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Jackel
03-18-2010, 01:31 PM
Civ IV 12 hour Game

Due to the overwhelming demand, I've decided to start up a second Civ 4 game. It will be set at 12 hours per turn so time your plays accordingly. There is space for 14 players and it is first come, first serve.

1) You will have up to 12 hours to complete your turn. If you do not complete your turn, you will be taken over by an AI. If you miss just one day, that's fine, you can claim your faction again later and keep playing. Otherwise, I'll invite someone else to take your place.

2) This will require the Beyond the Sword expansion. Warlords is not required, only BtS.

3) The game begins immediately. When everyone has taken their turn or (12 hours passes, whichever happens first) the next turn begins. There is no turn order - act fast if you want to take the initiative.

4) This is not a tournament or serious business in any way. Most of us aren't very good at this. Don't take it personally if someone stabs you in the back.

Under Multiplayer Goto Direct IP:
DirectIP: loki0wn.blogdns.net
Password: coggersunite


Stats can be found here:
http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=1761


Good luck and have fun.

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 02:02 PM
Excellent! I'm in. If we have difficulty filling up this game (which I can't imagine being the case), Clark messaged me to voice his interest in a 2nd game as well.

I'll try to get a move in during lunch.

Do we get to pick leaders? I guess I've never really done this before from the start, so I have no clue.

MagGnome
03-18-2010, 02:51 PM
I'm in! I jumped in and signed up as the Spanish. I guess that means I'm Queen Isabella. Save your jokes. :p

I'm already off to a better start in this game. One of the advantages of playing from the beginning, I suppose.

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 02:57 PM
I'm in! I jumped in and signed up as the Spanish. I guess that means I'm Queen Isabella. Save your jokes. :p

I'm already off to a better start in this game. One of the advantages of playing from the beginning, I suppose.

So the leaders must get determined during pregame setup then? Well, I see Montezuma on there. No one steal him or I'll punch you through the internet.

Jackel
03-18-2010, 02:58 PM
So the leaders must get determined during pregame setup then? Well, I see Montezuma on there. No one steal him or I'll punch you through the internet.

I set the leaders / civs on random.

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 02:59 PM
I set the leaders / civs on random.

Gotcha, makes sense. You can see all the leaders via that civstats link. Doesn't look like you can claim one from the site directly. I'll have to wait to login tonight after work since my wife brought me lunch I won't be near a wifi spot till after work.

Clark
03-18-2010, 04:32 PM
I'm in!

Installed Steam on my parents computer while on vacation to make sure I'm part of the world-stomping fun.

I need help.

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 04:35 PM
The lack of response here makes me a sad panda. I guess I can safely sign up Clark when I get home to take one of the spots...? Hopefully we get more takers tonight.

*EDIT* Oooh, Clark is fast and crafty...

Jackel
03-18-2010, 04:42 PM
Well...I might have to put the game on a temp hold. Apparently we have mold in the apartment and they are moving us for the night, and some experts are coming in to test it in the morning.

MagGnome
03-18-2010, 05:28 PM
Yikes! That's not good.

We can quit now and declare me the winner, if you guys don't mind. :D

Jackel
03-18-2010, 05:30 PM
Don't worry...it'll only go down for a day. They'll be telling us whether or not the move is permanent or just the one night.

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 05:49 PM
Well...I might have to put the game on a temp hold. Apparently we have mold in the apartment and they are moving us for the night, and some experts are coming in to test it in the morning.

Wow, that sucks, hopefully it doesn't put you out for long.

Satertek
03-18-2010, 05:58 PM
I'm in if there's still a spot Sunday night. Currently on spring break and it refuses to run on my netbook.

Jackel
03-18-2010, 06:25 PM
It has already started but I'll probably kill it here since I won't be able to keep my PC up until monday anyways.

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 07:05 PM
Are we officially postponed until further notice then?

Clark
03-18-2010, 07:23 PM
Are we officially postponed until further notice then?


Want to be back on board for Zulu in game 1 until Tuesday? I'm very down with it if you are.

MagGnome
03-18-2010, 07:26 PM
The server is officially down. I can confirm this.

Myself, Jackel, and Clark all took a turn. The rest of you should check out the stats page and figure out who you want to be when the game is back up.

Dukefrukem
03-18-2010, 07:27 PM
yes!!! in

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 07:52 PM
Want to be back on board for Zulu in game 1 until Tuesday? I'm very down with it if you are.

If you need to me, I'll continue running Zulu so you can focus on vacation. Up to you; doesn't matter to me.

The server is officially down. I can confirm this.

Myself, Jackel, and Clark all took a turn. The rest of you should check out the stats page and figure out who you want to be when the game is back up.

Yeah, I'm heading home from work right now, so no civ claiming for me. I'll keep an eye on this thread to see when things are back up and running. I'm still calling dibs on Montezuma.

Loki
03-18-2010, 08:37 PM
I'll jump on tonight when I get home.

MagGnome
03-18-2010, 09:54 PM
I'll jump on tonight when I get home.

It looks like someone didn't read the thread. :p

The server is down until Monday, according to Jackel.

Loki
03-18-2010, 10:23 PM
It looks like someone didn't read the thread. :p

The server is down until Monday, according to Jackel.

Hmm. Looks like I am going to have to ravage the College of Idaho till I find where he lives then and turn it on.

shunoshi
03-18-2010, 11:06 PM
Hmm. Looks like I am going to have to ravage the College of Idaho till I find where he lives then and turn it on.

Wait...umm...Alaska...? Good luck! :D

MagGnome
03-18-2010, 11:08 PM
Hmm. Looks like I am going to have to ravage the College of Idaho till I find where he lives then and turn it on.

Let us know when you do!

Whunpo
03-19-2010, 03:03 AM
Shit guys, I've got a busy few days ahead of me but I really want to get it set up. Could I get it all working in about an hour? That's about how much free time I have tomorrow...

Loki
03-19-2010, 03:04 AM
Wait...umm...Alaska...? Good luck! :D

Skills, man. Like bo-staff skills.

MagGnome
03-19-2010, 10:30 AM
Shit guys, I've got a busy few days ahead of me but I really want to get it set up. Could I get it all working in about an hour? That's about how much free time I have tomorrow...

The server is down for now. No one can play. :p

Once it comes up a turn only takes a few minutes.

Whunpo
03-19-2010, 01:24 PM
The server is down for now. No one can play. :p

Once it comes up a turn only takes a few minutes.

Yeah but setting up stuff? I'm not even sure I know what to do...

Panthera
03-19-2010, 01:30 PM
Yeah but setting up stuff? I'm not even sure I know what to do...

If you mean to start a game yourself, check out the discussion in the other thread, starting with this post: http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showpost.php?p=513458&postcount=151

Whunpo
03-19-2010, 03:11 PM
Yes, but do I join with Play by mail or Internet? I would try direct IP connection, but I don't know the IP. I'm generally confused. I've not played to many PC games online, and I've never done Civ with other people.
Do I have to load a mod or something? Internet connection wants me to make a gamespy account or something.

Jackel
03-19-2010, 04:54 PM
you'll join an Internet game, then login w/ Gamespy where you'll see a list of servers. Once it is up, you'll find the game listed there where you can use the password.

I got home early, but so that I don't surprise anyone. I'll officially turn the server on at Noon MST tomorrow. Unless everyone that has posted so far wants me to start it immediately, then I can do that.

Stoke
03-19-2010, 05:09 PM
I've always been curious about Civ online but never had the drive to look into it much. I was looking over the post in the other thread and saw "2) Make sure that you set turns to 'asynchronous' so that people don't have to take their turns in order."

How does that work when you're are war/in contact with another person? Whoever submits their turn first gets the jump? Same for technologies/religions? Say I had one turn left to finish building the Pyramids, would it be crucial for me to submit my turn asap so that if anyone else was set to finish it that turn I'd get it first?

Sorry if this is all elementary but I'm confused on how a turn based game can allow asynchronous turns. :p

Jackel
03-19-2010, 05:22 PM
I've always been curious about Civ online but never had the drive to look into it much. I was looking over the post in the other thread and saw "2) Make sure that you set turns to 'asynchronous' so that people don't have to take their turns in order."

How does that work when you're are war/in contact with another person? Whoever submits their turn first gets the jump? Same for technologies/religions? Say I had one turn left to finish building the Pyramids, would it be crucial for me to submit my turn asap so that if anyone else was set to finish it that turn I'd get it first?

Sorry if this is all elementary but I'm confused on how a turn based game can allow asynchronous turns. :p

Pretty much, the first one to play goes first?

shunoshi
03-19-2010, 05:46 PM
Pretty much, the first one to play goes first?

Yep, that about sums it up. It can suck in some respects but it's really to only way to keep the game moving with this many players.

BTW, my vote is to turn it on right now. Although, how many players are we sitting at? Like 5? No one else wants in on this action???

Stoke
03-19-2010, 05:51 PM
I'll join up if you guys want someone's ass to kick. ;)

Panthera
03-19-2010, 07:09 PM
Say I had one turn left to finish building the Pyramids, would it be crucial for me to submit my turn asap so that if anyone else was set to finish it that turn I'd get it first?

As far as military stuff goes, yeah, it's whoever goes first. But construction and tech seems to happen only when everyone's turn is done. Or, maybe it's at the start of your turn. I'm not sure.

nabokovfan87
03-19-2010, 08:29 PM
would love to play, just don't have the time (only home Friday thru Sunday). Do any of you have Civ IV: colonization?

Jackel
03-20-2010, 01:46 PM
Ok. this server is back up. so get your friends to join up so we have a full game :)

shunoshi
03-20-2010, 02:36 PM
Awesome, I'm in. I have a couple of friends that may be willing to join up. I believe one is a CoGer, but the other is not. You all alright with that? We don't really appear to have players busting down our door to get in.

Whunpo
03-20-2010, 02:59 PM
OK, I'm in. The mighty Japanese will destroy you all!

Jackel
03-20-2010, 03:15 PM
Yeah. Have them all join up Shunoshi. Coggers have had the chance to get in and post for a bit now. So I'd much rather have the game fill up.

shunoshi
03-20-2010, 04:14 PM
Alright, I have 2 friends that sound like they're going to join up and I have Midrael almost there as well. :D I wonder if TheKeck and SupermansDead have this game. We could get our whole D&D group in here, Clark! ;) I know Lint has it, but he bailed out of the last game. I'm guessing he's not ready to join another.

Loki
03-20-2010, 04:27 PM
I've joined up and may have one more in the wings.

shunoshi
03-20-2010, 04:34 PM
Alright, my two friends joined up. Looks like we have 6 slots left! I have one more friend that may be interested too.

Clark
03-20-2010, 05:20 PM
Alright, my two friends joined up. Looks like we have 6 slots left! I have one more friend that may be interested too.



And by friends you mean alt IDs.

;)

shunoshi
03-20-2010, 05:39 PM
And by friends you mean alt IDs.

;)

Hehe, wait, that's a great idea... :p

Jackel
03-20-2010, 08:05 PM
Something appears to have been corrupted because it looks to have reverted back to the previous save.

Panthera: If you still visit this thread, how often do you backup the file?

edit: for everyone else, check if you are still connected to your civ.

Panthera
03-20-2010, 08:26 PM
I only save whenever I need reset the server. I think it should still produce autosaves somewhere.

Jackel
03-20-2010, 08:30 PM
Awesome. Thanks. I was able to find the autosave directory, so everyone who played should be where they are at.

Whunpo
03-20-2010, 10:43 PM
Whenever I try to join a game it wants me to pick a new Civ. Am I doing it wrong?

EDIT: OK, never mind, I'm dumb.

Satertek
03-21-2010, 07:16 PM
I'm in.

Is there a password to register on the stats site?

MagGnome
03-21-2010, 07:54 PM
I don't believe that any password is needed to use the stats page.

Satertek
03-23-2010, 12:53 AM
I don't believe that any password is needed to use the stats page.

It's not necessary, just curious as to what it does, there's a message at the top that wants me to add it to my civstats account, then asks for some password.

shunoshi
03-23-2010, 10:21 AM
Hey all, I'm wondering what everyone thinks about starting the game over (since we're only in like the 3rd or 4th turn anyway) in order to change the player total to 9. I'm not a huge fan of playing human/AI mixed games as it can be a bit unfair (since AI aren't that smart).

Just a suggestion since no one has made any real progress yet anyhow. Thoughts?

Jackel
03-23-2010, 10:30 AM
I'd be down for that. Plus then I could let everyone choose a civilization / leader if you would like.

Clark
03-23-2010, 01:12 PM
I'm cool with it.

shunoshi
03-23-2010, 02:10 PM
Three is unanimous, right?

I'll stick with Montezuma. :D

MagGnome
03-23-2010, 05:59 PM
Sure, why not?

I want the Dutch!

Loki
03-23-2010, 07:21 PM
I'm down. Let me know.

Jackel
03-23-2010, 08:54 PM
Ok. I'll probably start it up tomorrow. Anyone else want to host it? I realized that I have to connect and reconnect to my vpn too often. If no one steps up and can get it to work, I'll host.

Whunpo
03-23-2010, 09:07 PM
Sounds OK with me.

Jackel
03-24-2010, 04:07 PM
Ugh....woke up this morning with a pretty bad stomach flu. Sorry about the delay.

I'd really appreciate it someone else could try hosting the game?

shunoshi
03-24-2010, 04:38 PM
I'd love to, but my router and networking knowledge are both constructed of 99% fail.

MagGnome
03-24-2010, 07:16 PM
I'm on DSL. It sucks. Sorry.

Loki
03-25-2010, 01:56 AM
I'll host it. Does anyone want a specific civ/leader? If so, I can set that up. Get your picks before Saturday morning and I'll begin the game at 12PM MST on Saturday for everyone to join. Should we do 9 or 12?

Whunpo
03-25-2010, 04:14 AM
I'd like Roosevelt please! Thanks dude!

Jackel
03-25-2010, 08:47 AM
Thanks for stepping up Loki.

I'll take Boudica if possible (Celts)

shunoshi
03-25-2010, 10:34 AM
Awesome, Loki!

Sign me up for Montezuma. I suggest going with 9. That's all we had going in the previous game. I'll check with my two friends to see what leaders they'd like to play and I'll make sure to post it here before Saturday.

Clark
03-25-2010, 12:22 PM
Zuluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

(wish I wasn't too lazy to post a video of that)

shunoshi
03-25-2010, 01:03 PM
Alright, spoke to my friends. They want Elizabeth and Ragnar. They're house hunting in Champaign over the weekend, so I'll have to make their first couple moves, but they'll be back on Monday.

Sounds like we just need to hear from Mags and Satertek and we should have our 9! :D

Loki
03-26-2010, 01:13 AM
Alright, I have tested pitboss on the server and everything seems to be working fine. I was wanting to raise the question of whether or not I can have the 'No Barbarian' option checked. I have had too many games in the past ruined in the first 20 turns because of barbarians ransacking their city. How do you folks feel about this?

Jackel
03-26-2010, 09:19 AM
No Barbarians sounds fine with me.

shunoshi
03-26-2010, 10:51 AM
Yeah, I'm not a fan of barbarians in MP games. I say check the box.

Whunpo
03-26-2010, 02:04 PM
I am good either way, which means that we'll probably be checking that box.

Lint of Death
03-26-2010, 05:01 PM
Hey, guys, I think my Internet can be used to play this game now!

If there's any space, I would like to play the Khmer.

shunoshi
03-26-2010, 05:45 PM
Ooooh, 10 players then, assuming Mags and Satertek actually want in this round. I'll shoot them both a PM.

Satertek
03-26-2010, 06:00 PM
Yea, I'm still in.

Don't really care what leader, will probably stick with Egyptian.

Loki
03-26-2010, 09:03 PM
Lint, have a racial/leader preference?

Clark
03-26-2010, 09:26 PM
Lint, have a racial/leader preference?

He wants the Khmer.

Lint of Death
03-27-2010, 11:17 AM
Yep! Khmer for me, please.

MagGnome
03-27-2010, 11:44 AM
I said earlier in the thread that I want to play as the Dutch. :p

Jackel
03-27-2010, 11:58 AM
When you get the server up Loki, pm me and I'll update the original post w/ the new details.

shunoshi
03-27-2010, 05:04 PM
When you get the server up Loki, pm me and I'll update the original post w/ the new details.

Loki has forsaken us... /cry

MagGnome
03-28-2010, 11:04 AM
Is the game up yet?

Remember, I want the Dutch. :p

Loki
03-28-2010, 11:59 AM
Ahh. Yea. Sorry about that. I'll begin the game in an hour.

Clark
03-28-2010, 12:46 PM
Thanks Loki!

Loki
03-28-2010, 01:02 PM
Game Name: Colony of Awesome Part Deux
PW:coggersunite

shunoshi
03-28-2010, 01:19 PM
Excellent!

I'll hop on as soon as I get home from work...stupid weekend OT...

Satertek
03-28-2010, 01:41 PM
So are barbarians officially off?

Lint of Death
03-28-2010, 02:01 PM
Thanks, Loki!

First turn taken. Will there be a website for this one?

shunoshi
03-28-2010, 02:02 PM
Thanks, Loki!

First turn taken. Will there be a website for this one?

I was just looking at this myself. I don't see the game listed on CivStats. Not running it?

Loki
03-28-2010, 02:33 PM
http://www.civstats.com/viewgame.php?gameid=1761

shunoshi
03-28-2010, 04:59 PM
Do not be alarmed by my manhandling of 3 civs. :D I'm covering for my friends while they are out of town. They didn't want to miss their turns, so I'm covering for them today. They'll be back tomorrow and taking over.

I almost named their capital cities "I <3 Ryan". :D

MagGnome
03-28-2010, 05:06 PM
I'm in! Hopefully I'll do better in this game than I am in the other one.

Jackel
03-28-2010, 10:54 PM
Ok. the main post is updated.

shunoshi
03-29-2010, 12:10 AM
BTW, how did we end up with 11 leaders? :p

Looks like we need another player, stat! :D

Whunpo
03-29-2010, 02:50 AM
Could one of us take it, but then just delete the settler/warrior, and lose?

Clark
03-29-2010, 08:05 AM
I almost named their capital cities "I <3 Ryan". :D

That would have been confusing for me since I named my capital that.

MagGnome
03-29-2010, 08:17 AM
I named my capitol Kindercare, so the person who destroys me might feel a shred of remorse. :p

shunoshi
03-29-2010, 12:21 PM
Not sure if the server is disconnected at the moment, but I'm timing out when trying to connect. May need to check on it...?

Loki
03-29-2010, 02:26 PM
I've checked it and it should be working fine.

Jackel
03-29-2010, 02:29 PM
Yeah. I just logged in a few minutes ago with no problems.

shunoshi
03-29-2010, 03:30 PM
Huh, shenannigans. Looks like I'll just have to miss my 2nd turn since getting through at work is not feasible.

Jackel
03-29-2010, 03:32 PM
Huh, shenannigans. Looks like I'll just have to miss my 2nd turn since getting through at work is not feasible.

I think that with 12 hour turns, most folks will miss one occasionally. I'm just glad that the game will get to the good parts a lot faster.

Satertek
03-29-2010, 04:41 PM
If you don't sign in and end your turn, it still advances your queues/research and units with a set waypoint still move, right?

shunoshi
03-29-2010, 04:42 PM
If you don't sign in and end your turn, it still advances your queues/research and units with a set waypoint still move, right?

I believe that is the current assumption.

MagGnome
03-29-2010, 07:35 PM
I hope that's what happens, because I missed my second turn as well.

Panthera
03-29-2010, 09:37 PM
If you miss your turn, the AI takes it for you I believe.

MagGnome
03-29-2010, 10:07 PM
I can confirm that this is the case. My orders proceeded as directed, so all is well.

Hopefully the AI doesn't change anything!

Satertek
04-02-2010, 03:36 PM
What's with the turns ending at different times? Are you taking the server down every day for a bit?

Would like to have at least some sort of standard time (preferably noon/midnight in some US time) to clearly separate each turn as one in the morning and one at night.

shunoshi
04-02-2010, 04:06 PM
What's with the turns ending at different times? Are you taking the server down every day for a bit?

Would like to have at least some sort of standard time (preferably noon/midnight in some US time) to clearly separate each turn as one in the morning and one at night.

Yeah, the server is definitely lagging with the timer. It's more like 15-18 hours instead of 12. :p

Loki
04-02-2010, 08:11 PM
I haven't been turning the server off and on. I'll take it down shortly after the new turn begins and start it back up at midnight MST and see if that clears up the issue.

Jackel
04-02-2010, 08:37 PM
I haven't been turning the server off and on. I'll take it down shortly after the new turn begins and start it back up at midnight MST and see if that clears up the issue.

I've noticed this happens with Panthera's server too...so I think it is just something that happens.

MagGnome
04-02-2010, 11:25 PM
Turn the server back on! I want to take my turn. :p

Loki
04-02-2010, 11:37 PM
So my cat turned off the server and the only copy I had was one from a couple days ago. Its up and I'll attempt to synchonize it tomorrow around noon. Currently, it is set to end its turn at 5AM MST.

Jackel
04-02-2010, 11:41 PM
So my cat turned off the server and the only copy I had was one from a couple days ago. Its up and I'll attempt to synchonize it tomorrow around noon. Currently, it is set to end its turn at 5AM MST.

Check for a backup. I thought I had lost mine, but the program itself auto-backups after each turn taken.

"C:\Users\*username*\Documents\My Games\beyond the sword\Saves\pitboss\auto"

Loki
04-02-2010, 11:43 PM
Brilliant. The server is offline and will be turned back on at 12AM tonight. (1.15 hours).

MagGnome
04-03-2010, 12:01 AM
I hope you can find a back up. Otherwise my score dropped. :eek:

shunoshi
04-03-2010, 01:31 AM
Well, looks like all we lost was 1 turn. Not too bad considering. ;)

Loki
04-03-2010, 04:10 AM
Hmm. Yea. I need to change out that outlet. Its old (1960's) and any movement near it makes it go down. I'll look into that later. Sorry about that inconvenience for everyone.

shunoshi
04-04-2010, 12:12 PM
Looks like we lost another turn last night (Had to redo my previous one). Is the server down right now?

Loki
04-04-2010, 02:06 PM
Server is up. Pitboss crashed at around midnight last night and had to restart again.

MagGnome
04-05-2010, 01:29 PM
Is the server down again? I tried to log in and play my turn, but I didn't see the game in the list.

Loki
04-05-2010, 07:47 PM
I'm unable to VNC into the server on my phone right now. I'll check into it when I get home.

Loki
04-06-2010, 02:23 AM
It looks like Pitboss crashed again. I wonder if that happens whenever the DHCP is re-leased. Something to look into later.

shunoshi
04-06-2010, 11:11 AM
Yeah, I was never able to connect last night at all. Didn't try this morning.

MagGnome
04-06-2010, 05:14 PM
I missed a turn as well.

Loki
04-06-2010, 07:09 PM
It should have been up for the last 17 hours or so now.

MagGnome
04-06-2010, 08:20 PM
It should have been up for the last 17 hours or so now.

Bah, don't bring facts into this. :p

I didn't have time to log on this morning. :o

Loki
04-07-2010, 12:27 AM
I was just hoping that it was still up. This has been a rather touch and go game so far and I apologize for the inconsistencies.

Lint of Death
04-07-2010, 09:39 AM
The game is up! I posted my latest turn just a little while ago. Thanks for being so attentive, Loki.

MagGnome
04-08-2010, 06:27 PM
What is going on? It says we were all eliminated?

BrassGecko
04-08-2010, 07:00 PM
http://www.flexamail.com/GetImage.ashx?id=2945

Loki
04-09-2010, 01:09 AM
Yea. Sorry. Mayan Calendar imploded. *I have no idea what you're talking about*

Satertek
04-10-2010, 04:57 PM
So is this still going? I haven't bothered to check the server in a week seeing these posts about the world ending and such.

Jackel
04-10-2010, 05:01 PM
Yes, it is.

Satertek
04-10-2010, 05:13 PM
Well that's annoying, thought it was on hold to sort out all the problems.

Jackel
04-10-2010, 05:21 PM
The world ending thing was a bug with civ stats, not Loki's server.

MagGnome
04-10-2010, 05:30 PM
The game is still very much alive. You might want to start playing again, Satertek. :p

Loki
04-19-2010, 03:02 PM
The game is going to be down for today. Parental figures forgot to pay the internet bill and I won't be home till later to restart it.

Loki
04-20-2010, 12:22 AM
Just got home and it looks to be up now.

shunoshi
04-21-2010, 11:26 AM
Appears to be down again. :(

Loki
04-21-2010, 08:28 PM
Its up now. Sorry.

shunoshi
04-21-2010, 08:50 PM
Haha, connection times out now. :(

Satertek
04-21-2010, 09:46 PM
I never realized how bloated the Civ 4 client is. The main reason I haven't been getting turns in is that it's a complete pain the the ass to start up. If I let it do it's load thing in the background, it crashes, then half the time it crashes on the cutscenes. I never noticed this when I go in for a 6 hour game, but to take a 15 second turn, it's just really irritating to spend 5 minutes trying to get it to open up.

Bring on that browser based Civ game Sid!

Edit: 5 crashes in a row now, I hate this piece of crap.

Loki
04-22-2010, 03:58 AM
Sorry. My brother has this fantastically idiotic assumption that if the internet is slow for any god damn reason, that means the router needs to be reset. and every time that happens, pitboss dies as well. Ill talk to him tomorrow and try to convince him not to do that.

MagGnome
04-22-2010, 09:41 AM
Are you really having that many problems loading the game Satertek? I haven't had issues, but I'm sorry to hear that it's not working for you. :(

The game is down again, btw. I was hoping to take my turn before I leave for class, but it's not a big deal. :)

Jackel
04-22-2010, 09:46 AM
Are you really having that many problems loading the game Satertek? I haven't had issues, but I'm sorry to hear that it's not working for you. :(

The game is down again, btw. I was hoping to take my turn before I leave for class, but it's not a big deal. :)

Yeah. I've gotten in the habit of lining up a few moves in advance for my troops / queuing production just in case I can't connect.

shunoshi
04-22-2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah. I've gotten in the habit of lining up a few moves in advance for my troops / queuing production just in case I can't connect.

That's probably a good idea. I haven't been able to login the past couple days as the downtime seems to coincide with the time I actually have available to login. :p

Whunpo
04-22-2010, 05:47 PM
Yeah same here. I haven't seen it up in a few days. I planned a few days ahead, but not this many. :(

Loki
04-22-2010, 07:35 PM
Its back up. I've made the computer a static IP so that it no longer crashes whenever the router decides to lease it and also for better maintenance in the future (issue was that the computer kept on changing IP addresses and the VNC port wouldn't dynamically change).

Sorry once again ya'll.

edit: Also, something that should have been done at the beginning, I have set up DynDns so that my home's IP address won't change either.

MagGnome
04-22-2010, 07:36 PM
Yeah. I've gotten in the habit of lining up a few moves in advance for my troops / queuing production just in case I can't connect.

How do you queue production? Whenever I click on something it replaces what I'm already building.

Kielaran
04-22-2010, 11:04 PM
How do you queue production? Whenever I click on something it replaces what I'm already building.

I haven't played Civ4 but in Civ3, it was shift click to queue production.

MagGnome
04-23-2010, 07:11 AM
Ah, I feel kind of stupid for not trying that. Thanks!

Satertek
04-26-2010, 02:32 AM
Went through and deleted everything related to Civ4 and redownloaded, seems to be working for the time being.

Kielaran
04-26-2010, 09:28 PM
Ah, I feel kind of stupid for not trying that. Thanks!

No problem! I may not even own Civ 4, but that doesn't keep me from lurking in this thread! :D

Whunpo
04-26-2010, 09:46 PM
This game never seems to be up for me when I look. Which is mostly why I haven't been taking many turns. This is disappointing, because I really like this setup :/

Loki
04-27-2010, 01:18 AM
Found a way to get it so Pitboss doesn't crash. It involves moving away from Gamespy and doing a DirectIP. Instead of going to Internet, go to Direct IP and type in loki0wn.blogdns.net

Everything should be the same but I have only tested it internally and unsure if it works outside of my network.

Edit: ClannerDelta tested it out and it seems to be working fine. I will put the game on hold till tomorrow night so that the information can be disseminated out accordingly.

Satertek
04-27-2010, 01:54 AM
So it's down till then? Wasn't able to connect.

Jackel
04-27-2010, 07:34 AM
Updated the first post, although like Satertek, I was unable to connect but I'm assuming you are keeping it down until tomorrow night.

Loki
04-27-2010, 04:51 PM
So it is up now. Make sure everyone else knows.

AversionFX
04-27-2010, 09:57 PM
I keep seeing these threads, and I keep wanting to participate somehow.

I've never played the Civ games, and I think the perceived largeness and depth to the games have turned me off. Is it a relatively traditional turn-based RTS? What kinds of games does Civ compare with?

MagGnome
04-28-2010, 07:15 AM
They are turn-based strategy games. Civilization really stands apart from most games in the genre, so it's hard to draw a good comparison. Think Age of Wonders or Master of Magic, but set in the "real world". That's the closest comparison I can come up with.

MagGnome
04-28-2010, 07:19 AM
Something is wrong with the server. The CivStats page says that a new turn is starting in -1 hour. Yes, negative 1 hour.


Edit - I was able to get in and take my turn just fine, so it appears that the problem is on CivStat's end.

Jackel
04-28-2010, 07:44 AM
My guess is that because he's using direct connection instead of gamespy, it might not be working with civ stats anymore. But I don't know enough about how it works to say.

Loki
04-29-2010, 12:42 AM
Not sure what the problem was but it seems to be doing everything fine now. Is everyone able to connect to the game fine?

Satertek
04-29-2010, 12:54 AM
CivStats has nothing to do with the Gamespy system so it should still work fine if set up right.

MagGnome
04-29-2010, 07:10 AM
It's working fine, but the CivStats page was/is out of sync with the game a bit. It might be working now. I haven't logged in to check.

Hawkzombie
04-29-2010, 07:04 PM
Savok bought this for me after he hated L4D2 to alieve his guilt over the fact I didn't have the money to spend on him :p

...And heaven help me I'm enjoying it.

Panthera
04-29-2010, 07:41 PM
Its back up. I've made the computer a static IP so that it no longer crashes whenever the router decides to lease it and also for better maintenance in the future (issue was that the computer kept on changing IP addresses and the VNC port wouldn't dynamically change).

Sorry once again ya'll.

edit: Also, something that should have been done at the beginning, I have set up DynDns so that my home's IP address won't change either.

Hey, that's a good idea. I'll be sure to do that for my hosting. How does a dynamic DNS entry help, though?

MagGnome
04-29-2010, 08:37 PM
Savok bought this for me after he hated L4D2 to alieve his guilt over the fact I didn't have the money to spend on him :p

...And heaven help me I'm enjoying it.

Welcome to the fold! :D

Loki
04-29-2010, 10:09 PM
Hey, that's a good idea. I'll be sure to do that for my hosting. How does a dynamic DNS entry help, though?

See how the address is now loki0wn.blogdns.net? Since I am on a residential connection, my public IP can change any time it feels like it. DynDNS makes it so that regardless what my IP address actually is, that loki0wn.blogdns.net will always point correctly to my server. Since I use VNC all the time, all I need to know is that address instead of a string of numbers that may or may not change. Also, I would recommend moving the server from using the gamespy and setting it up as a direct ip system like what I have. Hasn't crashed since.

Panthera
04-29-2010, 11:16 PM
That last bit answers my question. I couldn't figure out how that affected communication with the matchmaking server - of course it doesn't, you're skipping it entirely.

Loki
04-30-2010, 12:06 AM
Basically. The issue with pitboss crashing isn't pitboss itaelf losing connection. It was pitboss losing connection to gamespy servers.

Lint of Death
05-03-2010, 08:47 AM
Is the server still going down a lot? I'm worried that I might not be able to see the game anymore, even when it is up.

Clark
05-03-2010, 12:34 PM
I haven't seen it listed the last several times I checked.

MagGnome
05-03-2010, 06:12 PM
Did you guys follow the thread? The game is accessed via DirectIP now, not the Gamespy servers. Check the OP for the details.

Lint of Death
05-03-2010, 09:22 PM
Ah, OK. Submitted my turn!

Clark
05-05-2010, 07:55 AM
Did you guys follow the thread? The game is accessed via DirectIP now, not the Gamespy servers. Check the OP for the details.

I did follow the thread.........and I'm so embarrassed by what I was trying to do.


:o

Pulled my head out of my arse and back in the game!

Bandango
05-07-2010, 12:13 AM
I just bought this sucker on sale. Once school's done I kinda wanna squeeze into one of these games you guys got going.

MagGnome
05-07-2010, 07:10 AM
There are a few people who never seem to take their turns, so that might be possible.

Bandango
05-07-2010, 04:15 PM
Nice. Finals are next weekend.

shunoshi
05-07-2010, 04:52 PM
There are a few people who never seem to take their turns, so that might be possible.

That would be me...and both my friends. They gave up after trying to login a few times and having the game not be there.

As for me, I just sort of forgot about it after the whole downtime before the switch to direct IP. I'll try to login tonight... :o

MagGnome
05-07-2010, 08:15 PM
Yeah, it's sad that so few people are actually playing. :(

Bandango
05-09-2010, 03:17 PM
You know what, can I take over for someone who actually is mia? 2 turns per day wont keep me from my homework.

LordDon
05-09-2010, 05:47 PM
Not having Civ 4 complete I haven't paid attention to these threads. I'm paying attention to these threads now. (thank you steam deals!) How do I get in on this sweet sweet action?

MagGnome
05-09-2010, 06:33 PM
You might be able to take over for someone who hasn't actually been playing, but you'd likely start off at a disadvantage. Still, the games are still in the early stages, so it's not too late to catch up.

I'd PM the person running the server.

Loki
05-09-2010, 09:11 PM
If there is someone that is MIA, then I don't see a reason not to. Find out who is MIA and see if they'd be willing to relinquish the control. If so, then you're welcome to join us. If there is no contact in 72 hours, then it would be good there too.

Kielaran
05-10-2010, 12:41 PM
I now have the game as well. I need to make sure I can get it up and running, but once I can, I will be in to fill in for someone MIA, or to join in next game. :)

Loki
05-11-2010, 10:02 AM
There is one opening openings available and possible a second. PM me if interested.

Satertek
05-11-2010, 10:09 AM
Gonna make an effort to start keeping up with it again, I had stuff queued so I'm not too far behind.

Wish there was a way to queue up building a city at a certain location.

shunoshi
05-11-2010, 11:24 AM
Yeah, I'm going to attempt to keep up a bit more too. I've slacked on it big time. The Direct IP connection seems to be solid though...haven't had issues connecting since we switched to that.

Loki
05-11-2010, 01:34 PM
Yea. Thanks for ruining that. Looks like the server is down and I won't be home until 11 tonight.

shunoshi
05-11-2010, 02:52 PM
Yea. Thanks for ruining that. Looks like the server is down and I won't be home until 11 tonight.

Haha, that figures... :(

MagGnome
05-11-2010, 06:13 PM
Ryan has jinxed us. :(

Bandango
05-11-2010, 07:14 PM
I'm the English. Things are looking a little grim, but, long live the queen.

Loki
05-11-2010, 07:16 PM
Looks like its up. Could someone check for me?

Bandango
05-11-2010, 07:23 PM
ya its up i just took a turn

MagGnome
05-11-2010, 08:47 PM
I took a turn right after I made my post earlier, so if it was down it wasn't for long.

Long live the Queen!

Until I kill her. :D

Kielaran
05-13-2010, 10:19 PM
And I am officially in. Don't hurt me too bad, it's my first time! :)

Loki
05-15-2010, 03:48 PM
We still need 1 more if anyone is interested.

MagGnome
05-23-2010, 05:43 PM
I'm really confused.

I missed a turn yesterday. Today I logged in and was immediately told that I now have open borders with another player. I was never asked if I wanted this. The trade dialogue came up immediately and told me that the open borders were agreed upon. Does that mean that the AI accepted when I missed a turn? That's pretty stupid if so.

MagGnome
05-28-2010, 01:18 PM
Now I'm confused again.

Why did my in-game name change to Jacob? I didn't change anything. :confused:

Lint of Death
05-29-2010, 11:01 AM
Now I'm confused again.

Why did my in-game name change to Jacob? I didn't change anything. :confused:

It's possible that, on the connect to direct IP screen, your "Name" reset to your Windows username or whatever the game pulls it from. That happens to me sometimes. Mine resets to "Admin".

MagGnome
05-29-2010, 11:21 AM
Yeah, I saw that yesterday. I changed it back.

Jackel
06-21-2010, 12:29 PM
Any chance we can get Civstats back running on this? It is a lot easier to track when the round resets through a webpage than booting up Civ 4.

MagGnome
06-21-2010, 02:56 PM
Agreed. Please start up the stats page again! :)

Loki
06-23-2010, 01:24 AM
Should be back up.

Jackel
06-28-2010, 07:26 PM
Odd. on 2 separate computers I tried connecting and on both Civ 4 crashed on me, exact same error. One of the computers is a fresh install, the other is the one I've been playing Civ 4 all along.

edit: tried a single player game and it worked fine. so Its something to do with the multiplayer map that is crashing it.

Loki
06-29-2010, 03:10 PM
Jackel,

Have you had any luck getting it working?

Jackel
06-29-2010, 09:41 PM
Yes Sir. At least on my regular PC...I'm now back in AK so I'll find out in a while if the laptop works too.

Jackel
07-02-2010, 01:45 AM
So I've suddenly had some thing come up where I won't have any internet access for probably around 2 weeks. So I'm going to have to bow out temporarily. If its possible to set it as AI, I'd love to keep playing when I get back....but if you can find someone else to join then go ahead and do that instead. thanks!

Loki
07-02-2010, 11:35 AM
Not a problem.

Loki
07-02-2010, 08:44 PM
So, since Whunpo left the game, his civ has been ran by the Americans. Since I felt that having an AI being a nuisance for those of us that are playing. I've taken over his Civ and destroyed his units and have not been able to destroy his cities due to the lack of that function. I figure that he will be a constant gardener of his land but nothing more. No more units should exist for him and there shouldn't be anymore interaction. To verify, the password for the civ has been blanked out. He has a significant amount of research so maybe we can share that research out to those who don't have it yet. Thoughts?

Jackel
07-02-2010, 09:35 PM
Instead of sharing the research..just kill it off is my thoughts. To avoid giving an unfair advantage in case someone is already researching one of his existing technologies.

MagGnome
07-02-2010, 09:57 PM
Yeah, don't share his research or anything. Just leave him there.

He did try to get me to declare war on someone. :D

Kielaran
07-03-2010, 02:09 AM
He did try to get me to declare war on someone. :D

Same here. He was pretty pissy when I refused too.

Lint of Death
07-03-2010, 01:32 PM
I should give fair warning that I uninstalled this game to make room for Borderlands, and so I am no longer playing :/

Kielaran
07-04-2010, 06:16 PM
Is anyone else having trouble connecting? It was odd since when I went to sign in, the Direct IP address wasn't in there like it usually is. Then once I added it back in and tried to log on to the server, it give me a connecting to host screen until it says it timed out.

MagGnome
07-04-2010, 10:13 PM
Yeah, I haven't been able to connect either. I missed a turn. :(

Loki
07-04-2010, 10:27 PM
There was a power outage this morning. The server should be up. Please send all irate emails to Idaho Power.

Kielaran
07-05-2010, 02:09 AM
Good deal. Got my next move it. :)

Kielaran
07-08-2010, 10:25 PM
So I will be out for a few days. Is there any way that I can switch it to ai for a few days without it screwing with what I am doing?

Loki
08-10-2010, 11:28 PM
Those damn Dutch and their never ending ability to outscore me.

MagGnome
08-11-2010, 11:13 AM
I don't know what you are talking about. :D

Also, why did my score decrease two points? :mad:

Loki
08-11-2010, 11:19 AM
I don't know what you are talking about. :D

Also, why did my score decrease two points? :mad:

I took two parcels of land

MagGnome
08-11-2010, 12:31 PM
I noticed, you bastard!

Loki
08-11-2010, 02:50 PM
Blame Michaelangelo. Its his fault that your uncultured Dutch denizens were swayed.

MagGnome
08-11-2010, 03:50 PM
You only took two parcels of land, not any of my people. :p

Loki
08-14-2010, 05:13 PM
So, I am selling my machine and won't have the ability to consistently host the server any more. Anyone want to take the mantle? I can go through a quick guide and the save files.

MagGnome
08-14-2010, 06:37 PM
When is the game going down?

Loki
08-14-2010, 06:57 PM
About an hour or so. I still have the game files.

MagGnome
08-14-2010, 08:41 PM
I'm going to log in and take one last turn then. :p

Edit - It looks like I was too late.

Honestly I have a feeling the game is going to die out. There were only three people taking their turns anyway - myself, Loki, and Bandango on occasion.

Loki
08-14-2010, 09:15 PM
Jackel was in it for a while too. But yea, especially with the release of Civilization 5, it was expected. We should get together for one last hoorah one of these weekends before Civ 5 is released and just do a binge of some Civ goodness.

MagGnome
08-14-2010, 09:33 PM
That sounds like fun. :)

Damnit, I wanted to win this game. :p

Jackel
08-14-2010, 11:55 PM
Yeah. I've been busy trying to find a place to live / pack up so I haven't found the time to play.

Bandango
08-17-2010, 06:37 AM
Oh man so sad :(

Think there's enough interest to get another game going?

Also, I think we should try to pick a weekend to do a live game.

Loki
08-17-2010, 10:07 AM
Band, I think we should wait until Civ 5 is released to start a long term game again.

MalReynolds
08-17-2010, 11:37 AM
sad i kinda wanted to play

Bandango
08-18-2010, 10:53 AM
Band, I think we should wait until Civ 5 is released to start a long term game again.

I look forward to it.

I was wondering, do you still have the save file for this game? Could I finish it single player, or does it not work like that?

MagGnome
08-18-2010, 10:55 AM
You could indeed finish it single player, AFAIK.

Kielaran
08-18-2010, 12:27 PM
I was diligent with taking my turns up until my business trip last week. Oh well. These games take so long in that format.

MagGnome
08-18-2010, 12:54 PM
Yes, they really do. It would be fun to try an all day game sometime, although I fear even that would take too long.

Panthera
08-18-2010, 01:00 PM
The mistake for my game was to do a 'normal' length game instead of a 'fast' game which has everything happening in fewer turns. At least everyone still in the game is more or less active at the moment.

I can guarantee Civ V won't have pitboss out for release, but I hope it comes very soon thereafter.

MagGnome
08-18-2010, 03:05 PM
Yeah, the other game is moving slowly, but it's easy to keep up with. Especially since I'm trapped on an island with a certain someone.

Panthera
08-18-2010, 11:20 PM
Soon we will break our watery bonds! The world shall tremble!

MagGnome
08-19-2010, 01:17 AM
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Loki
08-19-2010, 11:08 AM
Yea. Next game definitely needs to be set up on 'turbo' mode or whatever.