub's patch has been uploaded, you can get it here (http://www.dragonsword.com/forum/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=116). Get it while it's hot!