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Raen
10-24-2008, 11:51 AM
Ok I know this thread may well get me set on fire due to the genre that is Emo (is it formally a genre? You guys know what I mean). However Emo is something I enjoy, so there. Anyway I'm starting to do a show on my university's radio station (http://www.urfonline.com) this week. It's called The Callout and I'm doing it with a guy called Chris. He's the station manager, so it shouldn't sound hugely amateur at least. This week we're doing a set on Emo Unplugged, so expect lots of acousticness. I'd love it if some of you were to listen in, just for moral support.

As well as the music we have a short interview with 'We Are The Ocean (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=40280843)' to play out. If any of you are interested the show goes out every Sunday at 9PM UK/GMT, 5PM EDT, 4PM CDT. You can get the stream here (http://urfonline.com:8000/stream96k.mp3) in MP3 format, or go here (http://urfonline.com/web/?q=listen-online) for other streaming solutions.

Hope some of you guys tune in!

Suave Peanut
10-24-2008, 11:53 AM
What kind of emo are we talking here? Like, classic Saves the Day and Jimmy Eat World or that new radio bullshit emo?

Loki_09
10-24-2008, 11:55 AM
What kind of emo are we talking here? Like, classic Saves the Day and Jimmy Eat World or that new radio bullshit emo?

The man has a good point.

Raen
10-24-2008, 12:14 PM
Well for one it depends how broad your definition of emo is. Me and Chris bonded over our love of Bayside and My Awesome Compilation (among others) so that should give you a hint to what we intend to play. His favourite band is Something Corporate, whereas I don't really have a clear favourite but I enjoy My Chemical Romance, Jimmy Eat World, older Fall Out Boy (Take This to Your Grave is by far their best album). If you want a more detailed breakdown my last.fm is here (http://www.last.fm/user/Raven395), although I only just got it to scrobble my iPod, so it may not be accurate.

shunoshi
10-24-2008, 12:17 PM
Despise it with nearly every ounce of my being. Maybe that's just me. :p

Troggles
10-24-2008, 12:20 PM
I do love some classic Jimmy Eat World.

Generation ABXY
10-24-2008, 12:28 PM
Despise it with nearly every ounce of my being. Maybe that's just me. :p

No, it's not just you.

Raen
10-24-2008, 12:33 PM
Despise it with nearly every ounce of my being. Maybe that's just me. :p

Well it makes up about half of my listening, but I freely admit that it isn't just you. Then again I really dislike stuff like Dragonforce, so to each his or her own.

Thanasimos
10-24-2008, 12:38 PM
Ask Hellbug

(I take the easy shots first, 'cause they're easy.)

LongStepMantis
10-24-2008, 12:38 PM
It isn't just that the bands or the genre of emo is annoying.

It's that a bunch of guys with more money and women than I'll ever have continually sing about how depressing their lives are. I can't even pretend to take that seriously. But I also don't look down on people who do, I just see it as overly whiny for my tastes. Granted that's not all they sing about but I think you get my point.

Raen
10-24-2008, 12:53 PM
It's that a bunch of guys with more money and women than I'll ever have continually sing about how depressing their lives are. I can't even pretend to take that seriously. But I also don't look down on people who do, I just see it as overly whiny for my tastes. Granted that's not all they sing about but I think you get my point.

It differs. Stuff like My Awesome Compilation, The All-American Rejects, Bayside and the second Panic At The Disco album very much aren't like that. Actually some stuff I'd call Emo is more like Blink182 in it's content. It just depends on what you listen to. And sometimes it's nice to here someone whine about their life when yours has gone to shit. Sure it may not be true, but it's cathartic.

LongStepMantis
10-24-2008, 01:01 PM
It differs. Stuff like My Awesome Compilation, The All-American Rejects, Bayside and the second Panic At The Disco album very much aren't like that. Actually some stuff I'd call Emo is more like Blink182 in it's content. It just depends on what you listen to. And sometimes it's nice to here someone whine about their life when yours has gone to shit. Sure it may not be true, but it's cathartic.

I can understand that. Like I said, I don't have any hostility towards the music. I just don't like it, generally. That doesn't mean I don't still like some songs by artists that are considered emo. I don't exclude any genre of music completely.
Usually I judge on a song by song basis.

Schnoogs
10-24-2008, 01:05 PM
Emo music makes me want to cut my wrists...perhaps that's intentional on their behalf.

Raen
10-24-2008, 01:15 PM
Emo music makes me want to cut my wrists...perhaps that's intentional on their behalf.

Sarcasm? Right? Right?!

Mr. Murphy
10-24-2008, 01:17 PM
I like some music that is called emo, but I seem to hate the bands that people use as definitions of the world.

Everyone should like what they like, so I mean this as no offense to anybody, but Jimmy Eat World is the most unpleasant music I have ever heard. Used to have a roommate that looooooved them.

I really like Taking Back Sunday tho.

I was listening to emo back when it was called goth. Tell me the Cure isn't emo.

fitbabits
10-24-2008, 01:22 PM
No. Never have, and I can't see myself ever taking to it now.

rinichanraar
10-24-2008, 02:35 PM
I do love some classic Jimmy Eat World.

Okay, so I totally stalked and followed you here, and I also like old Jimmy Eat World! Bleed American and some Clarity! This is freakin' ridiculous.

Aside from that, I don't really enjoy emo music.

Oh, and regarding My Chemical Romance, I think they have fun music, but their lyrics are absolute balls.

Raen
10-24-2008, 07:32 PM
Okay, so I totally stalked and followed you here, and I also like old Jimmy Eat World! Bleed American and some Clarity! This is freakin' ridiculous.

Aside from that, I don't really enjoy emo music.

Oh, and regarding My Chemical Romance, I think they have fun music, but their lyrics are absolute balls.

Bleed American is fantastic! And you're right, My Chemical Romance are fun. I like a band who can poke fun at themselves and at their critics.

TheKeck
10-24-2008, 09:10 PM
I found this list: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112989

I like some Brandnew, Dashboard Confessional sometimes, Jimmy Eat World, The Postal Service, The Starting Line, Taking Back Sunday, and love the HELL out of Weezer.

So, um, do I pass?

KingGorilla
10-24-2008, 09:11 PM
No. Never have, and I can't see myself ever taking to it now.

We are old man, which does not bode well for me as you are more than 15 years my senior.

fitbabits
10-24-2008, 09:12 PM
We are old man, which does not bode well for me as you are more than 15 years my senior.

Yeah, we are, but we are also World-wise. Been round the block and all that.

Suave Peanut
10-24-2008, 09:12 PM
I found this list: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112989

I like some Brandnew, Dashboard Confessional sometimes, Jimmy Eat World, The Postal Service, The Starting Line, Taking Back Sunday, and love the HELL out of Weezer.

So, um, do I pass?
That list is wrong.

With regard to whomever labeled most of those groups as "emo," they keep using this word... I do not think it means what they think it means.

TheKeck
10-24-2008, 09:15 PM
That list is wrong.

With regard to whomever labeled most of those groups as "emo," they keep using this word... I do not think it means what they think it means.
Shrug. OK. Would any of those bands be considered emo, by you?

Suave Peanut
10-24-2008, 09:23 PM
Shrug. OK. Would any of those bands be considered emo, by you?


√ Brand New
√ Dashboard Confessional
√ Jimmy Eat World
X The Postal Service
X The Starting Line
√ Taking Back Sunday
X Weezer

Jimmy Eat World representing classic emo, and Brand New and Taking Back Sunday being transitional groups, and Dashboard at the beginning of the "new" emo. Remember: pop-punk ≠ emo

King3567
10-24-2008, 10:58 PM
I'm fine with emo music now that all the people who jump on bandwagons are done with it. This (http://sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=26993) is a really good emo cd that was released this year.

Scaryfaced
10-24-2008, 11:09 PM
Anyone listen to Reggie and the Full Effect? They're the only band I listen to that I'd consider emo, but I haven't found anyone else who's even heard of them.
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Suave Peanut
10-24-2008, 11:16 PM
Anyone listen to Reggie and the Full Effect? They're the only band I listen to that I'd consider emo, but I haven't found anyone else who's even heard of them.
Although I can see where you're coming from in calling RatFE emo, he is really more a pop-punk kind of thing. Of course, it is a side project of a great emo band: The Get Up Kids

VerseD
10-24-2008, 11:17 PM
Is The Cure emo, or are they goth? Because I like some of their songs.

As for all those white suburban bands like Jimmy Eat World and Dashboard Confessional where the lead singer sounds like he's whining, do not like. I don't mean to be dismissive, but really there are a lot more constructive ways to sing about that girl from the party last night.

TheEpicOfTyler
10-24-2008, 11:19 PM
Emo is such an abused term. :(

Suave Peanut
10-24-2008, 11:24 PM
Is The Cure emo, or are they goth? Because I like some of their songs.
The Cure would be definitely be considered goth rock, but for my purposes I'd just call it post-punk or maybe even new wave.

Here's the evolution:
punk -> post-punk -> goth rock
punk -> hardcore -> emo

Goth rock and emo are stylistic cousins, but really quite different.

Raen
10-25-2008, 03:08 AM
√ Brand New
√ Dashboard Confessional
√ Jimmy Eat World
X The Postal Service
X The Starting Line
√ Taking Back Sunday
X Weezer

Jimmy Eat World representing classic emo, and Brand New and Taking Back Sunday being transitional groups, and Dashboard at the beginning of the "new" emo. Remember: pop-punk ≠ emo

Weezer? How the hell did Weezer even make their list? And I'd argue the starting line are borderline Emo. I personally think the link between pop-punk and Emo is pretty blurred, and a lot of the modern Emo stuff has a very pop-punk feel. And we'll certainly be playing stuff along the lines of pop-punk on the show as well. I really enjoy bands along the lines of the Starting Line, so I'll almost certainly play them or something similar at some point.

BLeeP
10-25-2008, 03:19 AM
I love the first two Juliana Theory albums. After that they changed their sound to what everyone sounded like on the radio at the time (the whole pop punk "Blink 182 got rich screwing up someone else's sound, so let try it too!" thing). I also love Bleed American, and I think The Postal Service is easily in the top five albums ever created.

The genre of emo, though? I dunno, I like music.

Suave Peanut
10-25-2008, 06:08 AM
Weezer? How the hell did Weezer even make their list? And I'd argue the starting line are borderline Emo. I personally think the link between pop-punk and Emo is pretty blurred, and a lot of the modern Emo stuff has a very pop-punk feel. And we'll certainly be playing stuff along the lines of pop-punk on the show as well. I really enjoy bands along the lines of the Starting Line, so I'll almost certainly play them or something similar at some point.
I follow when you're coming from here, and a lot of artists in the past 5 years or so have really been blurring genre lines between pop-punk and emo while labeling themselves as emo bands. The two genres have similar stylistic origins, but really the labels are not interchangeable.

I dig The Starting Line, their first album especially, but they are pop-punk.


As for Weezer: in what universe are they emo? They are not even punk!

Raen
10-25-2008, 06:12 AM
I follow when you're coming from here, and a lot of artists in the past 5 years or so have really been blurring genre lines between pop-punk and emo while labeling themselves as emo bands. The two genres have similar stylistic origins, but really the labels are not interchangeable.

I dig The Starting Line, their first album especially, but they are pop-punk.

Agreed. They totally aren't interchangeable labels, but they are close enough that it's very easy for a band to slip from one into the other. A lot of the time it even depends on the individual song (to an extent this is the case with Fall Out Boy, although I'd certainly put them on the Emo side of the line).

Squidbot
10-25-2008, 06:40 AM
I like music, regardless of labels. If it is music I like I'll listen to it, if not then I won't. I couldn't even tell you what most of the bullshit labels are these days, seems to me a lot of what gets called emo could easily be labelled goth.

That said, some of the bands listed here are okay, but some are just awful.

Squidbot
10-25-2008, 06:53 AM
I was listening to emo back when it was called goth. Tell me the Cure isn't emo.

Thank you! And The Cure were (sic) way better than any "emo" band I know of.

TheKeck
10-25-2008, 12:16 PM
√ Brand New
√ Dashboard Confessional
√ Jimmy Eat World
X The Postal Service
X The Starting Line
√ Taking Back Sunday
X Weezer

Jimmy Eat World representing classic emo, and Brand New and Taking Back Sunday being transitional groups, and Dashboard at the beginning of the "new" emo. Remember: pop-punk ≠ emo

Weezer? How the hell did Weezer even make their list? And I'd argue the starting line are borderline Emo. I personally think the link between pop-punk and Emo is pretty blurred, and a lot of the modern Emo stuff has a very pop-punk feel. And we'll certainly be playing stuff along the lines of pop-punk on the show as well. I really enjoy bands along the lines of the Starting Line, so I'll almost certainly play them or something similar at some point.

I follow when you're coming from here, and a lot of artists in the past 5 years or so have really been blurring genre lines between pop-punk and emo while labeling themselves as emo bands. The two genres have similar stylistic origins, but really the labels are not interchangeable.

I dig The Starting Line, their first album especially, but they are pop-punk.


As for Weezer: in what universe are they emo? They are not even punk!
I guess you guys need to edit wikipedia. ;)
A Cornerstone of the late-Nineties emo movement was Weezer's 1996 album Pinkerton, which was to be considered one of the defining emo records of the 90s and was said to have introduced emo to a larger and more mainstream audience.[7][8]

Raen
10-25-2008, 01:02 PM
I guess you guys need to edit wikipedia. ;)

Ok it depends on your definition. Jimmy Eat World actually caused the term to be redefined by moving away from their post-hardcore roots and spawning pretty much most of the radio Emo you hear today. Weezer are not Emo under the current definition, but rather are post-hardcore (a distinction I make for simplicities sake, even though before the Bleed American album they meant essentially the same thing).

Raen
10-26-2008, 08:03 AM
Just to remind anyone interested in listening that the show goes out live tonight at 9PM UK/GMT, 5PM EDT, 4PM CDT. You can listen here (http://urfonline.com/listen/flash/) through our flash tool. If you happen to be in the Brighton, UK area you can try and listen using one of those old fashioned radios on 1431AM. More details about tonight's show are in the OP. Hope at least one or two people'll listen in. Maybe I should PM Hellbug like someone suggested (and you have no idea how tempting it was to put that in the OP).

KingGorilla
10-26-2008, 09:34 AM
Shrug. OK. Would any of those bands be considered emo, by you?

Right now? Anything you listen to Mr. I cut myself to let the hurt out.

Blue
10-26-2008, 11:56 AM
Absolutely love Jimmy Eat World. Saw them a few years back when they were in Columbus and they did an entire acoustic set. Such a great performance. Outside of that...no. Not so much. Though I will admit that the video for MCR's Helena is absolutely incredible. Strikes a Rocky Horror cord deep within me that can always bring out a smile.

Raen
10-26-2008, 05:11 PM
If anyone listened in I'd love to know what your thought of our crazily rushed show.

TheEpicOfTyler
10-26-2008, 05:57 PM
I did not listen, but if you promise to stray away from radio rock, I'll be sure to check it out next time.

Raen
10-26-2008, 06:03 PM
Well thinking back on what we played I think there was maybe 1 or 2 songs that have probably ever gotten a large amount of radio play. We had some Jack's Mannequin, The Starting Line, My Awesome Compilation, The All-American Rejects, Zebrahead (Covering the Spice Girls) and a bunch of other stuff along those lines. The only stuff we played that'd get radio play is You Me At Six and the Panic At The Disco song for Halloween.

Lance Uppercut
10-26-2008, 06:16 PM
It's that a bunch of guys with more money and women than I'll ever have continually sing about how depressing their lives are.

Where does that put Trent Reznor?

Rakael
10-31-2008, 06:55 AM
I despise pretty much any band that carries the "emo" label. I was never a big punk fan, and think pop-punk is an abortion. Also, the vocals of most "emo" bands, and pop-punk for that matter, grate on my nerves like a cheese grater on my balls.

Also, The Cure is in no way, shape or form emo. They may sing some depressing shit, bit it is post-punk/goth. Also, they have talent. :P

ShivaX
11-01-2008, 07:23 AM
I hate it with a passion.

Generally the music is mediocre, lyrics are shit and vocals are horrific.

Its the only genre of music that has no songs I like in it. Country is a close second with almost none and rap right next to it with damn-near-nothing. Country and rap are saved by a few artists/songs that are touching, powerful or part of the culture. Emo isn't saved by anything cause its not about anything really.