Minecraft: Indie World Building Game

[Goronmon]

Anyone tried out this game? It's a fairly simple Java web game with some pretty basic 3D graphics that is basically about carving out blocks and building structures on procedural maps. In the survival mode there are monsters that will attack you as well. I haven't really got into it too much yet, but it might be worth checking out if you have some time to kill.

http://minecraft.net/

The game is currently free and is in alpha, but you can purchase the game for $13 and get access to the in development version with the latest features.

Update:

Official CoG Server (Must be registered and logged in)

The server is listed in the Dedicated Server sticky (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=21769)...

[J Arcane]

I recommend instead trying the game that 4chan/Minecraft ripped off: http://www.zachtronicsindustries.com/?p=713

[Goronmon]

I don't know. I see no mention of zombies in that game. Though yes, I do know that Minecraft borrows heavily from Infiniminer. Plus, Minecraft is still in development.

Edit: Yeah, I'm just not sure what to do with Infiniminer. I guess it's a team-based multi-player game? The gameplay is pretty similar, but Minecraft is both single-player and multi-player and is more about world-building, or in Survival mode, surviving against monsters than about just some basic multi-player.

[ClannerDelta]

Well, I just used an hour and a half. Pretty great. I built a lush plain bordered by a giant mountain with a smiley face. Then a river bisecting the plain. Then I entombed myself under the bay to let my world grow on its own. I imagine Smiley Face Mountain will be the sight of many bloody battles in the future.

[Goronmon]

It will be interesting to see what is done with the game going forward.

[Heretic Machine]

I recommend instead trying the game that 4chan/Minecraft ripped off: http://www.zachtronicsindustries.com/?p=713

Pffft... Minecraft may be a knock-off, but it has more going for it than the original.

[Goronmon]

It sounds like you could do something like setup a CoG server where people can go around building stuff all over the world. That actually sounds pretty cool.

[BrassGecko]

It sounds like you could do something like setup a CoG server where people can go around building stuff all over the world. That actually sounds pretty cool.

I was playing with a server this morning, I have no idea if it's accessible or how well it'll hold up, but feel free to try it (http://minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=b543de72f3a6f2f6603b32ff2531437e).

It's a completely basic and unmodded server, and random people probably won't find it since it's not set to public and won't show up on the list on his site. I started building a fairly huge castle, feel free to add to it or to ignore it entirely.

[Goronmon]

I can't seem to connect.

Edit: Hmm...apparently it won't let me connect if I am logged in.

[BrassGecko]

Can you get to other servers? I'm 99% certain I've got something set wrong, though.

[Goronmon]

I can connect fine if I don't log-in. Not sure why that would matter though.

[Ink Asylum]

This looks like a lot of fun. I love construction sandbox games. I can definitely see myself carving out an underground city.

Now if Dwarf Fortress could only use Minecraft's visuals...

[BrassGecko]

I can connect fine if I don't log-in. Not sure why that would matter though.

Huh, you sure it's not just generating a single-player world? I know for fact no one else has made it through to mine yet. I've changed a couple router settings though, so it might be possible now.

Edit: This is what's currently in the middle of my map.
http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2766

[BigJonno]

This looks like a lot of fun. I love construction sandbox games. I can definitely see myself carving out an underground city.

Now if Dwarf Fortress could only use Minecraft's visuals...

Can you imagine a multiplayer DF where one person gives the orders and everyone else plays a dwarf, digging and crafting in first person?

[Goronmon]

Woot, got logged in! Yeah, it was definitely creating a single player map before.

[BrassGecko]

Woo! To repeat the link, mess around and build things, cog people! (http://minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=b543de72f3a6f2f6603b32ff2531437e)

[Ink Asylum]

I think the masterwork of this world should be a CoG logo monolith in the center of the map.

[BrassGecko]

From what looks like the average ground level, you can go up about 32 levels of blocks before you bump into the sky. That's room for a fairly massive cog.

[Goronmon]

I can't wait until the stuff like the Zombie attack mode or whatever it is called.

[BigJonno]

Just running around on the CoG map now. This is great! I want to build a pub, just got to figure out how to make it not suck.

[Hotcod]

http://www.quelsolaar.com/

so a less interesting less inter active less pretty much everything love? :P

[Goronmon]

http://www.quelsolaar.com/

so a less interesting less inter active less pretty much everything love? :P

Well, I wouldn't know as I am currently unable to play that game for myself. You are welcome to make your own thread about it though.

[Hotcod]

there's been lots of threads about it, news posts and the like too :P just with people talking about how grate a game like this but with more interaction and buildings and such would be I thought I'd point out that one exists already and goes live tomorrow :D

[Ravenlock]

Love is crazy deep but also crazy obscure and opaque. Great stuff, but for just jumping in and dicking around, Minecraft is a hell of a lot more accessible.

[BigJonno]

Hats off to whoever built the house, it's fantastic and totally puts my little pub to shame.

[Ink Asylum]

Dangit. Definitely want to try this out but I'll have to wait until later tonight. When you're in a server like this can you see the other players wandering around building stuff?

[BrassGecko]

Hats off to whoever built the house, it's fantastic and totally puts my little pub to shame.

Haha, thanks! I copied your fireplace.

Dangit. Definitely want to try this out but I'll have to wait until later tonight. When you're in a server like this can you see the other players wandering around building stuff?

Yeah, you can see everyone. The characters are pretty goofy looking, but in a good way. It's pretty neat.

[Ink Asylum]

Excellent. I shall be building a hobbit home for myself. I've always liked the idea of a home built into a hillside.

[Hawkzombie]

Ok, gonna go try the CoG server one :p

[Hawkzombie]

Can you imagine a multiplayer DF where one person gives the orders and everyone else plays a dwarf, digging and crafting in first person?

Dude...that would end up like Boatmurder, only a lot crazier.

OK, dinked around, but kept getting DCed :p I like it a lot, and was about to create a masterpiece lol

[Ink Asylum]

This game is way more fun than I expected. I had a great time putting together my hobbit house. If anyone wants to see it, from the start turn around then head forward and to the right. It's inside the big hill next to the chess board.

[Illuminus]

Pretty fun! Build an evil temple and a pit of doom in one of the corners. Just dont break the glass otherwise the whole pit will flood :(

[Hotcod]

This is pretty addictive once you start building. It's exactly the same feeling as in love but love is just far more complex, just seeing what people have managed so far shows how awesome a few simple tools can be :)

I've built the start of a tunnel system. You can get in to it from the evil eye or the bridge. Please lock glass doors behind you :P and if you are going to add to it keep your finished sections blocked off too... risk of flooding... there's a big hub room under the giant smiley likely with a big red T entrance too.

I also set up the starts of a compass by the spawn

[Hawkzombie]

I built a gnome, a sock, and an underground lair that I flooded. Twice :p

[ClannerDelta]

I just used 2 or 3 hours to dick around with you guys. That was most excellent. I got my observation tower up along with a tunnel. I might log in and connect it with Hotcod's Hub. I intended to make a smiley face sun, unfortunately it's just dark. :P

[J Arcane]

I made a wall of scorpion. And a house. And also tried to make an underground lair, that flooded, attempted to rebuild as underground pool, which flooded. So I sealed the whole thing off.

[AntonB]

Redesigned the main hall of the COG Castle... the game sucked me in for too long!@!

[Hotcod]

oh ya, there's a river that goes under the main bridge now... just be careful if you are digging down, my big hub room is right under it... i thought it would be amusing to see how long it all lasted

[BigJonno]

I posted some thoughts (http://shotgunpanda.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/minecraft-the-best-game-ever-right-now/) on Minecraft.

[Seika]

I made this...

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4010/megaman2.jpg

[Hotcod]

oh knows will he shoot the gnome?

[Seika]

1
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8373/minecraft1.jpg

2
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/897/minecraft2.jpg

[Ink Asylum]

I made a hobbit home, an outhouse, and a rocket with launch tower. I was afraid I was getting too close to the height cap with the rocket so I'll probably go back and make it a bit taller.

I love how everyone talks about what they did. We sound like a bunch of little kids, which is a real testament to the joy of creation. This is like having a huge set of legos at your disposal.

[Hotcod]

space invaders and the start of making cog castle more, well, castle like

[Ravenlock]

I love how everyone talks about what they did. We sound like a bunch of little kids, which is a real testament to the joy of creation. This is like having a huge set of legos at your disposal.

Yup. The screenshots you guys are posting are awesome, and exactly what happens every time an active forum gets their paws on something like this. I remember fondly a similar thread when I was in college about some multiplayer Lego-esque game (Brickland? Brickworld? Something like that? I don't remember. It wasn't official Lego.)... give nerds a set of tools to design nerdy things and a place to share them, and we'll always take the bait. :D

[Hotcod]

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/minecraft.jpg

space invaders!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/mc3.jpg

a tunnel, where can it lead?

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/mc2.jpg

an underground hub for tunnels, when people can be bothered to build to it... with out flooding :P

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/mc4.jpg

walls... and a gate house... *dies*

but really the idea i had was to take the wall out behind the gnome and run it along the coast and join it back up with the wall at the other end :D Helpfully it will keep out the evil door from the dark fortress!

[Hawkzombie]

Man, this whole thing is awesome. My underground lair pales in comparison. But I did build a secret altar to a dark and forbidden god :p

[Hotcod]

my hub thing is over a god damn lava stream! I may have to find more and build a maze with a huge evil alter of my own at the centre.

[Ink Asylum]

Anyone have any building tips? I find it tricky to build out a pathway over empty air under your feet. I have to scoot up over the edge, look down, and build on the narrow view I have of the block I'm standing on. Is there a better way?

It's a simple one, but if you look down, hold the right mouse button, and repeatedly jump you'll build a stack of blocks and go ever higher. Easy to break down, too.

[Jeffool]

Anyone have any building tips? I find it tricky to build out a pathway over empty air under your feet. I have to scoot up over the edge, look down, and build on the narrow view I have of the block I'm standing on. Is there a better way?
Grab the custom client here: http://www.worldofminecraft.com/Minecraft_Downloads

And you get the ability to fly. (Z is on/off, and Q/E is up/down.) Also Ctrl is "fast," and Shift "damn-fast."

I can't stay on the server longer than three minutes; the lag is too much and it constantly boots me for cheating (even using the traditional web client.)

[Goronmon]

I posted this not knowing if anyone would be interesting. Apparently my worries were unwarranted, haha.

[Hawkzombie]

I didn't even know there was such a wealth of stuff to mess around with. The map editor looks awesome, for creating specific maps to mess around in.

Now, you can buy this...what exactly does that get you? And gotta admit, this thing is expensive at what comes to 20 US (and that's 50% off!). Anyone mess with any of that extra stuff at all yet?

EDIT: Was gonna give love a try, but there isn't even a demo, and it costs 20 bucks as well.

[Hotcod]

ya as a silly tool to mess around with some freinds it seems awesome but as the game (from the single player stuff I've done) i'm unconviced and when love is doing 10 erous for 30 days of play... i don't know... love just seems like it's the better 'game' option of the two for now and from what I can see going on here. This is awesome as an easy and relatively permanent game/class arts project. I'm loving it for that.

edit:

this is the last time I'll talk about love here, i don't want to seem like i'm shilling but there's really no getting past the comparison. I'm likely going to jump on the love "retail" in the next few weeks so i'll start a thread to gush about it when i do :P

[Ink Asylum]

I doubt I'll buy it. I'm having plenty of fun in the free multiplayer and if it goes pay only I doubt I'll miss it enough to pay what they're asking for.

[Goronmon]

Actually, Minecraft is $13 with the conversion. Not cheap, but not bad considering it's a pretty open ended game with apparently pretty solid server support.

Edit: Damn Canadians, screwing up my maths.

[Hawkzombie]

See, that's what turned me off to Love. If it was 10 bucks to play, ok sure. But it's 10 Euros which turns into about 20 bucks for me, for just 30 days? No thanks. If I wanna throw away money like that I'll go back to an MMO.

This...This I'd easily pay 15 bucks for right off the bat. 20 is pushing it, but I'm having a ton of fun, and it looks like you can get different skins for it, and even editors that add new blocks, etc.

[Hawkzombie]

I hate double posting, but you guys gotta check out the indev videos I found.

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[AntonB]

Castle Main Basement + "Secret" Passage + Backyard Gardening & Bushes

This game is oddly relaxing.

[Illuminus]

Hopefully we can choose maps when he does implement the zombie attack mode. To the blimp!! :eek:

*maybe the rocket would be a better idea

[Jeffool]

Now, you can buy this...what exactly does that get you? And gotta admit, this thing is expensive at what comes to 20 US (and that's 50% off!). Anyone mess with any of that extra stuff at all yet?Purchasing it gets you two more game modes, only one of which is worthwhile. You get "survivor" mode, which is like the single player test, but with more gameplay mechanics. With the materials you mine you can build things (tree blocks -> 4 wood blocks -> 8 planks.) For a list of things:
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting

It starts like the single player test, and has a day/night cycle. During the night enemies appear from tiles that have no light on them (even inside your home,) so always be sure to keep your home well-lit! Personally, when morning comes I check my traps and it's back to mining and farming. You can save your game (to a file; online saving doesn't work yet,) and reload so you can continue any time. It's not "omg," but it's fun, and I found it worth supporting by tossing him the $13.
EDIT: Was gonna give love a try, but there isn't even a demo, and it costs 20 bucks as well.Maybe not of the gameplay proper, but c'mon; he's giving away the part most people would pay for, in multiplayer-creative. And soon he's going to offer purchasers "multiplayer survivor," which should prove to be awesome. (Fingers crossed.)This game is oddly relaxing.It's like a virtual zen garden.

Oh, and it's not up today for whatever reason, but there is a really awesome looking "Dwarf Fortress" server I recommend; it was named just that last it was up. Guy named HomeWorld runs it; good stuff.

[J Arcane]

There's a new landmark on the horizon, crowning my palatial hillside villa.

See if you can spot it. ;)

[Kenturion]

I spent far too long working on my lighthouse last night (this morning) and there's still more I want to do with it. There's some very creative stuff in there - nice going, guys!

[Ink Asylum]

I spent some time on lunch digging a secret tunnel from my hobbit house basement to the central tunnel hub. It was tougher than I thought as I had to keep digging to the surface to make sure I was heading in the right direction, and I ran into an underground lake I had to dig under, but by segmenting my progress as suggested I kept the whole place from being flooded.

Just when I was going to dig up to the surface to locate my destination again, I dug right through the stairs in the main hub room. I hope no one minds. The stairs are still usable, but there's a tunnel entrance in the middle of them now.

[J Arcane]

Damnit, now I gotta log back in again to check it out. I wish I didnt' suck at the underground stuff.

And that video up there looks cool. Could be pretty neat indeed to have all that extra gamey-toy-stuff in the MP.

[Hotcod]

I spent some time on lunch digging a secret tunnel from my hobbit house basement to the central tunnel hub. It was tougher than I thought as I had to keep digging to the surface to make sure I was heading in the right direction, and I ran into an underground lake I had to dig under, but by segmenting my progress as suggested I kept the whole place from being flooded.

Just when I was going to dig up to the surface to locate my destination again, I dug right through the stairs in the main hub room. I hope no one minds. The stairs are still usable, but there's a tunnel entrance in the middle of them now.

i'm just happy some one's bothered to use the room at all :D

[Ink Asylum]

Thank you for making the entrance a gigantic T. It made digging towards it a lot easier as I could prairie dog up through the dirt and spot it then duck back down to dig some more.

[J Arcane]

I've made the realization now that the bottom floor of my hill is actually like 3 squares below sea level.

I'm just glad I caught it before I decided to expand the wading area out on the beach.

[Illuminus]

Spleef!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-RmS-bn3LQ

Amazing what people come up with!! :D

[Hotcod]

Thank you for making the entrance a gigantic T. It made digging towards it a lot easier as I could prairie dog up through the dirt and spot it then duck back down to dig some more.

Ya I thought a marker for it would be useful. Talking of which there's now a 4th tunnel in to the hub :D there's something cool about going down to the basement of one of the land marks and trying to build a tunnel to the hub with out flooding and making it hard to get through.

Also I've extended the walls some what, I think I'll finish them up by building the wall by the gnome out to the sea and stick a tower on it or something. That way you've got the city walls and then the main castle bit too. I'm going to clean out and level the inside of where I think the castle should be and start work on some buildings and such. There's a half finished wall running up from the harbour along the cost line which could be connected up to the tower at the end of the wall too.

So ya, i've been calling the area with the gnome, rocket and balloon cog city and the lumpy bit full of trees (for now) as cog castle. Which is a bit silly given all the house and home like things are on the other side of the wall but ah well

[Hotcod]

spleef!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-rms-bn3lq

amazing what people come up with!! :d

this must be done! OVER LARVA

[ClannerDelta]

I managed to connect my tunnels to HotCod's without flooding us both. I used a bright red brick above my entrances. As we all seemed to use glass as deco. So the red lets people know which blocks they can safely pummel.

[Illuminus]

So i gave in and cashed in $13 to check out the dev build. The crafting is really nice! Finding wood and coal seems to be the first step (coal is used for cooking food, torches ect).

[Ravenlock]

Finally got in to check it out. You all have done great and terrible things, and I'm proud of you. :D

Favorites: The eye of Sauron, the lighthouse, and the subterranean cave with the glass floor suspended above lava. Really, bravo.

EDIT: I also gave them the money weeks ago just to support the idea. I consider this thread a return on my investment. ;)

[Hawkzombie]

Maybe not of the gameplay proper, but c'mon; he's giving away the part most people would pay for, in multiplayer-creative. And soon he's going to offer purchasers "multiplayer survivor," which should prove to be awesome. (Fingers crossed.)

Uh...Love does? I didn't see that in the client I DLed. Plus I'm not a fan of the graphics. I dunno, personally it really doesn't do it for me.

And is 13 all it converts to? For some reason I thought Euros were more than that. If that's all it costs, I might have to take the plunge as well then.

[J Arcane]

So! Important note! Unlike nearly all other materials, sand is affected by gravity.

[Ink Asylum]

I believe gravel is as well.

[J Arcane]

I reached the hub. Next will be cleaning up the route I suppose, and maybe boring it out a little more if I dare. My branch sort of passes under the river, so I'm a little afraid to do too much with it lest I wind up flooding all my work.

[Hawkzombie]

Ok, nobody kill me, but I may have flooded...everything. I was creating an aqua channel, and missed a block, and flooded most of the area around the chess place, which I know has several underground connections.

I feel terrible. I hope that Brass made a backup before he left...Ugh...God I'm an idiot.

[Hemalin]

I connected the wall going from the one tower to another tower near the harbor. It's pretty much finished with just some tidying up left to do. Later I'm going to build another tower near the gnome that connects that side of the wall. The harbor could be expanded too which I may get around to after I finish the walls.

[BrassGecko]

I haven't had a chance to check in at all today, but I'll be in after TF2 Thursday (unless that just doesn't get going at all...). Can't wait to see it, though I hear someone destroyed the castle's greenhouse flowerbeds! And yeah, I've got a backup from 8:15pm eastern if it's needed.

[J Arcane]

Wow, Hawk, you're not kidding. The chessboard is at sea level now. ;)

The tunnels seem OK though, at least mine is, and the lava room is.

[ClannerDelta]

Ok, nobody kill me, but I may have flooded...everything. I was creating an aqua channel, and missed a block, and flooded most of the area around the chess place, which I know has several underground connections.

I feel terrible. I hope that Brass made a backup before he left...Ugh...God I'm an idiot.

From what I see. The big tunnel network didn't flood.

[Hawkzombie]

Ok, good...that was my big worry. I just turned around after openeing up the water, and my jaw DROPPED lol.

[Ink Asylum]

I checked my hobbit home, which is near the chess board, and it's still dry. Phew. Looks like no real harm done. The chess board actually looks kind of cool over the water.

[Hemalin]

The walls are finished.

There's some colored blocks set up between the gnome and Mega Man. Is someone building something there or is it alright if I demolish that and expand that harbor some more? I built another dock there already if someone wants to build another small ship.

[J Arcane]

The walls are finished.

There's some colored blocks set up between the gnome and Mega Man. Is someone building something there or is it alright if I demolish that and expand that harbor some more? I built another dock there already if someone wants to build another small ship.
It's a signature. It's an image trick though, you have to look at it from the right angle. Very clever.

[Seika]

I started 2fort castle... too sleepy.. if anyone wants to continue it...

@JArcane.

;)

[Hotcod]

the castle and walls are starting to look like a real castle and walls :D just need to work on a keep now

[Panthera]

Yeah I pretty much wasted most of my evening last night laying out the initial tunnels for my underground lair and making a M.U.L.E.

[BrassGecko]

I got my blimp mostly finished. Just a bit of interior work left, it fit 3 floors comfortably!

[RandoM51]

Boo, I get about 3-5fps playing this in firefox.

[Seika]

your browser can't handle the awesome... ;)

[BrassGecko]

This is just what's above ground and visible from InkAsylum's newly started sky fortress. Awesome.

http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2797

[RandoM51]

OK, I walled off a corner so I could get a decent FPS and am building something behind it.

[Hawkzombie]

Boo, I get about 3-5fps playing this in firefox.

Serious? I have no clue why...it runs like a champ on mine. What version FF are you using?

And that metroid took far too long to make lol.

[Panthera]

OK, I walled off a corner so I could get a decent FPS and am building something behind it.

If you go into options you can lower your view distance, as well.

And yeah, runs great for me in Firefox. No framerate problems even when I'm looking at the whole map.

[RandoM51]

...well, I could have just toggled fog instead of building that wall, lol. Now I have to tear down that wall. On top of that I hit the upward limit of the map before getting about halfway up the structure I was building. Guess I need to knock the scale in half.

[Hawkzombie]

Anyone playing indev try floating islands yet?

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Stuff/Float2.png

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Stuff/Float.png

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Stuff/Hell_float.png
The hell map looks awesome...if you do it normally, it's eternally nighttime and all the water is replaced with lava. Dunno if there is any underground water (haven't tried yet)

[BrassGecko]

Meant to mention it in here, I started making everyone I saw on the server mini-admins so they could use the "/tp username teleport" deal to hop around to other people. Just ask when I'm on if I haven't gotten you yet.

[Hemalin]

It's a signature. It's an image trick though, you have to look at it from the right angle. Very clever.
Ahh, now I see it. I've mostly been working in that area so all I've really seen of it was up close. I'll be sure to leave it intact.


Wow, since last night there is now a metroid, a red fort and some more floating castles. You guys are fast.

[RandoM51]

Got about 1/3 of the empire state building before running out of z-levels, will have to think of something else.

[Hotcod]

You know if he can build in game elements like the crafting and bad guys and so on in a good way and we can have a sever just for us it would be damn cool to just build up a real settlement.

[J Arcane]

I have built the reading room of the devil. If you take the stairs down to the natural cave under the glass tower to the south, and follow the little yellow path, there's a glass door that goes down to my latest bit of excavation.

[Hotcod]

I cleared the keep grounds, just not sure I feel up to starting the keep :P also I messed up ten19's smiley light face while doing it. I think i've fixed it but you may want to check it's ok... sorrwie :(

[Hawkzombie]

You know if he can build in game elements like the crafting and bad guys and so on in a good way and we can have a sever just for us it would be damn cool to just build up a real settlement.

I heard there was plans for a multi-player survival mode, and there is a way to get it working, but it's buggy as hell and crashes a lot. personally, I'd love a multi-survival bit.

[Hotcod]

HAHA I just finished the very basic shell of the keep castle thingy, had no clear plan I just built as I went... to the block it's to the sky limit :D if people want to mess around adding staris and decore and maybe change up the stone block calding so it not so mono tone you can :)

[J Arcane]

Thanks to the assistance and plumbing of the fine Mr. Hawkzombie, the devil's reading room is now completely submerged beneath some 40 feet or more of lava.

It fucking rules. And watching the lava flow in is one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a game.

[Hawkzombie]

Thanks to the assistance and plumbing of the fine Mr. Hawkzombie, the devil's reading room is now completely submerged beneath some 40 feet or more of lava.

It fucking rules. And watching the lava flow in is one of the coolest things I've ever seen in a game.

It was actually fun to build the tunnel to get the lava over there. Now to hope no one tunnels into the pocket of lava I left behind :p

[ClannerDelta]

Ok, the reading room of the Devil is excellent.

[BrassGecko]

I grabbed a screenshot of hawkzombie's new suit:

http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2799

[Hotcod]

I stole the lava tunnel idea and made a lava tunnel you can walk through :D just go to the castle front door then jump off and you should land in it if hem hasn't flooded it. He managed to start building a lava room right down in to the root of my tunnel as i was making it, which was funny.

But mostly I've had oddly good luck with placing thing tonight. I get the castle perfect hight with out trying, i go for an underground wander and find me self digging up in to my castle. I then dig down and find out I can make a straight shot to the hub room :D

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/mc5.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/mc6.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/mc7.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a128/hotcod/minecraft/mc8.jpg

[Hotcod]

I grabbed a screenshot of hawkzombie's new suit:

http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2799

so much win

[Hemalin]

The lava tunnel is now complete. I'm going to put in a staircase at the opposite end of it that I'll get around to either later tonight or tomorrow. Someone can go decorate the lava room if they feel like it. Just try not to flood it.

[Ink Asylum]

Oh crap. I was exploring the new lava-surrounded rooms and I accidentally flooded one of them with lava. I thought I was opening a glass door but it cleared one block too many. My apologies. When I have more time I can help try to clear it out, however that is done.

[RandoM51]

I went a little crazy over in my corner of the map. Probably need another day or two to get to where I'll feel it is "finished".

[Ravenlock]

This is magnificent, you guys. I mean, holy crap.

[Hawkzombie]

Oh crap. I was exploring the new lava-surrounded rooms and I accidentally flooded one of them with lava. I thought I was opening a glass door but it cleared one block too many. My apologies. When I have more time I can help try to clear it out, however that is done.

Now you know my pain :p

I grabbed a screenshot of hawkzombie's new suit:

http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2799

It's craptastic, but for what it is, it's not too bad :p...I'm probably gonna make something new.

Also, Random's been working his ass off...it's insane what he's done.

[Hawkzombie]

http://minecraftskins.net

Found this site which has a ton more custom skins for miners.

[Hemalin]

Since hotcod ruined my plans for a lava surrounded home, I ended carving out a little hovel behind the rocket and balloon. I ran into a decent sized cave with some lava at the bottom so I'll be expanding into there tomorrow.

[Hawkzombie]

Found some interesting stuff.

If something is flooded, use sponges to soak it back up again (Yellow block with black spots). Oh, and Sand can be used to artificially raise the water level it seems. Gonna test it out. EDIT: Nope, nevermind.

Anyway, once this goes into MP survival, I think it's gonna be amazing. Even if we just pretend to be playing 3D DF :p

EDIT: The sponges are interesting. they remove water from a 5x5 cubed area.

[J Arcane]

That's what that block is? I thought it was cheese.

[BrassGecko]

Anyway, once this goes into MP survival, I think it's gonna be amazing. Even if we just pretend to be playing 3D DF :p

http://minecraftskins.net/skin.php?id=275

[Hawkzombie]

I saw that one and cracked up. I'm wondering what to do now...I could go back to our server but I dunno what to build. I could play single, but it's HARD...

[J Arcane]

I built the beginnings of a skyway, between the helix tower and the glass tower. Mostly I was just finishing what the helix tower person started (sorry forgot who it was), but I thought it might be cool to have glass path connecting some of these otherwise hard or impossible to reach aerial constructions.

However, in trying to reach the mysterious glass house in the SE corner of the map, I came to realizations:

1) some people may not want theirs connected. The builder of that glass house, for instance concealed the entrance so well I got lost trying to find my way out of it. ;)

2) Since the initial leg is already so high up, it would be much easier in many cases to build a stair up to the skyway, than down. Impossible in some cases.

So given these, I'll leave it up to individual builders if they'd like to connect. A more central hub might be a good idea too, perhaps built up from the tunnel hub?

Also, if you do build into it, try to use only glass. It makes for a prettier view, and prevents it from blocking out sunlight from the plants and grass below.

[Seika]

RedFort WIP
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4223/redfort.jpg

also, LOL

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/190/pointer.jpg

[Hotcod]

How can people still be adding kick ass stuff at this point? even time I jump back in there's some new creation that gets a smile. The lava tunnel has ended up awesome, turned in to a nice community project :D

Along with carrying on work with the castle (needs windows, stairs, and oh so much more) I think I may try and find some land to squeeze in some kind of colosseum where we can play games like that video :D

[Hawkzombie]

Thing is, Brass gave us a smaller map too...I've seen ones where they're insane. One's 'sky diving, and has to be at least 5000 blocks high.

WHY DID YOU GIVE US SUCH A 'SMALL' MAP, BRASS?!? :p

[Seika]

1
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4456/colony4.jpg
2
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4636/colony3.jpg
3
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8524/colony2.jpg
4
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7205/colony1.jpg

[Seika]

I was checking out some of the big maps.

1
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/517/huge1.jpg

2
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4200/huge2.jpg

3
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9402/huge3.jpg

That last one was using this much memory, whoa!... :D

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/9030/memorys.jpg

[RandoM51]

Sponges are awesome.

Tasks today:

Removed water from SunkenScraper with sponges
Built internal staircase from bottom to top of SunkenScraper, entry is in front, kind of obvious.
Evened out sides of reflecting pool so that it is symmetrical.

[Hawkzombie]

Dude, who did the command prompt??

And Random...I think you win the award for most intricate design. Your sunken skycraper is just amazing.

[RandoM51]

I finished it up. Added some underwater viewing galleries, a skybridge, an observation tower, a shortcut from original spawn, and did the landscaping. Since I'm neighbors with a lighthouse I went in and expanded the harbor a bit and built a sailing ship.

I also started sponging out the cave system. If you see sponges laying around in the caves, that is why.

[Hemalin]

Sponges are awesome. In a 2x2 hallway, put a sponge behind a block on each side and it will stop flooding without you even knowing it's there. We could probably do away with most of the glass blockers this way. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with lava.

[BrassGecko]

Thing is, Brass gave us a smaller map too...I've seen ones where they're insane. One's 'sky diving, and has to be at least 5000 blocks high.

WHY DID YOU GIVE US SUCH A 'SMALL' MAP, BRASS?!? :p

I didn't know what I was doing any more than the rest of you! :p

When this fills up to the point that we want to call it done, I'll back it up and upload it so people can hold onto the save if they want it, and we can try to set up something fancier.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I changed the spawn point to one of the castle towers, so people just stopping in to look can get a better idea of the sheer volume of stuff we've got in there right off the bat.

[RandoM51]

I hope you changed it late yesterday/early today and not just recently. :)

Oh, and I'm lucky you picked a small map, I've only got 512MB in this pc.

[RandoM51]

OH nooooooo! Somebody flooded my shortcut with lava and now it is the tower.

[BrassGecko]

OH nooooooo! Somebody flooded my shortcut with lava and now it is the tower.

The sponges! They do nothing! :(

[Hawkzombie]

So....now it's the Towering Inferno? :p

[RandoM51]

BrassGecko helped me clear it out. We flooded it with water and then dug it out, then sponged it dry. Went fairly quick, all things considered. Need magma sponges.

[BrassGecko]

If you suffer from epilepsy, I suggest avoiding the large tower with the red arrows.

[ClannerDelta]

If you suffer from epilepsy, I suggest avoiding the large tower with the red arrows.

A thousand times for emphasis. :p

[Illuminus]

Anyone playing indev try floating islands yet?

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Stuff/Float2.png

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Stuff/Float.png

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Stuff/Hell_float.png
The hell map looks awesome...if you do it normally, it's eternally nighttime and all the water is replaced with lava. Dunno if there is any underground water (haven't tried yet)

Love the floating island setting, its the only one i ever use. When the Infdev gets properly implemented ill jump to that since that generator is far superior than what is currently in the Indev version. The mountains and archways looks so awesome!

http://i42.tinypic.com/352llxu.png

[URL="http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu140/drewcoon/mcimg001.png"]http:http://i641.photobucket.com/albums/uu140/drewcoon/mcimg001.png

http://i44.tinypic.com/1qicyv.jpg

http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj452/Menen101/Portaltodeath.jpg?t=1269734045p"]http://i555.photobucket.com/albums/jj452/Menen101/Portaltodeath.jpg?t=1269734045p

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/NpnArbiter/clashofthedragonsMC.png

[Arphahat]

I just found this link last night and was shocked by the immense amount of stuff that had you guys had created in only 4 days. Crazy. I started messing around exploring (with BrassGecko) and found something I wanted to mess around with. Please take care around the little brick house in front of the CoG icons, since I am playing around there.

[ClannerDelta]

To the person who built the Onyx Castle I parked my Battlecruiser over... Congrats on your new Battlecruiser! Sorry about that.

It didn't occur to me that you might not want it there until I was almost done. Your place was the best spot without grass for shooting at the Hindentanic.

[BrassGecko]

To the person who built the Onyx Castle I parked my Battlecruiser over... Congrats on your new Battlecruiser! Sorry about that.

It didn't occur to me that you might not want it there until I was almost done. Your place was the best spot without grass for shooting at the Hindentanic.

That castle's actually mine too. :p

[RandoM51]

goofed around, implanted sponges all over my viewing chamber area since it seems to get flooded 2 or 3 times a day. Added some stripes, redid walls/ceilings/staircase. Still not happy with that staircase.

Oh and got grass up high on a floating island, think I might make a network of them.

[Illuminus]

Yea... i have noticed someone is causing flooding all over the place <_<. Thank goodness for sponges though.

[AntonB]

If you suffer from epilepsy, I suggest avoiding the large tower with the red arrows.

Now, there's a Treat for the brave men that take a trip through the rabbit hole! ;)


Thanks to Hemalin for helping me out when I flooded for the 5th time! :D

[J Arcane]

Some folks have been naughty.

The glass lava tunnel under the hub is completely flooded now and seems to be missing walls in several places, though it's hard to tell through all the red.

Also, there's some weird ass new tunnels just randomly carved all over near the south side of the castle wall, just meandering tunnels going everywhere cutting into other tunnels and caves, and all in hideous random colors.

[Hotcod]

oh for fucks sake, I only cleaned up the water some one filled the hub room up with by drilling a freaking hole in the ceiling yesterday afternoon and now some idiots fucking up things that have taken a good few people a lot of work.

[J Arcane]

Is the server public, beyond just the link in this thread? My roommate was playing about with it to day, and reading stuff, and it seems griefing and vandalism are rife with this game.

Is it possible to password the server? At least then we can be sure it wasn't some random jackass just fucking shit up.

[Hotcod]

Well i fixed it, it took me all of 10 minutes when i didn't even know where the leak was. It seems like some one was trying to expand or change up the big lava room and messed up. Not only did they no think to block off the area they where messing around with they just left it messed up. I don't think any of us care if some one was trying to do something and they make a mistake so long as you do your best to fix it and don't just leave it a mess.

But ya I'd not put anything like the time we have done in to a server that was on the public list. Some kind of password that we give out over PM might me useful since a search from mine craft servers would likely bring this page up at some point if some one was looking for servers to mess around on.

[Hawkzombie]

Well, I know ours is private, so the only people who would go there are the ones who use the link.

Also, MOST of the griefing happens on the public servers that block people from freely going about their business building, or require a PayPal donation (aside from buying the game) to go out into their server. It's ridiculous.

Dunno what happened with other things, but my guess is we're starting to build into one another now, and mistakes might start to happen.

[Hotcod]

If you take some time getting to know what's around the area that you are going to build you'll have a good idea of what not to do. I've messed up some ones work by mistake before and you know what I did when I realised it? I fixed the damn thing.

[RandoM51]

Problem with anything related to lava is once you're in it you can't see anything. I'm usually disoriented about 10 seconds after I see the first magma tile.

[Ink Asylum]

It's a shame to hear that people's exploring and creating are starting to get entangled. It was kind of inevitable, especially as more people join the server. I know one of the first things I did was just start randomly digging down into the earth, finding the natural caves accidentally. Now someone doing that is bound to burrow into someone else's construction. No excuse for just leaving it like that without repair or, at the very least, explaining what happened in this thread.

[BrassGecko]

Yeah, I couldn't find a way to password the server, possibly one of the server mods allows it. I did make it non-public, so it's not linked from that list on the main minecraft site.

The "random" tunnels that connect up those caves are arphahat's labyrinth, I believe, and the clashing colors would be courtesy of his kid. :p

Edit: yeah, as to the floods.. be careful when you're digging! Everyone should just drop sponges when they're digging a new tunnel, and stick glass walls up behind themselves to avoid lava floods.

There's also the question.. when do we stop building on this map? At what point do we decide there's no room left and start over fresh?

[Arphahat]

I'm responsible for a lot of the tunnels. I've been working on a labyrinth that has several locations as exits. However, I've been careful about limiting floods to only the new sections I'm working on with liberal use of sponges into the rest of the areas, so I don't think I am responsible for the complaints about that.

If you found an underground section that has lots of pink, purple, red and green, that was when I was playing with my daughter and I was letting her build stuff, but not destroying things, so I thought it was out of the way and not affecting anyone.

[J Arcane]

No worries, I just thought it seemed sort of random and worried someone might be doin' some weird shit, so I brought it to folk's attention.

The only personal effect anyone's had on the stuff I've built is antonb's Mudkip was like one tile height away from flooding my tunnel into the hub. ;)

[Ink Asylum]

So what's the mechanic of the sponge? I haven't experimented with them yet. And is the only reliable way to get rid of lava to flood the area with water first?

We'll be done building when we run out of room. :) There's still a good chunk of above-ground space left for new projects, though it is running out. There's not much behind the castle walls yet. I found a nice big spot there to begin building my world tree, and there's still lots of room for other structures.

[J Arcane]

The sponge essentially creates a 5-block cube with it at it's center, that water cannot exist in. It's less a sponge and more like some kind of water baleeting field. But as long as you plug up wherever the leak is coming from, any water it deletes will stay gone.

[Dukefrukem]

I was tellin Goronmon that I'm totally coming in and nuking everyone's monuments.. bwhahahaha

[Ink Asylum]

The sponge essentially creates a 5-block cube with it at it's center, that water cannot exist in. It's less a sponge and more like some kind of water baleeting field. But as long as you plug up wherever the leak is coming from, any water it deletes will stay gone.

Ah. That's odd behavior but definitely useful. So you could plug the leak, drop a bunch ten blocks away from each other, then once every square of water is sponged away delete the sponges and the room will be dry?

I was tellin Goronmon that I'm totally coming in and nuking everyone's monuments.. bwhahahaha

Seriously?

[Dukefrukem]

Seriously?

Yes. But I was kidding... lol

[Ink Asylum]

Yes. But I was kidding... lol

Phew. :) I assumed such. You don't strike me as the griefing type.

[BrassGecko]

I finally tried the in-development survival mode, with the crafting and all.. and yeah, that would be AWESOME multiplayer.

[BrassGecko]

Special note to ClannerDelta: If you're going to shoot at my wizard-blimp, you shouldn't park over my super-evil-looking castle!
http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2826

(I can remove it all easily)

[Hawkzombie]

I know...I can't wait until he opens up MP survival.

And there's a hidden mudkip somewhere out there?!? GOOD LORD.

[J Arcane]

Ah. That's odd behavior but definitely useful. So you could plug the leak, drop a bunch ten blocks away from each other, then once every square of water is sponged away delete the sponges and the room will be dry?

Exactly right. Much easier than the old square by square method we'd been doing.
I finally tried the in-development survival mode, with the crafting and all.. and yeah, that would be AWESOME multiplayer.
Honestly, I think multiplayer is the only way survival mode will be playable. And the additional depth could definitely benefit the longevity of a server.

[Hemalin]

Ah. That's odd behavior but definitely useful. So you could plug the leak, drop a bunch ten blocks away from each other, then once every square of water is sponged away delete the sponges and the room will be dry?
Since the discovery of sponges, they have been quickly showing up all over the map. Check the hub for example.


We'll be done building when we run out of room. http://67.227.189.160/%7Ecolonyof/cogforums/images/smilies/smile.gif There's still a good chunk of above-ground space left for new projects, though it is running out. There's not much behind the castle walls yet. I found a nice big spot there to begin building my world tree, and there's still lots of room for other structures.
Ya, there's still plenty of above ground area on the other side of the wall. If you're going to be digging underground around the world tree and hot air balloon be careful since I've been playing with water and lava in that area.

[Ink Asylum]

I was reading the wiki and it said that sponges can absorb water even through other blocks, so you can hide them, for example, as the outside corners of a cube room and it will be waterproof while the sponges remain unseen.

[Hawkzombie]

Yeah, I've hidden a few around my place, just in case.

[RandoM51]

Most of my stuff has embedded sponges around the doorways. I added a bunch of sprites today around the sunken scraper.

[ClannerDelta]

Special note to ClannerDelta: If you're going to shoot at my wizard-blimp, you shouldn't park over my super-evil-looking castle!


(I can remove it all easily)

Haha, no, that's perfect. Still not going to save your poor Hindentanic. :p

[Hemalin]

The tree looks to be coming along nicely.

I'm spreading some grass up to the top right now. I'll clean up the dirt blocks when that's finished,

[AntonB]

The tree looks to be coming along nicely.

I'm spreading some grass up to the top right now. I'll clean up the dirt blocks when that's finished,

Made the outer edges of the treeline, gonna round them out a little bit later.

Left the inside empty so that branches can be filled in... :D


*EDIT* Oh, and Gordon Freeman complete.

[RandoM51]

Added:

Batman
Bridge
Stubby-marine
Sea serpent
Sat Dish
Golden Arches
Added magma highlights to the sunken scraper.

[BrassGecko]

Added:

Batman
Bridge
Stubby-marine
Sea serpent
Sat Dish
Golden Arches
Added magma highlights to the sunken scraper.

Haha, your little corner just went absolutely crazy today.

[RandoM51]

Yeah, I'm pretty much out of room over there now. :)

[Hotcod]

i think it maybe time to move to larger map and start some grand projects. There's still room to do stuff but I've just got the hankering to do something HUGE

[J Arcane]

So, I'd love to login and check shit out, but I can't get it to work. Java keeps throwing up some security error, and the applet itself errors out and fails to load the loading screen.

Anyone else having issues? Is there a new version of either Java or Minecraft out or something?

[Arphahat]

So, I'd love to login and check shit out, but I can't get it to work. Java keeps throwing up some security error, and the applet itself errors out and fails to load the loading screen.

Anyone else having issues? Is there a new version of either Java or Minecraft out or something?

I am able to log in. Maybe whatever was the problem is gone? Try again.

[RandoM51]

I checked my stuff today too. It did seem to take 2-3x longer than normal to connect/load, but I did get in.

[AntonB]

i think it maybe time to move to larger map and start some grand projects. There's still room to do stuff but I've just got the hankering to do something HUGE

If we do that, I highly recommend that we have some sort of plan this time around! Get everyone down on one big project or something... like the tree we have now.

[RandoM51]

Plans are the enemy of creativity.

[Ink Asylum]

If we do that I'd vote for fantasy elements to match the generic tileset. I'd love to help build a huge are full of castles, towns, floating islands, caves, ruins, etc.

[BrassGecko]

It does seem to take slightly longer to load now, but at least part of it's just that it takes up a fair chunk more memory than it used to. It's also possible that variations in my internet mess with peoples' connections sometimes. Other than that, as far as I can tell, it's running about the same as it has been.

For any sort of larger map, I think someone else is going to have to be the host. This current map isn't terribly taxing and I could support bigger.. except that as I've said before, the computer that it's on DOES have other things to do. This one doesn't interfere with that, a larger one would begin to give me issues. Anyone have a computer with nothing better to do?

[Hemalin]

Just as long as there isn't a great wall next time. That seemed to unnecessarily segregate the landscape.

What sort of options are there for a larger map? Do you have fully control over the Height, depth and land area or are there only preset sizes?

[Ink Asylum]

Ah. I had no idea that a Minecraft server had to be constantly running on a server computer. I should have realized that. Thanks for setting yours up, BrassGecko!

[J Arcane]

I do know that if we do make a new server, I:

1) want a back up copy of the old one's save file. I spent a lot of time in there damnit!

2) Want to build as exact a copy of the castle layout from Dragon Warrior as possible.

[BrassGecko]

Ah. I had no idea that a Minecraft server had to be constantly running on a server computer. I should have realized that. Thanks for setting yours up, BrassGecko!

Sorry if I worded that badly, it'll run on any pc. The link to the software is right above the server list: http://minecraft.net/servers.jsp

And actually, I've got a somewhat elderly pentium 3 computer sitting around doing nothing. If that can run the server, then I've got no problem trying a bigger one. I'll mess with it this evening and see how it goes.

Edit:
I do know that if we do make a new server, I:

1) want a back up copy of the old one's save file. I spent a lot of time in there damnit!

When this fills up to the point that we want to call it done, I'll back it up and upload it so people can hold onto the save if they want it, and we can try to set up something fancier.
:p

[RandoM51]

I was thinking of replicating Konoha Village. Lots of round building though, bleh.

[J Arcane]

I was thinking of replicating Konoha Village. Lots of round building though, bleh.
Kakariko instead maybe? ;)

[MagGnome]

How did I miss this? What an awesome game!

I logged in using the link that Brass gave earlier in the thread, but I didn't see any of the stuff in the pics. Did the server move?

[BrassGecko]

How did I miss this? What an awesome game!

I logged in using the link that Brass gave earlier in the thread, but I didn't see any of the stuff in the pics. Did the server move?

Try again. :o

Sorry to anyone who tried to connect while it was down, I did a stupid!

[Hawkzombie]

How did I miss this? What an awesome game!

I logged in using the link that Brass gave earlier in the thread, but I didn't see any of the stuff in the pics. Did the server move?

God, and I made you a gnome effigy too :p

[MagGnome]

God, and I made you a gnome effigy too :p

I saw that, awesome! :D


Edit - I'm still not seeing the COG server. It just generates a random level every time I click on BrassGecko's link.

[Arphahat]

I saw that, awesome! :D


Edit - I'm still not seeing the COG server. It just generates a random level every time I click on BrassGecko's link.

You are probably clicking the wrong link. Here (http://minecraft.net/play.jsp?server=b543de72f3a6f2f6603b32ff2531437e).

[MagGnome]

Nope, I still get a randomly generated level. Why is this happening?

I'm going to make dinner. I'll try again later.

[BrassGecko]

Nope, I still get a randomly generated level. Why is this happening?

I'm going to make dinner. I'll try again later.

Have you registered? If you aren't logged in, you'll be stuck in single-player.

[Hawkzombie]

Nope, I still get a randomly generated level. Why is this happening?

I'm going to make dinner. I'll try again later.

Are you logged in? If not, you can't access the saved servers.

[Panthera]

Hey, I hear you should try logging in.

[Hawkzombie]

Hey, I hear you should try logging in.

Shut up, I didn't see Brass' reply :p

[Ten19]

Have you registered? If you aren't logged in, you'll be stuck in single-player.

This is what you need to do. So say we all.

[Lint of Death]

If logging in doesn't work, reset your CMOS.

[Hawkzombie]

If logging in doesn't work, reset your CMOS.

I just lost so ha-

Oh, wait. Wrong thread.

I dare someone to sky write "Reset your CMOS" in there.

[BrassGecko]

Well it's not in the sky, but it appears someone took you up on that.
http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2836

Fun fact: More than two dozen people have joined the server, either to build or look around, JUST with names that I've seen on there and put on the admin list for teleporting purposes. Good stuff, peoples!

[AntonB]

I'm down for a new server with a theme... it doesn't have to be larger if it will be taxing. I think we can manage with another room that's the same size as our current one.

[Hawkzombie]

Well it's not in the sky, but it appears someone took you up on that.
http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2836

Fun fact: More than two dozen people have joined the server, either to build or look around, JUST with names that I've seen on there and put on the admin list for teleporting purposes. Good stuff, peoples!

Yeah that was me :p LOL

[Ravenlock]

It's my intention to talk this up on the next ImmortalMachines podcast episode, so I've been talking it up to those folks and asking them to come check out your stuff as well. :)

[MagGnome]

I guess I'll try logging in then. :p


It's my intention to talk this up on the next ImmortalMachines podcast episode, so I've been talking it up to those folks and asking them to come check out your stuff as well. :)

I would have missed this if not for you. Thanks!

[GrenMag]

Finally managed to jump on board for a bit last night. The 3d pixel art skills on display there are quite impressive.

Since it is "Mine"craft (and there's not much surface real estate available), I took to trying to dig out an underground meeting hall. I had no idea the water table was so high, though. Good thing you can't drown yet...

[Ink Asylum]

Sponges are your friends.

[GrenMag]

Sponges are your friends.

Ah, thanks. I just started browsing through the Minepedia and found out about that:

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page

[BrassGecko]

Server's going to be down for a bit while I try to figure some stuff out!

Edit: Okay, I've got it back up and running on a different computer, and it seems to be doing fine. I'm not sure if I can host two on there at the same time or not, but I'll mess with that more this weekend. If anyone wants to hunt down or generate a map to use next time, feel free.

[MagGnome]

I finally logged on. You guys are incredible! I really hope we start a new map soon and everyone joins in again. Exploring the world that COG has created is a lot of fun. I'm extremely impressed with the work that has been done.

[Hawkzombie]

I've been dinking around in single player survival. I'll post some shots soon.

[Hawkzombie]

BEHOLD! The Island of Doctor Hawk.

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/1.png
http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/2.png

I've tried playing this several times before, and each time I die before I can really get anywhere. I love the look of the floating, but getting resources is a bitch as they generally aren't tall enough to hold many important resources (such as coal and iron). I've also discovered that the different 'themes' are also a means of difficulty. Paradise = no monster spawns and a more 'tropical' theme (more sand, flowers, etc), Normal = regular monster spawns (at night or in pitch black caves), and a regular looking theme, Hell = far harder, no water (all replaced with lava, might have water underground however) and monsters spawn any time day or night.

Anyway, I finally settled on an island instead of floating, and am having a ton of fun with it.

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/3.png

Right next to my spawn point and 'house' I found a small cave area with a good access to coal and a little iron, which was really awesome. However, the deeper I got, I heard footsteps, and found out just one block away was a small group of zombies. After killing them I explored the cave in full. It was MASSIVE with 4 'chambers' so far.

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/5.png

I've walled up some sections I've yet to explore and light (to keep monsters from spawning under my nose) and I'm trying an experiment. The only entrance to my cave is now underwater so i don't have to constantly wall it up for the night whenever I head into my sanctuary. I've also funneled water from the exterior inward to hydrate my farm.

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/4.png
http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/6.png

You can 'smelt' glass blocks using a furnace and sand, so I've been able to make a sort of underground cove area to harvest wheat.

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/7.png

Yes, that's a tree. Apparently if they have enough light (even torches) trees can flourish underground. My next plan is to explore further (I believe I found a lake of lava under my main room) and channel water throughout the area. I think the idea of skylights is also a perfect way to keep it well lit, as in future developments torches will have a finite burn time.

Man, this game is awesome.

Once I've got enough experience in Normal, I plan on doing the same with a Hell difficulty.

[AntonB]

Might actually spring for this soon if we get enough of a community going!

[Hawkzombie]

Go for it! Once MP survival mode happens, this game's gonna be insane.

Also, my tree doesn't have enough light :p They take about 1-2 minecraft days to grow, and mine's been there for a week.

[Hawkzombie]

I've been working non-stop on my underground lair.

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Hawkzombie/Minecraft/8.png

This is still just the first chamber too.

[Hotcod]

danm you hawk, i just sprung for the indev.... lol

edit:

any one want to tell me what the heck i'm meant to be doing?

[Ink Asylum]

I bought a subscription. :)

Getting started is tough, especially surviving your first night. I've died a couple times already. My plan now is to harvest as much wood and cloth as possible before the first night falls. If I see some ore I'll make an attempt to get it but it's not a priority.

Then I board myself in and start making wooden tools and cloth armor. I also dig up my floor to make a stone sword. I dug a hole outside so I hope some of the enemies will fall in before morning. I can hear them walking around out there....

Fighting is tough and I hope to kill a couple spiders tomorrow morning to make a bow and some skellies for arrows, which should make it a bit less dangerous. Then I'll try to find a cave I can start to use as a base once I have the materials to make torches.

[BrassGecko]

Remember that you can trim some wood planks off each edge of that starting shed it gives you. Along with that stone floor, it's an extra-nice starting boost. I generally just wall up the entrance for the first night or two until I have a two-high wall around the whole place. Then I spend the nights digging down below the starting shack or adding to that wall, and the daytime out looking for coal, metals, and spots for fancier construction.

[Ink Asylum]

I don't think I'm saving correctly. I go to save, then when I load there's nothing there and it's asking me to look for files on my computer in an empty folder. Is saving functional?

[MagGnome]

Okay, you guys are making this game sound even more awesome. I've only messed around on the COG server, so a lot of what Ink, Brass, and Hawk are talking about is a little confusing. What's all this about monsters and resource gathering? Is the single player vastly different from the multiplayer/COG server? What's the deal with farming?

[Ink Asylum]

We're talking about Survival mode, which currently is only single player. Unlike in Creative, you have finite resources to build. For example, if you want to build a wooden wall you need to cut down trees, which you can do by hand but faster if you craft an axe, using a workbench you also create from wood, etc.

Enemies spawn at night either outside or wherever it is dark inside. You place torches on walls to create a safe home for yourself at night. In the morning you fight off the enemies that are still alive (skeletons, for example, die in sunlight), then go collect resources.

[Adam Blue]

I can't believe this is here. I raved about this on my podcast (http://www.bluegamer.net/2009/07/22/bluecast-episode-19-lets-get-technical/) a while back but it seemed this game lost interest...

This stuff I'm seeing is amazing though. Awesome.

[MagGnome]

That sounds great Ink! What happens if you die, and what's the point of farming? Can you grow crops or something?

I think I'm going to pick this up, despite my "don't buy anything" rule.

[Hawkzombie]

Ok, here's my run down to help people with any questions:

Don't select a save slot within the game Always choose Save File. I went for a while thinking the save slots were working, but when I went to load they were gone. Saving the file allows you to load it whenever you want. It defaults to a temp folder for the game, but I generally keep backups of my days events in another folder just in case windows does something stupid and clears it.

Farming works pretty nicely. I basically get water to dirt blocks, and craft a hoe (there's a wonderful link to crafting (http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Crafting) in the wiki). I usually don't waste iron on those as I've got more than enough stone after my cave building. Now, with the freshly 'tilled' dirt block, you want to get it hydrated. You need a water tile within 4 blocks (diagonally included) of the tilled tile. It will then become dark, and thus hydrated. Now, to get seeds to plant for the first time, go and till grass. Any grass, anywhere. It's random and you'll get 0-3 seeds each time. Now, using the seeds, right click the hydrated tilled block and simply wait. They need sunlight. After a day or two of minecraft time, the grass they grow will become golden, and ready to harvest. Left click it with any tool and it'll produce wheat and 0-3 seeds.

You make bread by using the workbench and crafting 3 wheat together in a straight row.

If you haven't saved, you lose everything when you die. There's no respawning or anything (yet...might only be for infdev) so you need to save often. I've had monsters still sneak into my lair from areas I haven't lit up properly and scare the shit out of me. Also, oddly enough, animals (pigs and sheep) spawn from sunlit areas, so the damn things have been spawning on my crops underground :p

Infdev is the new mode the creator has made that basically creates a world that is infinite in theory. Which ever direction you go in, it creates more world randomly. Currently, there are no monsters, but if you die you can choose to respawn or load a save, and you drop everything you were carrying when you die, so you can go and pick it back up again.


The first few nights are the roughest. Go out, scout a location near where you are, and DIG. You want to find coal and iron as soon as possible. I got super lucky with my first dig site ALSO opening to that awesome cave system. But my goal was to excavate a huge chunk of land, and then build a defensible position somewhere more inland. However, my water trick is working beautifully. See, monsters can't swim, and if you're near them (even if you're underground and they're topside) they move towards where you are. So if I walk towards my cave entrance, I can hear them bobbing in the water.

Anyway, once it starts to get dark, go back to your house, and wall up the door with dirt. Anything that will keep the badguys out and get to crafting. I usually give myself a sun roof to see when day breaks and it's safer to go out to continue digging. Once I sealed off my cave, I gave up on the house, and use it as a marker for the entrance now (you can easily get lost if you don't pay attention or leave markers for yourself)

BUILD CHESTS. Seriously. Spare 16 wood and build two next to each other for the big chest, and store everything in them until you get a handle on things. You never know when you might want something, even for aesthetic value.

Harvest cloth from sheep, and build armor. It helps a LOT, and as far as I know, the durability is the same no matter what material it is crafted from, and sheep wool is the easiest to find. I could be wrong though. But for a while I had a gold helm, iron boots and chestplate, and brown pants. I simply liked the look.

Make a sword, even if it's out of stone. It helps a lot as well to kill things, but keep in mind durability: All tools have it, and it depends on the material. Wood and gold are the softest and weakest, so they only last about 32 uses. Stone doubles that. Iron doubles stone, and Diamond doubles Iron.

I think that should be enough for people to get started...

Oh! The painting I made is random, and created by making the chest shape with the wood blocks, and a piece of cloth. It's random when placing, so if you get one you don't like, 'mine it' to drop it and replace it.

[BrassGecko]

I don't think I'm saving correctly. I go to save, then when I load there's nothing there and it's asking me to look for files on my computer in an empty folder. Is saving functional?

When you go to save, ignore all those save slots and click Save to File down at the bottom. It took me like 3 deaths and new world starts to notice that!

Edit: Beat'd by the wall of text! Nice summary, Hawk.

[Hawkzombie]

Also, another neat thing about saving the file, is you can then share it with others.

EDIT: Found the path for the files and the infdev worlds (they're stored in folders and autosave constantly)

USERNAME>AppData>Roaming>.minecraft>saves

Dunno why I thought it was stored in some temp folder...

[MagGnome]

Yep, I'm buying this.

[Arphahat]

Yep, I'm buying this.

NOOOoooo! Don't do it, man! Think of all the other games you....

Yeah, I'm buying it, too. ;)

[Ink Asylum]

I hope the game gets a bit more complex. It'll never be a thousandth as complex as Dwarf Fortress but it's a lot easier to play.

I'd like to see furniture and other objects that I can craft, traps and defenses, etc. Just a door I can open and close without having to break it down would be nice.

[Arphahat]

OK, I give up. How do I actually use the workbench? I don't see a "use" key and hitting "I" next to it does nothing. Gimme a clue.

Edit:
Nevermind. You just try to build on the workbench with an element.

[Hawkzombie]

Just right click it :p

I hope the game gets a bit more complex. It'll never be a thousandth as complex as Dwarf Fortress but it's a lot easier to play.

I'd like to see furniture and other objects that I can craft, traps and defenses, etc. Just a door I can open and close without having to break it down would be nice.

Yeah, I'd love a door that keeps monsters out, honestly. Then I could build a proper entrance to my lair.

[Hawkzombie]

34942_GyNHY

Really neat interview with Notch, with some info on when it's going to be headed into Beta (looks like this summer or earlier)

One thing I like at the 4:15 point is the question of where he sees the game in 2 years. Notch basically says as long as people like it, he'll keep working on it. It seems like if he gets a lot of feedback on stuff, he'll implement things.

I haven't felt this way about a game like this in years. It's insane and my wife thinks I'm crazy.

[Hotcod]

I've seemed to have found something that works quite well, i started near water so based on hawks idea for a door i've made.... a moat! so far it's only 2 deep but it seems to stop the zombies getting up to the little island that is my house. I'm going to make it deeper and maybe use hawks idea of a water entrance but only from the moat to the island so i can work on building a house that is more like a house

edit:

it's morning and I have a moat full of monsters, which is rather amusing/annoying hehe I think I dug it a little to close so next time bigger and deeper so if they fall in they go way down. I've also got a mine shaft in my house that has come out in a big cave system with lava. So plan now is to deepend the moat and build a inner wall and then lay the ground work for a second moat and wall around a larger section of land so I can farm and build a dedicated mine shaft building and the like... gah addicting!

[MagGnome]

NOOOoooo! Don't do it, man! Think of all the other games you....

Yeah, I'm buying it, too. ;)

It's more than five dollars though! :p

So if I buy the indev will I get access to the full version when it hits as well?

[Hotcod]

It's more than five dollars though! :p

So if I buy the indev will I get access to the full version when it hits as well?

http://www.minecraft.net/prepurchase.jsp

When Minecraft is finished, it will sell for €20.00.
If you pre-purchase now during alpha, you pay just €9.95!
The price will go up at beta.

Please log in or register to pre purchase.
(Click here to buy the game for someone other than yourself)

Here's what you get:

You never have to pay again!
You get all future versions of the game, including all expansions and addons.
You help fund the development of Minecraft
Custom skins in multiplayer
Once you've bought the game, it's yours. No DRM.
Survival mode!
Planned expansions:

Zombie Siege
Build your defenses during the day, fend off the incoming masses during night.
Capture the Flag
Defend your base and flag against the enemy team while trying to steal their flag.
Various custom level mods
Want to import a doom map? How about playing in a random dungeon?
And more!
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[J Arcane]

So when are we going to get a fresh server? Seems like everyone's interest has sort of died off now that the server's basically packed full, there's never anyone on when I play. Or is everyone just playing survival mode?

[Hotcod]

now i have the indev i've been playing survival mostly, there just don't seem much left to do with out map... something new with new big projects would be good

[MagGnome]

I bought it! I'm going to try survival mode out, but I would love to see a new COG server as well. The old one is great!

[BrassGecko]

I can put up a new server at any time. If I just have it generate a map, it'll be the same size as this one. If we want anything bigger or fancier I'll take a look at the map editors that are out there. I know we've got a couple people who will have issues running it if we make it too huge, so keep that in mind as well.

So, what do we want?

I'm now setting an arbitrary cutoff for 8pm EST. If you've got anything else you want to build on the old server or projects that need finishing, get them done before then (or let me know and I'll wait, it's not a super serious cutoff). At that point, I'll take the server down and post a link for anyone who wants to download a copy of the map, and we can start fresh.

[Ink Asylum]

I think a lot of us are playing Survival mode at the moment, myself included.

I built a second house up on the highest hill on my map. From there I'm pretty safe from any monsters, as they can't climb up to the peak. It's a bitch to kill them in the morning, though.

I plan to try burrowing into the floor of that house during the night. I have a lot of torches so I should be able to light as I mine out minerals and eventually a large central base.

[BrassGecko]

I found an editor that seems easy enough to use.

http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2915

If we want a larger or more customized world, that's what we've got to play with.

[MagGnome]

That looks like a simple editor. I'm going to play survival mode, but I'm also up for having another COG server that we can all contribute to.

[Hotcod]

I think the main thing we need is a bigger sky limit, i'd like a bigger map over all but the save size but taller would work :)

[Hawkzombie]

Yeah, definitely need the height :p

And sadly hotcod: Monsters float. So no matter how deep it goes, they'll always tread along the top. It's great if you have an underwater entrance like I do, but terrible if you don't :p

Honestly, I found ANOTHER large cave system UNDER my existing one, and actually found diamonds (best for making tools) over a bed of lava which was sitting under a lake. Kinda a cool effect and I'll take a picture soon. I spent a good amount of time digging and lighting the place up....but forgot to save, and somehow a bomb guy got in and blew me up as I was heading back up the stairs to my main chamber. Guess there wasn't enough light.