[PS3] Demon's Souls

[Gorvi]

One of the (previously) unannounced games that'll be showing up at TGS. It looks good so far.

http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/files/attach/images/699943/888/994/06.jpg

More shots here (http://videogamerx.gamedonga.co.kr/zbxe/994888).

[mister slim]

Looks interesting, though I've taken From Software games with a grain of salt recently. Looks almost like it could be a Otogi spiritual successor.

[Xerxes]

Wish you added this to the thread we already had. :p
Looking at some pics, having a sword let me atleast hope they are bringing some Otogi goodness back. Somethings I saw on the other site.

- Create your own hero with many customization options.
- You will have to battle against huge monsters.

[Virtual Machine]

More Otogi/Evergrace (shut up!)
Less King's Field/Eternal Ring.

[Xerxes]

More Otogi/Evergrace (shut up!)
Less King's Field/Eternal Ring.

Dude it sounds like a next gen Monster Hunter Freedom.

TAKE THAT MONSTER HUNTER 3 ON WII!

[Virtual Machine]

Dude it sounds like a next gen Monster Hunter Freedom.

TAKE THAT MONSTER HUNTER 3 ON WII!

SOLD!

I love me some Monster Hunter.

[Gorvi]

Wish you added this to the thread we already had. :p
Looking at some pics, having a sword let me atleast hope they are bringing some Otogi goodness back. Somethings I saw on the other site.

- Create your own hero with many customization options.
- You will have to battle against huge monsters.
Mine was up first. ;)

[violent]

Just noticed it. Looks hot as hell. Let's see how it plays.

[Xerxes]

Just noticed it. Looks hot as hell. Let's see how it plays.

I hope like Otogi. I just can't stop talking about that game. Think I'm going to have to finally go through both games back to back.

[violent]

I hope like Otogi. I just can't stop talking about that game. Think I'm going to have to finally go through both games back to back.

You know, this is a common belief but I have to be honest, I know nothing of this Otogi I keep hearing about.

[Vincent]

You know, this is a common belief but I have to be honest, I know nothing of this Otogi I keep hearing about.

I haven't played it myself but the art direction is phenomenal. This looks like a western style rpg by an Japanese company. It will be interesting how the game turns out.

[Xerxes]

You know, this is a common belief but I have to be honest, I know nothing of this Otogi I keep hearing about.

Violent you just made me put down food. I don't like to put down food. If you have a old Xbox, locate these games at once and do yourself the favor. If you don't have an old xbox, buy one. :p

Damn near everything, destructible. Demons. Flying. Swords. Magic orbs. Magic powers. Customization and leveling for the character.

[mister slim]

Otogi 1&2 are additional reasons I hope MS keeps working on backwards compatibility. Great games, though I'd recommend 2 over the first one. It just has better polish and design, plus the different characters are a lot of fun.

[violent]

Violent you just made me put down food. I don't like to put down food. If you have a old Xbox, locate these games at once and do yourself the favor. If you don't have an old xbox, buy one. :p

Damn near everything, destructible. Demons. Flying. Swords. Magic orbs. Magic powers. Customization and leveling for the character.

That was pretty funny Xerxes. I'll tell you what, I'll do what I have to do to play it on your recommendation.

[Xerxes]

That was pretty funny Xerxes. I'll tell you what, I'll do what I have to do to play it on your recommendation.

Mister Slim is right about 2 being better. But I think both games should be experienced. It's like saying God of War 2 is better so don't bother with God of War 1. <shrug>

[Ghost Rider]

Mister Slim is right about 2 being better. But I think both games should be experienced. It's like saying God of War 2 is better so don't bother with God of War 1. <shrug>

I tried to bother with God Of War 1, but for some reason the disk won't play on my perfectly good PS2. Unfortunate considering all the great things I heard about it. Maybe one day I'll see for myself.

[violent]

Both God of War games were great.

[Evil Avnovice]

Based on Siliconera's hands-on (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/12/19/demons-souls-due-for-an-english-release/) with a new demo at the Asia Game Show, they take notice of a small detail which could indicate that it may catch a US release:

The other feature, and this is something King’s Field fans might be interested in, is the build of Demon’s Souls at the Asia Game Show was entirely in English. This pretty much confirms Demon’s Souls is coming out in English at least in Hong Kong. Sony Computer Entertainment Asia is publishing Demon’s Souls this February, which is the same month Japan gets it. No word if Sony Computer Entertainment America is going to take care of Demon’s Souls here, but it seems likely that they or someone else will.

[Xerxes]

Slm1bS9XD-M

Tell me more. I'm more interested in the Ninja game From has coming out more. If this did come to the States however, and averages in the 7+ range, I'll most likely get. I like From Software a lot.

[menage]

Slm1bS9XD-M

Tell me more. I'm more interested in the Ninja game From has coming out more. If this did come to the States however, and averages in the 7+ range, I'll most likely get. I like From Software a lot.

That looked a lot better than I thought it would look, although I still think Japnese studios (exluding Capcom) really have a lot to do on the character animation front (not that it looks bad, but still a bit like PS2 animation).

[Evil Avnovice]

A new video. (Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/videoen13894_demon-s-souls-new-video.html))

[Xerxes]

It looks like what happens when a Japanese company makes a western RPG. O_o

[Evil Avnovice]

800th post. I should sound a little happier, huh? (Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/newsen29943_demon-s-soul-teasing-more-pictures.html))

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090128_182148_3_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images5_4_29943.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090128_182148_6_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images8_4_29943.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090128_182149_16_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images18_4_29943.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090128_182148_8_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images10_4_29943.html)

[Gorvi]

The game still looks good, but being From Software, I'll wait for impressions.

[Virtual Machine]

I can't freaking wait. The HD trailer has been streaming to my TV (from the PC) over and over right alongside the WKC footage. I'm gonna love this effing game! IF I EVER GET TO PLAY IT!

[Xerxes]

The game still looks good, but being From Software, I'll wait for impressions.

Lol... I'm all for it cause it IS from From Software.

[MalReynolds]

From software has its good games but also its bad ones... wait and see

[Variable Gear]

800th post. I should sound a little happier, huh? (Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/newsen29943_demon-s-soul-teasing-more-pictures.html))
Yes, you should.

[Virtual Machine]

A new video. (Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/videoen13894_demon-s-souls-new-video.html))


Not to sound dickish - but that one's been floating around a while now. Still, it looks amazing enough to be repeating, and i appreciate your efforts.

[Xerxes]

Not to sound dickish - but that one's been floating around a while now. Still, it looks amazing enough to be repeating, and i appreciate your efforts.

That post is over a month old. :confused:

[Gorvi]

I can't freaking wait. The HD trailer has been streaming to my TV (from the PC) over and over right alongside the WKC footage. I'm gonna love this effing game! IF I EVER GET TO PLAY IT!
This comes out in a couple of weeks in Japan, you could always import (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-demon%27s+souls-70-36pw.html). ;)

That's actually rather viable, since you'll be able to get it in English (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/12/19/demons-souls-due-for-an-english-release/).

EDIT: Damn, the more I think about that, that's not a bad idea. If the game is good, anyway. I'm going to have to keep my eye on the RPG/import sites for reviews.
Lol... I'm all for it cause it IS from From Software.
They always end up disappointing me. The Armored Core and King's Field games always look so good in concept but they fail so horribly in execution.

[Xerxes]

They always end up disappointing me. The Armored Core and King's Field games always look so good in concept but they fail so horribly in execution.
For Answer seems to be doing good. You might want to skip this one though if you don't like King's Field. Heard those are the footsteps this game is planning to follow.

[Virtual Machine]

That post is over a month old. :confused:

And i fail.

I thought it was today because i am stupid.

Carry on as if you were normal.

Nothing to see here ;)

[Virtual Machine]

This comes out in a couple of weeks in Japan, you could always import (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-demon%27s+souls-70-36pw.html). ;)

That's actually rather viable, since you'll be able to get it in English (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/12/19/demons-souls-due-for-an-english-release/).

EDIT: Damn, the more I think about that, that's not a bad idea. If the game is good, anyway. I'm going to have to keep my eye on the RPG/import sites for reviews.

They always end up disappointing me. The Armored Core and King's Field games always look so good in concept but they fail so horribly in execution.

When i get confirmation that the Japanese release is entirely in English (i've seen only non-english menus thus far) , and the US/Can release is more than 6 months out - i just may bite the bullet.

The last time i imported a game was Dracula X on the Turbo Duo when it was a new-ish release...

I've often considered the old Xbox Conan game by TDK as well.

[Gorvi]

For Answer seems to be doing good. You might want to skip this one though if you don't like King's Field. Heard those are the footsteps this game is planning to follow.
From what I've read they fixed the controls, which have always been my biggest grip with From's games. I was able to struggle through a good portion of the PS2 KF game, I do like them despite their flaws. AC I couldn't, though.

[Xerxes]

From what I've read they fixed the controls, which have always been my biggest grip with From's games. I was able to struggle through a good portion of the PS2 KF game, I do like them despite their flaws. AC I couldn't, though.

You had control issues with Otogi? :)

[Gorvi]

You had control issues with Otogi? :)
I keep forgetting Otogi was From. You know, because it was awesome. ;)

[Xerxes]

I keep forgetting Otogi was From. You know, because it was awesome. ;)

I think maybe I think to highly of them based on Otogi. Chromehounds was great as well. I don't have any major issues with AC. I here For Answer is a treat. I bought it for $20 buck a while back. Should try it out soon.

[Virtual Machine]

For Answer is EXTREMELY good as far as mecha based action goes. I've always kinda followed the AC series, but there were about 147 versions on PS2 and i sort of fell behind until Nexus (where the steady evolution of the series all kind of came to fruition). AC4 and AC:FA were both fantastic efforts as far as blowing shit up in giant, fast-moving robots goes. Next to ZOE: The 2nd Runner i'd call it the pinnacle of the more anime-inspired mech games (the Mechwarrior crowd will also dig on Chrome Hounds).

With regards to From software's other efforts, i never played much King's Field, but i did play a little Eternal Ring (YESTERDAY!) and i used to play the crap out of Evergrace/Forbidden Kingdom. So yeah, i've definitely got a soft spot for From software, and i can't wait for Demon's Curse.

[Gorvi]

I wanted to like the AC games so much, their theme is right up my alley, but the controls, even when they "modernized" them, have never been comfortable for me. With King's Field, I could get used to it, becuase it's a slower game, but not with AC.

Virtual Machine, if you liked Eternal Ring/Evergrace/Forever Kingdom, you really should track down King's Field: The Ancient City on PS2. It's really pretty good.

[Virtual Machine]

Virtual Machine, if you liked Eternal Ring/Evergrace/Forever Kingdom, you really should track down King's Field: The Ancient City on PS2. It's really pretty good.

We've had a single lonely copy sitting in our other store for about 5 years now. I may bite that bullet yet.

[Evil Avnovice]

Some new images. (Gamekyo)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090130_155410_2_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images2_4_29975.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090130_155410_3_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images3_4_29975.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090130_155410_5_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images5_4_29975.html)

[Xerxes]

It really does look like a Western/Jrpg hybrid.

[Lekon]

Well, I'm hot for this game now. That looks awesome.

[Virtual Machine]

dammit! I NEED this game.

[Evil Avnovice]

A nine minute gameplay video. (Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/videofr14301_demon-s-soul-du-gameplay-dans-une-longue-video.html))

[Xerxes]

Evil, I love your video finding abilities.

Updated thoughts: It's slow as expected sort of. Boss fights look like they'll be fun. That huge guy probably isn't even a boss.

[Evil Avnovice]

Dammit Xerxes! Don't say anything nice about me. I have a reputation to uphold! :mad:

But y'know, thank you.

[Virtual Machine]

Dammit Xerxes! Don't say anything nice about me. I have a reputation to uphold! :mad:

But y'know, thank you.

Not to sound dickish or anything - but you're costing me money.

[Evil Avnovice]

Not to sound dickish or anything - but you're costing me money.

Not at all. It's a little more comforting when I catch some blame every now and then.

But I'm going to assume that I wasn't supposed to go ahead and do this? (Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/newsfr30001_demon-s-souls-nous-livre-de-nouveaux-visuels.html))

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090201_180139_7_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images7_4_30001.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090201_180138_4_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images4_4_30001.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090201_180139_6_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images6_4_30001.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090201_180139_9_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images9_4_30001.html)

http://www.gamekyo.com/Webmasters/Images/73771420090201_180139_10_big.jpg (http://www.gamekyo.com/images10_4_30001.html)

[Evil Avnovice]

A ten minute gameplay video. (Gamekyo (http://www.gamekyo.com/videofr14365_demon-s-souls-une-video-gameplay-qui-s-eternise.html))

[Lekon]

Update to the updates! The Japanese version apparntly hits sometime very soon (This week or next). However, Play-asia is reporting that the Asia region version will have Chinese and English language options. Since none of the PS3 games are region locked, if you want to play Demon's Soul later this month, well you are set to go.

Linky for Play Asia's Asia Region Demon's Souls (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-36pw.html)

[Xerxes]

I think i'll wait for them to english it up proper. If it's not coming over at all though, which happens. Seemed a bit linear but I liked the Atmosphere. Bit weird showing a tutorial level. You don't get to see the knight at full potential. I loved the boss fight. Huge bosses seem to be a selling point.

[Virtual Machine]

I think i'm gonna take the plunge - that last vid really impressed me with the combat - though it was signifigantly lacking in cute Japanese gamer-girl, unlike the last one - You slipping EVAVNovice?

[Lekon]

I think i'll wait for them to english it up proper. If it's not coming over at all though, which happens. Seemed a bit linear but I liked the Atmosphere. Bit weird showing a tutorial level. You don't get to see the knight at full potential. I loved the boss fight. Huge bosses seem to be a selling point.

Oddly enough, the Asia versions I've gotten in the past have been Copied exactly when the American versions came out (Language wise) I'm not exactly sure why they do it that way though (Release in Asia before US)

I do love the tutorial vid, but I'm with Xerxes, showing more of the game would be best. Still, the weapons look pretty fun (The fencing looked right up my alley).

Only thing I wonder: How customizable will your knight be? I saw on Play-Asia that you create your own knight to play, and the official site has notes about online play, so I'd hope we don't all look the same.

Extra edit: Some early reviews: Famitsu 9,7,7,6. (Almost the same White Knight Chronicles got)
Dengeki 95, 85, 85, 85 So, decent review scores so far. (WKC got the same scores, but has been tearing up the sales charts apparently.)
Review info taken from : Here (http://www.ps3center.net/news/2234/first-reviews-of-demons-souls-are-in/)

[Xerxes]

Oddly enough, the Asia versions I've gotten in the past have been Copied exactly when the American versions came out (Language wise) I'm not exactly sure why they do it that way though (Release in Asia before US)

Only thing I wonder: How customizable will your knight be? I saw on Play-Asia that you create your own knight to play, and the official site has notes about online play, so I'd hope we don't all look the same.
Asian versions are weird that way I guess.

I too wonder about the customization. The knight looks pretty tame and I can't imagine him remaining so. It's like this, if I where to show someone God of War, I'd show him kicking major ass with high powered chains, and maybe one of his other weapons. I wouldn't feel cheated if I had to work my way up to this badassness. Showing his tamer powers is just meh. I know it's more there. If anything the boss fights look sick.

[MalReynolds]

Looks like there some fable 2 mixed in there

[Evil Avnovice]

Update to the updates! The Japanese version apparntly hits sometime very soon (This week or next). However, Play-asia is reporting that the Asia region version will have Chinese and English language options. Since none of the PS3 games are region locked, if you want to play Demon's Soul later this month, well you are set to go.

Linky for Play Asia's Asia Region Demon's Souls (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-36pw.html)

I have it in my Play-Asia cart, but I'm waiting to see if the menus will be in full english by way of some import preview/reviews. If it's all good, I'll import it. The game reminds me of Elder Scrolls IV.

[Evil Avnovice]

I think i'm gonna take the plunge - that last vid really impressed me with the combat - though it was signifigantly lacking in cute Japanese gamer-girl, unlike the last one - You slipping EVAVNovice?

Nah. It just takes time to get the "sweet" pics. :p

[Gorvi]

That trailer has me interested. I absolutely love the atmosphere the game has, but the simple looking combat has me a bit worried. I'll have to wait for some impressions, but if the combat gets a bit more deep I'll definitely pick it up, import or otherwise.

[Virtual Machine]

That trailer has me interested. I absolutely love the atmosphere the game has, but the simple looking combat has me a bit worried. I'll have to wait for some impressions, but if the combat gets a bit more deep I'll definitely pick it up, import or otherwise.

Simple!? Gorvi! It has lock on! That puts it light years beyond Evergrace! ;)

Seriously though - it looks a tad slow, but i kinda like slow.

[Xerxes]

That trailer has me interested. I absolutely love the atmosphere the game has, but the simple looking combat has me a bit worried. I'll have to wait for some impressions, but if the combat gets a bit more deep I'll definitely pick it up, import or otherwise.

From the tutorial level, who fucking knows, right? From what's shown there, you learn by killing zombie knights, and then you take on a huge axe wielding boss. No variety. Again, not the best level to sell folks on, but the images paint a different story sort of.

[Gorvi]

Simple!? Gorvi! It has lock on! That puts it light years beyond Evergrace! ;)

Seriously though - it looks a tad slow, but i kinda like slow.
Very true! :)
From the tutorial level, who fucking knows, right? From what's shown there, you learn by killing zombie knights, and then you take on a huge axe wielding boss. No variety. Again, not the best level to sell folks on, but the images paint a different story sort of.
That was a training level? Well, there I go not finding out what I was really watching.

[Xerxes]

Very true! :)

That was a training level? Well, there I go not finding out what I was really watching.

I could be wrong. But he walked up to about 10 pink floor stones and he displayed a new action at every stone. My japanese sucks, but I pretty sure those were teaching him moves. :o

[Gorvi]

According to Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5147816/ps3-exclusive-demon-souls-is-selling-out) the game is selling out in Japan. Could be low shipments, but even still, that's not a bad thing that it's selling better than expected.

[Virtual Machine]

Any word out yet on whether all the menus/text is available in English? Or confirmation of the earlier rumors? My clicky finger is hovering over the "proceed to checkout" button.

[Evil Avnovice]

18 days left until the asian version releases....

[Yeti2005]

So this definitely isn't coming to the States? It looks pretty cool.

[Gorvi]

So this definitely isn't coming to the States? It looks pretty cool.
It just hasn't had anything announced yet. Since its already localized for the most part, I'd have a hard time seeing it not come over, but you never know.

[Xerxes]

It just hasn't had anything announced yet. Since its already localized for the most part, I'd have a hard time seeing it not come over, but you never know.

Same thing I'm thinking. I wonder is there any voice acting.

[Gorvi]

Same thing I'm thinking. I wonder is there any voice acting.
There is, and it's in English. The only write up I've been able to find was on the GameFAQs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=954345&topic=47999278) forum (a better source than you'd think for niche games).

[Xerxes]

Shit, I might just sign up for the Asian version. I already bought the Asian version of Siren.

[Lekon]

According to some of the gamefaqs forumgoers (Good place to go for niche games, strangely enough) The characters are pretty customizable in their look, and there are 10 starting character classes. All we've seen in the videos is the Knight, but there are also rogues, clerics, and Mage types to choose from, even an archer based fellow.

According to said forum folk who have the game, the starting class only influences starting stats/equipment, but you can level up however you like. The knight starts with crappy luck, so doesn't get good drops as often, but a few levels of upping luck and he's just fine.

Apparently some guy was doing a live stream of him playing the whole game, and it took around 35 hours to beat the main quest line (Lots of side quests/free form stuff is available.) At game ending, he had a 35% completion rating. That gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

[Xerxes]

According to some of the gamefaqs forumgoers (Good place to go for niche games, strangely enough) The characters are pretty customizable in their look, and there are 10 starting character classes. All we've seen in the videos is the Knight, but there are also rogues, clerics, and Mage types to choose from, even an archer based fellow.

According to said forum folk who have the game, the starting class only influences starting stats/equipment, but you can level up however you like. The knight starts with crappy luck, so doesn't get good drops as often, but a few levels of upping luck and he's just fine.

Apparently some guy was doing a live stream of him playing the whole game, and it took around 35 hours to beat the main quest line (Lots of side quests/free form stuff is available.) At game ending, he had a 35% completion rating. That gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Now we need them to get a US publisher, OR I'll order that Asia copy.

[Lekon]

I'll be ordering Asian. The co op seems interesting, it has both PVP and Co-Op options, and the classes do handle fairly differently. The Noble seems to be really popular, a mage that starts with an MP Regen ring, lets him do a lot of blasting.

Another video, to show off one of the faster classes, makes that knight look like he was walking in molasses. (Tip, the bottom right button on the video turns off the scrolling Japanese text comments.)
A lil video (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm6053793)

[Xerxes]

I'll be ordering Asian. The co op seems interesting, it has both PVP and Co-Op options, and the classes do handle fairly differently. The Noble seems to be really popular, a mage that starts with an MP Regen ring, lets him do a lot of blasting.

Another video, to show off one of the faster classes, makes that knight look like he was walking in molasses. (Tip, the bottom right button on the video turns off the scrolling Japanese text comments.)
A lil video (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/video/niconico/sm6053793)

I just want to make sure it's not english subbed. I can do that for anime but I don't like playing games like that.

[Virtual Machine]

Any confirmation on english menus yet?

[Xerxes]

Any confirmation on english menus yet?

See, I'm pretty sure the Asian version will have English menus and English text.

I would like to see some dual sword action. I like a shield as much as the next guy, but I'd rather block with another weapon.

Original Name
Release Date Feb 25, 2009
Language English, Chinese
Genre RPG
Version Asia
PAX-Code PAX0002527781
Catalog No. BCAS-20071

[Virtual Machine]

Confirmed - just found a few screengrabs of the fully English menus.

I think i'm gonna pull the trigger.

[Lekon]

Confirmed - just found a few screengrabs of the fully English menus.

I think i'm gonna pull the trigger.

Oh ooooh! Post em? I wanna seeeeeee!

[Xerxes]

Confirmed - just found a few screengrabs of the fully English menus.

I think i'm gonna pull the trigger.

Now confirm it's english.

[Virtual Machine]

Here ya go. (http://www.siliconera.com/2008/12/19/demons-souls-due-for-an-english-release/)

And screengrabs:
http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/demonss.jpg
http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/demons2.jpg

[Gorvi]

Awesome. Do we know anything about voice overs?

[Virtual Machine]

Awesome. Do we know anything about voice overs?

Guys on gamefaqs are saying English.
This is what info i've managed to gather thus far (some of it could be erroneous - the details are fuzzy at this point:

- The Japanese version - released on Feb. 5th contains all English voiceovers and subtitles, however menus and hud text are in Japanese.

- The Asian version - released Feb. 24th - is all English as well - with English voice acting and subtitles. The language for menus and on screen text is also selectable, with English fully implemented. However the Asian version supposedly has the games incredibly unique sounding online features stripped out (though this has not been confirmed).

With regards to the first release, general concensus thus far:

- the voice acting is apparently quite good - on par with From's other recent works (a lot of UK/Euro talent).

- The graphics are great, with varied looks for each of the classes available.

- The gameplay footage out there now mostly features the Knight, who's attack speed is a little slower than other classes, the Thief apparently attacks incredibly fast, and the magician is weaker physically, but does some solid ranged damage.

- With regards to the online, i grabbed this fro ma post on Gamefaqs:
Players in Phantom mode, those that have died and lost their body for the time being, use an item called the Blue Eye Stone to advertise to other players in the area that they want to play multiplayer(this appears as a special blue message on the ground to other players). Any Revived player, those that have gotten their body back, can choose to summon 2 Phantoms into their game(meaning 3 players will be traveling together). Should they defeat any of the game's bosses the 2 Phantoms get their bodies back for helping the living player. But, should the living player die, the Phantoms are booted out of his or her game.

There is a second type, for those inclined to do Player vs Player. You can meet a particular entity in the game and get a Black Eye Stone that lets you break into a living player's game and attack them. If you kill them you get your body back. If you lose, your accumulated soul is lost for good. So good wannabe demon's should expend their soul, and keep extra soul in the form of carried gems.

Apparently other players in your friend's list also appear in your game as blue-ish colored "phantoms" a-la Fable 2, and you can chat back and forth and whatnot. If you have your broadband adapter enabled, this game will automatically feature some of the online components. You'll be able to see other players running around as ghostly images, see their blood splatters where they died, and see messages they have left. Messages that you vote in favor of will heal that player when you do.

[Virtual Machine]

Cribbed this from Gamefaqs as well:

Name: Knight
Starting Equipment: Long Sword, Mail Breaker(a sort of short stabbing blade), Kite Shield, Fluted Armor
Basic Info: Good defense and offense, but low Luck stat means items won't drop as often, this is the slow clunky character that turns the lay person off of the game

Name: Crusader
Starting Equipment: Mace, Heater Shield, Chain Armor
Basic Info: Uses Miracle magic, has a high defensive power, good damage boost via strength, but won't be able to use certain weapons with any proficiency

Name: Thief
Starting Equipment: Dagger, Buckler, Shortbow, (I think they get the Black Leather set too, but I'm not positive)
Basic Info: High agility helps them parry attacks and move around an enemy for critical strikes, high lucks means plenty of items will drop(e.g. you might get 5 herbs from a basic enemy), can also learn magic spells easily, a fun class for proficient players

Name: Magician
Starting Equipment: Short Sword, Leather Shield, Catalyst of Wood
Basic Info: Main magic class, but lacks the passive MP regeneration item of the Noble class, starts with Veil of Water to reduce fire damage and what I'll call Gout of Flame(a stream of fire), this is among the tougher classes to start with

Name: Sanctuary Knight
Starting Equipment: Halberd, Heater Shield, Talisman of God
Basic Info: Strong in both offense and defense, and can use Miracle magic, but very low intellect(you won't be learning regular spells any time soon), and low luck as well

Name: Soldier
Starting Equipment: Broadsword, Short Spear, Iron Shield, Plate Armor
Basic Info: The basic balanced class, balanced stats with highs in physical stats at expense of intellect, those who want an easier time at the game might consider this class

Name: Wanderer
Starting Equipment: Falchion(wide arc attacks for a blade), Dagger, Wooden Shield, Leather Armor
Basic Info: A hybrid of the Thief class, very high Agility provides a better offense, but you don't have ready access to magic

Name: Barbarian
Starting Equipment: [2] Clubs(wooden), Wooden Shield, naked save for sandals and 'short shorts'
Basic Info: Highest HP and bonus to offense, good stamina too, but zero armor means you take damage even when defending

Name: Noble
Starting Equipment: Catalyst of Silver, Rapier, Buckler, Incense Ring(enables passive MP regeneration)
Basic Info: Imagine a Thief hybrid, but with low luck and instead having the ability to bomb the hell out of enemies with offensive magic(Soul Arrow by default), extremely easy class to play in large areas but you'll need proficiency to survive getting mobbed in tight spaces

Name: Hunter/Ranger
Starting Equipment: Longbow, Battle Axe(don't ask...), Leather Shield, Leather Armor
Basic Info: Small boosts to Luck and most stats make this a fairly balanced class overall, you can melee or use the bow with proficiency(bows can also be aimed first person, and have some zoom ability), consider this as an alternative class to the soldier if you enjoy ranged classes

Really impressed the Demon's Souls subforum over there - not the usual hive of scum and villainy you get on GFAQs.

At any rate i've gone ahead and pre-ordered the Asian version from NCS.

[MalReynolds]

SO pre-order the Japanese version it is

[Xerxes]

I wonder if you have the asian version can you do online stuff with folks who'll get the US version. Bah, PS# game. Normally do it for the single player stuff anyways.

[Lekon]

One note: That online stripped feature is not only not confirmed, its pretty flimsy. Enough people finally asked "WHY ARE YOU SAYING THIS?" and someone answered "because initial d's online was stripped out." So the rumors of this game not having Online are based off of.. some unrelated Asian game not having online.

Chances are, the Asian will have online, so I'm not too worried. Soon as I get my rebate from the gubnment I'll be ordering!

[MalReynolds]

SOOO where can i get an Japanese copy

[Gorvi]

SOOO where can i get an Japanese copy
Here (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-77-1-49-en-15-demon%27s+souls-70-368o.html). Though the Asian version (with all the English) would be better, which is here (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-demon%27s+souls-70-36pw.html) (and it's $5 cheaper).

[Lekon]

If you can read Japanese fluently, go for JP, if not, go for Asian. Also, the link Gorvi game, to Play Asia is the best possible link. I've never had a problem with Play Asia at all.

Other companies that sell it though: NCSX, and YesAsia, if you want to shop around.

[Virtual Machine]

It was cheapest through NCSX -so i went that route.

[Lekon]

Really? I'll have to go with NCSX too then. I've ordered from all three in the past, and none of them have given me any trouble. I've just had the best service/shipping times with Play-asia, so I tend to go with them.

[Virtual Machine]

Really? I'll have to go with NCSX too then. I've ordered from all three in the past, and none of them have given me any trouble. I've just had the best service/shipping times with Play-asia, so I tend to go with them.


Play-Asia was only different by a few cents - but shipping for me was almost $10 more expensive.

[Gorvi]

I'll be very curious to hear what you guys thing about this, and especially interested to hear if the co-op that's been mentioned (that I didn't even know about before) works with the Asian version.

[Virtual Machine]

I've been meaning to start up a blog with my own game-related ramblings (just another wave in a violent sea), mayhaps i'll kick it off with my Demon's Curse impressions (or an SF4 review, we'll see how motivated i am).

At any rate you can count on me chiming in when i get this in my claws.
It really does look like something i'm gonna love.

[Gorvi]

I've been meaning to start up a blog with my own game-related ramblings....
I've been meaning to do that too, daily, just to get the thoughts out of my head.

[Lekon]

Yeah, check that. NCSX did come out to about 10 bucks cheaper after shipping. Glad you mentioned it.

[Xerxes]

I don't know. For some reason I have to get some feed back. Besides, with my backlog I can wait. Funny thing is I'm a little more excited about this game than Ninja Blade. And I really want Ninja Blade.

[Lekon]

Update!

My copy of the Asian version just shipped. Review forthcoming, once the game is in my gleeful, shiny hands.

Other update: Asian version works online just fine. Plenty of the Gamefaq people have reported that US, UK, Asian, and JP accounts all work just fine online with the Asian version.

[x Returner x]

picking it up Friday. WOOT

[Xerxes]

Update!

My copy of the Asian version just shipped. Review forthcoming, once the game is in my gleeful, shiny hands.

Other update: Asian version works online just fine. Plenty of the Gamefaq people have reported that US, UK, Asian, and JP accounts all work just fine online with the Asian version.

Yeah but once it hits the states, it won't get any respect and it'll be $30 in no time.

[Lekon]

Yeah but once it hits the states, it won't get any respect and it'll be $30 in no time.

IF it hits the state. Big IF. There's been no word of it coming over at all, sadly.

[Xerxes]

IF it hits the state. Big IF. There's been no word of it coming over at all, sadly.

Play asia sell then. :)

[Gorvi]

Awesome to hear. :) My main concern with the game is just how it controls since that's been a problem for me with From Software's games.

[DarkDay]

Something about this game when I see makes me more stoked then some of the big name franchises, not sure if its the art, the scope it shows, but I want to see much more of it.

[Gorvi]

It looks very..... dark. I can't think of a better way to put it, but I like that.

[Xerxes]

If Lekon says it's good, I'll probably order. I like From Software and apparently it's been selling like hot cakes in japan. I'm actually trying not to buy Kenzan! I doubt it'll ever come. Might be a good way to help my japanese studies. Straight up import immersion. :)

[DarkDay]

Had to pick up another vid camera today as I broke a buds, while I was there I grabbed a ps3 and had it under my arm, impulse and all. I put it back but dam if it didn't feel good under the pit. So close. I want this game and now I think I might take a trip back to best buy tomorrow...

[Gorvi]

Had to pick up another vid camera today as I broke a buds, while I was there I grabbed a ps3 and had it under my arm, impulse and all. I put it back but dam if it didn't feel good under the pit. So close. I want this game and now I think I might take a trip back to best buy tomorrow...
It's the right thing to do. ;)

[DarkDay]

It's the right thing to do. ;)

I know I know, its killing me, logic keeps getting in the way though and I keep putting it back. I can't get the time to play the games I do have let alone buy another system yet its so dam shinny and powerful. Fuck I want it. I want flower, I missed uncharted the list goes on. Just trying so hard to trick my brain and justify it somehow. Hoping the more I post the more people will just say stfu and buy one already.

[mister slim]

Shut the fuck up and buy one already.

Though to be honest I expect a price cut in the next three months.

[Xerxes]

Yeah I would, probably wait until E3 at this point. I mean I have a 60 GB, but if I didn't, and was anxious, I'd wait. Plus Demon's Souls is sold out on play asia.

[Lekon]

Yeah I would, probably wait until E3 at this point. I mean I have a 60 GB, but if I didn't, and was anxious, I'd wait. Plus Demon's Souls is sold out on play asia.

NCSX reports that they've just gotten their second shipment (The one mine shipped from) and their third shipment is next week, with that they hope to begin selling them without pre orders again.

Odd it was so hard to find. Hope it's worth it. :D

[Virtual Machine]

Mine shipped out Yesterday as well. Priority shipping and all that.

Soon!

[Lekon]

Mine shipped out Yesterday as well. Priority shipping and all that.

Soon!

Curse you VM! Mine won't get here until after the weekend.

Side note: Is it just me or is UPS Quantum a horrible thing? I am hitting refresh on it like a moneky with a big red "nuke!" button.

::sadpanda::

[DarkDay]

3 months you guys say? Still I wonder what the price drop will be, and if it will be big enough to warrant the wait.

[Virtual Machine]

Curse you VM! Mine won't get here until after the weekend.

Side note: Is it just me or is UPS Quantum a horrible thing? I am hitting refresh on it like a moneky with a big red "nuke!" button.

::sadpanda::

I didn't get mine for the weekend. Sadly. Hopefully by Friday of this week.

They said 5-6 days and it shipped last Wednesday.

[Lekon]

Got it finally! Got through both the Tutorial and the first level (1-1) I restarted about 4 or 5 times, because I couldn't pick which class I wanted to be first time through. Finally ended up choosing the Royal, a Mage/Theif. Fast, light armor, a rapier and buckler as well as a ring to regenerate his magic.

Early impressions: The magic is slightly overpowered seeming, several enemies went down easy to magic, but were hard to melee. However this stopped on a few special enemies who actually thought to block the magic spells.

Melee is damn fun. The various starting weapons handle differently, and all of them have two methods. hitting Triangle makes your character sling his shield and weild the weapon 2 handed. Everything from daggers to halberds switch styles and moves a bit. Two handed usually does more damage, and swings a bit faster. The controls are remarkably responsive, weapon switching is a snap, and the lockon feature makes it even easier to keep your camera where you need it. (though so far, I've yet to have any trouble with the camera, a real rarity in 3rd person games)


Shields are... almost necessary. You can dual wield, but you had better be damn good on the counter button, or you are getting a face full of demon part. Some of the weapons allow you to block if they are in the off hand, a few only allow parries. I thought it would be cool to use a Rapier and a Mail Breaker (Long Dagger, like a Main Gauche) Turns out you can't block that way, only do a specialized parry.. one with really precise timing. Miss it by a second, and you are bleeding everywhere.

Lastly: Online is odd. You can see other players as ghosts, and see what they are doing. You also can see notes other people have left, and leave notes anywhere in the world. Only one of your notes is active at any time, and after awhile it poofs. However, each person who goes by can give it a rating, if it's a helpful note, which gives you extra life/defense for being helpful. this makes it so that the levels have notes that actually help, example: In the first level I found notes saying "Hey, Item here!" or "Beware of ambush inside" or "Look out overhead" or the most handy one I found was "Enemy inside-Weak to fire". You don't have to read these notes, but they turn out to be really helpful.

I haven't yet been able to play Co Op, or PVP yet. From what I understand, its a way to get your body back after death. More impressions/review stuff will come as I get deeper into the game.

[Lekon]

Some more impressions.

I thought level 1-1 was big. I was wrong. Its massive. Turns out the level has a number of sub levels, depending on if the world is good or evil. There are apparntly mystic arcane ways to change the evil/good tendancies of the world, and of your own player.

I was able to sneak into a dark, and a light area, and both of them were obviously meant for extremely high level characters, one had dragons that were trying to sleep (And had no trouble firing me off a cliff.) And another had several Black Phantoms.

[Gorvi]

So the combat feels good? How "big" does the game feel? Obviously it's not going to be Oblivion in size, but does it feel like there's a lot to it? Are there any real outdoor areas or is it mostly going through a dungeon? I'll think of more questions later, I'm sure. :)

[Virtual Machine]

I want this NOW! Tracking info shows mine at Canadian customs. I'll probably see it by the end of the week.

There's a CRAZY HUGE thread devoted to Demon's Souls over at NeoGAF that's well worth the look see.

[MalReynolds]

steve i so will be watching you play it ... then ordering my copy -.-

[Xerxes]

I don't think Lekon shared this with the class.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/classes

[Lekon]

So the combat feels good? How "big" does the game feel? Obviously it's not going to be Oblivion in size, but does it feel like there's a lot to it? Are there any real outdoor areas or is it mostly going through a dungeon? I'll think of more questions later, I'm sure. :)

First, Xerx put up the Wikidot link that is really damn handy. Use that site Variable Gear, it gives a nice listing of the basics of the game, really helps you get the hang of it.


Now: Gorvi, this game is fucking massive. It took me an hour to get through stage 1-1, since there are so many side areas, (Depending if the world is Dark or light, different areas and shortcuts show up.) There are side sections that You normally won't even see, unless someone left a note that says "take a leap here" Places where if you look down just right, you can notice there's a ledge with a treasure down there. First level had five or six different ledge spots.

1-1 is about half outdoors, half in. 2-1 is all in a mine, reminds me a lot of the lord of the rings mines at times, some places are massive and open. 2-2 is as far as I've tried, and it is claustrophic as you go through Dragonworm tunnels.

You can go to any of the areas anytime you like, after you beat the 1st one. You have to start at -1, and work your way up, but once beaten, you can go back and redo the entire level if you like, except for the boss. This helps when you need to get some extra forging materials. I'm still finding things in 1-1, and 1-2, by going back now that I'm leveled up, to kill off some guys who gave me trouble.

Next up: MULTIPLAYER!
There are two items: The Blue Eye stone which you get right after the first real level, and the Dark Eye, which you get a bit later at a specific point. You can only join a multiplayer game if you're a ghost, and can only host if you're still alive. To join co op, you just use the stone, and it drops a Soul marker. Living people see these and can have you join their game. You all get a share of the loot, and if you all kill the boss, you all get to come back to life. I've seen parties of 3, I think you can have a 4 man group too, but I'm not sure.

I only found the Dark Eye stone last night, and admitaddly, this is a bit more comically fun. If you want to get your body back the harder way, you use the Dark Eye, it searches out living people doing this same stage, and you invade as a black phantom. Your job: Kill that dude! The downside: If he has buddies helping him, then you're outnumbered, and its hard enough killing someone solo.

There's no penalty for dieing as an invader that I can tell, aside from dropping whatever souls you had on you (Souls=money/exp) If you win, you get your body back. If you're invaded, it sends a big notice of someone coming in. You have the advantage as well, the person has to find you in the level. Hide and seek, with big freaking axes.


So far: I'm impressed. I understand how to get friends into multiplayer finally. You just need to look for your bud's soul mark (It gives you their name, How many multi-player missions they've done, and how the people they played with rated them)

Last thing for now: The game is just full of secrets. That PVP and Co Op have extra purposes. Apparently by doing it, your soul gets lighter or darker, and some items only work for dark, and some areas only open for light, regardless of the world's tendencies. I get the feeling this game's "Strategy guide" will be a compendium.

[Lekon]

For an example of "Size"

Here's the boss from stage 1-2, you'll need to watch in HD, or it will say "not available."

Youtube Linky! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awTag3BWc80)

I don't know why he's fighting like that though. He never used the lockon, which makes that fight a lot easier, circle strafing is extremely handy for getting out of that giant shield smashy move.

[Xerxes]

awTag3BWc80

[x Returner x]

Got it finally!

Damn you man I was suposed to get mine Friday but it looks like I won't get till this Friday if I'm lucky.

[x Returner x]

Got a question for those who have it. After watching that vid did the guy just suck or are the controls iffy? He attacked in the wrong direction a lot.

[Xerxes]

Got a question for those who have it. After watching that vid did the guy just suck or are the controls iffy? He attacked in the wrong direction a lot.

Lekon says there is a lock on button and that kind of just played it freely.

[Lekon]

Got a question for those who have it. After watching that vid did the guy just suck or are the controls iffy? He attacked in the wrong direction a lot.

The guy sucked. He used a lot of herbs for that fight, and could have dodged most of those hits if he'd locked on and just circled more.

He's playing as a soldier, which I highly recommend. It starts with good armor that's not too heavy, and a good mix of items. On the other hand, you see what happens when you roll in armor in that video, he just sorta hits the ground and goes thunk, then gets up. In heavy armor (Fluted like the kngiht) you barely get up with any speed.

If you're playing a thief or hunter, you're rolling all day like its monster hunter. You can't take a hit, but still.. its fun! The classes don't lock you into anything, they are just your starting stats/items, but as we all know, those early levels can suck without a good start.

[x Returner x]

Sounds cool I always like playing as a rogue/thief but I might go with soldier I heard this game can be pretty hard.

[Lekon]

Sounds cool I always like playing as a rogue/thief but I might go with soldier I heard this game can be pretty hard.

I'd just say expect to play the tutorial/1-1 a few times to get the hang of it. You'll find the class that grabs you soon enough. Theif was my first choice, and he's actually good, just you really need to stay on your toes.

Bonus: You have lots of stamina and run faaaast by not wearing that heavy metal armor. Plus: daggers are great in confined areas, no bouncing off walls.

From what I've read/experienced, The Soldier, Royal, and Temple knight are the easiest starters, while the Barbarian and Wanderer, and possibly the mage, have the worst starters. The Royal starts with a magic regen ring that is #!*(@ amazing.

[x Returner x]

Cool thansk for the info. I better get this Friday I want to play so bad now.

[Gorvi]

That looks much better than I had expected. I really hope this gets localized, but if not, I can see picking up an import in a few months.

[Lekon]

The Asian is 95% flawless english. Theres a few times where the translation is off slightly, but its fairly obvious what they meant.

Only thing that is confusing is finding soldier's/hero's souls. the item says "turns the user into a soul" Meaning in this case, use it, and you get souls.

Other neat things: There is, hidden in the nexus, a pantehon that houses the best players in the game. As long as you are online, you can go into this place, and the top soul earners, the top blue phantom savers (People who host co op games) and the top black phantom killers (PVP) are shown, and if you hit X, you get to see a full color rotation of them in their armor/weapons. Lets you see some of the really high level stuff and realize how much you suck.

[MalReynolds]

Steve has it now sooo PLAY it soon and then probably be ordering mine

[Virtual Machine]

My copy showed up this morning and i spent about 2 hours with it. Some random observations:

- Started with a Temple Knight, and actually found the bardiche or Halberd that he starts with to be pretty cool. I switched over to a Bastard Sword as soon as i picked one up.

- The voice acting is awesome.

- The combat mechanics are awesome, i love how weapons are handled, split between left and right hands, and i also love how you can choose to wield most weapons 1 or 2 handed for a little extra damage.

- This game is effing hard. Even early bad guys (zombies I can take down in one hit) can do considerable damage if you ain't careful.

- The graphics look infinitely better in person than any of the videos i've seen on youtube, though the complete lack of shadows is noticeable.

I've been plugging away at 1-1, keep getting annihilated by a knight with glowing red eyes who moves like a bat out of hell and 1 hits me into oblivion.

It's really a game for stat trackers, dungeon crawlers and character builders. It feels like it's going to be massive in scale. The perfect game for people who lost themselves to Oblivion or older games in the Elder Scrolls series. Or people who break out the books and still play pen n paper every week. It's like an old school, hardcore RPG experience. Like what RPG's were on the PC back in the early 90's.

I'm in freaking LOVE!

[Lekon]

My copy showed up this morning and i spent about 2 hours with it. Some random observations:

- The combat mechanics are awesome, i love how weapons are handled, split between left and right hands, and i also love how you can choose to wield most weapons 1 or 2 handed for a little extra damage.

- This game is effing hard. Even early bad guys (zombies I can take down in one hit) can do considerable damage if you ain't careful.

I've been plugging away at 1-1, keep getting annihilated by a knight with glowing red eyes who moves like a bat out of hell and 1 hits me into oblivion.

I'm in freaking LOVE!

The game is beautiful, true, and the voice acting is pretty damn nice, though everyone seems almost.. too Irish.

One quick tip... that guy with red eyes is supposed to kill you. You aren't meant to go that way. Take a different route. He's part of a side mission/area you can go to after you've leveled up a bit.

One nice thing about the stats, Any time you raise a stat, your phyiscal defense goes up. That's just handy dammit. There's some fun two handers as you go, and I do like that with the really heavy weapons, even if you are strong enough to use them one handed, its not always a good idea. Just hard to get leverage for a good swing with one arm.

Did you get the crossbow in that first level yet, or the Cling Ring? The Cling Ring is probably the most useful item in the game, and you get it a few minutes into 1-1. Keep that lil fucker on anytime you're dead!

Also: At the point I am at, I'm trying to kill the Dragon God. Its as easy as it sounds. *@#!(
I'd offer to help with multiplayer and whatnot, but you haven't actually started the game yet. Its not until you finish that first huge stage that the game breaks open and lets you go anywhere, meet up with others, do PVP. stage 1-1 is the "slightly" safe zone.

[Virtual Machine]

The game is beautiful, true, and the voice acting is pretty damn nice, though everyone seems almost.. too Irish.

One quick tip... that guy with red eyes is supposed to kill you. You aren't meant to go that way. Take a different route. He's part of a side mission/area you can go to after you've leveled up a bit.

One nice thing about the stats, Any time you raise a stat, your phyiscal defense goes up. That's just handy dammit. There's some fun two handers as you go, and I do like that with the really heavy weapons, even if you are strong enough to use them one handed, its not always a good idea. Just hard to get leverage for a good swing with one arm.

Did you get the crossbow in that first level yet, or the Cling Ring? The Cling Ring is probably the most useful item in the game, and you get it a few minutes into 1-1. Keep that lil fucker on anytime you're dead!

Also: At the point I am at, I'm trying to kill the Dragon God. Its as easy as it sounds. *@#!(
I'd offer to help with multiplayer and whatnot, but you haven't actually started the game yet. Its not until you finish that first huge stage that the game breaks open and lets you go anywhere, meet up with others, do PVP. stage 1-1 is the "slightly" safe zone.

I did snag the cling ring and opened the little portcullis that pops you out back near the start of 1-1. I'm not really sure what other paths i can take outside of the red-eyed bastard king of the arseholes. Gonna have to wander around some more.

I may end up playing a few more classes as well, see what i think of em. Temple Knight definitely has the coolest "look" of the bunch. My goal tonight is to be done 1-1 and into the game "proper".

EDIT: I also think i've pretty much spent the entire game "dead" at this point.

[Lekon]

I did snag the cling ring and opened the little portcullis that pops you out back near the start of 1-1. I'm not really sure what other paths i can take outside of the red-eyed bastard king of the arseholes. Gonna have to wander around some more.

I may end up playing a few more classes as well, see what i think of em. Temple Knight definitely has the coolest "look" of the bunch. My goal tonight is to be done 1-1 and into the game "proper".

EDIT: I also think i've pretty much spent the entire game "dead" at this point.

There should be three paths up top where the catapults are, one leads to a tomb and a red eyed guy. the other way leads to a foggy area you can go through for the rest of the level. You will be dead until you beat 1-1, then you'll get revived, and get the keys to the game (ways to revive yourself/do co op)

[Xydarc]

Is this out in the US? Or are you guys playing the import?

[Chris_D]

Sounds like they're playing the asian version which has English language support.

[Stoke]

Is this out in the US? Or are you guys playing the import?

What Chris said. There is no word of a release in the US.

Reading through the thread and now hearing the discussion is really making me want the game pretty bad. If only there was some way to use my Best Buy certificates or Goozex points to get it. :(

[Chris_D]

Btw, Hiroyuki really liked the game, more than White Knight Chronicles :).

Real Gamers in Japan - Part 18 (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/blog.php?b=727)

[Lekon]

Sounds like they're playing the asian version which has English language support.

^^ This. There are 3 versions, Korean, Japanese, and English. All 3 have English voices. Asian version has Chinese or English text, depending of what your PS3's default language is.

Best bet for ordering is either NCSX or Play-Asia at the moment, but both are sold out, and waiting on the next shipments.

I don't know who Hiroyuki is, but he has good taste!

[danhoo]

I hate you guys that have this game and are posting great descriptions. You are seriously making me consider doing yet another Play-Asia purchase.....

[Virtual Machine]

You really really really should

[Lekon]

Yes, you should. Join the joy.

Don't watch the new vids on Gametrailers though. The guy playing through has.. well, no idea what he's doing. He only spams one attack, doesn't even try to parry or use the lockon, and gets his face handed to him.

The new gametrailer ones do show how pretty it is in HD, but other than that, they don't show off all the neat aspects of the game at all.

Did you ever beat level 1-1, VM?

[Xerxes]

^^ This. There are 3 versions, Korean, Japanese, and English. All 3 have English voices. Asian version has Chinese or English text, depending of what your PS3's default language is.

Best bet for ordering is either NCSX or Play-Asia at the moment, but both are sold out, and waiting on the next shipments.

I don't know who Hiroyuki is, but he has good taste!

If that's the case I would order the Japnaese version if it wasn't $5 more. :D

[Lekon]

If that's the case I would order the Japnaese version if it wasn't $5 more. :D

Yes but the Japanese version has a lot of kanji text for items Xerxes :p. Why not play it in your native language?

[Virtual Machine]

Yes, you should. Join the joy.

Don't watch the new vids on Gametrailers though. The guy playing through has.. well, no idea what he's doing. He only spams one attack, doesn't even try to parry or use the lockon, and gets his face handed to him.

The new gametrailer ones do show how pretty it is in HD, but other than that, they don't show off all the neat aspects of the game at all.

Did you ever beat level 1-1, VM?

Yup, roaming around 1-2 now, it's a beast! Died again almost immediately. Go figure. The fight with Phalanx was fantastic too.

Using a Scimitar +2 now, which i'm really enjoying.

[Gorvi]

All this talk about dying makes me want to ask: what's the save system like? Is there a penalty for dying, do you respawn at certain points, how does that work?

[Lekon]

All this talk about dying makes me want to ask: what's the save system like? Is there a penalty for dying, do you respawn at certain points, how does that work?

You're going to be playing more of the game Dead, than Alive. When we're saying "dead" we mean "Phantom" state, as the game calls it. When you've died, you respawn at the begining of the level, without any of the Souls you had on you. All the enemies (except the boss, if you've killed it) respawn and you're in a Phantom state where your max hitpoints are reduced by half (or only 25% if you are wearing a Cling Ring, a damn useful item you find about 10 minutes into the first level).

Though you respawn at the start of the level, all of the levels I've found have secret paths that open up as you get farther in, so you don't have to fight through the entire level. Example: Level 1-1 has a few tower doors that you can open up once you get farther in the level, letting you take a quick shortcut up.

Only penatly really is lost time, if you can get back to where you died. You leave a glowing bloodstain, if you get back to it without dieing a second time, you get all your cash back.

Saving: Constantly autosaving. You'll never even notice a hiccup when it saves. Heck, I had to be told the little icon in the top right that sometimes pops up is a save icon. You can quit out at anytime through the menu, (instead of pausing) and when you come back to the game you'll be in exactly the same spot you quit.

[MalReynolds]

Played a bit of VM's copy and color me impressed ... Now only if it wasnt like 100 bucks :( ... needs a north American release now

[x Returner x]

Any body know of any import stores in Orange County the real OC in so cal? I can't wait any longer I need to get this game now. My order from HyperGameAction still has arrived.

[Virtual Machine]

I tried a bit of 4-1 today - and holy hell is it ever hard! GREAT spot for farming souls though.

Those "ninja flipping" skeletons drop mad souls.

Next to Oblivion, this is the most time i've sunk into a single game in a 24 hour span... ever.

It's a bit of a grind, and it's definitely one hell of a deep game, i liken the learning curve to something like Final Fantasy XI, only not quite as dramatic. I seriously think this just might be the best game i've played since Oblivion (which i clocked somewhere around 200 hours plus into overall). It's so very very different, which makes me hesitate in recommending it to everyone, and which makes me understand why Sony hasn't exactly been screaming about an American release (I'll bet money they tweak the difficulty a tad if it ever comes here). It could wind up being an Ubisoft release considering they carry From software stuff over here these days (though form what i understand this was a contract job built entirely for Sony Japan).

If i had a bit of coin and my own studio, this thing would be getting the slipcase/metal tin with hardcover artbook and bonus materials/Working Designs premium treatment, just to make it that much more special a game. I love it THAT MUCH!

[Lekon]

Those skeletons are godawful in 4-2. They get a big HP and damage boost.

4-2 is where most people do soul grinding, but you can get quite alot just doing some levels to completion (for the items enemies drop. Doing 2-1 is great for stones).

4-2 starts with a little walk, a guy selling arrows, and an overhang where you can snipe a reaper. 3-5 shots (depending on how good your bow/arrows are) will kill it, and kill everything except you in the room *bam* 4500 souls.

I couldn't agree more about the "sinking time into it" over 24 hours. You just don't want to turn it off. "Okay, one more level. Or wait, I can go PVP, or oooh, I could... go do some damage on that boss and try him again..."

[Virtual Machine]

Those skeletons are godawful in 4-2. They get a big HP and damage boost.

4-2 is where most people do soul grinding, but you can get quite alot just doing some levels to completion (for the items enemies drop. Doing 2-1 is great for stones).

4-2 starts with a little walk, a guy selling arrows, and an overhang where you can snipe a reaper. 3-5 shots (depending on how good your bow/arrows are) will kill it, and kill everything except you in the room *bam* 4500 souls.

I couldn't agree more about the "sinking time into it" over 24 hours. You just don't want to turn it off. "Okay, one more level. Or wait, I can go PVP, or oooh, I could... go do some damage on that boss and try him again..."

Whenever i get into 4-1 now there's a new bastard. Ninja Skeleton with a red aura pops with one of the other ones, and he proceeds to fuck my shit up. I'm pretty much back and forth between that and 1-2 right now. Managed to get to the Tower Knight but he flattened me with his shield.

[Lekon]

Whenever i get into 4-1 now there's a new bastard. Ninja Skeleton with a red aura pops with one of the other ones, and he proceeds to fuck my shit up. I'm pretty much back and forth between that and 1-2 right now. Managed to get to the Tower Knight but he flattened me with his shield.

PM me later and I'll try to setup a co op thing with you. If we can get you to 4-2, you'll have a lot easier time building up your character for much of the stuff. Did you stick with the temple knight?

[Virtual Machine]

I did. Was going through 2-1 until my wife suggested we actually, y'know, do something together. Sheesh!

I think i clocked about 10 hours yesterday though ;)

[x Returner x]

Still waitting for my copy got my fingers crossed for this week. Anybodt playing a thief? How well does a thief do at rolling around the AI in tight spaces? I was thinking of making a Thief or a Temple Knight.

[MalReynolds]

i was watching VM play it last night

[Virtual Machine]

Still waitting for my copy got my fingers crossed for this week. Anybodt playing a thief? How well does a thief do at rolling around the AI in tight spaces? I was thinking of making a Thief or a Temple Knight.

I'm using the temple knight. Outside of getting rid of his Halberd for a kick ass sword asap, he's pretty awesome.

[x Returner x]

I'm using the temple knight. Outside of getting rid of his Halberd for a kick ass sword asap, he's pretty awesome.

sounds cool, have you played a thief?

[Lekon]

sounds cool, have you played a thief?

Don't think of the Theif, or Knight as a class. Those are just starting points. Anyone can roll like that, as long as their equipped weight is under half of their max equipment. The theif isn't strong, but he's wearing incredibly light armor, so he can roll like that without a problem.

A guy with a high enough endurance could roll like that in fluted plate armor. He'd still take the stamina regen hit from wearing metal armor though.

The patch changed a fair ammount of stuff. Oddly enough it looks like the meat cleaver got a buff instead of being weakened, and the way the World tendencies work has changed a fair bit.

[Virtual Machine]

Just thought i'd share a few pics of my character: taken with a digital cam off of the 50" LCD, so pardon the poor quality - you get the gist of how nice the game can look though :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/EldoradoSteve/demonsouls1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v448/EldoradoSteve/demonsouls2.jpg

[Stoke]

Just thought i'd share a few pics of my character: taken with a digital cam off of the 50" LCD, so pardon the poor quality - you get the gist of how nice the game can look though :)

perty stuff

Damn, that looks nice. As soon as I can snag a Play Asia coupon/this comes back in stock I'm going to order it. I can't take just seeing everyone talk about it anymore. :p

[Gorvi]

Damn it, VM, every time I turn on the PS3 I see you playing this. You're not helping me hold back from importing it when it's available again. :p

[Virtual Machine]

Gorvi, i'm tellin' you - this game is MADE for you. Someone who's devoted as much time to FFXI as you will be enslaved by its power. It is really, laying all jokes and hyperbole aside, my personal favorite game to come along since Oblivion (And i loved me some Oblivion).

Just something about the way it's put together. It's deeper than the deep end, mercilessly brutal at times, and a bit of a grinder, and at first glance, it's not the most technically accomplished game on the system, but you get deeper, it's got this underlying beauty hiding behind a simple, less artistic/more realistic style, excellent inventory and character advancement, amazing bosses, and when you learn the ins and outs of the system, it becomes sheer RPG bliss.

[Gorvi]

I know I'm going to have to get the game eventually, maybe I'll ask my wife for it for my birthday in May. I've got more games sitting on my shelf right now than I've got the time to play, so I really couldn't buy it in good conscience now, but maybe by that point it'll get a US release. This really looks like the kind of game I'd want to buy if it gets an official US release, just to show that there is a market over here.

[Virtual Machine]

I know I'm going to have to get the game eventually, maybe I'll ask my wife for it for my birthday in May. I've got more games sitting on my shelf right now than I've got the time to play, so I really couldn't buy it in good conscience now, but maybe by that point it'll get a US release. This really looks like the kind of game I'd want to buy if it gets an official US release, just to show that there is a market over here.

No doubt about it. When (i can't see this one staying Asian only for too long) it comes out here, i'll be buying it again.

[Lekon]

No doubt about it. When (i can't see this one staying Asian only for too long) it comes out here, i'll be buying it again.

Indeed. I can't wait to see it come out in America. I'd love to see more of the game period, through DLC or whatnot. They've already been patching it a bit to change some annoyances. I'm realy curious what the broken Archstone will become.

[Virtual Machine]

Likewise.

Killed the Adjudicator last night. That was an awesome fight. So 4-2 is now officially unlocked! I've also got over 20'000 souls to spend the next time i fire it up. Tonight hopefully!

[MalReynolds]

you'll be playing it right now ...-turns on PS3 to check-

[Virtual Machine]

More fun times in 3-1 and 4-2. 3-1 is this crazy labyrinthine prison (Don't start quoting Labyrinth again!) that's both awesome and totally confusing.

4-2 is just awesomeness. Found a hidden door which leads to some kind of item, only to come face to face with a goddamn black and gold, dual-katana wielding sumbitch who then proceeded to make my world a very scary place. All this after being kicked down a hole by some punk.

I love this game!
23 hours in now.

[Lekon]

4-2 is just awesomeness. Found a hidden door which leads to some kind of item, only to come face to face with a goddamn black and gold, dual-katana wielding sumbitch who then proceeded to make my world a very scary place. All this after being kicked down a hole by some punk.

I love this game!
23 hours in now.

That little spot you mentioned is important. The White Bow is there, one of the few powerful bows there is. Assuming you kill Mr Godsword there, go left. Hug the walls, and try not to fall, its not a wide path, but at the end is a white bow and some white arrows. Nasty, deadly, and pretty easy to miss.

[Virtual Machine]

That little spot you mentioned is important. The White Bow is there, one of the few powerful bows there is. Assuming you kill Mr Godsword there, go left. Hug the walls, and try not to fall, its not a wide path, but at the end is a white bow and some white arrows. Nasty, deadly, and pretty easy to miss.

Duly noted. I'll have to annihilate the bastard later this evening.

Did discover a (sort of) cheat. If you die, and you can manage to hit your PS button and quit out before the "You Died!" message starts taunting you, you can revert to your most recent save point. I've used it once or twice now, but i'm trying not to make a habit of it. :)

[x Returner x]

You are killing me. I have to have this game now. If it doesn't come in tomorrow I'll pull a Wayne Brady and choke a bitch.

[Virtual Machine]

You are killing me. I have to have this game now. If it doesn't come in tomorrow I'll pull a Wayne Brady and choke a bitch.
Thankfully, i'm in another country.

Maybe i should take a few more shitty pictures with my digital cam. ;)

[x Returner x]

Thankfully, i'm in another country.

Maybe i should take a few more shitty pictures with my digital cam. ;)

Oh I'm so going to PK you:D

Wait I just looked at your location you're not in anouther country you're in Canada:)

[Virtual Machine]

Oh I'm so going to PK you:D

Wait I just looked at your location you're not in anouther country you're in Canada:)

I have a 20-odd hour head start, not counting this evening when i get home from work, and tomorrow morning - IF your mail shows up tomorrow. Then you actually have to FIND the black gem doo-hickey, and then find me. Good luck with that ;) I'll be level 'fuck you' by then :)

Ouch on the country crack. You bastard.

[x Returner x]

I have a 20-odd hour head start, not counting this evening when i get home from work, and tomorrow morning - IF your mail shows up tomorrow. Then you actually have to FIND the black gem doo-hickey, and then find me. Good luck with that ;) I'll be level 'fuck you' by then :)

Ouch on the country crack. You bastard.

lol, you have a head start but I have 3 weeks of compt time coming. I'm going to play that game till my eyes bleed then play some more.

[Virtual Machine]

lol, you have a head start but I have 3 weeks of compt time coming. I'm going to play that game till my eyes bleed then play some more.

I envy you, i truely do.

My thumbs are twitching just thinking about playing it. Anyone wanna take my wife and kids for a few weeks? :)

[x Returner x]

Don't know if this (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/intro) has been posted here too many pages to go looking. This is a great wiki (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/intro) at least it seems so since I haven't played the game.

[Virtual Machine]

Don't know if this (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/intro) has been posted here too many pages to go looking. This is a great wiki (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/intro) at least it seems so since I haven't played the game.

I've been checking it out. It's pretty thorough, but not as "all-informative" with regards to levels and layout and what not as it could be. But considering it's just a few guys who post on the Demon's Souls forum over at Gamefaqs, man it's awesome work.

[MalReynolds]

may have to accually get this -.-

[Lekon]

Duly noted. I'll have to annihilate the bastard later this evening.

Did discover a (sort of) cheat. If you die, and you can manage to hit your PS button and quit out before the "You Died!" message starts taunting you, you can revert to your most recent save point. I've used it once or twice now, but i'm trying not to make a habit of it. :)

Cheat does have a downside. Whenever you quit/restart, all world tendencies go to neutral. So if you're trying to get some Black Tendency events, just let yourself die. (As of last patch, if you die in living form, your world goes rather dark)

[x Returner x]

Demon's Souls FUCK YEAH. Just got it can't wait to get home.

[Lekon]

Demon's Souls FUCK YEAH. Just got it can't wait to get home.

How're you liking it now that you have the chance to play it?

[x Returner x]

How're you liking it now that you have the chance to play it?

I love it. I'm lvl 26 I have been playing all night it's 7:30 am here. That game is tough but I love it. Having fun killing people with a spike shield. Bitch slap FTW.

[Lekon]

I love it. I'm lvl 26 I have been playing all night it's 7:30 am here. That game is tough but I love it. Having fun killing people with a spike shield. Bitch slap FTW.

I've seen a few people with the spike shield... where the hell is it?

[x Returner x]

I've seen a few people with the spike shield... where the hell is it?

I got it as a drop in 1-1 or 1-2 but can't remember from who I was dead tired.

[Virtual Machine]

I got it as a drop in 1-1 or 1-2 but can't remember from who I was dead tired.

I picked it up way back in 1-2. Seems like an eternity ago.

Just finished off 4-2 and 3-1. The Old Hero was goddamn awesome, actually, The Fool's Idol was pretty badass as well. Loving the bossfights in this game.

[Lekon]

Finally beat the game once. Now for newgame plus, to get the other ending!

[x Returner x]

Finally beat the game once. Now for newgame plus, to get the other ending!

Nice, I beat it a couple nights ago. I can't wait to see the oter ending.

[Shandor]

Finally got this damn game. Enjoying it so far. I've only finished 1-1 so far, though.

[Lekon]

Nice, I beat it a couple nights ago. I can't wait to see the oter ending.

Was easy as a mage... almost. There were certian parts that were a royal pain in the arse. Did you end up getting the Red Eye stone, or a different reward? Don't really want to spoil endings obviously.


And welcome to the game, Shandor. Stay out of the valley of defilement! Its the worst area to start in.

[Virtual Machine]

Yeah, i'm in there now. Back and forth between 5-1 and 4-3.

Killed The Flamelurker the other night, that was amazing.

[Shandor]

And welcome to the game, Shandor. Stay out of the valley of defilement! Its the worst area to start in.

Not even sure where that is yet. :) I've only started 1-2 and 2-1 so far. Never gotten past the end of the wall at the start of 1-2 (where the archers and the blue-eye knight are) or the fire mage (or as Returner calls him, "that bastard flame thowing freak clown") a couple rooms into 2-1. I figure I'll build up my character a little.

I started with a Knight and later made a Royal (who is much easier to play so far). Got them both finished with 1-1 so far. The Royal sure doesn't have to pay as much in repairs. :)

[x Returner x]

Was easy as a mage... almost. There were certian parts that were a royal pain in the arse. Did you end up getting the Red Eye stone, or a different reward? Don't really want to spoil endings obviously.


And welcome to the game, Shandor. Stay out of the valley of defilement! Its the worst area to start in.

I'll have to check I hope I got the redeyed stone.

[Virtual Machine]

I've got 1-3 and 1-4 and i'm done. The final boss fight in the Valley of Defilement was fantastic. I've been loving how this game has handled the storyline. It takes the "less is more" approach to a degree, but everything is handled very well, and there's definitely a feeling that there's a lot more going on than you know, and it wasn't just cooked up to give you an excuse to hack at things.

This is, thus far, possibly my favorite game of this console generation. After 40 hours of play or more, i feel i'm ready to comment on some changes that, if made, could really put this game over the top in North America:

- The online REALLY needs voice and or text chat support - but stick to the premade macros for notes.

- A few translation fixes here and there with items and inventory, "Sticky White Stuff" would HAVE to go.

- Other players already appear in your game as white phantoms, more akin to Fable II, players on your friends list should appear as pale blue (and perhaps display their psn ID when targeted) or something similar, and should allow interaction (chat, item trading, etc).

- We should be able to break down found weapons for minerals at the very least (stones of hardening or sharpening for example), or better yet, exchange them for souls (costs don't have to be high, in the double to triple digits for all but the rarest). Or if we could send them to other players on our list via "Stockpile Thomas". (I'd be happy with 10 souls for a Broken Sword for example, or 10 for a slave's shield). As it is my stockpile is FILLED with useless stuff.

- A nice special edition in a slipcase with an artbook and pretty packaging. Just because it's the kind of game i could have seen Working Designs give the deluxe treatment back in the day, and i love that kind of shit.

[Stoke]

I've finally said fuck it with my order. Seems to be out of stock everywhere and after 2.5 weeks of waiting for it to ship I'm not in the mood anymore. There are plenty of games I can waste my money on now. Hopefully it's eventually released over here.

[MalReynolds]

Steve order me one will you ?

[Virtual Machine]

Steve order me one will you ?

Show me the money!


On the last level now, and it is a BITCH.

[Virtual Machine]

Just published my review of Demon's Curse over at Pixelverdict.com (http://pixelverdict.com/) for those who feel inclined to get my (very lengthy) thoughts on the game.

Cheers

[Gorvi]

Just published my review of Demon's Curse over at Pixelverdict.com (http://pixelverdict.com/) for those who feel inclined to get my (very lengthy) thoughts on the game.

Cheers
Are you going to review Demon's Souls too? ;)

[Virtual Machine]

Are you going to review Demon's Souls too? ;)

Man, i've been doing that for the last month. Dammit!

[Gorvi]

After seeing a lot of import reviews turning up recently, all pretty damn positive, combined with all the love the game has gotten in this thread, I'll be importing the game. I'm going to wait until after E3, just in case it's announced for release here, but otherwise I'll order it the week after.

[menage]

Just saw the Eurogamer rview, a big 9/10. I'm with Gorvi, if it's not announced soon I'll place that order.

Sony should pay attention if there's a winner in their camp. This really reminds me of the "good old days" when I would browse my magazines and see games I've never got to play, but wanted terribly bad.

[menage]

Well, couldn't resist, ordered it but they say it's at least 30 days of. Don't mind, but at least it's coming sometime.

[Xerxes]

Well, couldn't resist, ordered it but they say it's at least 30 days of. Don't mind, but at least it's coming sometime.

One day wait? You willpower is sooooo strong. :D

I'm still holding out hope. By time I move to buy it though copies should be aplenty. I think From would have done well to bring this one over. I had higher hopes for it than Ninja Blade, and it seems I was correct.

[menage]

One day wait? You willpower is sooooo strong. :D



Seems I don't have any if there's a kick-ass knight in the game. :P

[Xerxes]

Lekonor VM, is all this stuff true.


http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showpost.php?p=263838&postcount=6

[Tayaya]

Lekonor VM, is all this stuff true.


http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showpost.php?p=263838&postcount=6

Oh yes... it's all true. All of it!

My copy came last night, and I am already in love with this game.

[Tayaya]

Okay.... I need some help from the Demon's Souls veterans here.

I beat 1-1 without any issues, but 1-2 is killing me. Lots. I tried for 4 hours yesterday. I can get to the Tower knight without incident, though some runs are better than others depending on how things with the two knights right before his chamber go (usually they don't hit me at all but if I'm charging in frustrated it can get ugly). I cannot for the life of me get the knight to fall over, though... been hacking away at his ankle until I'm bathing in blue misty blood, but he never goes down. Also, I have a very hard time blocking his sword pokes... can they be blocked at all? What's the easiest way to get behind him?

I also need to kill the red dragon, but that's just a matter of being able to keep enough souls on hand to get enough arrows to do the job. (losing over 5000 when I couldn't get back to my bloodstain by the Tower Knight really did almost make me cry).

I'm only Soul Level 15, a soldier, should I go to 2-1 and farm souls there for a bit, or should I be able to kill the Tower Knight at this level?

[Evil Avnovice]

Off-topic: Y'all don't mind if I shill this Amazon page (http://www.amazon.com/Demons-Souls-Playstation-3/dp/B002AB7TX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1243115783&sr=1-1)?

[Gorvi]

Off-topic: Y'all don't mind if I shill this Amazon page (http://www.amazon.com/Demons-Souls-Playstation-3/dp/B002AB7TX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1243115783&sr=1-1)?
Why not? I find this to be very amusing for some reason:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41yxHfNvX%2BL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[Xerxes]

Off-topic: Y'all don't mind if I shill this Amazon page (http://www.amazon.com/Demons-Souls-Playstation-3/dp/B002AB7TX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1243115783&sr=1-1)?

I already pre-ordered from the Amazon CoG widget on the front page.

[menage]

Woohoo. Just got an email it's been posted. Probably will take a week from Hong Kong though. but hey, you never know:P

[DarkDay]

This game makes me wish I had a ps3 so bad....fuck. I want both.

[Tayaya]

Off-topic: Y'all don't mind if I shill this Amazon page (http://www.amazon.com/Demons-Souls-Playstation-3/dp/B002AB7TX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1243115783&sr=1-1)?

Avnovice shilling something that's not a Nintendo product? I don't know if this is allowed. May wanna get a mod in here and find out. :D

[Evil Avnovice]

Avnovice shilling something that's not a Nintendo product? I don't know if this is allowed. May wanna get a mod in here and find out. :D

Definitely front-page worthy. :p

[Tayaya]

Definitely front-page worthy. :p

Word.

Finally got un-stuck in Demon's souls. I beat the red dragon the boring, tedious way, leveled up 3-4 stats off that encounter alone, destroyed the Tower Knight and opened up most of 2-1 with no drama (haven't made it to the boss yet). Loving this game soooo much.

[Tayaya]

My only regret about purchasing Demon's Souls is waiting so long to finally get on this bandwagon. Just got killed by the Flame Lurker.... this is the kind of game that the PS3 needs... exclusives like this, not more first person shooters (though I do love Killzone 2 and Resistance 1 (not so much 2 for some reason).

[MalReynolds]

im waiting for the NA release

[menage]

I spend my first hours with Demon's Souls. I'm already convinced the game is awesome but it's quite different and don't get all of it yet.

I tried looking around a bit but can anyone tell me -

How does levelling up work in this game. I made some ventures into 1-1 but all you really get is Souls which can be traded for stuff at the smith.

All the items you find, like lower slave shields and such, can be stored, but do they actually have a use besides that? You can't sell em (yet), and other than that I don't see the use.

[danhoo]

I spend my first hours with Demon's Souls. I'm already convinced the game is awesome but it's quite different and don't get all of it yet.

I tried looking around a bit but can anyone tell me -

How does levelling up work in this game. I made some ventures into 1-1 but all you really get is Souls which can be traded for stuff at the smith.

All the items you find, like lower slave shields and such, can be stored, but do they actually have a use besides that? You can't sell em (yet), and other than that I don't see the use.

menage -- I've been told the following is a good resource if you haven't already seen it:

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

from there, it sounds like you can't use souls for experience until you defeat the first real boss (Phalanx). Not sure about selling items (but you can upgrade them via blacksmiths). I'm sure the many other Demon Soul's fans on this forum will offer their advice.

(I'm very happy Atlus is bring this to the US, btw)

[menage]

menage -- I've been told the following is a good resource if you haven't already seen it:

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

from there, it sounds like you can't use souls for experience until you defeat the first real boss (Phalanx). Not sure about selling items (but you can upgrade them via blacksmiths). I'm sure the many other Demon Soul's fans on this forum will offer their advice.

(I'm very happy Atlus is bring this to the US, btw)

Cool, thanks dude!

[Tayaya]

I spend my first hours with Demon's Souls. I'm already convinced the game is awesome but it's quite different and don't get all of it yet.

Other questions...

If the wiki didn't help ya out too much:

You are stuck at your base level until you defeat Phalanx, your first Demon, after opening up the main gate to the castle. Once the first boss is defeated and you go back to the Nexus, the Maiden in Black will teach you how to give her your souls for more power.

Since unlocked doors and things STAY unlocked when you leave, even though enemies respawn, what I do at the beginning of a section is work on "opening up" the level, then leaving before the boss fight so I don't die and lose all my souls (For example, when I did 1-4 I died a few times in the actual level and by the time I got to the boss I had 25,000, so I left and spent them once the path back to the boss was unlocked).

Can't sell items, weapons, blah blah blah..... you have to earn all of your souls the hard way, and as such you will end up with huge stocks of useless crap (but you can drop items you don't want if you like).

For some of the more useless items, I guess some of the more powerful items in the game require other base weapons to use as ingredients, so keep at least one or two of these pieces of garbage around just in case. The stockpile guy never runs out of space as far as I can tell, so just give him things that you naturally don't want to carry.

I'm doing very well so far.... put about 20 hours in and have beaten exactly half of the game's bosses. At times I feel that my extra grinding has left me overpowered, but then at other times I get ROCKED in 1-2 hits by a powerful enemy, so I still feel that I'm on-target. Definitely one of the best times to slip in under my radar in a long time, and probably my favorite From Software title, ever.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask! The wiki fluctuates a lot between being useful and useless, as it looks like they had a lot of "unauthorized" content up there, and the rightful owners of that material have taken it down. I don't have nearly as much experience as some of the people out there, but I'll help with what I do know!

[menage]

Big wall of usefull info

Great man. I beat Phalanx yesterday and indeed found out that the leveling gets done after that, but the weapon stuff still was vague to me. For instance, you get some old maggoty clothes in 1-1 after you get the cling ring. But seeing as your base armor was even more powerful than your obtained clothes I failed to see the point in them if you can't sell em or use them as parts for new weapons/armor to build. So I should just give those to the stockpile man I guess, cause later on I can maybe use them to make other stuff?

About the game. I freaking love it. It's the first game in weeks which made me totally forget about Fallout. I just want to play and play some more. I get a real Shadow of Colossus vibe from the game, and the bossfight with Phalanx alone was a pretty epic 15 minutes. Really fulfilling when the fucker went down.

The story interludes are very well done, and I love how it keeps you in the dark about a lot of stuff. Just dumps you there and go find out for yourselves. I love how the game is really mysterious about what the hells going on and what your supposed to be doing. Very mature in a way.

Everyone with a remote interest in RPG's and adventure should really check it out.

Oh yeah. A lot of the messages people drop are kind of vague, but I keep seeing one saying "this is pretty harsh, please evaluate me?", any idea what evaluate means? Or is that you rating that mesage. I'm also not sure of the use of the red bloodtains, seeing as you only see player swinging and dying.

[x Returner x]

Great man. I beat Phalanx yesterday and indeed found out that the leveling gets done after that, but the weapon stuff still was vague to me. For instance, you get some old maggoty clothes in 1-1 after you get the cling ring. But seeing as your base armor was even more powerful than your obtained clothes I failed to see the point in them if you can't sell em or use them as parts for new weapons/armor to build. So I should just give those to the stockpile man I guess, cause later on I can maybe use them to make other stuff?


The different clothes are for different play styles. Some are good for magic others faith. The heavy armor is great for protection but you can't roll around. I use leather on my alt and King Doren's armor for my main. Also some armor is for female only as well as male only. After 120 hours of playing I will never use heavy armor again.

[miah]

I'll be checking this out Thursday. A local friend of mine was telling me about this game last week and I'm super interested in trying it. Of course, you guys are already on the bandwagon =)

[Tayaya]

The different clothes are for different play styles. Some are good for magic others faith. The heavy armor is great for protection but you can't roll around. I use leather on my alt and King Doren's armor for my main. Also some armor is for female only as well as male only. After 120 hours of playing I will never use heavy armor again.

When i fought the 2-3 boss, who shall remain nameless, I took off all my armor to cut down on repair bills, since I was a one-hit kill anyway, and I was amazed at how much more agile and fast my character was, especially in a run. As much as I love my plate armor, I'm really looking forward to another run as a royal or thief, when i finally get through the game proper! Right now I'm using a soldier, but wearing the Knight armor you pick up in 3-1, and the Silver Bracelet to help collect a few extra souls along the way at the expense of a little defense.

As for weapons though, I'm still using the sword I started with, upgraded to +7, a +5 Winged Spear, and the Compound Short Bow +5... Heater Shield +6 for defense. I do OK with this combination... should I really worry about changing it if it's working well for me?

[x Returner x]

As for weapons though, I'm still using the sword I started with, upgraded to +7, a +5 Winged Spear, and the Compound Short Bow +5... Heater Shield +6 for defense. I do OK with this combination... should I really worry about changing it if it's working well for me?

No always go with what works for you there are bigger damage dealers in the game but that doesn't mean the'll meet your play style. But you should always try other combos never know what might work for you. Also increasing your endurance will allow you to roll around in heavier gear there is a ring that will do this as well but its kind of a waste to use when there are better rings.

[menage]

Fuck this game is tough. I've been levelling up to level 15 and still can't make it past the 2 knights at the end of the bridge in zone 1-2. Must .... try ..... harderrrr.

[MalReynolds]

fuck October is really far away

[x Returner x]

Fuck this game is tough. I've been levelling up to level 15 and still can't make it past the 2 knights at the end of the bridge in zone 1-2. Must .... try ..... harderrrr.

Parry the knight’s attack with L2 and counter with R1 as soon as you hear a sound effect and his arms go flying back. This counter aka riposte will do more damage than a backstab.

[menage]

Parry the knight’s attack with L2 and counter with R1 as soon as you hear a sound effect and his arms go flying back. This counter aka riposte will do more damage than a backstab.

Cool, thanks. I still find the parrying quite difficult at times. Maybe I should go practice with the first knight.

[Norse]

Is there an European/American release date yet? The game seems to be spot on for a Fable & Oblivion fan like me.

[Gorvi]

Is there an European/American release date yet? The game seems to be spot on for a Fable & Oblivion fan like me.
It's coming in early October in the US from Atlus, nothing on a European release as far as I know. The more I look at the game the more I think I'll actually get it when it comes out.

[Tayaya]

Is there an European/American release date yet? The game seems to be spot on for a Fable & Oblivion fan like me.

May as well just import it NOW, if you live in Europe. American retailer NCS (www.ncsx.com) is scheduled to get a big shipment of these next week, but be advised they sell out pretty fast. This is like the 8th or 9th pressing of the Asian version, but they're starting to slow down and only produce as many as they get confirmed orders from distribution for, so everyone would be advised to snatch it up now before the eBay prices start to go up.

I did get one for a friend, new and un-opened, from eBay for $49 last week... quite the steal.

[Tayaya]

No always go with what works for you there are bigger damage dealers in the game but that doesn't mean the'll meet your play style. But you should always try other combos never know what might work for you. Also increasing your endurance will allow you to roll around in heavier gear there is a ring that will do this as well but its kind of a waste to use when there are better rings.

Thanks for the advice. I picked up the Crescent Falchion +1 in 4-1 and may switch to that, at least for things that are weak to magical weapons... MP regen plus it has a higher attack stat than my original Broadsword right now, thanks to its A rank in Magic. Impressive stats but I haven't tried using it yet. About to upgrade to the Lava Bow, too...

[menage]

Wow, I just beat the armor spider demon. Well, actually, I joined up with some random online players who dashed through the whole level with eases and they shaved half of his bar away in the end, they died and I finished it up with the crossbow from a distance. After the 5 hour journey to cross the bridge and defeat the tower knight I kinda earned that one:D. Best online thing I played in quite some time.

I'm still not any clearer on how to sway the good evil balance in a world though. The tunnel world is actually illuminated right now but I''dont know how that happened. Still to early to figure out?

[Lekon]

I'm still not any clearer on how to sway the good evil balance in a world though. The tunnel world is actually illuminated right now but I''dont know how that happened. Still to early to figure out?


A Demon's Souls Wiki (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/)


Use it, looove it. Well, stick to the world/person tendency section. That doesn't have any real spoilers in it, but does describe the weirdness that is this games tendency system.

[Nura]

Oh my, gonna import this baby as soon as there's cash on the bankaccount again!

[menage]

A Demon's Souls Wiki (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/)


Use it, looove it. Well, stick to the world/person tendency section. That doesn't have any real spoilers in it, but does describe the weirdness that is this games tendency system.

Thanks, I was kinda doubtful of using it to look it up in case of massive spoilers indeed. Just scrolled through, you could make a study out of it, very weird and massive.

[Shandor]

Oh my, gonna import this baby as soon as there's cash on the bankaccount again!

Atlus announced around E3 that they were actually going to be bringing this to the US soon. They put up a web site for it (http://www.demons-souls.com/), but haven't given too much info on when yet... at least not that I could find from a quick Google search. :)

[Xerxes]

Atlus announced around E3 that they were actually going to be bringing this to the US soon. They put up a web site for it (http://www.demons-souls.com/), but haven't given too much info on when yet... at least not that I could find from a quick Google search. :)

Look up about 10 post. It's already common knowledge. :o

[Nura]

Atlus announced around E3 that they were actually going to be bringing this to the US soon. They put up a web site for it (http://www.demons-souls.com/), but haven't given too much info on when yet... at least not that I could find from a quick Google search. :)

As good as that sounds, i'm from the EU ;)