[PS3] Demon's Souls

[Xydarc]

So I'm slowly working my way through Stonefang (2-1?). The miners are tough. My +3 axe doesn't hit like it did in 1-1. However, I have a great 1-2 punch. I upgraded a spike shield to +1, and now I rock those miners like Evander Holyfield. L2-R1-L2-R1 and they go down. If I time it right, I don't get hit at all.

[Camel]

Alirght. This bridge is starting to get a little frustrating. If I'm not getting rocked by knights and archers, I'm getting toasted by dragons for standing the slightest bit too far ahead. I really need to stop playing and come back fresh, but where would the fun be in that?

[Xydarc]

Alirght. This bridge is starting to get a little frustrating. If I'm not getting rocked by knights and archers, I'm getting toasted by dragons for standing the slightest bit too far ahead. I really need to stop playing and come back fresh, but where would the fun be in that?
Farm some souls before the bridge. Then, hit up the blacksmith in the Nexus for 200-300 arrows. Then, go back to the bridge, race across the first part, when you get in the tunnel, there is an opening to the right. There are stairs up and down. Go up first and clear out that first tower. Then go downstairs and go right. Tread carefully, the Skeglings aren't bad, but the dogs can be nasty. Just past the dogs and before a crossbow guy, there are stairs leading up to a 2nd tower. Clear out that tower and loot the compound bow. If you keep going "underground" you'll find the Skegling (Skagling?) merchant. Make your way underground again back to tower 1. Go all the way to the top of tower 1, equip the compound bow and arrows. Ready the bow, hit Triangle, then hit L1. You're in snipe mode and just keep sending arrows into the dragon until it dies. Once it's dead, it doesn't come back. Plus, you can go to the roost in 1-1 and loot a couple items.:D

I'm about to hit Armor Spider. Wish me luck!

[Spigot]

I can't wait to see what Kel's impressions of the game are :)

[bstiff]

Wow, FedEx showed up at 10 AM to drop off Demon's Souls. That was...fast.

Will be opening it in a few seconds. I was playing LBP demo and my girlfriend was watching. She asked how we can buy the game. Looks like another game will be in my future. :)

yeah I was surprised. Ate breakfast and it was on my doorstep. There's an area in 1-1 Im not sure how to get to. If you're facing the phalanx gate and look to the left there a field with a bunch of loot lights but I have no idea how to get down there. There's a rusty gate down stairs to the left but no way to open it. Is this an area that I come back to much later?

[menage]

yeah I was surprised. Ate breakfast and it was on my doorstep. There's an area in 1-1 Im not sure how to get to. If you're facing the phalanx gate and look to the left there a field with a bunch of loot lights but I have no idea how to get down there. There's a rusty gate down stairs to the left but no way to open it. Is this an area that I come back to much later?

Prepare to see a lot of the same stuff, over and over again. So yes you will come back there a lot.

[Kelegacy]

I can't wait to see what Kel's impressions of the game are :)

I just opened the gate in 1-1 (I guess it's 1-1) and I'm guessing I'm near a boss. I had to stop and quit because I wanted some respite for my nerves. I've been taking my time. Had some interruptions today so I didn't get to game as much as I could. And this isn't a game I can sit in front of for 10 hours straight. Need some breathers. :)

I am a Hunter I think. Like I said in the Weekend Gamer thread, I keep eating my items by accident because when the game prompts me to press X, I hit square instead...because I've been gaming on a 360 for too long. The X button on that controller is in a different spot. :(

I haven't had too many issues. Haven't lost any souls yet, since I am able to make it back to my bloodstain the couple times I died--I get greedy sometimes and try to go for an extra hit on an enemy. I even left a message that was recommended. :) I like that any enemy is a potential death...it definitely suits my style of play: slow and deliberate.

I don't know how much I'll replay the game after I'm done (really, the game requires replay while still playing the game) but I'm having a blast so far. I almost wish there was a quicksave function so I wouldn't be frightened around what's the next corner every second. But that's what makes it hardcore. I love Quicksave features and save-anywhere in my games, but it sorta does take out the dread when you have those. And this game definitely has a lot of dread. Even climbing staircases makes you nervous--because if you fall, lights out.

[Ten19]

Alirght. This bridge is starting to get a little frustrating. If I'm not getting rocked by knights and archers, I'm getting toasted by dragons for standing the slightest bit too far ahead. I really need to stop playing and come back fresh, but where would the fun be in that?

I've spent the past three fucking hours on 1-2. Now I'm just trying to get my souls back to the Nexus so it doesn't feel like a complete waste of time.

I can deal with the dragon gauntlet, but the giant batch of blue-faced knights and archers all at once is a bit much.

[rein]

I'm starting to get into the game a bit more. I'm still only in 1-2 but I did manage to go back and beat the red-eye knight. I'm having trouble getting rid of the red dragon and my strength is so low I can't use the short compound bow yet. I'm trying to decide if it is worth farming souls to get it to 18. 18 str was not the path I wanted to take my character this early.

I made a run across the bridge and it didn't bother me much. At each section of the bridge, I ran out and baited the dragon and run back while he cleared that section for me.

One problem I am having is that my controller is suffering from the bluetooth bug. I've hardly ever experienced with any other game but it has happened twice now while playing Demon's Souls today(see above rant). Annoying.

[Xydarc]

The Armor Spider is a great way to get your body back. I've had 3 multiplayer experiences so far: 2 co-op, 1 pvp. The pvp was disappointing, because the player never appeared. I got the message that my world had been invaded, but...no invader.

I've got tons of upgrade stones. Where the hell is Blacksmith Ed?

[Xydarc]

I'm starting to get into the game a bit more. I'm still only in 1-2 but I did manage to go back and beat the red-eye knight. I'm having trouble getting rid of the red dragon and my strength is so low I can't use the short compound bow yet. I'm trying to decide if it is worth farming souls to get it to 18. 18 str was not the path I wanted to take my character this early.

I made a run across the bridge and it didn't bother me much. At each section of the bridge, I ran out and baited the dragon and run back while he cleared that section for me.

One problem I am having is that my controller is suffering from the bluetooth bug. I've hardly ever experienced with any other game but it has happened twice now while playing Demon's Souls today(see above rant). Annoying.
The short compound bow doesn't require 18 str. It's 11 str, 14 dex I believe.

[rein]

The short compound bow doesn't require 18 str. It's 11 str, 14 dex I believe. Can you go into sniper mode with it? *For some reason I read that as crossbow. I have the compound short bow and it shows str requirement as 18 and dex as 10. I upgraded it to +3 and it no longer shows a negative in the bonus damage. It shows 52 physical attack +7. I may give it a go tomorrow. I've read that people have used spells to kill it too. I can't seem to hit it with spells at all. It may be that I suck. :)

** and make that 3x now that I have suffered from the bluetooth bug. WTF? It used to never happen and now three times in one day?

[AliasRomanian]

I usually promise myself that I won't look at FAQ's for a game but this will be a must I'm sure! It's like a community game where we all need each others support :)!

[Grifter]

This game is kicking my ass and I love it! The last time I played a game with this amount of natural tension was probably in the early 90s.

I just beet the armor spider earlier today and am now going to head back to 1-2 to take out the bridge dragon and the giant knight... I lost just under 6k souls in 2-2 because of a stupid mistake so I need to take a breather from that level.

This may have been covered but I'm trying not to read too much of the thread in case of spoilers but do the items you have no interest in or use for ever come into play besides just handing them off to the storage guy? It makes the looting a bit less fun when you can't sell or trade the stuff you don't need.

[darkbase]

Goddamn! If Amazon doesn't ship this game tomorrow I'm gonna have to choke a bitch! Absolute worst thing about them! I love Amazon, but FUCK their shipping!

[Grifter]

Goddamn! If Amazon doesn't ship this game tomorrow I'm gonna have to choke a bitch! Absolute worst thing about them! I love Amazon, but FUCK their shipping!

Unfortunately tomorrow is Sunday and I believe Monday is a holiday so the game might not ship until Tuesday. You may be better off canceling the order and picking it up from Gamestop or the like.

[rein]

I finally killed the red dragon. I was up there screwing around with the bow and decided to give magic one more try. I killed it using the Soul Arrow spell. Took about 30 minutes but he is dead and I finally have free run of the bridge. He gave me a little over 7000 souls and a Small Flame-Scale Demon's soul. I'm going to skip across the bridge in peace now. :)

Also, can anyone answer a question for me. Do monsters scale with your soul level? I assume they do because some of the monsters that only took one shot to kill on level 1-1 are now taking two. I guess my next question is do bosses scale too?

[menage]

I hate that my soldier can't use magic. At least I can do some miracles.

I've got tons of upgrade stones. Where the hell is Blacksmith Ed?

I'm a fair part into the game and still haven't really been able to use his skills properly.
The hardest part for me is getting this weapong thing in order. I still don't know how anyone is supossed to really figure this shit out on his own.

[Kelegacy]

I want to ask this before I mess up. Before taking on the Boss in 1-1 (if there is one), can I return to the Nexus and use up the souls I've saved thus far? I'd be upset if I lost all my progress if I died. Not knowing what is next is awesome...but also drives me mad!

And if I return to Nexus, when I come back I have to replay the entire level, right? Meaning, the gates that I've opened, etc. won't be open?

I need to open up the manual obviously.

[Gorvi]

I want to ask this before I mess up. Before taking on the Boss in 1-1 (if there is one), can I return to the Nexus and use up the souls I've saved thus far? I'd be upset if I lost all my progress if I died. Not knowing what is next is awesome...but also drives me mad!

And if I return to Nexus, when I come back I have to replay the entire level, right? Meaning, the gates that I've opened, etc. won't be open?

I need to open up the manual obviously.
No, you can't use up your souls until you take down the first boss, unless it's buying something from the blacksmith or the NPC in the middle of 1-1. Don't worry, you really won't have that many, even if it seems like it at that time. Bring Firebombs and that will help you a lot with the boss, as well as Turpentine if you plan on doing much melee.

As far as the gates, no, those are open for good once you open them.

[menage]

I want to ask this before I mess up. Before taking on the Boss in 1-1 (if there is one), can I return to the Nexus and use up the souls I've saved thus far? I'd be upset if I lost all my progress if I died. Not knowing what is next is awesome...but also drives me mad!

And if I return to Nexus, when I come back I have to replay the entire level, right? Meaning, the gates that I've opened, etc. won't be open?

I need to open up the manual obviously.

Before boss 1-1 you can't level up. That happens after that. So any souls you get only go to repairing your armor. Basically. You'll need to get through 1-1 as fast as possible, cause it basicaly means wasted time and effort to redo it a lot.

But!... Doors and gates, items you've collected and such always stay the way they are whe you return to the Nexus. So it does pay off to open up some parts of it real quick. Just push on, even when tou think you're not about to make it. Only get back when your equipement is becoming shit.

I just killed the Penetrator! With Biorr's help mind you, good thing I found him. I totally missed him the first few times. Now I've got this big heap of Biorr armor as well. But it's useless cause I can't run in it. I'll stick with the helmet and the gloves though.

[Gorvi]

I swear, I see all these other players that I've played with in different armor, where the hell are they finding it? Are they still in their starting armor and it's a different class than mine or am I just missing something? So far the best armor I've found (shield aside) has been from that guy in the tunnel under the bridge in 1-2, I haven't seen anything else yet.

[menage]

I swear, I see all these other players that I've played with in different armor, where the hell are they finding it? Are they still in their starting armor and it's a different class than mine or am I just missing something? So far the best armor I've found (shield aside) has been from that guy in the tunnel under the bridge in 1-2, I haven't seen anything else yet.

Every class does look different. But a lot of armor is shared as well. And armor is acquired very sporadically along the way. Most of it is useless though. I changed armor 3 times or so in the whole game up until now.

[Tayaya]

Wow, I go away for the weekend and everyone seems to be making so much progress. I'm so proud of you guys! Last time I played the US version was Thursday, so I'm still back at having just finished off Armor Spider a couple of times. I'll be around to offer some help and hopefully team up with a few of you guys all week.

As for Armor Spider, I melee him too, but if you really want to go the cheap way out there's a spot in the tunnel that leads up to him that his fireballs can't reach. Right at the very back, all the way to the right. From there you can just plug away with Arrows until he falls. It's way more fun to fight him with melee, though.

For Arrows, once you get Patches in the Nexus (he'll be at the very top of the stairs that connect all the archstones), just buy Heavy Arrows from him. No need to mess with any other type, really. Heavy Arrows plus the Lava Bow = awesome.

Gorvi, you'll find armor throughout the game, usually just the starting armor for the other classes. There's lots of it in the Tower of Latria (full knight, wizard, and assassin armor if I remember right). There are some sets you can get from killing certain NPCs (Yurt the Silent Chief, for example, and Ostrava).

Nice to see some of you met Maneater..... god do I ever hate that one!

[Camel]

I've spent the past three fucking hours on 1-2. Now I'm just trying to get my souls back to the Nexus so it doesn't feel like a complete waste of time.

I can deal with the dragon gauntlet, but the giant batch of blue-faced knights and archers all at once is a bit much.
Heh, sounds like you ran into the exact same problem as me. The first time I went across the bridge I explored all the tunnels below it and got a bunch of souls, and then I just kept dying over, and over, and over. The more I played, the sloppier I got. Evnentually, I lost all those souls because I was rushing across the bridge and didn't move up as far as I needed to. After being roasted alive, I just kept sloppily trying to get across that bridge and kept dying in stupid ways (including running off a cliff to get away from wolves).

Bah! I'm going to take Xydarc's advice and just kill the dragon. I actually started the level farming souls to go buy enough arrows to take him down, but obviously my priorities changed somewhere along the way! :)

[Tayaya]

Heh, sounds like you ran into the exact same problem as me. The first time I went across the bridge I explored all the tunnels below it and got a bunch of souls, and then I just kept dying over, and over, and over. The more I played, the sloppier I got. Evnentually, I lost all those souls because I was rushing across the bridge and didn't move up as far as I needed to. After being roasted alive, I just kept sloppily trying to get across that bridge and kept dying in stupid ways (including running off a cliff to get away from wolves).

Bah! I'm going to take Xydarc's advice and just kill the dragon. I actually started the level farming souls to go buy enough arrows to take him down, but obviously my priorities changed somewhere along the way! :)

For that part at the end where you reach the castle wall and run into its group of defenders, you should have enough stamina left to kill two of the three archers on the ground quickly. Once they're out of the way you can usually recharge and kill the last one before the blue-eyes bastard gets to you. Dance with him a little closer to the tunnel entrance to avoid the fire from the two guys on top of the wall, but not IN the tunnel as you'll trigger blue-eyes number 2 to intercept you. For the knights, they are very difficult to parry, and lots of you seem to be having issues using riposte on them. Try circling them instead. Like the tactics I write earlier for the red-eyes knight. When you get behind them, remember to drop your shield to trigger the backstabbing animation vs a normal attack.

Instead of farming the bridge for souls to save up for arrows, I use the red-eyes knight in 1-1, since he gives you enough souls in one kill for 100 arrows.

[Spigot]

Grr. I hate you all. I'm still a day away from getting back home to my beloved PS3 and Demon's Souls.

Kel: Glad to see you're liking the game. I'm finding it fits my style of play perfectly too. I don't need another crazy action game. I want something that rewards my cowardice!

Rein: Did you ever stop getting the bluetooth bug? That sucks.

[Gorvi]

About the Bluetooth thing, are you still using a SIXAXIS? I haven't had that once happen since I got the DS3.

[Spigot]

People still use SIXAXIS controllers? Ye gods.

[rein]

Leave my Sixaxis alone. :) I'm not a fan of rumble so I have never felt the need to upgrade. If the DualShock 3 cures the bluetooth bug I am going to go grab one today. Like I said though, never had an issue until playing Demon's Souls.

[Xydarc]

I usually promise myself that I won't look at FAQ's for a game but this will be a must I'm sure! It's like a community game where we all need each others support :)!
Half the fun of this game is reading every else's experiences with it.:)

Goddamn! If Amazon doesn't ship this game tomorrow I'm gonna have to choke a bitch! Absolute worst thing about them! I love Amazon, but FUCK their shipping!
Release day shipping, my friend. Amazon had my copy of the CE on that Tuesday.


As for Armor Spider, I melee him too, but if you really want to go the cheap way out there's a spot in the tunnel that leads up to him that his fireballs can't reach. Right at the very back, all the way to the right. From there you can just plug away with Arrows until he falls. It's way more fun to fight him with melee, though.

For Arrows, once you get Patches in the Nexus (he'll be at the very top of the stairs that connect all the archstones), just buy Heavy Arrows from him. No need to mess with any other type, really. Heavy Arrows plus the Lava Bow = awesome.

Gorvi, you'll find armor throughout the game, usually just the starting armor for the other classes. There's lots of it in the Tower of Latria (full knight, wizard, and assassin armor if I remember right). There are some sets you can get from killing certain NPCs (Yurt the Silent Chief, for example, and Ostrava).

Hey, taking out Armor Spider ranged isn't cheap, it's a tactical decision. It's also my one easy way to get my body back.:cool:

I finally found Blacksmith Ed. He's in the basement of the "house" next to the Filthy Man merchant in 2-1 (Stonefang Tunnel). I recommend turning on the elevator first. Is the Lava Bow crafted? I'm loving bows in this game. Also, where are the spells and miracles? Do I have to rescue the Witch and Sage first? My next playthrough, I'm definitely going magic user; I'm having spell-chucker withdrawls.:p

I'm also wondering about armor. I'm still in my Hunter's starting Leather Armor. I'm not really looking to change if it reduces my mobility. The dodge button continues to save my ass over and over and over again.

Leave my Sixaxis alone. :) I'm not a fan of rumble so I have never felt the need to upgrade. If the DualShock 3 cures the bluetooth bug I am going to go grab one today. Like I said though, never had an issue until playing Demon's Souls.
I almost picked up a Blue DS3 last night. I'd get one, if only to avoid that bug.

[Xydarc]

I also forgot to ask: Where's the best place to farm Sticky White Stuff? I used up my supply enchanting my axe to clear those lava bugs out of the stupid mine tunnels.

[Tayaya]

I also forgot to ask: Where's the best place to farm Sticky White Stuff? I used up my supply enchanting my axe to clear those lava bugs out of the stupid mine tunnels.

It's really easier to just spend 5,000 souls on Enchant Weapon, which you only need one magic slot to use. Otherwise, there are some slugs in 4-2 that drop Sticky White Stuff, if I remember correctly.

For the Lava Bow, yes, it's a crafted weapon that you can get from Blacksmith Ed. If I remember correctly you need a bow (long or short) upgraded to either +4 or +7, and one of the demon's souls (but I forget which.... either the red dragon's or dragon god's I think). For those that are wondering how to get Ed to make you the good stuff, you have to give him the Red Hot Demon's Soul that you get when you kill Flamelurker. Just keep using the "talk" option until he asks you for it.

[rein]

I got my stuff from the nesting dragon. Suicide run it was but I only lost a little over 1500 souls. I will take that trade.

Quick question. I bought the Evacuate miracle and it will not let me use it. It's dimmed like I do not have enough magic power. Anyone know why? That is going to suck if I spent 20,000 souls for nothing.

Never mind, found the answer. UGH! I wish I would have looked that up a bit earlier. 20,000 souls would have been great for leveling until I can get the Talisman thingy. :(

[Evil Avnovice]

Squashed the Tower Knight yesterday morning. Save for a couple of near deaths, it was a breeze, but what did I get for my trouble:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-10122929.jpg

Then, I went back to Shrine of Storms, to take out the three red-eyed skeleton warriors and see who the boss for that area was. I scored a few useful items and ran into The Adjucidator (I know I'm misspelling the name). After I saw what I was looking at, that fight was easy too, with only 2-3 near deaths. I back out to the Nexus after killing it to get a free stat upgrade and go back to explore the new area. I made it as far as the spirits who had a long range laser-type attack. I was almost killed if not for the fact that I had an item that transported me back to the Nexus before the killing blow.

But it wasn't all in vain; I got a nifty shield that regenerates HP :D:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-10220814.jpg

[Spigot]

Nice shield!

Oh, and I didn't realize that Sticky White Stuff was an actual item in the game. I figured it was a joke because someone put it on a message on the floor in front of the lady who sits behind the blacksmith in the Nexus.

[Evil Avnovice]

After clearing those two bosses, I go back to Stonefang Tunnel and hit the mines again in the back, I have an easier time there since I'm a little more stronger, and discover that not only are the worms easier to deal with, but 1-2 well placed arrows aimed at their mouths takes them down in a pinch. The larger-sized lava beetles still take a fair amount of punishment, but strafing around them works for as long as I keep my distance when they jump.

And yes, it's still a long ways down.

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I made it to the very bottom:

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And run into Flamelurker. I take direct hits that eat into my stamina, and then me. I get in a hit before I get toasted several more times, and then I decide to back off for now. :p

[Tayaya]

And run into Flamelurker. I take direct hits that eat into my stamina, and then me. I get in a hit before I get toasted several more times, and then I decide to back off for now. :p

For Flamelurker, use your Purple Flame Shield, Ring of Fire Resistance, and Water Veil if you have it - those three items combined should shield you very wekk against his roasty-toasty attacks. He's weak to magical weapons, so Sticky White Stuff or Enchant Weapon will help you here too if you have them. In the KR version it's a great place to find blue souls to party up with, and they can be a tremendous help if they don't all die!

I'll be at him later if you want a hand. Home from work around 6:30CST.

[Banacek]

So tired of stupid work. I want to play this game.

[Tayaya]

So tired of stupid work. I want to play this game.

Same here, and the kicker is that I've already played it! Actually I wanna finish up Dead Space: Extraction tonight so I can trade it in... great game but with the 30% extra trade-in credit on Wii games this week, one that I'll happily trade in! But I will still be available for DS help tonight, I'll check my PSN messages between Dead Space chapters.

[Banacek]

Same here, and the kicker is that I've already played it! Actually I wanna finish up Dead Space: Extraction tonight so I can trade it in... great game but with the 30% extra trade-in credit on Wii games this week, one that I'll happily trade in!

I got home last night, and I was just too tired to play. This isn't one of those games you can pick up and play for a little while. You have to have time set aside for this :)

[Tayaya]

I got home last night, and I was just too tired to play. This isn't one of those games you can pick up and play for a little while. You have to have time set aside for this :)

It draws you in, yeah.

[menage]

I found a colorless Demons Soul. And I might have slain Miranda without even seeing it properly. I found Executioner clothes that is.

[Abyssion]

I finally killed the red dragon. I was up there screwing around with the bow and decided to give magic one more try. I killed it using the Soul Arrow spell. Took about 30 minutes but he is dead and I finally have free run of the bridge. He gave me a little over 7000 souls and a Small Flame-Scale Demon's soul. I'm going to skip across the bridge in peace now. :)


Where did you kill it from? I tried using soul arrow, but I was never sure if I was hitting it. (I tried from the tower on the bridge)

[Grifter]

Can Hunters use spells and if so where can I get some?

[Camel]

Where did you kill it from? I tried using soul arrow, but I was never sure if I was hitting it. (I tried from the tower on the bridge)
I don't know if soul arrow works the same way as normal arrows (which is what I used), but I just stood on the first tower you come to on the bridge and turned around. The dragon would swoop down and I would hit it one arrow at a time. You can barely see it's health bar pop up to show that you hit it, but it definitely does.

[rein]

I don't know if soul arrow works the same way as normal arrows (which is what I used), but I just stood on the first tower you come to on the bridge and turned around. The dragon would swoop down and I would hit it one arrow at a time. You can barely see it's health bar pop up to show that you hit it, but it definitely does.I'm pretty sure it works the same way. I was lining up to shoot with the bow to determine how many arrows I was going to need before deciding to try the Soul Arrow spell.

The way I did it is I lined up my shot from the third opening looking straight at the burned bodies on the bridge. You have to cast as soon as you see the dragon coming in to lead him into the shot. Don't lock on, you have to free cast. When you hit him you will be able to tell because he will have a small trail of smoke from the spell as he flies over. If you have access to the bow and lots of arrows I think it would be easier since sniper mode would rule. If you do decide to use spells, take some Old Spices to restore your magic when it runs out. Even with the MP regen ring it would take a while for it to refill. one more thing, casting caused my character to move backwards slightly after each cast. Be prepared to realign yourself a couple of times while taking him down.

[Xydarc]

Can Hunters use spells and if so where can I get some?
Anyone can use spells and miracles, but you have to have a spell slot or miracle slot open and a talisman equipped. How you get spells, I'm not sure yet. The sage and witch aren't in the nexus.

[Camel]

Can Hunters use spells and if so where can I get some?
There is a sage in the Nexus on the other side of the pit full of messages (on the opposite side of where the stockpile and blacksmith guys are). I was able to learn one spell. You will also need a catalyst (wand) in order to cast it. I found one somewhere along the way, but I don't remember where.

[Grifter]

OK I know the guy you are talking about but he just calls me a brute and tells me to go away. I have a catalyst but where do I get a talisman from and how do I open a spell slot?

[Wombat]

You need magic and intelligence to be at least 10 before you can get spells. That's probably why he's calling you a brute.

[Grifter]

You need magic and intelligence to be at least 10 before you can get spells. That's probably why he's calling you a brute.

OK, My intelligence is 11 but my magic is only 8... it's going to cost me almost 10k souls to get magic, is it worth it?

Woo! Hoo! I'm now a flame throwing Mother Fucker!
Lets just hope I can stay alive long enough to use it.

[Xydarc]

There is a sage in the Nexus on the other side of the pit full of messages (on the opposite side of where the stockpile and blacksmith guys are). I was able to learn one spell. You will also need a catalyst (wand) in order to cast it. I found one somewhere along the way, but I don't remember where.
Aw man, I knew I should have wandered around the Nexus more.:o

[Camel]

Right now I am using a scimitar +3. Should I just keep upgrading it, or am I wasting materials? I guess my real question is whether or not this sword is going to level up into something awesome, or if I am pouring too much money and materials into an inferior weapon.

EDIT: Just beat 2-1. Was quite easy as a hunter! The only real problem I had was getting hit by web bolts during the boss battle.

[Spigot]

Yeah, poke around in every nook and cranny. You'll be surprised what you find.

I love being able to lob flame but I wish the Spirit Grass was cheaper.

[Xydarc]

Right now I am using a scimitar +3. Should I just keep upgrading it, or am I wasting materials? I guess my real question is whether or not this sword is going to level up into something awesome, or if I am pouring too much money and materials into an inferior weapon.
In 2-2, in the mine tunnels, you'll find a Dragon Long Sword. I'd quit upgrading and start using that one. Or, take your stones to Ed and see if he can change it into something good.

[Xydarc]

Yeah, poke around in every nook and cranny. You'll be surprised what you find.

I love being able to lob flame but I wish the Spirit Grass was cheaper.
I know, first rule of RPGs...explore everywhere.:)

[Banacek]

So, got to play a bit today. Beat the Red Dragon and the Armor Spider. The Spiked Shield has really been a timesaver against some of these guys. The Blue Knights really don't seem to like it. What strength do you have to be to use the Purple Flame Shield? I think I'm at 16 STR right now. I'm still using a Long Sword+3, wondering if I should be looking to switch that to a new weapon. I think I need to beat 2-2 before Ed will make me some good weapons. Still enjoying this game, though I'm not sure how much my wife is enjoying it :)

[menage]

Anyone can use spells and miracles, but you have to have a spell slot or miracle slot open and a talisman equipped. How you get spells, I'm not sure yet. The sage and witch aren't in the nexus.

The Sage doesn't want to talk to me. He says he's too old for that shit.

I haven't been able to use magic, only miracles. Soldier class is me.

[Gorvi]

Took down the Abdjuca....... the fat dude. :p I also attempted to help someone with the Dragon God before that when I was still in soul form, and yeah, that didn't go so well.....

[Tayaya]

Glad to see everyone doing oh-so-well!

I got my ass handed to me several times last night by Flamelurker.... looks like they may have fixed him in the US version, as even when I got desperate (meaning I went in with only 3 late moon grass because I forgot to check that first). I couldn't get him stuck in his little corner of the world. As the evening wore on I just got sloppier and sloppier, so I eventually paid my armor repair bill and called it a night on Demon's Souls. I'll take him out later on today, and level up a bit.

I am happy to see that despite having gotten very good at the game, it can still remind me who's in charge every so often.

[Gorvi]

Glad to see everyone doing oh-so-well!

I got my ass handed to me several times last night by Flamelurker.... looks like they may have fixed him in the US version, as even when I got desperate (meaning I went in with only 3 late moon grass because I forgot to check that first). I couldn't get him stuck in his little corner of the world. As the evening wore on I just got sloppier and sloppier, so I eventually paid my armor repair bill and called it a night on Demon's Souls. I'll take him out later on today, and level up a bit.

I am happy to see that despite having gotten very good at the game, it can still remind me who's in charge every so often.
I did him with two souls helping out, and honestly, I'm not sure I would have been able to for a while without that. He's really fast, always moving, and he can hit pretty damn hard.

I think I may have overleveled for the Adjudicator, even though I was able to dodge him to the point where he didn't even touch me, he went down fast. I had to knock him down 3 times, the third time I only had to hit him once, he was nearly dead. I'm Soul Level 40 now, so yeah, maybe a little much.

[Kelegacy]

Beat Phalanx this morning, was pretty easy. I was throwing firebombs but somehow the guy replenished all his health. So I got in there and got dirty with my sword.

Then the baby started fussing so I had to quit.

[Tayaya]

I did him with two souls helping out, and honestly, I'm not sure I would have been able to for a while without that. He's really fast, always moving, and he can hit pretty damn hard.

I think I may have overleveled for the Adjudicator, even though I was able to dodge him to the point where he didn't even touch me, he went down fast. I had to knock him down 3 times, the third time I only had to hit him once, he was nearly dead. I'm Soul Level 40 now, so yeah, maybe a little much.

Nah, Adjucator's just that easy as long as you know his weakness. No one had blue soul markers up when I was down there by Flamelurker, so I had to go toe to toe with him on my own. Help definitely makes fighting him a LOT easier. In my opinion he's one of the toughest bosses in the game. 1-4 is pretty nasty too, mainly because he's just as powerful, aggressive, and relentless as Flamelurker.

Anyone do 4-3 yet? That's a fun one!

[Gorvi]

Then the baby started fussing so I had to quit.
Welcome to my world! ;) Seriously, though, one of the great things about Demon's Souls is that since it's always auto saving you can turn it off at a moment's notice then pick it right back up where you left off with no problem. I've had to do that a few times already when my kids have woken up in the morning without warning just coming out of their rooms, Demon's Souls is probably one of the last games I want them to see.

As an aside, I've finally started giving my melee skills some practice, up until yesterday I had been doing most of what I could at range with spells, only really finishing off enemies with my sword. Right now I'm using a Kilij +2, but looking for something better to use. Any suggestions?

[Xydarc]

So, got to play a bit today. Beat the Red Dragon and the Armor Spider. The Spiked Shield has really been a timesaver against some of these guys. The Blue Knights really don't seem to like it. What strength do you have to be to use the Purple Flame Shield? I think I'm at 16 STR right now. I'm still using a Long Sword+3, wondering if I should be looking to switch that to a new weapon. I think I need to beat 2-2 before Ed will make me some good weapons. Still enjoying this game, though I'm not sure how much my wife is enjoying it :)
You need 22 str to use purple flame shield effectively.

The Sage doesn't want to talk to me. He says he's too old for that shit.

I haven't been able to use magic, only miracles. Soldier class is me.
There's a "back" area to the Nexus that's split by that corridor of newbie messages. One side has a sage apprentice that will teach spells, and a disciple of god who will teach miracles. However, your Magic (spells) and Faith (miracles) have to be at least 10 in order to learn anything.

Glad to see everyone doing oh-so-well!

I got my ass handed to me several times last night by Flamelurker.... looks like they may have fixed him in the US version, as even when I got desperate (meaning I went in with only 3 late moon grass because I forgot to check that first). I couldn't get him stuck in his little corner of the world. As the evening wore on I just got sloppier and sloppier, so I eventually paid my armor repair bill and called it a night on Demon's Souls. I'll take him out later on today, and level up a bit.

I am happy to see that despite having gotten very good at the game, it can still remind me who's in charge every so often.
Aw, the official wiki says that there's a corner with a ribcage that you can hide under that's relatively safe. I was hoping to range Flamelurker like Armor Spider.:(

For fun, I checked out the Tower of Latria last night. I upgraded my Dragon Long Sword to +3 (who needs turpentine now?) and said a fond farewell to my starting axe. He was a good friend.:) Holy crap, those octo guys are nasty! They fall easily enough to my arrows, but you're fucked if they get that stun off on you. Then it's your worst hentai-tentacle-rape nightmares.:eek:

[Tayaya]

Aw, the official wiki says that there's a corner with a ribcage that you can hide under that's relatively safe. I was hoping to range Flamelurker like Armor Spider.:(


I know the ribcage from my many trips through the import. I went in there to heal up last night and he actually cornered me in there and wailed on me pretty hard core. On the left side of his arena there's a big skull you could trap him in too, but it looks like they added some extra rubble over there that prevents you from getting far enough to the left to get him stuck. I am glad that he seems a little harder to just be cheap against now, but I haven't legitimately fought Flamelurker in a long time... time for me to man up!

[Uno Ill Nino]

So I've killed Phalanx and Tower Knight now and am currently spelunking in the Tower Queen's realm. I just found the big hall outside with the barrage of arrows. Any way to get the treasure there? I've got my Purple Flame shield out, but the arrows have too much force and they push me back. I figure I must just need to get stronger?

Also, the enemies in this game give me such a Castlevania: SOTN vibe. I love it. :D

[Mortis]

I beat The Adjudicator last night, I got hit by his tongue on the way down twice but once I was on the ground floor I didn't get hit once. I took the shortcut to him to get his soul so I could make a meat clever, still need some stats before I can use it though. :(

For the Flamelurker if you run to the next fog in the back and stand by the rocks on the right at the top of the stairs he will get stuck on the stairs and you can shoot him with a bow or magic. Eventually he will hop right and charge up the stairs so it is pretty dangerous. I got him to about 30% health doing this several times before I went to the ribcage, it takes longer there because he comes after you after each shot but it is much safer.

I have killed the bosses of 1-1, 1-2, all of 2's bosses, red dragon, and The Adjudicator so far. I spent a lot of time building up a spear, made the scraping spear without doing enough research and now I regret it. It is made more for PVP it seems as it decreases equip durability with each hit, the damage is less than the +7 spear. So now I am working on the meat clever.

I also got the sword from Doran so I can forge North Regalia in NG+. I am going to build up an axe as well to make a Dozer, any suggestions which to use until I can forge? I have the executioner axe and a great axe, can't use the great axe until I buff my STR. I also got the brushwood armor set. Pretty good weekend overall, game is excellent.

[Xydarc]

I beat The Adjudicator last night, I got hit by his tongue on the way down twice but once I was on the ground floor I didn't get hit once. I took the shortcut to him to get his soul so I could make a meat clever, still need some stats before I can use it though. :(

For the Flamelurker if you run to the next fog in the back and stand by the rocks on the right at the top of the stairs he will get stuck on the stairs and you can shoot him with a bow or magic. Eventually he will hop right and charge up the stairs so it is pretty dangerous. I got him to about 30% health doing this several times before I went to the ribcage, it takes longer there because he comes after you after each shot but it is much safer.

I have killed the bosses of 1-1, 1-2, all of 2's bosses, red dragon, and The Adjudicator so far. I spent a lot of time building up a spear, made the scraping spear without doing enough research and now I regret it. It is made more for PVP it seems as it decreases equip durability with each hit, the damage is less than the +7 spear. So now I am working on the meat clever.

I also got the sword from Doran so I can forge North Regalia in NG+. I am going to build up an axe as well to make a Dozer, any suggestions which to use until I can forge? I have the executioner axe and a great axe, can't use the great axe until I buff my STR. I also got the brushwood armor set. Pretty good weekend overall, game is excellent.
That's awesome stuff. Thanks for the Flamelurker tips, he's my next target.

[Tayaya]

So I've killed Phalanx and Tower Knight now and am currently spelunking in the Tower Queen's realm. I just found the big hall outside with the barrage of arrows. Any way to get the treasure there? I've got my Purple Flame shield out, but the arrows have too much force and they push me back. I figure I must just need to get stronger?

Also, the enemies in this game give me such a Castlevania: SOTN vibe. I love it. :D

Yes, there's an alternate way around that bridge, and a way to switch off the machine. Try another route.

[Mortis]

That's awesome stuff. Thanks for the Flamelurker tips, he's my next target.

Good luck, he is a beast. When you do the trick I mentioned above he can also sometimes "reset" in the middle with his back to you and you can shoot him there as well. He did this for me twice. If you take your time between shots he doesn't go all roid rage and rush you. Boring but worth the time IMO, sure beats dying in a ball of fire. :D Soul Arrow does good damage as well if you have it.

[rein]

I messed around in 4-1 to pick up a Talisman and managed to get a Falchion +1 as well. I'm not too big on swords but this bad boy replenishes MP while holding it. I went a little further into the level and manged to get the Regen and Grave-Robber Ring before accidentally falling off a cliff. I lost my 7000 souls but I was deep in there and not sure I feel like dealing with the skeletons right now. I died a lot going through the first time. :)

Does anyone have any tips for finding some decent light armor sort of early on? I'm still stuck in the original wizard gear.

[Xydarc]

I messed around in 4-1 to pick up a Talisman and managed to get a Falchion +1 as well. I'm not too big on swords but this bad boy replenishes MP while holding it. I went a little further into the level and manged to get the Regen and Grave-Robber Ring before accidentally falling off a cliff. I lost my 7000 souls but I was deep in there and not sure I feel like dealing with the skeletons right now. I died a lot going through the first time. :)

Does anyone have any tips for finding some decent light armor sort of early on? I'm still stuck in the original wizard gear.
I the Tower of Latria, on the 4th floor, there is a corpse in an Iron Maiden that has the full set of Assassin Gear.

[Banacek]

Is the path to the Flamelurker brutal? I need to prepare myself mentally for this.

[rein]

I the Tower of Latria, on the 4th floor, there is a corpse in an Iron Maiden that has the full set of Assassin Gear.How many times will I die trying to get to it? I've died a lot this morning. I guess the plus side of making a run for it right now is I have no souls to lose. :)

[Gorvi]

Is the path to the Flamelurker brutal? I need to prepare myself mentally for this.
If you go the right way (left) it's not too bad, just don't do what I did and fall down the right path after the spider. :p The worst thing you come across are these damn beetles that take forever to kill, and you have to navigate a very claustrophobic tunnel that feels like an ant colony, it's very mazelike.

Seeing the problems everyone else is having with him, you may want to call phantoms. I took him on twice, once for me and once helping, with 3 people total each time, and it wasn't too bad. I couldn't imagine trying to take him solo.

[Mortis]

Is the path to the Flamelurker brutal? I need to prepare myself mentally for this.

There is a nice shortcut to him if you take the right tunnel at the start. When you get to the room with the big hole go right and smash the boxes, hop over to the wooden platform and then turn around and look down, you will see the next one you need to hop down to. You need to continue jumping down several wooden platforms into the big hole, you may die a couple times learning the route but it saves a ton of time. You can ignore the worms at the bottom as well and run to the tunnel in the back which will take you to the fog for the Flamelurker.

There is a lot of loot in 2-2 when you take the left tunnel route so don't forget to go that way at some point to collect.

[Xydarc]

How many times will I die trying to get to it? I've died a lot this morning. I guess the plus side of making a run for it right now is I have no souls to lose. :)
Watch out for Octopus-Tentacle guys. If you have a ranged attack, they are pretty easy. If not, well, rush and dodge.

[Xydarc]

I got really really lucky this weekend. The two black phantoms that guard the crystal lizard cave in 2-2 aggro'd me, and I made a run back to the elevator. I must have hit the crank at just the right moment, because halfway up, I hear to groans and suddenly I'm 3k souls richer. No more black phantoms, and sometimes there are lizards and sometimes there are not. I've only been able to snipe a few, because if I get too close, they run away, the lil bastards.

[Evil Avnovice]

Defeated Leechmonger yesterday. I decided to venture out beyond archstone room there to come across a big fat pit of poison. Makes a nice vacation spot!

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-11100528.jpg

So I'm making my way through, and I get to a part of that level where there are these slugs. I take them out with no trouble. Up ahead, I see a fog gate in the distance. No sooner than I approach it, two of the larger valley inhabitants come full charge at me and start flanking me. I double back and try to put some distance so I can single out one of them. We go toe to toe, but he had the advantage since the poison muck doesn't hinder their movement, and I die. I go back to try and retrieve my souls, but got caught a little ways, costing me 15,000 souls.

There goes my stat upgrade. :p

[Tayaya]

Is the path to the Flamelurker brutal? I need to prepare myself mentally for this.

I'll be throwin' down my blue soul marker in that are later, so if you send me a message on PSN I can come aid you with him. He's a BASTARD solo.

[Banacek]

If you go the right way (left) it's not too bad, just don't do what I did and fall down the right path after the spider. :p The worst thing you come across are these damn beetles that take forever to kill, and you have to navigate a very claustrophobic tunnel that feels like an ant colony, it's very mazelike.

Seeing the problems everyone else is having with him, you may want to call phantoms. I took him on twice, once for me and once helping, with 3 people total each time, and it wasn't too bad. I couldn't imagine trying to take him solo.

There is a nice shortcut to him if you take the right tunnel at the start. When you get to the room with the big hole go right and smash the boxes, hop over to the wooden platform and then turn around and look down, you will see the next one you need to hop down to. You need to continue jumping down several wooden platforms into the big hole, you may die a couple times learning the route but it saves a ton of time. You can ignore the worms at the bottom as well and run to the tunnel in the back which will take you to the fog for the Flamelurker.

There is a lot of loot in 2-2 when you take the left tunnel route so don't forget to go that way at some point to collect.

Ok, I'm going to try that tonight hopefully. I tried calling the blue phantoms twice now, but I got an error message. How do I drop a note to let someone call me if they want help?

[Xydarc]

Defeated Leechmonger yesterday. I decided to venture out beyond archstone room there to come across a big fat pit of poison. Makes a nice vacation spot!

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-11100528.jpg

So I'm making my way through, and I get to a part of that level where there are these slugs. I take them out with no trouble. Up ahead, I see a fog gate in the distance. No sooner than I approach it, two of the larger valley inhabitants come full charge at me and start flanking me. I double back and try to put some distance so I can single out one of them. We go toe to toe, but he had the advantage since the poison muck doesn't hinder their movement, and I die. I go back to try and retrieve my souls, but got caught a little ways, costing me 15,000 souls.

There goes my stat upgrade. :p
I love your updates, keep them coming. Thanks for the screenshots too.

[rein]

Watch out for Octopus-Tentacle guys. If you have a ranged attack, they are pretty easy. If not, well, rush and dodge.heh, yea, I found out the hard way. I made it to the assassin gear but the only thing that increased defense was the assassins mask. Everything else lowered defense in all categories and raised poison resistance (which comes in handy if you open the 3rd iron maiden :)).


...and I love having Evacuate now that I have a Talisman. One of my favorite new toys.

[Tayaya]

I love your updates, keep them coming. Thanks for the screenshots too.

I too enjoy reading Avnovice's Demon Soul's Journal. Now if only I can beat Flamelurker tonight.

To make yourself available to help someone, just go into your inventory and use your Blue Soul Stone - this will allow you to show up in the worlds of "living" players (not other souls). Basically you'll look like one of the red floor messages you see everywhere, but instead you'll be a bright blue message. If they happen across it and click on it, it'll bring up your online-mode stats (basically just how many times you've played online with someone else and a breakdown of your ratings by those players). You have no say over who summons you, any player is able to do so, and you can't refuse it (but you CAN use your white soul stone if you don't like helping them, which gets you back to your own game, but may cause them to rate you negatively).

[Gorvi]

...and I love having Evacuate now that I have a Talisman. One of my favorite new toys.
I really need to raise my Mind stat enough to use another Miracle, I'd love to have that, but I don't want to give up healing. :)

[Abyssion]

I'm pretty sure it works the same way. I was lining up to shoot with the bow to determine how many arrows I was going to need before deciding to try the Soul Arrow spell.

The way I did it is I lined up my shot from the third opening looking straight at the burned bodies on the bridge. You have to cast as soon as you see the dragon coming in to lead him into the shot. Don't lock on, you have to free cast. When you hit him you will be able to tell because he will have a small trail of smoke from the spell as he flies over. If you have access to the bow and lots of arrows I think it would be easier since sniper mode would rule. If you do decide to use spells, take some Old Spices to restore your magic when it runs out. Even with the MP regen ring it would take a while for it to refill. one more thing, casting caused my character to move backwards slightly after each cast. Be prepared to realign yourself a couple of times while taking him down.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try it out soon.

Has anyone called over any friends using the one gem? I could use some help with a thing or two, but I'd need some friends and to learn how the friend summoning works.

[Xydarc]

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try it out soon.

Has anyone called over any friends using the one gem? I could use some help with a thing or two, but I'd need some friends and to learn how the friend summoning works.
See Tayaya's post above. It'd be cool if you could summon specific friends.

Anyone know what my Magic level has to be before I can use Enchant Weapon? I was hoping I could use it at 10, but every time I try to cast, my toon does the "duh-hur" animation. And yes, I have the catalyst equipped and ready in my left hand and the spell memorized.

[Abyssion]

See Tayaya's post above. It'd be cool if you could summon specific friends.

Anyone know what my Magic level has to be before I can use Enchant Weapon? I was hoping I could use it at 10, but every time I try to cast, my toon does the "duh-hur" animation. And yes, I have the catalyst equipped and ready in my left hand and the spell memorized.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

This is gonna be a weird question but do you have enough MP for it?

[rein]

I really need to raise my Mind stat enough to use another Miracle, I'd love to have that, but I don't want to give up healing. :)I liked having the healing spell but if I get low and don't have herbs available I toss on the regen ring. It has a much faster rate than the MP regen ring and weapons. Still much slower than the heal spell but I'm not giving up Evacuate. ;)

I'm at a crossroads right now and need to start specializing my leveling. I've liked playing sort of a thief/royal hybrid but I'm starting to wonder if I wouldn't be better off focusing more on miracles instead of spells and getting some heavier armor. I'm only soul level 23 and it's taking more and more to bring down monsters because of the way the game scales.

My current stats:
vit/12
int/14
end/12
str/12
dex/14
mag/15
fth/12
lck/12

Where do I go from here? hmmm....

[Xydarc]

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

This is gonna be a weird question but do you have enough MP for it?
I double-checked, and Enchant Weapon only uses 20 MP. I've got 65. I also dropped 1k souls on Soul Arrow, and it works just fine.

[Camel]

I made a big WHOOPSIE yesterday. I finally beat the red eyes knight after 10 or so tries (now he is a piece of cake, and I enjoy killing him over and over), and then used my key to meet King Doran. He gave me a challenge to test my strength, but I was scared and ran away like the good Demon's Souls player I am. He apparently didn't like being snubbed, because now he is PISSED. I can't even come close to hitting him as he dodges everything, including arrows shot at him while he is not even facing me directly. I am thinking his sword is no longer obtainable for me, at least not at my current strength.

I was also feeling pretty cocky last night after beating Armor Spider and breezing through 2-1. I took the shortcut (inadvertently) to Flamelurker and got my ass handed to me. I messed around in 4-1 for a bit and got some new weapons, so now it's back to the lower levels I think. Are all of the levels similar in difficulty, or do they get harder as you go up (i.e. 2 is harder than 1, but not as hard as 3)?

This game has its hooks in me. I spent way too much time yesterday playing it and had to stay up late to finish some work for today.

[Banacek]

I liked having the healing spell but if I get low and don't have herbs available I toss on the regen ring. It has a much faster rate than the MP regen ring and weapons. Still much slower than the heal spell but I'm not giving up Evacuate. ;)

I'm at a crossroads right now and need to start specializing my leveling. I've liked playing sort of a thief/royal hybrid but I'm starting to wonder if I wouldn't be better off focusing more on miracles instead of spells and getting some heavier armor. I'm only soul level 23 and it's taking more and more to bring down monsters because of the way the game scales.

My current stats:
vit/12
int/14
end/12
str/12
dex/14
mag/15
fth/12
lck/12

Where do I go from here? hmmm....

Are you sure the game scales? I can run through 1-1 and 1-2 without breaking a sweat now.

[menage]

Just defeated the second red knight standing before the door in 4-2. One at a time is doable but 3 no way in hell.

Also went back to the machine on 3-1 and stopped it, collected all the goodies there. Totaly forgot for 20 hours±P

Didn´t have the strenght to carry on. Energy sapping game.

[Mortis]

I made a big WHOOPSIE yesterday. I finally beat the red eyes knight after 10 or so tries (now he is a piece of cake, and I enjoy killing him over and over), and then used my key to meet King Doran. He gave me a challenge to test my strength, but I was scared and ran away like the good Demon's Souls player I am. He apparently didn't like being snubbed, because now he is PISSED. I can't even come close to hitting him as he dodges everything, including arrows shot at him while he is not even facing me directly. I am thinking his sword is no longer obtainable for me, at least not at my current strength.

If you want to be cheap (like me) here is what you do. Go back and agro him, get him to chase you across the bridge and run back to the area where you killed the arrow and spear guy, keep running until you get to the stairs on the left where the shield/sword guy was standing. At this point Doran will stop chasing and walk back towards his room. Keep watching the bridge from your location until you see him walking across the bridge, when you see him on the bridge run full speed to him and backstab him. Rinse/repeat until he caves.

I tried fighting him legit but he manhandled me. :D

[Lutheran]

Wow just reading through some of the latest posts makes me want to play this game. Is it all just fighting, what other game would you compare it to?

[Camel]

Wow just reading through some of the latest posts makes me want to play this game. Is it all just fighting, what other game would you compare it to?
It's all fighting and exploring. The best part about the game is the satisfaction you feel when you finally overcome a difficult foe, as it really feels like an accomplishment. Unfortunately, I don't really know what to compare it to. The difficulty level makes it really feel like nothing else.

EDIT: On another note, I keep getting D's as ratings! I help people kill the spider by pumping it full of arrows, and then I get a D. BAH! I guess if I want higher grades I need to stand directly in front of the spider when it starts its flamethrower attack, like my summoners do.

[rein]

Are you sure the game scales? I can run through 1-1 and 1-2 without breaking a sweat now.I'm pretty sure it does. When I first started as a Royal I could one shot most of the trash mobs in 1-1 now it takes two on a lot of them.

[Camel]

If you want to be cheap (like me) here is what you do. Go back and agro him, get him to chase you across the bridge and run back to the area where you killed the arrow and spear guy, keep running until you get to the stairs on the left where the shield/sword guy was standing. At this point Doran will stop chasing and walk back towards his room. Keep watching the bridge from your location until you see him walking across the bridge, when you see him on the bridge run full speed to him and backstab him. Rinse/repeat until he caves.

I tried fighting him legit but he manhandled me. :D
Out of curiosity, how much were you hitting him for per backstab? This strategy will definitely work, but right now I'm only hitting him for 20 damage a pop. I think I'll come back later!

[Xydarc]

It's all fighting and exploring. The best part about the game is the satisfaction you feel when you finally overcome a difficult foe, as it really feels like an accomplishment. Unfortunately, I don't really know what to compare it to. The difficulty level makes it really feel like nothing else.

EDIT: On another note, I keep getting D's as ratings! I help people kill the spider by pumping it full of arrows, and then I get a D. BAH! I guess if I want higher grades I need to stand directly in front of the spider when it starts its flamethrower attack, like my summoners do.
The lowest I've gotten is a B for pumping him full of arrows. Why grade down for playing smart?

I'm pretty sure it does. When I first started as a Royal I could one shot most of the trash mobs in 1-1 now it takes two on a lot of them.
I'm not seeing this. After my first round of weapon and stat upgrades, I was one-shotting the trash Skaglings in 1-1 and 1-2. I can backstab 1-shot blue eye knights with my dragon long sword.:D I love the backstab animation with the sword, much more satisfying than the axe's animation.

[Xydarc]

If you want to be cheap (like me) here is what you do. Go back and agro him, get him to chase you across the bridge and run back to the area where you killed the arrow and spear guy, keep running until you get to the stairs on the left where the shield/sword guy was standing. At this point Doran will stop chasing and walk back towards his room. Keep watching the bridge from your location until you see him walking across the bridge, when you see him on the bridge run full speed to him and backstab him. Rinse/repeat until he caves.

I tried fighting him legit but he manhandled me. :D
Cheap = smart. The game is enough of a challenge without you making things tougher on yourself.

[Gorvi]

Wow just reading through some of the latest posts makes me want to play this game. Is it all just fighting, what other game would you compare it to?
Oblivion mixed with Zelda mixed with a large amount of King's Field. That's probably the closest I can come, but that's still off a bit.

[rein]

I'm not seeing this. After my first round of weapon and stat upgrades, I was one-shotting the trash Skaglings in 1-1 and 1-2. I can backstab 1-shot blue eye knights with my dragon long sword.:D I love the backstab animation with the sword, much more satisfying than the axe's animation.I've probably got something wrong with my stats then or maybe it's magic damage vs weapon. All I know is that some things I used to one shot with Soul Arrow now takes two. I really like backstabbing. I loved it with the rapier and dagger but getting used to the falchion.

[Gorvi]

I've probably got something wrong with my stats then or maybe it's magic damage vs weapon. All I know is that some things I used to one shot with Soul Arrow now takes two. I really like backstabbing. I loved it with the rapier and dagger but getting used to the falchion.
I'm not sure what it is, but Soul Arrow seems to do more damage for me when I'm in soul form. Not by too much, but enough that some enemies that I was one shotting needed to be hit again with a sword attack to take them down.

[Evil Avnovice]

Thanks Tayaya, Xydarc. I've been getting screenshot crazy for the past week. :o

[rein]

I'm not sure what it is, but Soul Arrow seems to do more damage for me when I'm in soul form. Not by too much, but enough that some enemies that I was one shotting needed to be hit again with a sword attack to take them down.I stay in soul form. I was only in human form once and died. It put me into soul form and I never went back to human. I think soul form allows you a little more sneaking and a little more damage. I don't have enough human form experience to compare.

[Evil Avnovice]

This morning, I resumed play by going back to Tower of Latria since I couldn't couldn't keep my eyes open last night.

I can now take out the octo-headed guards with sneak attacks or a couple of hits with a spear in the dual-handed grip. I managed to make it to Fool's Idol after shutting off that large iron-maiden type contraption. It took me at least a couple of attempts to kill her for good; I did see the messages. Namely, the one that said "Look above" kind of stumped me, so I'm looking around with my Long Bow/Telescope to see if there was something that I missed. Then I remembered that when I passed through the one gate where there were a set of spiral stairs that led to a Silver Catalyst, it clicked.

During my travels there, I scored a brand-spanking new set of Fluted Armor:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12102803.jpg

And a really cool Iron Maiden. Did I mention that it fires arrows?

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12100002.jpg

That's my new girlfriend. Don't mind us. Even though we were locked in mortal battle, we still had time for hide-and-seek. :p

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12102245.jpg

[Evil Avnovice]

After Fool's Idol, I decided to do some sightseeing. The backparts of Fool's Idol Archstone are just breathtaking.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12122306.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12122346.jpg

Now that is some delicious looking shrimp.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12122449.jpg

Ooooooh. Pretty lights!

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12113126.jpg

God knows I'm not trying to want to know what's inside. And I apologize for the shot. Both my character and that thing were moving, which is why it'll look a little blurred.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12120806.jpg

On a lighter note, I just love the decor. Anyone know where I can get some pulsating tongues and fire?

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12123736.jpg

[Tayaya]

See Tayaya's post above. It'd be cool if you could summon specific friends.

Anyone know what my Magic level has to be before I can use Enchant Weapon? I was hoping I could use it at 10, but every time I try to cast, my toon does the "duh-hur" animation. And yes, I have the catalyst equipped and ready in my left hand and the spell memorized.

And I am assuming you have a non-ranged weapon in your right hand, yes? It does cost a decent chunk of MP, though, so it IS possible you may be short.

[Grifter]

Enchant Weapon will also not work on weapons that are already enchanted like the Dragon Sword.

[Tayaya]

Sorry I've been absent all evening. Been sleeping almost non stop since I got home from work with a 100 plus fever, save for a tiny bit of Demon's Souls a little while ago. Still getting manhandled by flamelurker though I did get him down to 1/4 of his HP. Gave up after he killed me, and realized I was only soul level 21 so I boosted that up to 26 and invested some money in my weapons, since I have a huge collection of rocks to use.

Did all of 3-1 except for the boss, since in my haste I didn't grab any healing items when in the Nexus. I did have a little fun trying to see how far in the level I can get without ever healing, but of course dying only takes away some of that precious white tendency, so I quit farting around after a bit.

[Tayaya]

Enchant Weapon will also not work on weapons that are already enchanted like the Dragon Sword.

Derp. I forgot that he was using that weapon. Nice catch!

Also, the game doesn't really scale so much as just turn into a bastard for 1-3 and 1-4. The enemies, though visually the same as the 1-1 and 1-2 guys, are given a big power boost, knowing that players won't see them until beating at least one if not more than one of the other worlds.

Your subsequent playthroughs will indeed scale up, and they get REALLY hard.

[Grifter]

If it doesn't bog down the thread too much I'm curious to see what all your characters look like.

I will of course start and excuse the quality, iPhones aren't known for their quality picture taking abilities.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/grifter_66/IMG_0024.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j262/grifter_66/IMG_0025.jpg

These were taken on 4-1 which I think is my favorite level so far.

[Xydarc]

Enchant Weapon will also not work on weapons that are already enchanted like the Dragon Sword.
Ah, well. That makes sense.

[Xydarc]

Took down Flamelurker the 1st time with 2 others. There's no way I could have solo'd him. One of my partners was a magic user, and their magic really made a difference.

I died in the shrine of storms (4-1?) so went back to tackle Flamelurker again to regain my body. Took 3 dang tries.

[rein]

Don't I feel like a wuss? ...Armored Spider kicked my butt. Well, enough that I evacuated out to come back and try later.

Also, I can never seem to get one of the little shiny guys that runs away. I'm sure I am missing something important by missing them. :(

[Xydarc]

Hug the left side of that tunnel, move about 1/4 of the way in, and plink Armored Spider with Arrows and/or spells.

[Banacek]

Didn't get much time in tonight, but I did get to beat my first Red Knight. That felt very satisfying.

[Superman's Dead]

I read this thread just cause it sounds cool. I won't have a PS3 for a long time. That is all.

Good luck.

[menage]

I'm pretty sure it does. When I first started as a Royal I could one shot most of the trash mobs in 1-1 now it takes two on a lot of them.

Nevermind, need to read first.

[Evil Avnovice]

Shrine of Storms:

I revisited this area to try and see what's at the end of the first archstone room (still can't get the name right). I find out that the source of all those spirits is some grim reaper dude summoning these things left and right. And like any good action RPG, taking him out stops it altogether. After that bit, I'm traveling along more cliffsides peppered with some skeleton warriors, including the gold-armored variety.

Note: I didn't really want to take that second pic since those manta ray-like creatures don't fuck around when it comes to keeping you on your toes.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12181510.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12181951.jpg

I die quite a bit, often going back for my souls, but I finally make it to an area with some slugs and will-o-wisp creatures that explode when approached too closely.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12175418.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12183735.jpg

After clearing that, I run into the new boss, Old Hero. I managed to snap this one, since he's blind, but still wasn't looking to engage him and lose my souls. And the best thing about this archstone room is that with a Ring of Avarice that I picked up, I can rake up anywhere from 30,000-50,000 souls.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12193807.jpg

Note to self: Slugs glow pretty bright when they're dead.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12183607.jpg

[Evil Avnovice]

Valley of Defilement:

I was having problems before traversing the area beyond Leechmonger's archstone, but since I wasn't making any headway with Maneater(s), I decided to come back here and see if I can't brave the poison muck. I make it right to where I die with that small mob where they have a larger inhabitant as a bodyguard. I die a couple of times but manage to deal with them and press on. Along the way, I snipe the occasional mosquito and some inhabitants that try to ambush me from a nearby hole in the wall above me.

I come across a gate and I scout ahead with my telescope. There are two large inhabitants standing there, so I single them out and take them one by one. I saw a third one, but it turned out to be some little guy with a poison spell. Eh. I come across a gate and figure it has to be a boss fight, since I already suffered trudging through miles of poison muck.

Instead, I find myself in a ramshackle little village.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12214241.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12220600.jpg

Like the lower levels of Stonefang Tunnel, it's pretty claustrophobic since the camera doesn't do well in narrow or enclosed spaces, and I'm tense because I expect the large inhabitants to ambush me when I least expect it and lose all that progress I made, along with any souls I've collected.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12220854.jpg

I hit another gate, and meet Dirty Colossus.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12221852.jpg

Other than catching a temporary case of plague, he goes down and I get my reward, and an area that looks to lead further down.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-12222926.jpg

[Camel]

Don't I feel like a wuss? ...Armored Spider kicked my butt. Well, enough that I evacuated out to come back and try later.

Also, I can never seem to get one of the little shiny guys that runs away. I'm sure I am missing something important by missing them. :(
If you don't want to take the arrow-shooting route, just run up to him as fast as you can with your shield out (being careful to avoid webbing and fireballs). He will try to hit you about two times with his legs before collapsing, after which you can smack him in the face. From what I have seen, you can repeat this about twice before he starts glowing and is going to start his flamethrower attack. At this point, just run full speed back to the little indent in the wall (it will be on your right as you run back, almost to where you came in through the fog). Repeat as necessary.

Once you get the pattern down, he is cake. I go back to help someone else kill Armor Spider every time I want a full health bar.

[Uno Ill Nino]

I fought Armor Spider last night. Killed him on my first try! I recruited a blue phantom though. :) He sat at the end of the hall throwing soul arrows while I ran right up to the bastard and hacked away and his front left leg. I was really surprised at how much damage I was doing! I thought it would be a long arduous fight, but it was over pretty quickly compared to the Tower Knight and Phalanx battles. I was so satisfied with how everything went, I was smiling ear to ear. Not everyday that a game does that for me!

Also, I know its not for everyone, but I'm totally listening to Symphony X when I play this game and it fucking WORKS. This song started up as I was running up the long drag just before the fog leading to the spider battle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KKFoEI0kss

Tell me that this isn't the perfect soundtrack for this game! Then later, in the prison level, I was listening to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-mr9TAKMzU

I like the moody, eerie silence of the game usually, but somehow it just all clicked last night with this soundtrack and I think I'm going to start doing this more often. :D

Oh yeah, and I killed the Red Dragon in 1-2 last night as well. You know you get like 18,000 souls for that? Can I get a hell yeah?

[Uno Ill Nino]

Oh, couple of other things I forgot:

How do I cast miracles? I have a silver catalyst and have been using water veil (great against armor spider) and flame toss, but I can't figure out how to cast my "heal" miracle. Do I need another weapon other than the catalyst?

I also forgot to mention that in the Armor Spider battle, I sat parked in front of my partner with my shield up. That protected both of us while he cast soul arrow repeatedly. Eventually I wanted to get in there and mix it up and once I did, it went down like a sack of flour falling off a truck! Though I think water veil really worked well to protect both of us when we couldn't help but get hit with fire.

[Xydarc]

Oh, couple of other things I forgot:

How do I cast miracles? I have a silver catalyst and have been using water veil (great against armor spider) and flame toss, but I can't figure out how to cast my "heal" miracle. Do I need another weapon other than the catalyst?

You have to have a talisman equipped and a miracle memorized. I found my first talisman in 4-1 (Shrine of Storms), the Talisman of God.

I think I have all the parts necessary to craft the Lava Bow, but Ed won't make it. I have the Hard Demon and Red Hot Demon's souls and a +7 bow. Ed still won't make it, what gives?

[menage]

You have to have a talisman equipped and a miracle memorized. I found my first talisman in 4-1 (Shrine of Storms), the Talisman of God.

I think I have all the parts necessary to craft the Lava Bow, but Ed won't make it. I have the Hard Demon and Red Hot Demon's souls and a +7 bow. Ed still won't make it, what gives?

Maybe you need another level bow? Don't know, the weapon system is even vaguer than the rest of the game:P

[Spigot]

I like the skeletons when you first enter the Shrine Of Storms. Talk about a pile o' souls per kill.

Here's my question: Can I only get my body back if I become a phantom and help someone else out? I haven't had much luck with this yet and the one time someone did summon me, they left the session before we even got started.

[Gorvi]

I like the skeletons when you first enter the Shrine Of Storms. Talk about a pile o' souls per kill.

Here's my question: Can I only get my body back if I become a phantom and help someone else out? I haven't had much luck with this yet and the one time someone did summon me, they left the session before we even got started.
You can get your body back one of three ways:
Kill a boss
Help another player kill a boss
Invade another player's game and kill them
Helping another player kill a boss is by far the easiest way to get your body back, just set your marker down in front of a boss room that's about the right level (since they'll only see it if they're near your soul level I think) and help someone out. If you happen to die in the boss fight, you don't lose anything, the only possible negative is that they could give you a low rating.

That being said, if you can somehow make it to the boss of 4-1 he's incredibly easy. Getting there is harder than killing him by far.

[Xydarc]

I like the skeletons when you first enter the Shrine Of Storms. Talk about a pile o' souls per kill.

Here's my question: Can I only get my body back if I become a phantom and help someone else out? I haven't had much luck with this yet and the one time someone did summon me, they left the session before we even got started.
Use a Stone of Ephemeral Eyes. That will get you your body back.

The Shrine of Storms is a cool area so far, but damn did that first skelly freak me out when he did the forward dodge roll all the way to me and then combo'd to a shieldbreaker move.

[Gorvi]

Use a Stone of Ephemeral Eyes. That will get you your body back.

The Shrine of Storms is a cool area so far, but damn did that first skelly freak me out when he did the forward dodge roll all the way to me and then combo'd to a shieldbreaker move.
Bah, I forgot the Stone method as well. Those are limited, though not too much. I think Tayaya said something about finding 20 on one playthrough or something.

Those skeletons in 4-1 are my practice mobs to fight against to get better at dodging and parrying. :)

[Spigot]

Yeah, I don't want to use my stones as I figure there are only a few of them in the game.

Does having my body back really help? I have the Cling Ring, so that pretty much negates the HP drop...

[Gorvi]

Yeah, I don't want to use my stones as I figure there are only a few of them in the game.

Does having my body back really help? I have the Cling Ring, so that pretty much negates the HP drop...
Having your body allows you to call other players into your game to help you out, which can make a huge difference in boss fights. Also, you can be invaded by other players looking to steal your life, so there's that bit of added excitement. :)

[Evil Avnovice]

I was gonna hit the sack last night, but stayed up until 2:00-2:30am to check out the newest area beyond Dirty Colossus' archstone. I ran into a new boss which to my delight, turned out to be an archdemon! I was expecting a handful; there were natives all over the place, chanting and throwing their arms in the air, but my only threat was some guy she sent out to block my progress. He was dispatched, since he always stood his ground, only moving to attack me with his hammer. After he was out of the picture, she pretty much gave it up.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13010340.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13011750.jpg

Now I can finally open the door at Tower Knight's archstone. :D

[Evil Avnovice]

At Tower Knight's archstone. I run into the fat guy that sicced all those archers on me earlier when I took on Tower Knight, and leads me on a chase through the city streets of Boletaria. From jump, enemies are real tough, and I have to contend with assassins. As I inch closer and closer to the end of this area, I see a mini army, deployed just for lil' old me. Unlucky for them, I managed to pick off a few of them by sniping a couple of them from the rooftops.

I make my way to ground level and pick the rest of them off. Herbs staved off a few near deaths, and the three red knights there I made mincemeat off as I singled the off one by one. Just look the carnage!

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13021258.jpg

And I finally made it to Penetrator. I cast evacuate so I wouldn't lose my souls.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13021442.jpg

And last, I defeated Old Hero at Shrine of Storms. I've yet to explore the new area there.

[danhoo]

This game is awesome, and Avnovice's "Boletaria Travel Log" makes it even better.

[Gorvi]

This game is awesome, and Avnovice's "Boletaria Travel Log" makes it even better.
That it does, and damn is he ever flying through it. And I thought I had been playing the game a lot. :p

[Tayaya]

Yeah, I don't want to use my stones as I figure there are only a few of them in the game.

Does having my body back really help? I have the Cling Ring, so that pretty much negates the HP drop...

Also not mentioned... having your body according to some reports makes the bosses a little more aggressive, but also gives you a bigger White Tendency boost for killing them.

I used a Stone to get my body back today, in front of Flamelurker, only to find that NO ONE had markers down, so I had to try and solo him again with only 10 Crescent Moon Grass and 2 Full Moon Grass in my inventory. Somehow I pulled it off. I did chicken out and use the rib cage when he was about 5 hits away from dying, only because he got really cheap and almost killed me once while I was stuck on part of the environment. It was a good battle, and I'm glad I won it. Did 3-1 also, and beat Fool's Idol, only to slip and fall to my death before touching the Archstone and getting her soul, which means I have to do all of 3-1 again. Not a big deal, but annoying.

So proud of you guys, turning this thread into what it's become... real sense of community here with everyone helping one another, and so much pride in everyone's slivers of progress. Really does speak a lot about the uniquely challenging atmosphere of Demon's Souls, and how just making it through the game can be a superbly rewarding experience!

[Tayaya]

If it doesn't bog down the thread too much I'm curious to see what all your characters look like.


More beautiful iPhone quality imagery here.

Akko, my first US version character.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2617/4009082709_c5023e93ff_b.jpg

[Xydarc]

Having your body allows you to call other players into your game to help you out, which can make a huge difference in boss fights. Also, you can be invaded by other players looking to steal your life, so there's that bit of added excitement. :)
Speaking of which, I beat my first invading black phantom! Havelife decided to invade me while I was in 4-1. It was a short battle after he switched to a two-hand stance with his sword. A couple well-time block-and-strikes with my +5 Dragon Long Sword and victory was mine!:D

This game is awesome, and Avnovice's "Boletaria Travel Log" makes it even better.
How awesome is his travelogue? So awesome.


So proud of you guys, turning this thread into what it's become... real sense of community here with everyone helping one another, and so much pride in everyone's slivers of progress. Really does speak a lot about the uniquely challenging atmosphere of Demon's Souls, and how just making it through the game can be a superbly rewarding experience!
Completely agree. There's just something about this game that makes sharing a big part of the fun.

[Evil Avnovice]

I revisited Shrine of Storms to see what was beyond the gate in Old Hero's archstone. I ran straight into another boss encounter with Storm King:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13103118.jpg

I managed to nab some stray items, and ultimately "Storm Ruler", the only weapon that could defeat this boss. I was killed trying to make my way back to safety at the blocked exit. I haven't bothered with trying to restore the sword yet, but it looks pretty cool.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13103957.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13104133.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13104102.jpg

After that, I went back to Boletaria Palace to try my hand with Penetrator. Personally, I was disappointed. I was ready to take him solo, but I didn't realize that the guy I freed from his cell over at Tower Knight archstone would assist me. Kind of took the fun out of challenging Penetrator all by my lonesome.

Maybe next time. :(

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13211041.jpg

By the way, do you like my new shield? I pried it from Tower Knight's cold, dead fingers:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13215727.jpg

[Kelegacy]

I didn't realize you could put facial hair on your characters. Grifter has a goatee. I was looking for that option but must have overlooked it.

My guy doesn't look ugly at all, but I gave him longer gray hair for some odd reason. I wish I could alter his appearance in-game. I wanted a bald dude.

Ah well. At least my guy LOOKS like a hunter/ranger.

[Evil Avnovice]

After more failures, I've finally managed to defeat Flamelurker. :D

Learning his attacks were easy enough; surviving was something entirely different. I began by keeping a nice medium/close range between us, but not give him so much space so he can leap towards and strike me for a guaranteed hit. Up close, Flamelurker attacks with a swipe or an exploding punch. I've been able to dodge both with perfect timing, making sure I balance out my stamina and not leave myself unable to dodge or raise my shield in defense. I exploit Flamelurker by 1. baiting him so he can swipe at me, and when he whiffs, I can get in 1-2 free hits before backing off as he'll attempt an 2. exploding punch which I can simply dodge a split second before the impact, or back away and simply run towards him and get 1 (or 2 if I'm really lucky) hits before backing away and keeping my distance from him.

As I lower his HP further, the flames around him burn more intensly, and he goes all out, resorting to leaping attacks and exploding punches. After scoring the last hit, his soul is mine.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13233802.jpg

After repairing my armor/weapons, and leveling a stat, I go back to Flamelurker's archstone and run into Dragon God. And yes, he's that large. :eek:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-13235702.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-14000114.jpg

[Spigot]

Holy hell, that's a BIIIIIIG dragon!

[BLeeP]

My copy of the game finally came in and I spent all night playing it. I think I'm finally getting the hang of things and I beat the first big demon (Phalanx, nabbed me a trophy!). It was crazy how many times I died going through this first part of the first stage, but it was a great deal of fun. Also, it helps that this is quite a bit like a third person King's Field which is what I was hoping for. Too bad I have to sleep or I would play quite a bit more!

[Kelegacy]

I won't get to play again until this weekend unfortunately. I died on the Tower Knight the first time I attempted him. Couldn't seem to get behind him before he stuck me good. I'll have better luck next time I think. ;)

Though the two blue knights and archers waiting for me on the other side of the bridge give me a workout even before I get to him! I can handle blue-eyed knights, but two in succession, while I'm avoiding archers from above and in front of me, on a narrow wall with a dragon at my heels, makes for a bit of stress. Fun fun!!

The wolves under the bridge gave me a surprise, however. Didn't see them in the darkness.

[Tayaya]

By the way, for those interested in the Lava Bow (the bow pictured in my screenshot and one of the highest-damage bows in the game), you need to first give Flamelurker the Red Hot Demon's Soul you get from Flamelurker to Blacksmith Ed to unlock his ability to fuse Demon's Souls into your weapons. THEN you need to upgrade your bow, usually the Compound Short Bow for most of us, to +7, which requires loads of Hardstone. Once you have a +7 bow, you can have Ed forge it into the Lava Bow, using the Hard Demon's Soul you get from Armor Spider.

As you approach the end of the game, try to use as many of your Demon's Souls on spells and weapons as you can, even if you're buying things you don't necessarily want to use. Those seeking the Platinum trophy for this game need to keep in mind that it requires a minimum of 4 playthroughs on one character, as one of the Demon's Souls can be used to unlock 4 unique items/spells, but you can only get one per game.

Also, after you beat 1-4, you can no longer spend souls to level up, so be sure to handle all of your upgrades before moving on to finish Boletarian Palace.

[Uno Ill Nino]

Killed Flamelurker AND Adjucator last night. Hella fun! I'm finding that my chick is actually quite a bit stronger than I always expect her to be. For example, I kept hearing about the badass skeletons in Shrine of Storms, but they go down in about 3 hits from my Longsword +6, and only a couple of their hardest swings can break my stance with the shield up (using purple flame shield).

Its so much goddamn fun playing this game. I love summoning blue phantoms to come take on the bosses with me. Not only do I learn from watching them, but it makes the entire effort feel more epic. I had 2 blues with me against Flamelurker, and only one survived long enough to see me land the killing blow. Its really a neat feeling to let them come in, show me how they would do things, and then surprise them by being stronger than I think they expect me to be. I'd imagine they expect to get summoned by people who are helpless or something and its cool to show them I'm not. I also like bowing to them when they arrive. :D

[menage]

By the way, for those interested in the Lava Bow (the bow pictured in my screenshot and one of the highest-damage bows in the game), you need to first give Flamelurker the Red Hot Demon's Soul you get from Flamelurker to Blacksmith Ed to unlock his ability to fuse Demon's Souls into your weapons. THEN you need to upgrade your bow, usually the Compound Short Bow for most of us, to +7, which requires loads of Hardstone. Once you have a +7 bow, you can have Ed forge it into the Lava Bow, using the Hard Demon's Soul you get from Armor Spider.

As you approach the end of the game, try to use as many of your Demon's Souls on spells and weapons as you can, even if you're buying things you don't necessarily want to use. Those seeking the Platinum trophy for this game need to keep in mind that it requires a minimum of 4 playthroughs on one character, as one of the Demon's Souls can be used to unlock 4 unique items/spells, but you can only get one per game.

Also, after you beat 1-4, you can no longer spend souls to level up, so be sure to handle all of your upgrades before moving on to finish Boletarian Palace.

Ugh, 4 playthroughs with one chara seems a bit excessive. I'd rather try out the different classes instead. Screw that Trophy then.

[Gorvi]

Ugh, 4 playthroughs with one chara seems a bit excessive. I'd rather try out the different classes instead. Screw that Trophy then.
Remember, your "class" just determines your starting stats, you progress your character however you like.

[Tayaya]

Ugh, 4 playthroughs with one chara seems a bit excessive. I'd rather try out the different classes instead. Screw that Trophy then.

Yeah, like Gorvi said you can always tweak your stats to make your character whatever "class" you want them to be. Really after 2 plays you should be a strong melee character with a nice arsenal of spells at your disposal, as you work your way towards getting all of your stats to 99.... which would take an obscene amount of time, but is possible.

I stand corrected, though - there are TWO souls that have 4 uses:

Yellow Demon's Soul

* Boss 3-3: Old Monk
* Weapon
o 2-1 Blacksmith Ed - Insanity Catalyst
+ May be upgraded from any of:
# Wooden Catalyst
# Silver Catalyst
* Magic
o Freke - Moving Soul Arrow
o Yuria - Thirst
* Miracle
o Urbain - Banish
* Can be consumed for 26,400 soul points

AND

Pureblood Demon's Soul

* Boss 5-3: Maiden Astraea
* Weapon
o 2-1 Blacksmith Ed - Blueblood Sword
+ May be upgraded from
# Broken Sword +0
* Magic
o Freke - Death Cloud
o Yuria - Relief
* Miracle
o Urbain - Resurrection

But according to the original wiki 4 playthroughs are not needed, you could do 3 full playthroughs, and then as long as you got all the other things you needed, just world 3 and world 5 on your 4th.

I may actually go for it and try this out, since I'm having a blast this time around.... the Pure White and Pure Black stuff though... that's so hard!

[Xydarc]

By the way, for those interested in the Lava Bow (the bow pictured in my screenshot and one of the highest-damage bows in the game), you need to first give Flamelurker the Red Hot Demon's Soul you get from Flamelurker to Blacksmith Ed to unlock his ability to fuse Demon's Souls into your weapons. THEN you need to upgrade your bow, usually the Compound Short Bow for most of us, to +7, which requires loads of Hardstone. Once you have a +7 bow, you can have Ed forge it into the Lava Bow, using the Hard Demon's Soul you get from Armor Spider.

I have all 3 of those things, but Ed won't take the Red Hot soul from me.:confused: I really really really want a Lava Bow.:(

I took down Adjudicator last night. He's as easy as Armor Spider. I stayed on the ledge just above his head, dodged his tongue, and used my bow to plink at the bird on his head.

[Tayaya]

I have all 3 of those things, but Ed won't take the Red Hot soul from me.:confused: I really really really want a Lava Bow.:(

I took down Adjudicator last night. He's as easy as Armor Spider. I stayed on the ledge just above his head, dodged his tongue, and used my bow to plink at the bird on his head.

Talk to Ed a bunch using the "talk" command, and eventually he'll talk about needing to make the fire hotter and needing a special soul. Exit the menu at that time (as soon as you get repeat dialog from him). Talk to him again and he should ask for the soul. Make sure you have it in your inventory.

[Xydarc]

Talk to Ed a bunch using the "talk" command, and eventually he'll talk about needing to make the fire hotter and needing a special soul. Exit the menu at that time (as soon as you get repeat dialog from him). Talk to him again and he should ask for the soul. Make sure you have it in your inventory.
The Lava Bow is mine! Mwa hahahaha! Thanks Tayaya.

I also found the Regenerator's Ring as well. I'm not sure if I want to push on through the Shrine or head back to the Tower...

[menage]

Remember, your "class" just determines your starting stats, you progress your character however you like.

Shit, that is new to me. So basically I could have started with the easiest class to start with instead of my stupid soldier:D

[Gorvi]

Shit, that is new to me. So basically I could have started with the easiest class to start with instead of my stupid soldier:D
Pretty much, yeah. ;) :p

[menage]

Pretty much, yeah. ;) :p

Lemme guess. It's in the manual

[Gorvi]

Lemme guess. It's in the manual
Hmmm. I don't know, I just remember reading that in a lot of places before starting the game. It might be in the manual, though.

[Xydarc]

Lemme guess. It's in the manual
There's an official and unofficial wiki that are great sources of info. Plus, this thread is chock full of DS information, too.:) I think this thread is the single reason my post count is nearing 1,500.

[Tayaya]

Shit, that is new to me. So basically I could have started with the easiest class to start with instead of my stupid soldier:D

My character from the import version was a Soldier initially. The only problem with the Soldier is that it doesn't excel in any area at the start of the game. It's a very ho-hum class with ho-hum equipment.

The Knight and Temple Knight seem to get nice stuff at the beginning of the game, and everyone seems to love the Royalty default build, though I've never tried it. They do say it's one of the best, though.

[BLeeP]

I rolled a thief and sort of regret it, but oh well 8-P.

[Xydarc]

I'm loving my Hunter, but next play through, I definitely wanna try Royalty.

[Kelegacy]

Yeah hunter here but want to try something with more magic next time. I think it will take me a LONG time to get magic at this rate.

[Xydarc]

I have two magic spells with my Hunter: Soul Arrow and Enchant Weapon. I haven't used EW yet because my Dragon Long Sword already has an extra fire attack. Soul Arrow has come in handy for the gold skellys in Shrine of Storms. I haven't used any miracles yet.

Does anyone know how to get the item on the stalagmite in 4-2 at the bottom of Hyena's trap?

[Uno Ill Nino]

My char is a Knight, and the only spells I've needed are water veil, flame toss, and "heal" miracle. I use the bow and flame toss for ranged attacks and instead of enchant weapon, I go for turpentine on the blade.

[Camel]

I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do next. I am at Soul Level 30, and it would appear that Flamelurker is the next boss I need to beat, although he is kicking the crap out of me whenever I fight him. I tried the prison tower but wasn't particularly feeling confident in my ability to clear it, and 4-1 seems very uneven in its difficulty. I can handle some of the enemies with ease, but others beat me down in seconds.

Does it matter what order you go through the levels in? Is level 4 harder than level 3, which is harder than level 2? I asked this earlier but missed the response if anyone answered.

EDIT: I really think my problem is that I'm trying to do and see too much at once. I need to go chip away at Flamelurker until I beat him instead of checking out all the other levels.

SUPER DOUBLE EDIT: Another source of my frustration is that I missed getting the Cling Ring. I don't think I can just go back and find it, can I? As a result, I always end up helping someone kill the Armor Spider to get my health back before I can press on in new levels, and that gets old after a while.

[Stoke]

I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do next. I am at Soul Level 30, and it would appear that Flamelurker is the next boss I need to beat, although he is kicking the crap out of me whenever I fight him. I tried the prison tower but wasn't particularly feeling confident in my ability to clear it, and 4-1 seems very uneven in its difficulty. I can handle some of the enemies with ease, but others beat me down in seconds.

Does it matter what order you go through the levels in? Is level 4 harder than level 3, which is harder than level 2? I asked this earlier but missed the response if anyone answered.

EDIT: I really think my problem is that I'm trying to do and see too much at once. I need to go chip away at Flamelurker until I beat him instead of checking out all the other levels.

SUPER DOUBLE EDIT: Another source of my frustration is that I missed getting the Cling Ring. I don't think I can just go back and find it, can I? As a result, I always end up helping someone kill the Armor Spider to get my health back before I can press on in new levels, and that gets old after a while.

I don't see why you couldn't go back and get it, set items like that have never disappeared on me before. Since you've beaten Phalanx all you need to do it go to his stone, turn around and run back toward the 1-1 area. when you get to the dreglings take a right and the ring should be next to the grate you opened at the top of those stairs. Alternatively, start at the 1-1 stone and it's on your left right before you go to Phalanx's room.

EDIT: Also, you've been playing at 50% health most of the time? You're officially hardcore.

[Camel]

I don't see why you couldn't go back and get it, set items like that have never disappeared on me before. Since you've beaten Phalanx all you need to do it go to his stone, turn around and run back toward the 1-1 area. when you get to the dreglings take a right and the ring should be next to the grate you opened at the top of those stairs. Alternatively, start at the 1-1 stone and it's on your left right before you go to Phalanx's room.
Hmm, I'll have to go back and check. I don't remember seeing any glimmering treasure or anything like that, but I certainly wouldn't rule out just having missed something.

Thanks for the directions. I really didn't know where to go, only that I had missed a pretty important item.

[Spigot]

Hats off to Camel for not finding the Cling Ring. I'm impressed!

[bstiff]

how does the black phantom invasion thing work? Do you have to be in a world with black tendency for it to work? When I try to use it, the use bar is kind of greyed out and I dont get anything with it.

[BLeeP]

Hats off to Camel for not finding the Cling Ring. I'm impressed!

I love the backhanded-ness of this. Anyway, I'm off to play some more.

[Grifter]

My game was invaded for the first time this afternoon and I proceeded to kick the living crap out of the guy. I didn't even realize I was fighting another player until he was almost dead.

[Evil Avnovice]

Spent the past day and a half grinding to boost some stats and work towards wielding some new weapons. Am sorely tempted to go to Dragon God and mess with that, or head to Penetrator Archstone and explore the new area there.

[Camel]

Hats off to Camel for not finding the Cling Ring. I'm impressed!
PFFFFF! It's not like you ever HAVE to go to the bottom of those stairs to pull the lever that opens the gate to the ring.

[Spigot]

I meant impressed in that I just couldn't fathom not having the Cling Ring. It really helps offset a lot of the penalties that you incur by dying. That you don't have it and made it as far as you have is impressive (seriously!)

[LeRolls]

So is this game really as hard as the reviewers say it is?

[BLeeP]

I meant impressed in that I just couldn't fathom not having the Cling Ring. It really helps offset a lot of the penalties that you incur by dying. That you don't have it and made it as far as you have is impressive (seriously!)

Also worth noting is that a lot of people feel that it's better to play the game in spirit form anyway, making the Cling Ring doubly important.

[Spigot]

So is this game really as hard as the reviewers say it is?It is... but in a good way. It's tough but fair. You'll die a LOT but the penalties for dying aren't as bad as they could be. You just have to play smarter and learn the levels.

[Uno Ill Nino]

Camel, just take your time and explore the areas in whichever order you like. That's what I'm doing and its working out for me. I started with Phalanx and Tower Knight like everyone else, but Tower Knight was such a bitch that I started to wander around. Before I knew it, I had reached other bosses before I'd even taken down Tower Knight. I actually killed the 4-1 boss two nights ago before killing the 3-1 boss last night.

Also, I play the game in human form about 80% of the time. I use those stone of epheremal eyes (sp?) when I die and revive right away. I have the cling ring, but my health is still like 35 to 40% larger when I'm in human form anyway, so I see no real benefit to staying in soul form. Plus, when you're a human you can summon other players for help which I did for a lot of the bosses. I found I didn't always need their help, but if nothing else, its nice to have them there to hold the boss' attention away from you for a second. You can use that time to heal, reposition, etc. Plus, you can learn from your partners in some ways. I've had them lead me to secret areas and show me battle tactics.

Anyway, just take your time with the game and don't be in a hurry to beat it. I'm going slow and steady and its working out great for me. Exploring every inch ensures I don't miss any items and in a game like this, having as many items as you can is pretty critical to your success. Good luck!

**Edit**

Also, I killed Fool's Idol last night. Took me two battles before I remembered the old bastard upstairs that I spared after he begged me for his life. lol I love this game.

[Tayaya]

Didn't topple any bosses last night, but still made lots of progress. I did try Maneater once but got my ass handed to him, as I expected, as I went in without Warding, which is a blessing against him.

I did manage to find the full set of Brushwood Armor (the stuff that sleepy ol' Biorr wears), and killer Yurt for his Gloom Armor. Also picked up the Ring of Avarice, Gold Mask, and Epee Raiper, in addition to a bunch of other unique weapons and trinkets. I'm going to hold off on the Tower of Latria boss until I'm a little stronger.

However, my favorite thing of the night was making the Scraping Spear. Upgrade a winged spear (or other spear, probably) to +7, then cash in the Lead Demon's soul to Ed for this bad boy. It does less damage than the spear you're losing, so it's not a great single player weapon.... BUT.... it completely breaks most armor in just a few hits (like 3-4 hits), making it a bad day for any dickhead that busts into your game, as any souls he gets from you will be spent on very expensive armor repairs.

Going to do all of the Shrine of Storms today, and work on the Valley of Defilement after that (but not today). Will save the rest of world 3 for later! If anyone needs help with any bosses, though, don't hesitate to ask!

Also, for those of you that let Yurt out of his cage.... if you haven't killed him off yet, DO IT. He can and will eventually start killing everyone in the nexus besides the Candle Maiden, which can make the game hellishly difficult!

[Xydarc]

I finished the Shrine of Storms last night. Old Hero wasn't bad, but he does test your discipline and finesse with the DS3 controller. Man it was tough not to run when he come walking over to where you're standing and starts swinging blindly. He did hit me twice, but I was able to survive, heal, and keep plinking him with my lava bow.

The grim reapers and their summons were a pain in 4-3, but I made my way through and took on Storm King. Thanks to the burned out house's walls and the lava bow, I took him down without the Storm Ruler sword. My first Archdemon taken down!

I'd still like to know how to get the item on the stalagmite in the pit where you first meet St. Urbain.

[Tayaya]

I finished the Shrine of Storms last night. Old Hero wasn't bad, but he does test your discipline and finesse with the DS3 controller. Man it was tough not to run when he come walking over to where you're standing and starts swinging blindly. He did hit me twice, but I was able to survive, heal, and keep plinking him with my lava bow.

The grim reapers and their summons were a pain in 4-3, but I made my way through and took on Storm King. Thanks to the burned out house's walls and the lava bow, I took him down without the Storm Ruler sword. My first Archdemon taken down!

I'd still like to know how to get the item on the stalagmite in the pit where you first meet St. Urbain.

Storm King without Stormruler? Wow man. Props to you!

[Xydarc]

I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do next. I am at Soul Level 30, and it would appear that Flamelurker is the next boss I need to beat, although he is kicking the crap out of me whenever I fight him. I tried the prison tower but wasn't particularly feeling confident in my ability to clear it, and 4-1 seems very uneven in its difficulty. I can handle some of the enemies with ease, but others beat me down in seconds.

Does it matter what order you go through the levels in? Is level 4 harder than level 3, which is harder than level 2? I asked this earlier but missed the response if anyone answered.

Once you beat Phalanx, you can pretty much go wherever you want. I just cleared all of the Shrine of Storms (Area 4), almost all of Stonefang (2), but I've only touched the Tower of Latria, and I haven't even tried the Valley of Defilement yet. Really, it's all of up to you and what you think you can handle.

edit: If you have a weapon with the word "dragon" in front of it, or if you have lots of turpentine, I'd work my way through 4-1. Silver skeletons fall easily to fire attacks. Also, soul arrow works well against them. It's also not a bad place to farm souls.

[Pinchy]

I'd still like to know how to get the item on the stalagmite in the pit where you first meet St. Urbain.

If I'm remembering correctly, I believe you need White World tendency on that level to get to that sword. I've never done it myself, but you'll see a lot of that in just about every level - a lot of places that need a specific World tendency to get to.

[Xydarc]

If I'm remembering correctly, I believe you need White World tendency on that level to get to that sword. I've never done it myself, but you'll see a lot of that in just about every level - a lot of places that need a specific World tendency to get to.
Ah, I see. I'm glad that's the reason. I spent 15 minutes last night trying to land on top of that stupid stalagmite. The loot whore in me hates to see an item left behind.;)

[Mortis]

Haven't played since I got Brutal Legend and UC2 but I did get to use my meat cleaver before I stopped playing. I was hitting the skeletons in 4-1 for 80-180 with my spear, I hit one for 555 with the cleaver! It's awesome looking as well. I will be jumping back in this weekend, hope I don't get too rusty.

[Camel]

Haven't played since I got Brutal Legend and UC2 but I did get to use my meat cleaver before I stopped playing. I was hitting the skeletons in 4-1 for 80-180 with my spear, I hit one for 555 with the cleaver! It's awesome looking as well. I will be jumping back in this weekend, hope I don't get too rusty.
Just got that cleaver today! I stayed home from work since I wasn't feeling too hot, and managed to take out Flamelurker by my lonesome (on only the second try...magic worked much better than arrows), Abjudicator (friendly blue phantom showed me exactly where to hit him...what an easy fight!), and the lady in 3-1. False Idol, maybe? Something like that.

4-2 is a GREAT place to farm. All I do is kill the reaper with two arrows, then kill the super black skeleton samurai behind the hidden door. Gets me about 6-7k souls in a few minutes, then I run out and come right back in and do it again.

EDIT: Also, I am really looking forward to playing through this game again sometime. My character is so specialized for ranged attacks (although he can definitely hold his own in a melee fight) that playing as a magic user is going to be a completely different experience. Same with someone who is primarily melee. I enjoy it when games force you to specialize or be underpowered in other areas, unlike Fable II, where it was super easy to just level up all your stats at once.

[Mortis]

Just got that cleaver today! I stayed home from work since I wasn't feeling too hot, and managed to take out Flamelurker by my lonesome (on only the second try...magic worked much better than arrows), Abjudicator (friendly blue phantom showed me exactly where to hit him...what an easy fight!), and the lady in 3-1. False Idol, maybe? Something like that.

4-2 is a GREAT place to farm. All I do is kill the reaper with two arrows, then kill the super black skeleton samurai behind the hidden door. Gets me about 6-7k souls in a few minutes, then I run out and come right back in and do it again.

Nice. Yeah I was farming 4-2 also to get the stats for my cleaver, I am going to get 50k to get the ring that gives more souls then continue farming there for a while before I move on. I haven't been into 3-1, how long does it take to get to the vendor that sells the ring?

[Abyssion]

Nice. Yeah I was farming 4-2 also to get the stats for my cleaver, I am going to get 50k to get the ring that gives more souls then continue farming there for a while before I move on. I haven't been into 3-1, how long does it take to get to the vendor that sells the ring?

You can get that ring for free in 3-2 once you get closer to the end of the level.

[Camel]

Nice. Yeah I was farming 4-2 also to get the stats for my cleaver, I am going to get 50k to get the ring that gives more souls then continue farming there for a while before I move on. I haven't been into 3-1, how long does it take to get to the vendor that sells the ring?
I can't remember how long it took the first time, but on subsequent trips it doesn't take long at all. She is pretty close to the beginning of the level.

[Mortis]

I can't remember how long it took the first time, but on subsequent trips it doesn't take long at all. She is pretty close to the beginning of the level.

Thanks. I am just going to go ahead and buy it instead of waiting for 3-2, doesn't take long to farm 50k in 4-2.

[Wilkz07]

sold out everywheres.

[Spigot]

Heh. Stopped into an EB in a town I don't normally frequent (I was at a training session an hour or so away) and ended up having a GREAT conversation about Demon's Souls with the two clerks for about 15 minutes or so. I need to find the Thief's Ring after hearing about it though... It sounds mighty useful.

[Stoke]

You can get that ring for free in 3-2 once you get closer to the end of the level.

Damn, I wish I had known that before I spent 50K souls this morning. :p

I love 4-2 for farming souls, with firestorm I just run in and kill the reaper in one shot and run back out. Only a few minutes for 4500 souls. I just wished I had rolled a female character so I could use the silver bracelet as well.

[Camel]

Heh. Stopped into an EB in a town I don't normally frequent (I was at a training session an hour or so away) and ended up having a GREAT conversation about Demon's Souls with the two clerks for about 15 minutes or so. I need to find the Thief's Ring after hearing about it though... It sounds mighty useful.
It's pretty essential on 4-2. You will get dominated by flying ray barbs while you try to kill skeletons on a teeny weeny little ledge without the ring. With it? The rays don't notice you at all.

[Camel]

Damn, I wish I had known that before I spent 50K souls this morning. :p

I love 4-2 for farming souls, with firestorm I just run in and kill the reaper in one shot and run back out. Only a few minutes for 4500 souls. I just wished I had rolled a female character so I could use the silver bracelet as well.
You can give the silver bracelet to the crow in 4-1 to get a colorless demon soul (used to upgrade unique weapons that normally can't be upgraded).

EDIT: You can give the crow your spyglass too!

[Xydarc]

What's the name of the ring that gives extra souls?

[Xydarc]

Heh. Stopped into an EB in a town I don't normally frequent (I was at a training session an hour or so away) and ended up having a GREAT conversation about Demon's Souls with the two clerks for about 15 minutes or so. I need to find the Thief's Ring after hearing about it though... It sounds mighty useful.
Hats off to Spigot for not finding the Thief Ring. I'm impressed!:p

[Camel]

What's the name of the ring that gives extra souls?
Ring of Avarice

[Abyssion]

Killed my first crystal lizard, ROLLS RIGHT OFF THE FUCKING CLIFF!

[menage]

Killed my first crystal lizard, ROLLS RIGHT OFF THE FUCKING CLIFF!

Lol, they're a pain in the ass at first. Upgrade your bow!

[Wilkz07]

out of stock everywhere, even amazon.ca. don't think i need to go to over priced ebay to get it.

[Camel]

out of stock everywhere, even amazon.ca. don't think i need to go to over priced ebay to get it.
http://product.half.ebay.com/Demons-Souls_W0QQtgZinfoQQprZ70790899

[Evil Avnovice]

Last night, I decide to explore the new area beyond Penetrator archstone. Met a little bit of resistance:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-14075622.jpg

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-14073541.jpg

And a mixture of red-eyed knights and archers. Progress was going good until a dragon comes out of nowhere and decides to perch on the brigde that I need to pass.

Don't you just love dragons?

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-14080319.jpg

[Xydarc]

Evil, how is that shield working for you?

[Evil Avnovice]

Evil, how is that shield working for you?

What I like about it is since I always have a shield on me constantly, and its regenerative properties, my HP is good to go. Where I used to have the Regeneration Ring equipped all the time, I can free that slot up for something else (Thief's Ring/Ring of Avarice for example) thanks to that particular shield.

God knows I want to use some other shield, even if it's more for the look than the functionality, but I can't seem to part with this one at all. :o

[Xydarc]

What I like about it is since I always have a shield on me constantly, and its regenerative properties, my HP is good to go. Where I used to have the Regeneration Ring equipped all the time, I can free that slot up for something else (Thief's Ring/Ring of Avarice for example) thanks to that particular shield.

God knows I want to use some other shield, even if it's more for the look than the functionality, but I can't seem to part with this one at all. :o
Ah, I thought as much. It's not upgradable, is it?

[Evil Avnovice]

I went back to Dragon God just earlier this afternoon. It was very easy in the end, even though I had to move quickly to avoid being punched into the wall or doused with fire breath, but that was a very cool fight (dodging inbetween pillars).

I'm well rewarded for my effort, of course:

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-15125747.jpg

I did run into this blade, although inaccessible at the moment.

http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx230/Avnovice/Miscellaneous/2009-10-15125133.jpg

And some additional pics of Dragon God during the fight. One of the enclosed pictures shows that I had some balls to stand so close to it. :p

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[Xydarc]

I see you kept your brass telescope. I traded mine for the fragrant ring.

Keeps the pics coming!

[Evil Avnovice]

Ah, I thought as much. It's not upgradable, is it?

From what I've seen, no. Unless there's someone out there that can upgrade it that I'm not aware of.

[Evil Avnovice]

I see you kept your brass telescope. I traded mine for the fragrant ring.

Keeps the pics coming!

Thanks. I prefer my long bow, since I can see long distances and attack or defend if need be. I keep the telescope around, along with some herbs, to fill up my slots.

[Camel]

From what I've seen, no. Unless there's someone out there that can upgrade it that I'm not aware of.
Colorless Demon's Souls. From what I have read there are other ways to get them (involving the world tendency color), but I got one for trading in silver bracelets (couldn't wear them anyways) to the crow in 4-1.

[Stoke]

From what I've seen, no. Unless there's someone out there that can upgrade it that I'm not aware of.

If that's the Adjudicator's shield (http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/adjudictator-s-shield) then it can be upgraded with a colorless demon soul.

[Spigot]

Hats off to Spigot for not finding the Thief Ring. I'm impressed!:pHar har. Hey, I was being serious about Camel for being hardcore. I was actually more impressed to find an EB with two people who were as into Demon's Souls as I am.

out of stock everywhere, even amazon.ca. don't think i need to go to over priced ebay to get it.Should have ordered it early! I was actually impressed that Amazon.ca had it to me by the Wednesday of last week.

[Banacek]

Baseball playoffs have stolen all my time. I hope to get back to this game tomorrow at some point.

[Xydarc]

Har har. Hey, I was being serious about Camel for being hardcore. I was actually more impressed to find an EB with two people who were as into Demon's Souls as I am.

I'm more impressed that you found EB employees that knew what Demon's Souls was.

Any tips on dealing with that arrow-spewing statue in 3-1? I didn't last long, even in the fluted armor.:(

[mister slim]

out of stock everywhere, even amazon.ca. don't think i need to go to over priced ebay to get it.

Atlus has said they're shipping out more copies soon. Keep an eye on Amazon.

[Xydarc]

Atlus has said they're shipping out more copies soon. Keep an eye on Amazon.
I'm really curious to see sales numbers for DS. I don't expect it to be in the top 10, but with all the positive talk about it, I'm hoping it does well. Like Valkyria Chronicles, it deserves the sales.

[BLeeP]

Argh, just got Tower Knight down to less than a quarter of his health and then died. I wouldn't care so much but I used up a ton of grass.

[Wombat]

I'm more impressed that you found EB employees that knew what Demon's Souls was.

Any tips on dealing with that arrow-spewing statue in 3-1? I didn't last long, even in the fluted armor.:(

There's a way around it. I'll just say get the one treasure you can reach without getting into the path of the arrows.

[BLeeP]

Yay, Tower Knight is defeated. I got three levels off of that, I do believe. Now I guess I need to find another level to play, as this one isn't letting me go forward 8-P.

[Abyssion]

Lol, they're a pain in the ass at first. Upgrade your bow!

It wouldn't have pissed me off if its body sat still after I killed it, but after I fired my second arrow into it killing it, it just started tumbling. At which point I was yelling, QUIT ROLLING DAMMIT!! Which doesn't work...

But I wanna grab some loot over by where the lizard was, but I have no clue how to get over there. It's in 5-1 after the first fog, I'll take a snap of it tomorrow if no one knows what I am talking about.

[BLeeP]

Armored Spider Demon has to be the easiest boss ever. Spam attacks and eat some grass every now and then.

[nixpayn]

started playing this last night.

holy christ this game is hard lol. ive never died in a game so much in my life.

plus, you know, i dont really understand whats going on as far as all the weird symbols for ratings on stuff.. and i keep wondering.. is my dude gonna ever level up or does he stay a pussy forever..

hehe.

pretty fun so far.

the 'messages' on the ground, so far, dont really add much to the game as far as im concerned.

[Spigot]

the 'messages' on the ground, so far, dont really add much to the game as far as im concerned.I'd beg to differ. I've had a few where they say, "Watch out for ambush ahead" or "Use fire on the next enemy."

Those are quite helpful.

The ones that just say "Please recommend my message" are useless though.

[Gorvi]

and i keep wondering.. is my dude gonna ever level up or does he stay a pussy forever..
You can't raise your stats until you kill the first boss.

[Wilkz07]

Har har. Hey, I was being serious about Camel for being hardcore. I was actually more impressed to find an EB with two people who were as into Demon's Souls as I am.

Should have ordered it early! I was actually impressed that Amazon.ca had it to me by the Wednesday of last week.


I hadn't heard about this game until recently.

Has anyone used that Half.com before? Is it reliable?

[Kelegacy]

Yeah Spig, the recommend my message messages are annoying as hell. I've started skipping some messages because of them. But at least they disappear faster because they are useless and have no ratings--until someone creates another one.

[Spigot]

Yeah Spig, the recommend my message messages are annoying as hell. I've started skipping some messages because of them. But at least they disappear faster because they are useless and have no ratings--until someone creates another one.I don't get it though. Why bother making those kind of messages? Do you get a special item? Can you start flying if you have recommended messages?

If nothing else, take a look at what messages ARE getting good reviews and realize THAT THEY ARE USEFUL!

[Xydarc]

Yay, Tower Knight is defeated. I got three levels off of that, I do believe. Now I guess I need to find another level to play, as this one isn't letting me go forward 8-P.
You have to kill an Archdemon (final level boss, like Storm King) before the colorless fog with go away. However, you are now free to roam about the country, only without flying Southwest.:p

Armored Spider Demon has to be the easiest boss ever. Spam attacks and eat some grass every now and then.
Armor Spider and Abjudicator are the easiest bosses in the game, IMO. All you need is a good bow, some arrows, and you're golden.

started playing this last night.

holy christ this game is hard lol. ive never died in a game so much in my life.

plus, you know, i dont really understand whats going on as far as all the weird symbols for ratings on stuff.. and i keep wondering.. is my dude gonna ever level up or does he stay a pussy forever..

hehe.

pretty fun so far.

the 'messages' on the ground, so far, dont really add much to the game as far as im concerned.
Once you beat Phalanx, the Maiden in Black will trade stat upgrades for your souls.

[Camel]

I hadn't heard about this game until recently.

Has anyone used that Half.com before? Is it reliable?
I've used it for years, both for buying and selling. It's run by ebay, and used only for books, games, CDs, and movies. Instead of bidding, you pay whatever price is listed. Shipping is always a flat rate, as opposed to the stupidity going on over at ebay.

I love it, and it has saved me tons of money over the years.

EDIT: If you already have an ebay account, the two sites (ebay and half) share the same login. All of the feedback ratings are shared between the two sites as well.

[bstiff]

I don't get it though. Why bother making those kind of messages? Do you get a special item? Can you start flying if you have recommended messages?

If nothing else, take a look at what messages ARE getting good reviews and realize THAT THEY ARE USEFUL!

If someone recommends your message it restores your hit points. finally killed flamelurker. Body form, holy arrows, thief ring and it was cake. First time he kicked my ass though. I could never roll far enough away to get a shot off.

[Xydarc]

I don't get it though. Why bother making those kind of messages? Do you get a special item? Can you start flying if you have recommended messages?

If nothing else, take a look at what messages ARE getting good reviews and realize THAT THEY ARE USEFUL!
Anytime one of your messages get recommended, it heals you completely. That's the purpose of the "I"m in trouble..." messages. I've found that 85% of messages have been helpful. Especially in the Tower of Latria. I would have fallen to my death twice if not for "Beware of a fall ahead" warnings.

[rein]

I don't get it though. Why bother making those kind of messages? Do you get a special item? Can you start flying if you have recommended messages?

If nothing else, take a look at what messages ARE getting good reviews and realize THAT THEY ARE USEFUL!I think it heals you and restores magic points when someone recommends your message.

I don't post useless ones but I have had a couple legit recommended messages. It's kind of cool when it happens. I'm always up for free healing and mana.

Edit- What Xydarc said. :)

[Camel]

The most helpful messages for me so far were in 2-2, where you take the shortcut to Flamelurker. It's hard to tell when it is safe to jump off of whatever you are standing on, and the messages that say "take a step forward" are pretty helpful.

Also, my favorite message so far was the one I saw after I defeated a boss (can't remember which). The message just said "Welcome!" but it, combined with the giddy feeling I had after just completing a difficult task, was awesome.

[Spigot]

Ah. I missed that tidbit. I guess that explains the Demon's Spam.

[rein]

Ah. I missed that tidbit. I guess that explains the Demon's Spam.What would be awesome is the ability to negatively rate a message and take health and magic points away from spammers. :D

[Spigot]

Someone needs to put a Nigerian millionairre spam message in Demon's Souls form...

[nixpayn]

Someone needs to put a Nigerian millionairre spam message in Demon's Souls form...

there was one i saw that says "you cant go forward without the sticky white substance"

lol

[Xydarc]

Ah. I missed that tidbit. I guess that explains the Demon's Spam.
You are too clever for your own good.:)

[Kelegacy]

Ah. I missed that tidbit. I guess that explains the Demon's Spam.

I missed that was well. That is awesome. I had two messages recommended, didn't realize it gave me health. Huh.

I have recommended a few messages as well, ones that helped me out. Trying to be a nice guy and all.

[Evil Avnovice]

Tower of Latria:

I am now the PROUD owner of....Maneater!

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This one was pretty tough. Like a few others here, I must have been thrown off guard as well when the second one shows up to join the battle. At first, I couldn't figure it out: would the second Maneater not come if I moved a certain distance? No. I hovered near the gate and it still came. Then I realized that I had a certain amount of time to try and take out the first one before the second Maneater shows up, so it was a matter of using my rushdown game and trying to kill it as soon as possible, which was a little difficult, as when Maneater is airborne, I would have to wait for it to land before starting my assualt. I died several times before I was able to dispatch the first one and control the entire fight with the second one.

As to Maneater itself, I mostly died from being knocked off the ledge so much, and his tackle is insanely fast, leading to mistimed dodgings on my part. Recorrecting my strategy, I would keep a close distance to Maneater, only backing away when he would use his shockwave-type attack that would leave me stunned. His punch and double-handed ground pound were easily avoided by dodging. As for his tackle, I would position myself near the edges of the bridge and when he went for it, timed it so that I would dodge to the middle of the brigde and not end up near the edge, with just enough time to manuver the camera and re-target him, since Maneater throws off the lock-on.

I press onward....

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And run into some dude named "Old Monk". It was a pretty weak boss fight overall. Didn't take long to wipe the floor with that chump.

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[Evil Avnovice]

Any tips on dealing with that arrow-spewing statue in 3-1? I didn't last long, even in the fluted armor.:(

On one of the lower floors of Tower of Latria, you're supposed to find a route around it, where you can deactivate the contraption and you're free to take the items around the bodies, and have a convient shortcut to the upcoming boss fight.

[Evil Avnovice]

Penetrator Archstone:

After Maneater, I went back here since the dragon was blocking progress near the bridge. I was still stumped, so I tried making a run for it. I did see the first fat guy, which I let the dragon toast for me. I make a dash for it, and didn't see the second one, which costs me my life. Now, I take him out with arrows before attempting to run for the other side of the bridge. I gety past that, and the dragon flies further up the stairs to the entrance and blocks that.

Almost feel sorry for the poor red-eyed soul who got toasted.

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I found a full set of Brushwood armor, and end up keeping half (Sorry, but the armor and gauntlets slow me down something fierce. The shield was nice, but my Tower Shield was just as heavy (and movement sapping), and for being good against fire, the tip of the dragon's fire breath ate my entire stamina). Then I get toasted trying to get up the steps. I wasn't sure what to do here, as scouting around, I didn't see any safety spots, and hiding behind the pillars didn't provide any protection.

Then I got an idea. I retreated to the Nexus, remembered "Water Veil", and reattempted it. On some tries, I was caught in the blast, but made it overall.

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There was one red aura knight blocking my progress. I tried going toe to toe with him to see what would happen, but just ran around him to the elevator in the back, since his sword bypasses my shield and into my health, often killing me in two hits, even while blocking.

At the top was "Old King Allant". Talk about a tough boss fight. His most deadly attacks is an explosing that spreads over a large radius, a multi-hit combo that decimates you, and an attack where he flies at you and hits you with a slash. I had to keep a large distance from the explosion, and dodge when he would fly at me to slash at me, getting a few hits in when possible.

Died a few times, but I came out on top.

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[Tayaya]

Congrats, Evil, you're getting so close to the end of the game! I think you'll be the first here to tackle the US version, as there is no WAY I'll be catching up (going out for the weekend).

Old Monk is a cool boss, because the black phantom you fight MAY be another player. Depending on who is out stalking other players as Black Phantoms on the server, the game will rip one of them out of their game and plop them down in Old Monk's Chamber to wait for you to get to them. Depending on how good of a player they are, that can make the boss battle really hard, or really easy.

The generic Black Phantoms he spawns when no live ones are available are pretty weak, though.

Also: Old King Allant is the easiest boss in the game.... if you have Death Cloud! You literally just cast it and wait while he walks around and dies a long, slow death (long being like 15 minutes). Getting close enough to cast without him detecting you is the only hard part, and it's not hard at all.

Oh... legitimately? Harder than Flamelurker, baby!

[Evil Avnovice]

Old Monk is a cool boss, because the black phantom you fight MAY be another player. Depending on who is out stalking other players as Black Phantoms on the server, the game will rip one of them out of their game and plop them down in Old Monk's Chamber to wait for you to get to them. Depending on how good of a player they are, that can make the boss battle really hard, or really easy.

The generic Black Phantoms he spawns when no live ones are available are pretty weak, though.

I play the game offline, as I'm not interested in the multiplayer portion. It's all single player.

Taking on Old Monk, all he did was rush me and summon little yellow orbs that would shoot projectiles at me. He would dodge every now and then, but I just popped his ass when he got near.

Also: Old King Allant is the easiest boss in the game.... if you have Death Cloud! You literally just cast it and wait while he walks around and dies a long, slow death (long being like 15 minutes). Getting close enough to cast without him detecting you is the only hard part, and it's not hard at all.

Oh... legitimately? Harder than Flamelurker, baby!

Yep. I don't have much in the way of spells, so I like to tackle bosses with shield and weapon. I have been eyeing the "God's Wrath" spell, since I have Dragon God's souls, which is needed to obtain it.

[Spigot]

I have to chuckle at the fact that our resident Wii nut has done nothing but post about a PS3 game for the last week or so. All hail the power of Demon's Souls!

[Banacek]

I have to chuckle at the fact that our resident Wii nut has done nothing but post about a PS3 game for the last week or so. All hail the power of Demon's Souls!

I'd say he was more of a Japanese Game nut then Wii nut, and this game clearly falls under that category :)

[rein]

Wii nut sounds funny.