Looking For Specific Strategy Games

[Adam Blue]

I really dig base-building RTS's, and figure I've played them all. Once I'm done with the single-player and some AI battles, I move on. I don't mind CoH (one of my favs), but after playing DoW2, I prefer more squad management. Though, the almost non-existent base-building in DoW2 is a low-point for me.

I tried SupCom1/2, but it's very plain. Very little variety outside of the upgrade paths, which I like. C&C 4 is horrible. World in Conflict was also boring. very little managing of the few units you get and no base-building. I do not understand the appeal. Maybe the simplicity?

Strategy games I like:
C&C/Red Alert Games minus 4
Act of War
WarCraft 3 (though, the unit cap is way too small)
CoH
DoW Games
DoWII (though, I would prefer more base-building)
SoaSE (would have loved a story-driven campaign, also not a big fan of the huge zoomed-out feel)
Spellforce 1/2 (the RPG and RTS-sides are weak on their own, but work decent together)

Any others out there similar to these? I've been scouring Steam, but I'm sure there are more outside of that. Also, Steam's browse function blows. If I'm on page 5 of 20 checking out a game, the back button takes me to page 1. Lame.

[AversionFX]

Doesn't really sound like your thing, but: Sword of the Stars. What it lacks in actual base-building, it has in scores of upgrade paths, fleet management and ship design. Large-scale games require a lot of management as far as your fleets, their maintenance/upkeep, your technology path (which changes every game) as well as the management of the planets you are colonizing.

It's also turn-based, which is a turn off to some. Plays similarly to Sins of a Solar Empire.

[OrangePulp]

Not to grind the knife in the wound, but... you should be covered around June, if it's any consolation. Honestly I can't think of much else than what you listed. Didn't C&C 4 completely move away from the oldschool style? I see SC2 getting flack for not innovating, bullshit like that, but it seems like it'll be one of the last true oldschool RTS games.

[kyrieee]

A game that might not be what you think you're looking for but a game that I always recommend to people is Myth II: Soulblighter

It does not have base building but it is extremely focused on tactics. In most missions you don't control a lot of units (usually one or two dozen) but you face a huge amount of enemy units. The difference between managing your units correctly and failing to do so can be as extreme as surviving an encounter without taking any damage or losing half of your men. Tactics is more important than any other game I can think of, I highly recommend it!

It's very old though, but its mod community has kept it running on modern machines and there's a high res pack for it too

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[Loki]

Order of War

[Adam Blue]

Order of War

I tried Order of War, but it felt like a watered down CoH. IS there a reason I should go back and put more time into it?

And yes, I've played Myth II. Great game.

As for SC2, I'll be all over that, but I'm afraid it won't offer me anything new. I really do think this specific genre is a dying breed. RUSE (makers of Act of War) was fun in beta, but I don't like the map controls. I like to be down in there with the units and don't really like the Risk-style map.

[Ancalagon]

The original Dawn of War has base building in it, its a very good game.

[Adam Blue]

The original Dawn of War has base building in it, its a very good game.

Yeah, they're in the OP. They are a very good example of what I love in RTS games, especially with the stances and whatnot. If they could combine Act of War, DoW, and DoW2 , that could be the ultimate RTS.