Far Crash 2

[Inspector Fowler]

I've played about 2-3 hours of Far Cry 2. It's the most crashtastic program I think I've ever used. I've had 4 times where it just quit to Windows - no error message, nothing. I've had 1 time where I got the BSOD.

My video card drivers are up to date - my sound drivers are up to date - I guess there is more troubleshooting I'll get busy doing, memtest, etc, but overall it pisses me off greatly. Because of their checkpoint-based saved system, I have not progressed very far.

I haven't PC gamed much for the last two years - I built this system in February and so far it's worked just fine. Crysis and C&C 3 worked pretty well - no crashed. WoW, of all things, crashes occasionally.

I feel like you get fucked either way. I build an expensive PC and end up wasting a bunch of time troubleshooting and getting shit to work, and I get a great gaming experience. I can step it down a notch in terms of graphics and resolution, but I don't get any fucking hassles with hardware and drivers.

Pretty pissed. I was looking forward to this all day. :mad:

[Reverant]

F5 is the quicksave button. What OS are you running? I played for an hour straight without a hitch on Vista 64.

[Schnoogs]

Consoles for the win

[Shadowstorm]

Consoles for the win

$60 games for the loss.

[Inspector Fowler]

F5 is the quicksave button. What OS are you running? I played for an hour straight without a hitch on Vista 64.

F5? Are you fucking kidding me? It's been telling me I needed to save at the savehouses? Son of a whore.

I'm using Vista 64 as well.

[Reverant]

I'm a wuss, so I immediately hit all the function keys until I find the quicksave in my games. Make sure Vista SP1 is installed. That's been reported to solve some crashes.

[Schnoogs]

$60 games for the loss.

$45 that crash for the loss. At least mine plays. :rolleyes:

[violent]

$45 that crash for the loss. At least mine plays. :rolleyes:

Inferior visuals FTL.

I just want to join in on the fun.

[Inspector Fowler]

Enraged fat guy at his computer FTL! :D
Seriously, I'm LOVING the look and feel of it so far. You know, when it runs ;)

[BlackScarab]

I haven't crashed once and I've even alt+tabbed like 15 times trying to copy my cd key to play multiplayer. Maybe having the most up to date driver is the problem? I've found that using a more stable driver rather than the newest driver is better for me.

[Schnoogs]

Inferior visuals FTL.

I just want to join in on the fun.

A game that actually plays FTW

[violent]

A game that actually plays FTW

Not being one of the PC guys with issues FTW.

[Schnoogs]

Not being one of the PC guys with issues FTW.

No achievements for the loss :p

Enjoy your game man!

[Inspector Fowler]

I am typing this shit from my Blackberry before I hit the sack. memtest86+ is running. I've never used it before - it got 4 errors on the first pass, but the second time through, the same test produced no errors.Is this normal? I've never used memtest before. Is there an acceptable number of non-repéated errors? Damn, man. And I was just starting to have fun setting people on fire, too.

[Xerxes]

Isn't it for the "Lose?"

[Hotcod]

i hate to say it...........

OMG MAGIC PC!

[Disgustipated]

No crashes so far here. Also, you can save whenever you want. Noob. ;)

You're using Vista, that could be it. Also, you might be made of fail. Who knows.

FTW?

[RandoM51]

$45 that crash for the loss. At least mine plays. :rolleyes:

I've not managed to play any games on a red-ringed 360.

No achievements for the loss :p


Back in my day we had achievements too, but they were called "unlocks". Not only did you achieve something, you were also rewarded with something that advanced and/or extended the gameplay. Fortunately for developers Microsoft has replaced those with achievements, something much easier for the developer to implement, albeit only useful for meaningless e-peen dick-waving.

Bring back the unlock, down with achievements. :) Oh, and kudos to the games like Uncharted that manage to combine achievements and unlocks into a whole greater than the sum of its parts. Mass Effect also managed this a few times.

[Goronmon]

Is there an acceptable number of non-repéated errors?Nope, you should never get any errors running MemTest. That said, if you get errors on a first pass and then no more for like a day of running, then I wouldn't be too worried. However, if it errors, it means something is wrong.

[SilentScreams]

Guh, don't talk to me about PC problems.
I've just sunk £1,350 into a new PC for games like Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3, and I can't get the damn thing working.
At least your PC works. :D

[muddi900]

F5? Are you fucking kidding me? It's been telling me I needed to save at the savehouses? Son of a whore.

I'm using Vista 64 as well.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB!

Seriously, you're new at PC gaming!

No achievements for the loss :p

Enjoy your game man!

Playing an FPS with a gamepad FTL!!

Can't top that, biatch!

[Deadend]

It's Ubi, they make games that crash.

[Inspector Fowler]

I was actually enraged by the lack of a quicksave. It's not like you ever get a tutorial hint. I've been PC gaming since I had to make a boot disk to run DOOM on my 386. I figured that since this game is multiplatform they had the same save scheme for every version.

Memtest ran all night without any further errors. I dunno. Nothing is overclocked.

[muddi900]

I was actually enraged by the lack of a quicksave. It's not like you ever get a tutorial hint. I've been PC gaming since I had to make a boot disk to run DOOM on my 386. I figured that since this game is multiplatform they had the same save scheme for every version.

Memtest ran all night without any further errors. I dunno. Nothing is overclocked.

Here's your nerd cred back, but only half!

[Grifter]

I've put a couple hours in and haven't had a single issue. As a matter of fact about the only thing I thought while playing was how freakin good it looks in relation to how well it runs. I have everything maxed under DX10 at 1680x1050 at it never drops below 47fps, I think I'll bump it up to 1920x1080 and see how it runs. I'm using Vista 64 and a 9800GTX.

We will see how Fallout 3 turns out but so far I think this may have my "game of the year" vote.

Edit - Also if you hit ESC there is a save option in the menu.

EDIT 2 -
I've played about 2-3 hours of Far Cry 2. It's the most crashtastic program I think I've ever used. I've had 4 times where it just quit to Windows - no error message, nothing. I've had 1 time where I got the BSOD.

My video card drivers are up to date - my sound drivers are up to date - I guess there is more troubleshooting I'll get busy doing, memtest, etc, but overall it pisses me off greatly. Because of their checkpoint-based saved system, I have not progressed very far.

I haven't PC gamed much for the last two years - I built this system in February and so far it's worked just fine. Crysis and C&C 3 worked pretty well - no crashed. WoW, of all things, crashes occasionally.

I feel like you get fucked either way. I build an expensive PC and end up wasting a bunch of time troubleshooting and getting shit to work, and I get a great gaming experience. I can step it down a notch in terms of graphics and resolution, but I don't get any fucking hassles with hardware and drivers.

Pretty pissed. I was looking forward to this all day. :mad:

You should also mention you are using the Steam version.

I don't know what driver version you are using but just in case you didn't know nVidia released new drivers the 15th of this month which are the ones I am using and I haven't had asingle issue.

[c0m3d14n]

Consoles for the win
i also want to add something new and interesting

mouse ftw!

although i guess i will not play far cry 2 for that reason...
shooter = mouse
mouse = pc
pc = drm
drm = fail
=> no purchase ;)

[Schnoogs]

If they only knew that they were talking to the world's biggest PC/FPS fan.

Silly kids! ;)

[DiBiddilyBop]

Well, I've had a couple crashes from Far Cry 2, but it's not the game's fault. Apparently it's the first thing I've run that really pushes my system, so when I cracked my case open I realized just how hot my CPU heatsink is getting. Leaving my case open resulted in no more crashes and a cool heat sink. Apparently I'll need to fix that before I continue.

Improved airflow FTW!

[Crittias]

Fowler, I'm really sorry to hear about your crashing issues. I played the game for about 4 hours straight yesterday without a single hitch.

Specs:
Wolfdale E8400
4GB RAM
8800 GTS 512 w/ 178.13 drivers
Vista x64

I had been running Omega drivers, and found that the official drivers resulted in significant framerate improvements.

[Inspector Fowler]

I'm using the newest Nvidia drivers. I hope this doesn't end up like Battlefield 2 where I had to find a different video card driver every time they patched the game. I need to chechk my heat, but the case has good airflow- Crysis didn't overheat it at all. I let memtest go all night and it never did get any more errors. I will probably run it again tonight, though, after checking CPU temps while I play.Again, though - I have to say that when it's running it's gorgeous and actually fun to boot!

[violent]

If they only knew that they were talking to the world's biggest PC/FPS fan.

Silly kids! ;)

No install FTW.

[MalReynolds]

Inferior visuals FTL.

I just want to join in on the fun.

still a beautiful looking game on 360

[violent]

still a beautiful looking game on 360

You've missed my role in this thread but for facts sake, they are still inferior.

[Schnoogs]

still a beautiful looking game on 360

Especially when you play both versions on the same TV...they look identical. The PC version only pays off if you're running a resolution much higher than what you can obtain with your 360.

I have a 720p projector and I've done comparisons between games like Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, etc and the difference is negligible at that resolution. A little AA but other than that they look the same.

[Schnoogs]

You've missed my role in this thread but for facts sake, they are still inferior.

Not really but keep telling yourself that! ;)

[sparkfizt]

If it's steam try checking the cache for consistency, it will likely take a while but it's solved some steam game issues for me in the past.

[violent]

Not really but keep telling yourself that! ;)

Higher resolutions are better right? Damn, I always forget that one.

[Schnoogs]

Higher resolutions are better right? Damn, I always forget that one.

Not when your TV is a fixed resolution...plus unless you have a 2560x1600 30" display like I do you're playing it at 1920x1200 which is approx the max res for the XBox and PS3....1080p.

I guess that extra 120 lines makes all the difference in the world! :p

[Ghostbear]

I've played about 2-3 hours of Far Cry 2. It's the most crashtastic program I think I've ever used. I've had 4 times where it just quit to Windows - no error message, nothing. I've had 1 time where I got the BSOD.

My video card drivers are up to date - my sound drivers are up to date - I guess there is more troubleshooting I'll get busy doing, memtest, etc, but overall it pisses me off greatly. Because of their checkpoint-based saved system, I have not progressed very far.

I haven't PC gamed much for the last two years - I built this system in February and so far it's worked just fine. Crysis and C&C 3 worked pretty well - no crashed. WoW, of all things, crashes occasionally.

I feel like you get fucked either way. I build an expensive PC and end up wasting a bunch of time troubleshooting and getting shit to work, and I get a great gaming experience. I can step it down a notch in terms of graphics and resolution, but I don't get any fucking hassles with hardware and drivers.

Pretty pissed. I was looking forward to this all day. :mad:
Evil? is that you? ;) :p

[violent]

Not when your TV is a fixed resolution...plus unless you have a 2560x1600 30" display like I do you're playing it at 1920x1200 which is approx the max res for the XBox and PS3....1080p.

I guess that extra 120 lines makes all the difference in the world! :p

Don't know about you but I can see them. It's where my character keeps his beer.

[Johan]

Good night! (as in "goodness gracious!"). Platform-of-choice bickering FTL! :)

[Inspector Fowler]

Platform arguments aside (no fighting in the war room, gentlemen...), I could have bought the game for any of the platforms it's available on. I chose the PC because none of my 360 owning buddies are getting it, I don't really like FPS games on the PS2 controller, and since my computer is pretty powerful, why not? I can run it at 16?? X 1050 and it looks great, I have almost every slider set to high. When it's running, it is smooth and looks absolutely beautiful. I like the look better than Crysis and it runs a truckload better.

But the crashes....man...it just goes straight to desktop. Not even an error message from Windows. Just my desktop. And, of course, the one BSOD, which is not a common sight for me these days.

[H.Bogard]

$45 that crash for the loss. At least mine plays. :rolleyes:

On a Red ringed 360?

Oh, beaten to the punch.

Especially when you play both versions on the same TV...they look identical. The PC version only pays off if you're running a resolution much higher than what you can obtain with your 360.

I have a 720p projector and I've done comparisons between games like Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, etc and the difference is negligible at that resolution. A little AA but other than that they look the same.

So the 360 version of Far Cry 2 has 4xAA, AF and zero pop in? COD4 was the same on all platforms which is why it ran so well even on shitty PCs. As for Bioshock, the visuals are ridiculously good on DX10, if you've ever tried it.

Frowler, you need to try those new NVidia drivers that they're released specifically for this game, though I doubt your issue is related. Would you mind posting your specs? (Do you have the SP installed?)

[Inspector Fowler]

My Nvidia drivers are the ones released on 10/15/08, those should be the newest ones, right?

I'm running an Intel Quad Core on a Gigabyte MoBo. The MoBo is one of their overbuilt supercooling ones. I have 4GB of 1066 RAM and a 512 MB 8800GTS. HD is a 250 GB 3/MB SATA. OS is Vista Home Premium 64 bit edition. I have nothing overclocked or tweaked.

Also - is there a utility that will help me track CPU and GPU temps? One that logs them like every 5 seconds or so or something? The utility that came with the mobo looks like it was programmed in 1995, and it never seemed to run very well or be very useful. Surely there is some kind of overclocker freeware out there that will help me figure out if heat is the problem?

Also - to all who pointed out the quicksave, thank you. I ran 2 missions back to back tonight - I unlocked a new safe house...right as I reached for the door, BAM! Crash. Had I not been quicksaving, there would be some computer debris flying around ;)

[Disgustipated]

My Nvidia drivers are the ones released on 10/15/08, those should be the newest ones, right?

I'm running an Intel Quad Core on a Gigabyte MoBo. The MoBo is one of their overbuilt supercooling ones. I have 4GB of 1066 RAM and a 512 MB 8800GTS. HD is a 250 GB 3/MB SATA. OS is Vista Home Premium 64 bit edition. I have nothing overclocked or tweaked.

Also - is there a utility that will help me track CPU and GPU temps? One that logs them like every 5 seconds or so or something? The utility that came with the mobo looks like it was programmed in 1995, and it never seemed to run very well or be very useful. Surely there is some kind of overclocker freeware out there that will help me figure out if heat is the problem?

Also - to all who pointed out the quicksave, thank you. I ran 2 missions back to back tonight - I unlocked a new safe house...right as I reached for the door, BAM! Crash. Had I not been quicksaving, there would be some computer debris flying around ;)

No. They just released new beta drivers on 10/21/08. 180.44. Grab those. Increase FC2 performance.

[Schnoogs]

So the 360 version of Far Cry 2 has 4xAA, AF and zero pop in


Yawn...already addressed in this thread...you'd know that if you had actually read it. :rolleyes:

[Schnoogs]

As for Bioshock, the visuals are ridiculously good on DX10, if you've ever tried it.


So in other words...

$45 + $100 + $200 = $345 (game, DX 10 card and Vista)

Pretty sure $60 < $345

FAIL

[H.Bogard]

So in other words...

$45 + $100 + $200 = $345 (game, DX 10 card and Vista)

Pretty sure $60 < $345

FAIL

How smart, attributing the entire cost of Vista to playing just one game.

[Inspector Fowler]

No. They just released new beta drivers on 10/21/08. 180.44. Grab those. Increase FC2 performance.

Damn Nvidia and their little auto-driver-finder-thingy.

I imagine beta drivers as the "last ditch" effort in every Star Trek episode. Everybody says they'll all die, that it would never work, and it works every time anyway.

Also - all the PC versus Console guys - this shit has been going on since Ford vs Chevy. It won't be resolved here. Or ever. Can't we all just get along and laugh at Inspector Fowler's BSOD?

[violent]

So in other words...

$45 + $100 + $200 = $345 (game, DX 10 card and Vista)

Pretty sure $60 < $345

FAIL

alt-tabbing for a porno break?

[Mr. Murphy]

So in other words...

$45 + $100 + $200 = $345 (game, DX 10 card and Vista)

Pretty sure $60 < $345

FAIL

Maybe it's just your mood tonight, but I'm starting to get the sense that you are more interested in "winning the conversation" with some quick quip than you are in participating with anything helpful. You could take out every single post you've made in this thread and we wouldn't be losing a thing.

[Mr. Murphy]

alt-tabbing for a porno break?

I can't imagine there would be the time, in a game like FC2. Now, while you're flying from place to place in WoW, that's when you need a little 'alt+tab alone time'...

[violent]

I can't imagine there would be the time, in a game like FC2. Now, while you're flying from place to place in WoW, that's when you need a little 'alt+tab alone time'...

Quiet you. There's little argument to be had from the console front on such a fact.

[Mr. Murphy]

Quiet you. There's little argument to be had from the console front on such a fact.

Edit: durh, I had to re-read the page, but I follow.

I've been up for two days. I'm going to bed.

[Shadowstorm]

So in other words...

$45 + $100 + $200 = $345 (game, DX 10 card and Vista)

Pretty sure $60 < $345

FAIL

Oh shit! Man the anti-troll artillery!

[Dukefrukem]

$60 games for the loss.

Touche! LOL... Shadowstorm wins.

[crazyD]

Guh, don't talk to me about PC problems.
I've just sunk £1,350 into a new PC for games like Far Cry 2 and Fallout 3, and I can't get the damn thing working.
At least your PC works. :D

Wow, paid too much and you still can't get it working.

Schnoogs is the master of turning a simple thread into an unrelated argument.

[Dukefrukem]

Wow, paid too much and you still can't get it working.

Schnoogs is the master of turning a simple thread into an unrelated argument.

I agree that it was completely from left field and cheap post. But I LOLed.

[H.Bogard]

Maybe it's just your mood tonight, but I'm starting to get the sense that you are more interested in "winning the conversation" with some quick quip than you are in participating with anything helpful. You could take out every single post you've made in this thread and we wouldn't be losing a thing.

Don't spoil the fun. I need an excuse to piss on other people's preferences, real argument or not.

[RandoM51]

Just spent 10+ hours playing it, no crashes, hitches, or obvious bugs.

2 Jeeps, 1 RPG, lots of fire!

http://i35.tinypic.com/4udspc.jpg

[SilentScreams]

Wow, paid too much and you still can't get it working.

Schnoogs is the master of turning a simple thread into an unrelated argument.

Actually, that was cheaper than it should have been. And it's working now.

:p

[Crowe]

I'm glad I rarely have problems with my PC's. I've had a couple, but they so far don't match a 360 that has a dodgy DVD tray and has heating problems lol.

This game has so far been incredibly stable for me, maybe it's just vista, there is a good chance I will be running XP till the next windows comes out. Too many stories from too many people. What I do need is new CPU though, an Opteron 148 is only just holding on.

[muddi900]

If they only knew that they were talking to the world's biggest PC/FPS fan.

Silly kids! ;)

Oh we knew. But has that ever stopped us?:D

Just spent 10+ hours playing it, no crashes, hitches, or obvious bugs.

2 Jeeps, 1 RPG, lots of fire!

*awesome fire image*

I just said motherfucker in 5 languages. I have finals in 2 weeks. I can't handle this bullshit. Assholes!

[Zrikz]

Oh we knew. But has that ever stopped us?:D



I just said motherfucker in 5 languages. I have finals in 2 weeks. I can't handle this bullshit. Assholes!

2 weeks? wtf.. like 5-6 weeks for me with at least 7 more 5-8 page papers before then. I'm so ready for this semester to be over...

Due to amazing game releases, this is where you get your studying done by a reasonable time and squeeze in that extra couple hours and sleep deprivation so that you can check out the good stuff =/

[Inspector Fowler]

Son of a bitch. Still crashing ALL the time. At this point, graphics or not, I wish I'd just got it for the damn consoles.

[Schnoogs]

Schnoogs is the master of turning a simple thread into an unrelated argument.

My comment was about Far Cry 2 and crashing....yep...completely off topic :p

I guess you're the master of saying things that make zero sense.

[RandoM51]

His name is crazyD. :)

[crazyD]

My comment was about Far Cry 2 and crashing....yep...completely off topic :p

I guess you're the master of saying things that make zero sense.

Nah, your comment was about silly console vs. PC arguing. It was kind of connected in a side long kind of way.

[Schnoogs]

Nah, your comment was about silly console vs. PC arguing. It was kind of connected in a side long kind of way.

Actually it was about Far Cry 2 not crashing...how others reacted to it was beyond my control...perhaps you should lecture them instead.

[crazyD]

Actually it was about Far Cry 2 not crashing...how others reacted to it was beyond my control...perhaps you should lecture them instead.

I dunno, I generally think the spark is more responsible for the flame then the tinder.

[Schnoogs]

I dunno, I generally think the spark is more responsible for the flame then the tinder.

In that case I was merely the tender...my existance alone doesn't cause fire...the first person to respond was the spark.

[H.Bogard]

In that case I was merely the tender...my existance alone doesn't cause fire...the first person to respond was the spark.

It's existence* (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/existence)

[Inspector Fowler]

It's existence* (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/existence)

On that note, it's "tinder", not "tender".

;)

[CptTripps]

This game looks fantastic on 360 imo. Controls are good too, I'm loving it way more than FarCry.

[SilentScreams]

After playing this game I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to any other game's lame ass frag grenades.
On most games, you get a little bang and a bit of smoke. In Far Cry 2, you get a *BOOM* and debris flying everywhere. On a kind of related note, I love the way shotguns sound in this game too. This is how they should sound. Not the weak little bang you get on most games.

[JayK47]

Son of a bitch. Still crashing ALL the time. At this point, graphics or not, I wish I'd just got it for the damn consoles.

I wouldn't go that far;) If you are like me, you are currently overwhelmed by all of the great games that have come out or soon will. You could simply divert your attention while a patch comes out and cross your fingers that it fixes your issues. Check official forums and make sure you are not the only one with issues (doubtful). I have Vista 64 with an 8800GT and no crashes. The only bug I have had so far is with mapping the use key to something besides E which makes it so you can't get off of machine gun placements. I have to use default (ugh). That is PC gaming for you. Pros and Cons. I've got Fallout 3 in the mail, and if that doesn't run on my PC I will be pissed. I can only hope I can take my own advice and be patient for a fix.

[tombofsoldier]

Ha ha, sadly OP is right for me. Game makes my processor overheat like a motherf*$3. To be clear, this is essentially a bug and I can play Crysis on very high DX9 without this happening. Guess I have to wait for a patch or something.

[DiBiddilyBop]

The game makes my proc overheat too, but if I pop the side of my case off, I'm fine.

Bad airflow FTL.

[violent]

Working fine here.

[H.Bogard]

Works fine here too. Never heard of a single game overheating hardware when others don't at the same time.

[Disgustipated]

Ha ha, sadly OP is right for me. Game makes my processor overheat like a motherf*$3. To be clear, this is essentially a bug and I can play Crysis on very high DX9 without this happening. Guess I have to wait for a patch or something.

Go use Prime95 on your processor. If Far Cry 2 makes it overheat, that definitely will.

[Crittias]

Works fine here too. Never heard of a single game overheating hardware when others don't at the same time.Yeah, this strikes me as odd, as well. Overheating should be an all-or-nothing kind of thing.

[biosc1]

Yeah, this strikes me as odd, as well. Overheating should be an all-or-nothing kind of thing.

Could it not be a driver issue? The company may be tweaking the driver to maintain performance on a game-by-game basis...kind of a cheat, if you know what I mean.

[Inspector Fowler]

What should a "normal" temp for your CPU(s) be? I've got a quad core Intel. When the temps get over 50C or so for any core, SpeedFan just shows a little flame symbol next to the temp, which makes me VERY nervous.

[H.Bogard]

What should a "normal" temp for your CPU(s) be? I've got a quad core Intel. When the temps get over 50C or so for any core, SpeedFan just shows a little flame symbol next to the temp, which makes me VERY nervous.

Depends on your CPU. The C2D's have a great tolerance level... so even at 60+ they will be okay. The 70-90 point is the alarming stage.

Awesome fact: the Geforce 8800 (G92) can stand temperatures upto 110*C.

[Inspector Fowler]

I just uninstalled this game. I am severely pissed about it. It never, ever worked right. I realize that, for a certain percentage of PC gamers, some games never do work correctly, and that it's not feasible for PC developers to stop this, given the (essentially) infinite combinations of hardware, operating systems, and drivers that their customers will have.

It still disappoints me that a computer with good quality hardware and the absolute latest drivers can't simply play the game.

A little Google searching revealed to me that a very vocal group is having the same problem as me - some people swear it's only ATI users, others swear it's only Nvidia. Some swear the game won't work on Vista, others have the same crashing in XP. There seems to be no common thread, and so far, Ubisoft hasn't even acknowledge the problem in their support forums.

I will NOT wait for a patch. I will NOT keep troubleshooting THEIR bullshit. If Far Cry 2 makes it crash this often, why didn't/don't WoW, Crysis, Command and Conquer 3, etc?

I took a couple years away from "serious" PC gaming because I just couldn't afford to keep up. I was also disappointed with the amount of difficulty I had - some games installed and worked perfectly, others required an endless amount of "which driver should I use" and "have I prayed to the right gods today" bullshit. I see I haven't missed much.

Even though I feel that with many games, especially first person shooters, you get a much, much better experience on the PC, I don't plan on trying it anymore.

Sorry for the rant. I know most people are having an excellent time with this game, and that's cool, because the game itself KICKS ASS.

[biosc1]

You should go talk to MagGnome about his 360 issues...perhaps you two could swap gaming devices ;)

[Inspector Fowler]

You should go talk to MagGnome about his 360 issues...perhaps you two could swap gaming devices ;)

You'll notice that I didn't rely on the ol' standby argument that consoles are super-reliable. :) My 360 has gone back to MS three times, and is now with a friend. I bought an Elite that is thus far working flawlessly. My PS3...well...I haven't bought any games that I've actually beaten for it. Valkeyeurueuauuea Chronicles will probably be the first one.

I guess the advantage of my 360s has been that they either work completely or they are dead completely - no drivers to fuss with, no wondering if I have some corrupted file or some other bullshit, etc. I guess that, as a homeowner with a full time job and a wife I enjoy seeing, I'd rather the machine just give me a huge middle finger and die than make me waste 10 hours trying to get ONE fucking game to work.

[biosc1]

True...I think those are the times I fall out of pc gaming. I go through phases where I'm pro-console or pro-pc...usually happens when something goes terribly wrong with one or the other.

Thankfully, right now I'm in a nice place in-between...until my 360 dies or my graphics card in my pc dies.

I have to say, too, that this does make me want to wait before purchasing Far Cry 2...

[Dukefrukem]

is this thread also used for discussion of the game or is there another thread somewhere? I can't search because Far and Cry are only three letters long.

[Crittias]

http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=1607