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Xerxes

10-24-2008, 03:57 AM

http://images.apple.com/moviesxml/s/independent/posters/sukiyakiwesterndjango_l200808281623.jpg (http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/sukiyakiwesterndjango/)

For some reason I don't like Quentin Tarantino. Seeing his face through out the trailer was annoying and painful for me. I almost shut it off as soon as he popped up. But if this movie doesn't look good. Maniacs, samurai swords and gunslinging; I don't think I could ask for anymore.

Click the picture for a link to the trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/sukiyakiwesterndjango/). Or the word trailer. <shrug>

Carnifex

10-24-2008, 08:13 AM

I saw it at the Films From The South festival here in Norway. The presentation is top notch, with great cinematography and editing. Sadly the story and dialogue is rather average, if that. Also, the story is the same as the Kurosawa movie that Last Man Standing is based on (don't remember the title). Having all characters speak engrish was a big mistake in my opinion. Some characters could barely be understood.

Miike's movies are very hit and miss, and I would call this a miss. Like Izo. Man, that was a weird (and bad) movie.

rinichanraar

10-24-2008, 11:57 AM

I've actually been wanting to see this for awhile, and it was showing at an independent theater here, but I think I may have missed my chance. I've always loved Takashi Miike.

Honestly, I think Quentin Tarantino's kind of annoying and full of himself, but I think he's allowed to be because he knows his shit. I haven't seen Jackie Brown, but aside from that, I love every movie he writes and directs (as in, movies he has the writing AND directing credit for). Even though I wasn't a huge fan of Death Proof, I definitely could see where he was going with it, and he had Robert Rodriguez beat out if you want to consider which of the two was more like a real "B-movie."

If I ran into him on the streets, I'd be a bit starstruck I think.

Anyway, not to derail the thread. Takashi Miike is cool, and I want to see that movie.

Xerxes

10-24-2008, 12:24 PM

Who ever one came up with Machete (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machete_(film))has the more real B-Movie. I hope someone makes that soon. Trejo isn't getting any younger.

shunoshi

10-24-2008, 12:27 PM

I'm on this. Takashi Miike is one of my favorite Japanese directors. Mix that with Tarantino and it has to be good.

Pureboy

10-24-2008, 02:27 PM

rinichanraar

10-24-2008, 02:30 PM

I want to see this. Miike is one of the most eclectic and prolific auteurs around. He releases a few movies a year, and his work ranges from family-friendly faire like Zebraman and The Great Yokai War, to made-for-tv drama like Sabu, to balls to the wall insane flicks like Gozu and Ichi the Killer.
I'm curious if the Japanese actors can actually pull off English dialogue.

I actually saw Zebraman for the first time on IFC or something, and I thought it was totally cute and funny (which is not something I've ever said about a Takashi Miike movie). :)

Pureboy

10-24-2008, 02:32 PM

Also, the story is the same as the Kurosawa movie that Last Man Standing is based on (don't remember the title).That would be Yojimbo, and it is an absolute must-see.

What I love best about Yojimbo? So much to choose from- the last line in the film, the bad-ass Mifune-ness... and the mix of East and West.

Kurosawa was tremendously influenced by the westerns of John Ford, and adapted a Dashiell Hammet novel into a samurai western. Sergio Leone then turns it into a spaghetti western (Fistful of Dollars), and then Last Man Standing is made, turning it into a slightly more modern gangster flick. There is also an anime about a modern-day school bodyguard (Kaze no Yojimbo)

Crazy history, but of all these, Yojimbo is the best.

Pureboy

10-24-2008, 02:38 PM

I actually saw Zebraman for the first time on IFC or something, and I thought it was totally cute and funny (which is not something I've ever said about a Takashi Miike movie). :)Yeah, so far I've seen City of Lost Souls, the last Dead or Alive movie (not based on the video game series), Ichi, Yokai, Sabu, and part of Audition. I have a bunch more that I haven't seen yet, and really would like to check out the cannibal musical Happiness of the Katakuris. All I can say is that he's incredibly talented, totally fearless, and can do any genre justice.

Didn't see Zebraman, but Yokai was a great fantassy kids movie! I couldn't believe it after the insane S&M depravity that was Ichi the Killer.

roboninja

10-24-2008, 02:41 PM

... I haven't seen Jackie Brown, ...

You should, I consider it one of his best.

crazyD

10-24-2008, 02:45 PM

...and really would like to check out the cannibal musical Happiness of the Katakuris.

Huh, didn't know he did that one. Very entertaining.

VerseD

10-24-2008, 03:04 PM

I love Yojimbo/A Fistful of Dollars so I really want to see this. I don't really mind Tarantino's eccentricities in the industry. He gets his name tacked onto foreign movies like Hero ("Quentin Tarantino Presents") which is good because it brings attention to movies that would otherwise get none. He's not a very good actor though.

shunoshi

10-24-2008, 03:24 PM

Pureboy

10-24-2008, 03:48 PM

I've seen quite a few Miike films. Fair warning, Visitor Q will probably leave mental scars should you choose to watch it. It makes Ichi The Killer look tame.

+1 on Yojimbo. Anyone who hasn't seen that movie should. Very well done.*Mental note to watch Visitor Q when easily freaked-out wife is away*

Don't get me started on Kurosawa- I've seen 19 of his 31 films (gotta love NYC arthouses), and most of them are impressive. I walked into my favorite video store while on vacation last week, and almost cried that they had a whole shelf of Kurosawa, and I had no time to watch them!

I guess Kurosawa films should be left for another discussion...

Xerxes

10-24-2008, 04:10 PM

I so wanted to get into a bunch of those movies, I just haven't yet. This does have the spaghetti western look with the style of something like Azumi.

shunoshi

10-24-2008, 04:20 PM

*Mental note to watch Visitor Q when easily freaked-out wife is away*

Don't get me started on Kurosawa- I've seen 19 of his 31 films (gotta love NYC arthouses), and most of them are impressive. I walked into my favorite video store while on vacation last week, and almost cried that they had a whole shelf of Kurosawa, and I had no time to watch them!

I guess Kurosawa films should be left for another discussion...

I still need to see Sanjuro, is that as good as Yojimbo?

Johan

10-24-2008, 04:21 PM

Watching the trailer, I couldn't help but think that it's a perfect Tarantino-style flick, even if he's not directing; it's just so over the top!!!

Xerxes

10-24-2008, 04:37 PM

Watching the trailer, I couldn't help but think that it's a perfect Tarantino-style flick, even if he's not directing; it's just so over the top!!!

No it's a Japanese flick. Tarantino's a follower. :mad:

Carnifex

10-25-2008, 04:07 AM

I'm curious if the Japanese actors can actually pull off English dialogue.
Some speak english well, others will make you go: Wuzzat?

That would be Yojimbo, and it is an absolute must-see.
Yes, it is! And me forgetting the name tells me it's time to watch some Kurosawa flicks again. I have yet to watch Hidden Fortress, Dersu Uzala and The Lower Depths (Donzoko).

Pureboy

10-25-2008, 07:06 PM

I still need to see Sanjuro, is that as good as Yojimbo?No, but its a fun movie- watching him interact with all these naive young samurai who look up to him is fun. And its also amusing that Tatsuya Nakadai (who later in his career replaces Mifune as Kurosawa's main actor) plays another role in this one- he was the villain in Yojimbo. Another fun non-Kurosawa directed one to watch is Zatoichi meets Yojimbo. I think its not technically the same character, but Mifune plays him as if he was.

I have yet to watch Hidden Fortress, Dersu Uzala and The Lower Depths (Donzoko).Hidden Fortress is fun, to see some of the inspiration for Star Wars, especially R2D2 and Threepio. the Lower Depths was good, and I have literally had Dersu from Netflix for over a year and still haven't watched it. If you are looking for something not normally thought of as Kurosawa cannon, check out the Kurosawa-written Runaway Train, with Eric Roberts, Jon Voight, and Rebecca De Mornay. After watching it I'm sure it would be a completely different movie with Kurosawa behind the camera. Okay, I'm going to start this as its own thread.

inmostlight

11-13-2008, 09:13 PM

Sukiyaki Western Django is finally out on DVD and Blu-Ray, I just watched it tonight. It was everything I had hoped for and more!

Xerxes

11-14-2008, 02:04 AM

Sukiyaki Western Django is finally out on DVD and Blu-Ray, I just watched it tonight. It was everything I had hoped for and more!

Wow... I didn't even know. I'll have to go pick this up.

Xerxes

11-14-2008, 12:14 PM

So far the first 5 minutes with QT could have been cut. I think it might be harder for the Japanese people to speak worse english than he just did.

Xerxes

11-15-2008, 09:27 PM

In the end, it was entertaining. The Gunkata was better than Ultraviolet.

nixpayn

11-17-2008, 05:32 AM

the funny thing about this movie is that none of the actors spoke english. and its not dubbed.

they learned their lines phonetically.

i saw this a couple months back and it was a pretty big let down. the story came down to 2 groups of idiots at either end of a town who were too sissy to just go to the other end of town and kill the other. with a small romance subplot that doenst matter.

still, the asian take on the spaghetti western is interesting.

Jeffool

11-17-2008, 05:35 AM

"Not too shabby." Best line delivered (taking into consideration the accents.)

But yeah, I found it fun.

crazyD

11-17-2008, 08:44 AM

I really enjoyed it. Granted, I was under the influence, and had no idea what was happening in the last half of the movie, but it was very nice to look at. Way too much QT, though. I figured he would just have a cameo, but his role was pretty major.

Xerxes

11-17-2008, 03:38 PM