John Krasinski as Captain America? [Archive]

Ink Asylum

03-09-2010, 10:05 PM

That's what the rumor mill is saying. From io9: (http://io9.com/5489643/that-guy-from-the-office-is-probably-playing-captain-america-say-inside-sources)

John Krasinski has read for the part of Captain America four times, and is doing screen tests, an inside source at Marvel tells Fox News. The source adds: "He has screen tested 2 times so far. It's very likely that he will be the new Captain America. He is a favorite among the key decision makers and has been asked to come back for more this week." And these decision-makers are having Krasinski test opposite various actresses, so they can lock in the other key roles once the lead is cast. Adds the source, a comics fan who works at Marvel: "It's a surprise and we are bracing ourselves for 'that guy from 'The Office'' to land Captain America. They are not really looking at the other guys, so it's time to get ready to work with him."

I don't know what to think about this. The first reaction is surprise and disbelief. It's not just how Krasinski has been typecast, I just don't see him physically as a Captain America type. His face just isn't manly enough to be a genetically engineered super soldier.

If he's really impressed during his screen tests, though, maybe he could surprise us. He's struggled to break out of the Jim Halpert box in movies and hasn't succeeded so far. This could be his chance.

pomeroy

03-09-2010, 10:08 PM

I love all the cries of outrage from the fanboys (I'm not including you, Ink...you're pretty reasonable here) about this. Come on, guys. Lots of whining about Ledger as the Joker and he did just fine.

Shjinta

03-09-2010, 10:11 PM

I don't even know who this guy is, but I'm all for him going for it.

Jeffool

03-09-2010, 10:16 PM

This was actually mentioned in another thread a few days ago, but considering the other names that were being mentioned, I think Krasinski definitely looks the part more than the others. Here's hoping he can act it as well.

Generation ABXY

03-09-2010, 10:21 PM

I don't know what to think about this. The first reaction is surprise and disbelief. It's not just how Krasinski has been typecast, I just don't see him physically as a Captain America type. His face just isn't manly enough to be a genetically engineered super soldier.

That's more how I felt about it; he just doesn't seem to look the part to me (of course, I'm not a fan of The Office, so I can't comment much beyond that).

Still, I could be surprised...

Spectre-7

03-09-2010, 10:23 PM

These guys seem to disagree. (http://screencrave.com/2010-03-09/chris-evans-joins-captain-america-race-john-krasinski-out/)

Mike Kelehan

03-09-2010, 10:23 PM

Michael Keaton as Batman? What are they thinking?

Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man? It'll never work.

Heath Ledger as The Joker? Are you kidding me?

...I'm just saying.

Spectre-7

03-09-2010, 10:26 PM

Michael Keaton as Batman? What are they thinking?

Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man? It'll never work.

Heath Ledger as The Joker? Are you kidding me?

...I'm just saying.

To be fair, I still disagree with two of them.

Generation ABXY

03-09-2010, 10:28 PM

Wait, people didn't think Tobey Maguire would work as Spider-Man? He seemed perfect for the role...

Ink Asylum

03-09-2010, 10:29 PM

Yeah, if you're not sitting in on the screen tests or readings you can't say whether or not he'll be able to pull it off until we see some real footage.

Here's a photo that's John looking manly rather than silly:

http://www.givememyremote.com/remote/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/John-Krasinski-Elle-large.png

If I had to point to one thing that throws me off it's his nose. It's kind of big for what we normally imagine Captain America having.

Ink Asylum

03-09-2010, 10:31 PM

Anyway, I still believe Matt Damon would be my ideal choice.

Savok

03-09-2010, 10:31 PM

You can play the Joker different but equally effective ways, same with Bruce Wayne. Steve is... well he's fucking Captain America, the man defines inspiration (http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/428954.html?#cutid1).

Generation ABXY

03-09-2010, 10:32 PM

If I had to point to one thing that throws me off it's his nose. It's kind of big for what we normally imagine Captain America having.

Oddly enough, I agree with you. Iit seems such a silly thing, I know, but my first reaction was what it was.

Mike Kelehan

03-09-2010, 10:33 PM

Wait, people didn't think Tobey Maguire would work as Spider-Man? He seemed perfect for the role...

Many didn't, back then. And I agree, he seemed perfect. Still does.

In fact, I say they open the new Spider-Man with him. He meets the devil, who demands that he agree that the last three movies never happened... and then we cut to the new guy.

Jeffool

03-09-2010, 10:34 PM

Psykoboy2

03-09-2010, 10:35 PM

My vote goes to Bruce Willis.

Jeffool

03-09-2010, 10:37 PM

My vote goes to Bruce Willis.Maybe if this were Universe X...

Spectre-7

03-09-2010, 10:38 PM

My vote goes to Bruce Willis.

I'm still going with Jon Hamm.

LongStepMantis

03-09-2010, 10:44 PM

My only request is that Rainn Wilson play the Red Skull. He already has the look...can't you just picture Dwight in a Nazi get-up already? I'm hardly the first one to think of this.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2010/capkrasinski.jpg

Savok

03-09-2010, 10:45 PM

I think a lot of people forgot Peter Parker is a dopey looking nerd.

Ink Asylum

03-09-2010, 10:46 PM

While I agree with Ink that Matt Damon would be a good choice, looking at IMDB, it says that Krasinski's already announced to play Cap in the Avengers film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/). If they've got that much confidence in him already, why not have the same actor in the Cap film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/) (where he's only listed as "rumored?")

I don't think IMDB can be considered completely accurate this far out. It's updated by fans, not the people making the casting decisions. People rush to add known cast as soon as possible, sometimes before it's been properly confirmed.

muddi900

03-09-2010, 11:48 PM

Krasinski looked like the front runner the moment they announced the short list. The guy is a good enough actor, but he looks like...a character from Archie. I am not kidding, he looks like Jughead came to life. He looks like stuffed bear, not a Super soldier. I don't see how he'll pull it off. And in a movie by Joe Johnston.

Though I second Mantis' proposition, Rainn Wilson should totally play Red Skull.

muddi900

03-10-2010, 12:14 AM

CBR says he's out: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25155

Xerxes

03-10-2010, 12:26 AM

he looks like...a character from Archie.
Exactly. Talk about groan. I mean people nodded in agreement when RDJ became Tony. This guy just doesn't seem like the same shoe in.

Philonious

03-10-2010, 01:06 AM

I'm still going with Jon Hamm.

Agreed. Going TOO young seems kind of stupid since they want to do the Avengers thing... I can't see it working if the Cap is 'younger' than the others.

Savok

03-10-2010, 01:14 AM

Just did the math and Cap was around 28 when he was frozen.

Widgetcraft

03-10-2010, 01:53 AM

Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man? It'll never work.

...But that didn't work.

I think a lot of people forgot Peter Parker is a dopey looking nerd.

But he doesn't look like a nerd. He doesn't look like any representation I've seen of Parker either. Parker is also a fast-talking, wise-cracking hero, which is apparently not something that McGuire can pull off. He practically mumbles half of the time. And those puppy-dog eyes, and over-exaggerated facial expressions? Yeah, no thank you.

Savok

03-10-2010, 02:12 AM

I don't like him either but I can see the logic that came into play casting him, which John Krasinski would seem to defy utterly here.

And hey, still better then what Marvel churns out these days.

Deadend

03-10-2010, 04:59 AM

Nuggsy

03-10-2010, 05:43 AM

I'm not hip to this at all but a friend of mine made, what I felt to be, a good point by suggesting that Krasinski is a typical underdog sort and that's who Steve Rogers was before taking the super soldier serum.

Personally I'd like to see Garett Hedlund. I think that he'll have some pull after Tron Legacy.

roboninja

03-10-2010, 06:12 AM

Michael Keaton as Batman? What are they thinking?

Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man? It'll never work.

Heath Ledger as The Joker? Are you kidding me?

...I'm just saying.

But this is not doubting acting ability. It is doubting this guy has the body type to play a super solider.

I will admit that Keaton had the same problem, and that ridiculous "muscle suit" was needed. It was a bad choice, IMO; the movie suffered for it.

Philonious

03-10-2010, 06:26 AM

But he doesn't look like a nerd. He doesn't look like any representation I've seen of Parker either. Parker is also a fast-talking, wise-cracking hero, which is apparently not something that McGuire can't pull off.

The kid who plays Spiderman in the next movie was named after Wolverine and Deadpool (Logan Wade Lerman) which is awesome. Hopefully he does a good job... I'm neutral right now but he was fine in Gamer and seems better suited to the 'smart-mouth kid' that is Peter Parker.

Ink Asylum

03-10-2010, 06:31 AM

Eh, I was hoping they went with a CG-ish Cap, as getting someone to look slightly superhuman, and who could act? Really tough. But then again, that last Hulk movie was basically an excuse to test shoot how Captain America would work.

I definitely thought of Captain America while watching the fight scene in the Incredible Hulk between that drugged up soldier and Hulk on the college campus.

muddi900

03-10-2010, 08:07 AM

It has been confirmed by multiple sources now that he is out.

Widgetcraft

03-10-2010, 09:12 AM

The kid who plays Spiderman in the next movie was named after Wolverine and Deadpool (Logan Wade Lerman) which is awesome. Hopefully he does a good job... I'm neutral right now but he was fine in Gamer and seems better suited to the 'smart-mouth kid' that is Peter Parker.

Dude looks like Ultimate Peter Parker brought to life!

Savok

03-10-2010, 09:56 AM

Coincidently the only Peter Parker that doesn't suck... or not a coincidence.

muddi900

03-10-2010, 09:59 AM

Yeah, the only Spider-man comic that matters is Ultimate Spider-man.

Superman's Dead

03-10-2010, 10:53 AM

Goddamnit. Why did they have to cast Spider-Man before I moved out there and broke in to the screen tests?

Also, I think whoever plays Cap has to be tall. Not movie-magic applebox tall, either. I mean straight up no matter who you put him up next to on screen he looks big still tall.

And remember, Christopher Reeve kept getting taken out of the pile of headshots to play Superman because people thought he was too thin and just didn't look the part.

Savok

03-10-2010, 10:56 AM

In fairness a Kryptonian's strength is from the yellow sun, not muscle mass. Not that it stops artists from making him huge of course.

muddi900

03-10-2010, 11:02 AM

Its hard to believe. Reeves is Superman for most of us.

Xerxes

03-10-2010, 11:53 AM

I definitely thought of Captain America while watching the fight scene in the Incredible Hulk between that drugged up soldier and Hulk on the college campus.

That was the point. I mean I wonder if they are too focused on the Cap movie and can't see the forest for the trees. End game is the Avengers movie. Whoever has to play the role in both movies. Hell, most of these guys don't look like they'd fit with the other Avengers.

Reeves is Superman for most of us.
meh... I'm flexible.

TheFlyingOrc

03-10-2010, 12:28 PM

Its hard to believe. Reeves is Superman for most of us.

Not really. I like his portrayal, but I don't LOVE it.

Dorkandproudofit

03-10-2010, 12:28 PM

Wraith

03-10-2010, 12:47 PM

Also, I think whoever plays Cap has to be tall. Not movie-magic applebox tall, either. I mean straight up no matter who you put him up next to on screen he looks big still tall. Well... as actors go, Krasinski (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1024677/bio) is relatively tall at 6'3".
Krasinsky is too young. Cap needs to be in his 30's at least; He should be a little older than most of the other heroes to symbolize his greater level of experience, and also so that other heroes can look up to him. And he is 30, though I guess you mean later 30s, early 40s.

Not advocating him for the role necessarily, just pointing this out.

Mike Kelehan

03-10-2010, 12:54 PM

Krasinsky is too young. Cap needs to be in his 30's at least; He should be a little older than most of the other heroes to symbolize his greater level of experience, and also so that other heroes can look up to him.

But he won't have that great level of experience at first. Remember this is a period piece set decades ago. He'll have that experience when he leads the Avengers in 2012.

Superman's Dead

03-10-2010, 12:59 PM

It really depends on how they want to do Cap. In the main Marvel Universe he was older than Bucky, and maybe early-mid 20s when he enlisted.

Ultimates had him enlisting a little earlier, and they may want to make the character younger to make him more approachable. You've got to feel his pain when he's turned down, and the super soldier thing has to be rough on him. That may be harder to do in an action flick with an actor at that middling age. I mean, I'd think it would be great if they could do it. I just don't know if the studio would spring for it.

Also, anyone playing Superman has to at least fill out the suit. In his autobiography Reeve talks about the four enormous meals he'd eat every day just to keep his weight up for shooting. Pretty cool, actually.

Ink Asylum

03-10-2010, 01:32 PM

They should cast someone in their mid-to-late-20s. There's no reason not to. Someone that age can easily pass for their thirties, and being younger will allow for them to remain at 30-ish looks for longer if the franchise takes off. Comic characters stay at the same age for decades so anyone you cast in a franchise has time to catch up and pass the canon age.

MalReynolds

03-10-2010, 01:38 PM

Chris evans name is in the the rumors now :O

muddi900

03-10-2010, 02:01 PM

Not really. I like his portrayal, but I don't LOVE it.

I am not talking about the portrayal or the movies themselves, which haven't aged all that well. I am talking the image I, and a lot of other people, have of Superman. When we think Superman, we think Christopher Reeves. The reason its hard to make Supes movie is because most people, including the ones casting them, have a hard time picturing anyone else.

Destro

03-10-2010, 02:33 PM

I am not talking about the portrayal or the movies themselves, which haven't aged all that well. I am talking the image I, and a lot of other people, have of Superman. When we think Superman, we think Christopher Reeves. The reason its hard to make Supes movie is because most people, including the ones casting them, have a hard time picturing anyone else.

Its true. The main thing Routh had going for him was not that he looked like Supes in the comics, but that he looked like Reeves a tad.

Superman's Dead

03-10-2010, 02:38 PM

Reeve. Sorry, just a nitpicky thing. Christopher Reeve, George Reeves.

I also hope they pick a Cap who can do at least some of his own stunts. The guy needs to be able to dominate.

MachEnergy

03-10-2010, 02:49 PM

Primus

03-10-2010, 02:51 PM

Epic fail if true.

Wraith

03-10-2010, 02:58 PM

If you missed it, you have to check out this video of Krasinski doing a marionette impersonation on Conan.

http://jezebel.com/5371226/jon-krasinski--conan-obrien-do-the-marionette

I think it's so damn hilarious. Now picture him in the Captain America outfit doing that....

:DNow I'm picturing something else.

"Coming this summer, Conan O'Brien is... Captain America."

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr62/conando/moleculo3.gif

TrackZero

03-10-2010, 03:03 PM

Chris evans name is in the the rumors now :O

Most people will think of Chris in a humour role, but if you watch him in Sunshine, you totally see how he can nail the serious soldier mentality dead on. Hope he's chosen for Cap.

MalReynolds

03-10-2010, 06:40 PM

thats who im hoping accually

OUX

03-10-2010, 07:21 PM

Yeah, because he kicked ass as the human torch.

Xerxes

03-10-2010, 10:54 PM

Its true. The main thing Routh had going for him was not that he looked like Supes in the comics, but that he looked like Reeves a tad.

Yeah otherwise Ratner would of gotten Matthew Bomer like he wanted.

Xerxes

03-10-2010, 10:56 PM

Most people will think of Chris in a humour role, but if you watch him in Sunshine, you totally see how he can nail the serious soldier mentality dead on. Hope he's chosen for Cap.

Yes! He was excellent in Jumper 2... I mean Pusher... gah I meant Push.

Urizen

03-10-2010, 11:52 PM

Chris Evans would be awesome. He's a decent talent in the few roles he's got. And his comedic timing is fantastic.

He's gold in Not Another Teen Movie.

muddi900

03-11-2010, 03:47 AM

Yeah, because he kicked ass as the human torch.

I don't know if this is sarcasm, but he was quite good in the role.

Savok

03-11-2010, 04:52 AM

He looked nothing Johnny but did manage to capture a lot of the matchstick's character. Hell, villain fuckups aside for a moment (only a moment, after what they did to Doom...) they were pretty decent superhero team films.

The fights especially, as they actually used teamwork and strategy instead of just blindly showcasing CGI effects one at a time.

Iron Past

03-11-2010, 05:52 AM

I don't know if this is sarcasm, but he was quite good in the role.

Thank you, I was going to say the same. He seemed very natural in that role, and the more I think about it, the more I want him for Cap.

Though, like Ink, I'd be all over Matt Damon for the role.

Savok

03-11-2010, 07:42 AM

He's too small.

muddi900

03-11-2010, 09:16 AM

Christian Bale was too thin!

Xerxes

03-11-2010, 09:29 AM

I still would of thought like Joel Gretsch or Mark Valley.

muddi900

03-11-2010, 09:34 AM

I still would of thought like Joel Gretsch or Mark Valley.

Well they are looking for someone who can act. Probably. :p

Spectre-7

03-11-2010, 11:09 AM

I still would of thought like Joel Gretsch or Mark Valley.

I was just thinking of Mark Valley after watching Human Target last night. He's certainly got the look if nothing else. As for his acting ability, I'd call it largely untested; his career has been entirely television work, where no one ever seems to ask him for more than a snarky line and a smirk.

I'd like to see what a real director could do with him.

The producers of Cap seem really stuck on casting a young'un, though. Mark Valley is approaching fifty, so he's not even on their long list.

Xerxes

03-11-2010, 05:17 PM

The producers of Cap seem really stuck on casting a young'un, though. Mark Valley is approaching fifty, so he's not even on their long list.

Yeah... There will be lulz when he's leading the Avengers too.

muddi900

03-11-2010, 10:19 PM

Xerxes

03-11-2010, 10:33 PM

JJ Abrams isn't a real director now?

Didn't you see Star Trek?
http://blog.timc3.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/startrek-lensflare-spock-tsrimg.jpg

Spectre-7

03-11-2010, 11:06 PM

JJ Abrams isn't a real director now?

Perhaps you'd care to point me toward a project Abrams directed that had Mark Valley in it.

muddi900

03-12-2010, 12:04 AM

I thought he directed the Fringe pilot, I was wrong.

BTW, Hugo Weaving is Red Skull. (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/slashfilm/~3/wqjeyTcf2ew/)

Xerxes

03-12-2010, 12:32 AM

I like Weaving.

Savok

03-12-2010, 12:35 AM

Good choice on Skull... well if the voice doesn't get too silly.

Xerxes

03-12-2010, 12:39 AM

Christoph Waltz would of been a good choice as well.

Generation ABXY

03-12-2010, 11:17 PM

I imagine he's probably getting up there in years now, but I always thought Jurgen Prochnow would've made a good Red Skull.

OUX

03-13-2010, 12:05 AM

I was just thinking of Mark Valley after watching Human Target last night. He's certainly got the look if nothing else. As for his acting ability, I'd call it largely untested; his career has been entirely television work, where no one ever seems to ask him for more than a snarky line and a smirk.

I'd like to see what a real director could do with him.

The producers of Cap seem really stuck on casting a young'un, though. Mark Valley is approaching fifty, so he's not even on their long list.

I was thinking about him too. He seems like he has the look and build more than Evans.

That and I am sorry but what do you guys see in Evans? He has no range that I have ever seen and exists in movies as a token frat boy. Comedic timing? Hardly, not to mention that even if he did have it I don't see it being a huge asset to Captain America.

Superman's Dead

03-13-2010, 01:10 PM

Cap has to be very sincere and naive at first, which can definitely be comedic and at least relies on the same timing. You have to buy frail but sweet Steve Rogers before you can believe in Captain America.

muddi900

03-14-2010, 12:02 AM

Yeah, Steve Rogers was a skinny guy before the Super-Soldier serum.

Savok

03-14-2010, 01:30 AM

An artist to be exact. Problem is you can't really inject someone with a Super Soldier Serum to make them instantly large.

Xerxes

03-14-2010, 01:45 AM

An artist to be exact. Problem is you can't really inject someone with a Super Soldier Serum to make them instantly large.

I was thinking this. You can use some Benjamin Button effect to make a guy look scrawny for a few minutes though.

Ink Asylum

03-14-2010, 09:15 AM

Didn't they do something like that in Spider-Man? One day Peter Parker looks at his scrawny frame in the mirror for a few seconds, and the day after getting bit by the spider he looks in the mirror and he's super buff.

Superman's Dead

03-14-2010, 09:21 AM

Yeah, just have to film things far apart.

Look at Sam Worthington in Avatar, and how emaciated his legs are. Obviously not how he looked in Terminator.

Ink Asylum

03-14-2010, 09:27 AM

A shot or two with him shirtless like that, and the rest of the pre-Super Soldier Serum scenes can happen with clothes on and people won't notice.

The Continental

03-14-2010, 09:45 AM

I've got my Captain America cast...

http://i40.tinypic.com/vff2wk.jpg

muddi900

03-14-2010, 09:51 AM

He'll work better as Lex Luthor.

Superman's Dead

03-14-2010, 09:54 AM

Kevin Spacey was dreamy as Luthor. In my head they made a Luthor/Joker teamup movie before Ledger died, full of hilarity and great acting moments. You don't even need the heroes. In fact, it would be better that way.

Adam Blue

03-14-2010, 10:10 AM

That and I am sorry but what do you guys see in Evans? He has no range that I have ever seen and exists in movies as a token frat boy. Comedic timing? Hardly, not to mention that even if he did have it I don't see it being a huge asset to Captain America.

I've rarely seen him play token frat boys in movies. You should watch London. Not because he plays a fucked up druggie, but because it's a good movie. And Jason Statham has hair. I thought his comedic timing worked well in the F4 movies. (Though, wouldn't timing be more based on directing/editing when it comes to film?)

Superman's Dead

03-14-2010, 10:16 AM

It can be, with cuts, but in a continuous shot the timing is all on the actor. From seeing Not Another Teen Movie, it's something he definitely has.

muddi900

03-14-2010, 11:11 AM

I've rarely seen him play token frat boys in movies. You should watch London. Not because he plays a fucked up druggie, but because it's a good movie. And Jason Statham has hair. I thought his comedic timing worked well in the F4 movies. (Though, wouldn't timing be more based on directing/editing when it comes to film?)

Eh, no its not!

crazyD

03-14-2010, 11:35 AM

If I had to point to one thing that throws me off it's his nose. It's kind of big for what we normally imagine Captain America having.

That, and he is lacking the proper lantern like jaw I'd expect from a golden age hero.

I'm still going with Jon Hamm.

Now THAT is the perfect fit.

And people actually think Chris Evans did a good job as Human Torch? He was beyond annoying.

Adam Blue

03-14-2010, 12:14 PM

Eh, no its not!

Sorry, I forgot.

Superman's Dead

03-15-2010, 10:31 AM

And people actually think Chris Evans did a good job as Human Torch? He was beyond annoying.

I'm pretty sure that was the script.

muddi900

03-15-2010, 03:36 PM

Well he embodied Johnny Storm, and that requires a lot of charisma.

ShivaX

03-15-2010, 06:44 PM

Eh, no its not!

I kinda liked it, but I think it was more for Statham than anything.

crazyD

03-15-2010, 07:06 PM

Well he embodied Johnny Storm, and that requires a lot of charisma.

I dunno, maybe the character is just less grating in print. I've always kind of liked the character in the funny books, but just wanted to punch him whenever he was on the screen in the movies.

Savok

03-15-2010, 07:51 PM

Wanting to punch Johnny is a perfectly normal reaction, it's why we have Ben around. Watch that and you'll want to kill him (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpBDqPYVuO4), again, normal reaction.

Xerxes

03-15-2010, 08:32 PM

He'll work better as Lex Luthor.
Yes!
Kevin Spacey was dreamy as Luthor. In my head they made a Luthor/Joker teamup movie before Ledger died, full of hilarity and great acting moments. You don't even need the heroes. In fact, it would be better that way.

No! I hate schemester Lex. I kept feeling like he was going to try and sell me a car any minute.

Spectre-7

03-16-2010, 03:44 PM

Gah! Reports are they've approached Channing Tatum. That guy's got about as much personality as cold oatmeal. Please no....

LongStepMantis

03-16-2010, 05:24 PM

At this rate they should just go ahead and start wooing Dolph Lundgren. You know you want them to hurt you so good.

Xerxes

03-16-2010, 05:26 PM

Gah! Reports are they've approached Channing Tatum. That guy's got about as much personality as cold oatmeal. Please no....

I knew I wasn't the only one who saw that. Oddly enough, I've seen more exciting cold bowls of oatmeal. I'd rather watch Keanu. Although I actually love some Keanu. His bad acting really speaks to me. So stiff even when he's trying not to be.

Xerxes

03-16-2010, 05:28 PM

At this rate they should just go ahead and start wooing Dolph Lundgren. You know you want them to hurt you so good.

Gah... Might as well call Matt Salinger up.

LongStepMantis

03-16-2010, 05:31 PM

I knew I wasn't the only one who saw that. Oddly enough, I've seen more exciting cold bowls of oatmeal. I'd rather watch Keanu. Although I actually love some Keanu. His bad acting really speaks to me. So stiff even when he's trying not to be.

Keanu Reeves seems like he would be perfect to portray robots and cyborgs. I've said it before, but his wooden acting has a place, it just isn't in many of the movies he's been in. As much as others hated the movie, I really thought his emotionless delivery worked well in Constantine. You don't expect a man who's seen Hell and fights demons to act very "normal". My opinion obviously.

Xerxes

03-16-2010, 05:41 PM

Keanu Reeves seems like he would be perfect to portray robots and cyborgs. I've said it before, but his wooden acting has a place, it just isn't in many of the movies he's been in. As much as others hated the movie, I really thought his emotionless delivery worked well in Constantine. You don't expect a man who's seen Hell and fights demons to act very "normal". My opinion obviously.

Agreed. I liked him in The Day the Earth Stood Still. The movie was weak for other reasons. Constantine and even the sterile direction of the Matrix movies fit him.

I like movies like the Lake House for other reasons. Watching him trying to display emotions is really funny.

Savok

03-16-2010, 09:32 PM

Keanu Reeves seems like he would be perfect to portray robots and cyborgs. I've said it before, but his wooden acting has a place, it just isn't in many of the movies he's been in. As much as others hated the movie, I really thought his emotionless delivery worked well in Constantine. You don't expect a man who's seen Hell and fights demons to act very "normal". My opinion obviously.
Only if you haven't read any of the comics, where you quickly learn John's a typical cynical, bitter, British bastard (http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1655985.html?#cutid1).

muddi900

03-17-2010, 01:31 AM

People willing to accept Mike Valley should have no problem with Tatum.

EDIT: Constantine was based on Sting. STING! How do you go from one of the most charasmatic people(in the 80s) to KEANU?

Xerxes

03-17-2010, 01:43 AM

People willing to accept Mike Valley should have no problem with Tatum.

EDIT: Constantine was based Sting. STING! How do you go from one of the most charasmatic people(in the 80s) to KEANU?

Normally I don't say anything but shake my head at your posts but seriously? Tatum basically reads line to the point where you can barely tell if he is alive. I don't see how you get Valley being that bland.

Spectre-7

03-17-2010, 01:48 AM

People willing to accept Mike Valley should have no problem with Tatum.

Yeah... no. Mark Valley is capable of emoting and can be charming. Channing Tatum meanwhile shoots sidelong glances at sheets of corrugated cardboard, wondering to himself, "what that guy has that I don't."

muddi900

03-17-2010, 01:49 AM

I don't see how you get Valley being that bland.

By watching him on TV. The guy has the charisma of a doorknob.

Xerxes

03-17-2010, 01:55 AM

By watching him on TV. The guy has the charisma of a doorknob.

:confused: What show are you talking about? Maybe you have the wrong guy. The guy I'm talking about is the lead on this show called Human Target.

Spectre-7

03-17-2010, 02:00 AM

:confused: What show are you talking about? Maybe you have the wrong guy. The guy I'm talking about is the lead on this show called Human Target.

I'm betting his primary experience with Mark Valley is Fringe, where he portrayed a dead guy whose personality persisted in someone else's imagination. Ya know, a real high charisma role.

muddi900

03-17-2010, 03:59 AM

I'm betting his primary experience with Mark Valley is Fringe, where he portrayed a dead guy whose personality persisted in someone else's imagination. Ya know, a real high charisma role.

Well, that and Boston Legal. And Human Target. And That episode of 4400 where he seemed to bring down every scene he was in. Human Target had all the ingredients for me to like it. Except the lead actor has no charisma for me to actually care. It was like watching a really bad episode of Burn Notice. I don't know if it has gotten better since the pilot, so I can't say!

Spectre-7

03-17-2010, 12:55 PM

And That episode of 4400 where he seemed to bring down every scene he was in.

Must've been trying to steal Joel Gretsch's job.

Xerxes

03-17-2010, 01:25 PM

Must've been trying to steal Joel Gretsch's job.
Ah come on! sure Billy Campbell was the show but he wasn't that bad. Now his nephew and son. Blerg.

muddi900

03-17-2010, 02:36 PM

Joel Gretsch was quite tolerable on the 4400. The first 2 seasons. The first episode of the third turned me off!

Adam Blue

03-17-2010, 02:41 PM

:confused: What show are you talking about? Maybe you have the wrong guy. The guy I'm talking about is the lead on this show called Human Target.

Dude...I just found this show and love it. Mark Valley is awesome.

Spectre-7

03-17-2010, 02:53 PM

Ah come on! sure Billy Campbell was the show but he wasn't that bad. Now his nephew and son. Blerg.

Don't read too much into it... I really just meant it as a light-hearted jab. :)

Joel Gretsch was quite tolerable on the 4400. The first 2 seasons. The first episode of the third turned me off!

Yeah, I only watched through the first two seasons, and even that was dicey. I really liked the first, but I felt like it went downhill pretty quickly from there.

And in all honesty, I've never had any big issue with Joel Gretsch. He just seems like the convenient warm body they found to fill a suit.

Xerxes

03-17-2010, 04:05 PM

Don't read too much into it... I really just meant it as a light-hearted jab. :)

Yeah, I only watched through the first two seasons, and even that was dicey. I really liked the first, but I felt like it went downhill pretty quickly from there.

And in all honesty, I've never had any big issue with Joel Gretsch. He just seems like the convenient warm body they found to fill a suit.

I liked the whole series mainly when it was Billy Campbell centric. The nephew arc was lame. And now that I think about Joel, his character was annoying always yelling names of those other two characters; Pleading for something or another. But now that you call him a warm body for the role, I'm reminded of his character on V. Yup, it's not the characters, it is him.

Widgetcraft

03-17-2010, 04:55 PM

I thought Gretsch was great in Taken (the mini-series, not the Liem Neeson movie).

muddi900

03-18-2010, 01:03 AM

V, 4400 nd Taken are the same thing!

Spectre-7

03-18-2010, 01:27 AM

V, 4400 nd Taken are the same thing!

I'm with you on Taken and the 4400. In fact, I'm having trouble separating some key plot points from each of them, although the fact that it's been a few years since I've seen either certainly helps. V seems at least a little distinct, but I guess there have only been 4 episodes so far, so it still has a chance to fall into line. ;)

If I could go back to Human Target for a second, I was just thinking about the theme music composed by Bear McCreary of BSG fame.

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The composition is a little abbreviated from having been jammed into 30 seconds, but it just sings Captain America to me. I also really enjoyed his work on BSG, and I can only hope they pick up Bear for the Cap film.

muddi900

03-18-2010, 01:34 AM

His name is Bear?:eek:

One other reason I disliked Human Target is that it has good concept and does not follow it.

"I will protect you. I am gonna mix in with the crowd by being the most conspicuous dude ever at any large gathering of people. Ever!"

muddi900

03-19-2010, 10:53 PM

Destro

03-20-2010, 10:40 AM

9 pictures? that seems excessive.

Savok

03-20-2010, 10:42 AM

Yeah what the fuck will the last one be? Cap retires and starts shouting at young people and their terrible music?

Xerxes

03-20-2010, 10:57 AM

If it's that low they should include a percentage. That would make a great bonus. I wonder if they got Norton and RDJ making peanuts. I can see them getting away with that on the Thor guy. And Chris Evans can be Ant Man. :p

Destro

03-20-2010, 11:51 AM

Captain America:The First Avenger: Old Man Yells At Cloud!

Xerxes

03-20-2010, 12:12 PM

Would co-starring and cameos in other movies count as pictures in this movie deal? Who knows how many movies they'll try to stretch out of the Avengers movie if it's a big as some would imagine. I mean almost can't believe I'll be seeing superheros fighting Hulk, or what have you, in a live action (CGI heavy) movie until it happens.

Spectre-7

03-20-2010, 12:14 PM

This... I can live with this. Good work, Joe Johnston and crew.

Widgetcraft

03-21-2010, 01:25 AM

Chris Evans has been offered the role: http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/03/19/chris-evans-reportedly-offered-captain-america-role/

The problem Marvel has had with casting, according to different movie sites/blogs, is that they are low-balling their actors. They want a possible 9 picture deal with 300000 per movie, with no increase in pay per movie.

What the hell, man... Do they think that Iron Man's popularity had nothing to do with having a great actor in the lead role? I probably wouldn't have even seen it if I wasn't so impressed with Robert Downey Jr.'s performance in the trailers; and I'm a former comic book fan!

crazyD

03-21-2010, 01:54 AM

"The First Avenger" subtitle always bothered me. I mean, he didn't even join the team until issue 4!

muddi900

03-21-2010, 02:14 AM

"The First Avenger" subtitle always bothered me. I mean, he didn't even join the team until issue 4!

He wasn't even the first superhero in the Marvel U. Not even the first with superpowers. That was the Human Torch(not the Fantastic Four one)

Savok

03-21-2010, 03:23 AM

What the hell, man... Do they think that Iron Man's popularity had nothing to do with having a great actor in the lead role? I probably wouldn't have even seen it if I wasn't so impressed with Robert Downey Jr.'s performance in the trailers; and I'm a former comic book fan!
Especially when you consider Iron Man had been written so badly at the time, they've only just completed a literal reboot of the character. Downey made the whole thing, he made Iron Man wonderful again.

DoctorFinger

03-21-2010, 06:13 AM

The 9 picture deal includes cameos in other Marvel films, so that could really be 3 Cap films, 3 Avengers films and appearances in Thor, Ant-Man and Hulk 2.

Savok

03-21-2010, 06:18 AM

Even then, that's a whole lot of movies.

crazyD

03-21-2010, 10:48 AM

Especially when you consider Iron Man had been written so badly at the time, they've only just completed a literal reboot of the character. Downey made the whole thing, he made Iron Man wonderful again.

To be fair, though, the Extremis reboot was pretty rad.

muddi900

03-21-2010, 01:55 PM

The 9 picture deal includes cameos in other Marvel films, so that could really be 3 Cap films, 3 Avengers films and appearances in Thor, Ant-Man and Hulk 2.

The fee will be deducted if there was a cameo, probably. This isn't the first time they've low-balled someone. Remember Sam Jackson's "Maybe I won't be Nick Fury (muthafucka)", just 2 weeks before he signed a deal. Of course, Terrence Howard.