Smartest bird I have ever seen!

[carnage11]

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This just amazes me. I mean I knew birds were intelligent. Being able to think logically like this though? This bird is better at fishing than most people I know! :D

Nature never ceases to amaze me. :cool:

[diablopath]

Just because nobody else has posted, I decided I will stand in solidarity with you.

Nature is awesome.

[ClannerDelta]

He's like the Bird Jesus, he turns Bread into Fish.

[Wasson_]

this prompted me to watch a bunch of videos on smart crows and ravens.

[Handmade.Mercury]

The commentator is the best.

[Kelegacy]

Evolution/adaptation is awesome, especially being witnessed in the animal world.

[Krispy]

It's kind of a stretch to say logic was involved but this certainly is cool.

[carnage11]

It's kind of a stretch to say logic was involved but this certainly is cool.

You don't think? The bird could have just eaten the bread, but instead it chose to get fish with it. It also knows to keep placing the bread out in the water when it floats into the shore. Every time I feed birds with bread or whatever, I've never seen one take the food and then proceed to use it as bait! Too cool. :cool:

[Krispy]

It's kind of hard to put your finger on where critical reasoning starts and darwinism ends since no one can ask the bird why it places the bread out into the water. It's really tempting to project intelligence onto the bird because it seems to be acting in a way in which we can relate to just like you project minds onto other people just because they seem to be acting in ways which you do and therefore correlating to having a mind. I however doubt the bird deduced this fishing strategy and isn't merely acting off a copycat state which is actually really common to find with birds.

[MagGnome]

That is a great video. Thanks for sharing!

Wait, I thought animals were incapable of thought or emotion? :p

[Krispy]

Depending on your theory of mind, so are people. :whistle:

[DangerousDaze]

Crows are where it's at.

2PmkreJHw4k

This one's incredible.

AeQppJmOWJA

People used to think that it's human's ability to make and use tools that set us apart from other animals. Not so!

[JayVe]

Wow!

I say wow!

Thanks! The Mrs. and I really enjoyed it. Clever bird! And the commentator is excellent as well. :D

[Krispy]

The Baldwin Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_effect) may be of interest to those impressed by their behavior.

[Inspector Fowler]

Wow!

I say wow!

Thanks! The Mrs. and I really enjoyed it. Clever bird! And the commentator is excellent as well. :D

Yeah, I always sound breathy and lame on camcorder, this guy sounds like a fun grandpa kind of person who would always be showing you cool stuff.

[Sazime]

It's kind of hard to put your finger on where critical reasoning starts and darwinism ends since no one can ask the bird why it places the bread out into the water. It's really tempting to project intelligence onto the bird because it seems to be acting in a way in which we can relate to just like you project minds onto other people just because they seem to be acting in ways which you do and therefore correlating to having a mind. I however doubt the bird deduced this fishing strategy and isn't merely acting off a copycat state which is actually really common to find with birds.
Welcome to the problem of scientific observation. As the man said, instead of recording exactly what the dog is doing, the scientist is actually recording the effect the dog's actions have on himself.

[Krispy]

Preaching to the choir, my friend. I'm applying to grad school for Philosophy of Biology. ;)

[Sazime]

Preaching to the choir, my friend. I'm applying to grad school for Philosophy of Biology. ;)
Hahah, nice! I'm a fan of philosophy, not educated in it. :) I find that kind of esoteric thought fascinating.

[Expugnare]

My parrot does this with food to bait the dog under his cage so that he can either, A) hang from the bottom and bite his tail or B) take a massive crap on the dog's back. This bird is pure evil little bastard.

[Laughing Penguin]

The Baldwin Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_effect) may be of interest to those impressed by their behavior.

Is that the theory that explains how Alec Baldwin can actually act, and yet we have a whole group of his brothers that try to imitate that talent with little success? Some sort of genetic tendency for imitation of positive traits... fascinating.

[Karak]

That was awesome.
Personally I like to project intelligence onto random animals because random humans are far less intelligent than that fucking bird.

[muddi900]

Crows are where it's at.

2PmkreJHw4k

This one's incredible.

AeQppJmOWJA

People used to think that it's human's ability to make and use tools that set us apart from other animals. Not so!

It always gets me when Americans call Pidgeons 'Rats with wings'. Rats are quite smart and Pidgeons are stupid as shit. Crows on the other hand, are motherfuckers.

Fun Fact: Scarecrows are useless after a few days, because crows always catch-up. Farmers have to add wind chimes.

[Krispy]

Hahah, nice! I'm a fan of philosophy, not educated in it. :) I find that kind of esoteric thought fascinating.

Hey, I think it's far less esoteric than talking about myosin-6 clathirin interactions or epinephrine MAP cascades. Did I mention I'm also a molecular biology major?

[Sazime]

Hey, I think it's far less esoteric than talking about myosin-6 clathirin interactions or epinephrine MAP cascades. Did I mention I'm also a molecular biology major?
Now we've gone from talking about birds to talking crazy. Crazy!

[Vigil80]

Welcome to the problem of scientific observation. As the man said, instead of recording exactly what the dog is doing, the scientist is actually recording the effect the dog's actions have on himself.
Our parade: you guys are raining on it. ;)

[Kelegacy]

My parrot does this with food to bait the dog under his cage so that he can either, A) hang from the bottom and bite his tail or B) take a massive crap on the dog's back. This bird is pure evil little bastard.

He's a bird...in a cage. I'd be malicious too if I had wings but I was confined to a cage!

[Expugnare]

He's a bird...in a cage. I'd be malicious too if I had wings but I was confined to a cage!
This again? *sigh*

He isn't malicious, he finds it fun to mess with the dog, just like when he imitates my mother calling the dog to dog out so it will come running to the door for no reason. He even laughs in both situations. He doesn't like me nor the dog because he bonded with my brother and father when I was too young to be able to handle him well.

Obviously, he isn't confined to a cage if he is able to bite the dog's tail. More often than not, while we are home, he can roam the house, but prefers to sit on top of the cage and observe and interact with us. All of my birds are domestic animals, no more belonging to nature than a domestic cat or dog. They are not wild captures and have lived their entire lives comfortably taken care of, just like any other domesticated animal.

[diablopath]

This again? *sigh*

He isn't malicious, he finds it fun to mess with the dog, just like when he imitates my mother calling the dog to dog out so it will come running to the door for no reason. He even laughs in both situations. He doesn't like me nor the dog because he bonded with my brother and father when I was too young to be able to handle him well.

Obviously, he isn't confined to a cage if he is able to bite the dog's tail. More often than not, while we are home, he can roam the house, but prefers to sit on top of the cage and observe and interact with us. All of my birds are domestic animals, no more belonging to nature than a domestic cat or dog. They are not wild captures and have lived their entire lives comfortably taken care of, just like any other domesticated animal.

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[MagGnome]

He's a bird...in a cage. I'd be malicious too if I had wings but I was confined to a cage!

I'd warn you not to go down that road, but it looks like I'm too late. :o

[Worldcrafter]

You guys ever see this?
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[carnage11]

Crows are harbingers of death. They have to be smart to murder you.

[OldeWolf]

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[JayVe]

Woah!

I bet other parrot think Alex is a freak.

[Krispy]

You guys ever see this?
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Color me impressed. I hope this guy gets some place with his proposition. Crows are a good counterexample to models of privileged human reasoning. If you go with Aristotle as most modern religions do, then the true mark of a human soul is the capability to reason. One with this view would be forced to admit that in the least, crows have souls too. :D

[carnage11]

Crow Busts Nut in Traffic :p

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[DangerousDaze]

Crow Busts Nut in Traffic :p
Welcome to post #12. ;) (Sorry!)

[MagGnome]

Those are very interesting videos! I think it's silly when humans dismiss all other species as somehow lacking in reason or intelligence when there is so much proof to the contrary.

[Krispy]

It really depends on what your philosophy of what intelligence is. A lot of people feel like humans have privileged access to intelligence.

[MagGnome]

It really depends on what your philosophy of what intelligence is. A lot of people feel like humans have privileged access to intelligence.

A visit to Youtube will quickly disprove that theory. :p

[DangerousDaze]

Here's (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8631486.stm) another clever crow story. This one uses a tool to get to another tool which it then uses to get to the food.