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Norse
10-01-2008, 07:50 AM
I found this on a Norwegian message board. They claim the info was taken from Gamespot, but the link is now dead.

-Platforms: Xbox 360, PC

-Release date: Xbox 360 - November 2009 (Worldwide), PC - TBA 2010

-Developer: BioWare, with support from EA and Microsoft Games Studios

-Publisher: EA

-Engine: Unreal Engine 3 (Custom)

-Mass Effect 2 is a 6-month timed exclusive game for the Xbox 360

-The same team that worked on Mass Effect is working on Mass Effect 2

-Mass Effect 2 has been in development since July 2007,
total development time for Mass Effect 2 will be 28 Months

-The story in Mass Effect 2 will continue 2 months after Mass Effect

-The story will not continue depending on the last decision made by the player in Mass Effect, it will however continue after the PC version ending

-The character created in Mass Effect can be transported into Mass Effect 2 via save-files

-Level cap has been increased to Level 120

-Physics will be power by Havok

-Bioware has spent an enormous time on facial animations and charater movement animations, so expect animation quality to be at the very top.

-BioWare is using the Unreal Engnine 3 for graphics, with many custom changes made, graphics will be better than in Gears of War 2

-Water is confirmed to have fluid simulation, also, if a player or NPC dies on water, the players body will slowly sink, this also applies to weapons and certain objects

-The Game Over sequence has been reduced to 1.78 Seconds, due to complains from fans over the long Game Over sequence in Mass Effect

-Mass Effect 2 will have up to 5-player CO-OP, depending on the host players decision of how many players will be able to assist him/her

-There will be a Multiplayer component called Survival, where players will crash on a planet and battle to survive against endless hordes of enemies, the score will be determined on how many enemies will be killed and how much time players will be able to survive, there is no end to this mode, it's a very similar mode to Gears of War 2's Horde.

-Armor has to be repaired, armor will also react to different weapons,
bullets will damage it, fire will melt it, ice will freeze it,...

-The player can now lead a squad of 2-5 members, the player decides how many squad members will be on each mission

-The Citadel is now much larger, and whenever a player visits the Citadel all members of the players squad go with him/her, the squad will interact with other NPC's if you allow them to

-Battles wil be on a much larger scale, reported scale is the same as in Gears of War 2

-There will 2 more classes added to the aditional classes from the first game

-The Galaxy has been expanded, you can now explore 8 times more planets than in Mass Effect, also, every planet now has a bigger scale, players will be able to set up small bases on planets with a sustainable atmosphere

-The player will be able to create mines near resources and send resources to Earth or by the decision of the player mine illegaly and collect all resources for him/her self

-Weapons can be upgraded and customized, the weapon arsenal has been expanded, the player can now carry a bionic arm on each arm, the player can dual wield not just pistols, but also shotguns and semi-automatic weapons

-One new weapon is called "The Scilary", it's a missile based weapon, the player marks a targed on the ground and then shoots a missile into the air, the missile is then split into multiple pieces and hits the target and an area around it

-The player can now equip a knife, the knife can be customized and upgraded, the knife can also be used with different powers, i.e. the knife can be thrown and then brought back, the knife will also react to environment hazards, i.e. a knife over fire will cause it to catch fire and eventually melt

-There will be Boss Battles in the game

-Depending on the decision made by the player on Noveria to either spare or kill the Rachni, they will assist you during a crucial time or you will be left alone

-Preston Watamaniuk, the Lead Designer hints at more and larger environment hazards,
for example a volcano erruption than can destroy a base built by the player, another example is an ice storm of different colors, dependning on the planets atmosphere

-The primary planetary exploration vehicle can now be upgraded and customized,
it can also be expanded to carry up to 4 members of your squad

-The armor can now be upgraded and customized to the players liking, similar to the weapon customization, the player can now select a certain part of the armor, i.e. the left shoulder and put a small picture on it, i.e. the Earth's flag

-The second mission will be to save a squad member that was believed to be dead in Mass Effect, depending on the decision made on planet Virmire (the cloning facility mission), you will have to rescue the squad member left behind,
the story will explain how the squad member survived the detonation

-Planet Eden Prime can now be visited, explored and the player can now build his own house on the planet, same with many other planets

-The total number of interactive NPC's you can talk to is around 3000,
total number of NPC's in Mass Effect 2 is unknown

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti...atures;title;2

UPDATE: The link doesn't work anymore, looks like Gamespot took it down,
good thing I copied the article to the notepad

Sounds too good to be true IMHO. Mass Effect is among my all time favorites and I can't wait to return to the ME universe.

NoName
10-01-2008, 07:53 AM
Well... crap. I need to play Mass Effects again to get a character ready to import into Mass Effects 2. I never got the assault rifle unlocked for all characters, need to do that!

LarsenNET
10-01-2008, 07:54 AM
Sounds great, I'm looking forward to starting Mass Effect. It's near the top of my list.

DoctorFinger
10-01-2008, 07:55 AM
It's just detailed enough to ring true to me. Hope it's true

Mastergeo7
10-01-2008, 07:59 AM
I love the 6 months console exclusivity :D

blair
10-01-2008, 08:06 AM
The story will not continue depending on the last decision made by the player in Mass Effect, it will however continue after the PC version ending
I'm not quite sure how i feel about this one. Having only played the 360 version, i've got to ask: What was the pc version ending?

I'm not sure i believe the post. Sure, I'd like an extra dose of epic in my mass effect 2. But somehow this smells fishy.

Blue
10-01-2008, 08:09 AM
I keep going back and forth on my personal GOTY. The atmosphere and story in Bioshock was amazing but there's just something about Mass Effect that keeps luring me back. I wanted ME2 a month ago, but I'm glad to see that it (hopefully) has a release date. Great news.

Mastergeo7
10-01-2008, 08:10 AM
I'm not quite sure how i feel about this one. Having only played the 360 version, I've got to ask: What was the PC version ending?


It had the same endings, they'll choose the one that suits the plot the most.

Goronmon
10-01-2008, 08:12 AM
I started playing ME again last weekend, and man, that game is still as awesome as ever. Cannot wait for the second iteration.

atrus20
10-01-2008, 08:18 AM
Reading this makes me want to create a new character and go through Mass Effect again. I can't wait.

Gerbs
10-01-2008, 08:20 AM
This list sounds like total BS to me. 5 player co-op? A knife? Saving dead squad members from ME 1? Guess we'll have to wait and see...

Suave Peanut
10-01-2008, 08:23 AM
Five-player co-op might sell me on this franchise.

Wait... did the first one have co-op? Maybe I'm already missing out.

Blue
10-01-2008, 08:25 AM
Five-player co-op might sell me on this franchise.

Wait... did the first one have co-op? Maybe I'm already missing out.

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure it didn't. If it does, I need to get some people over to my house ASAP.

blair
10-01-2008, 08:25 AM
Five-player co-op might sell me on this franchise.

Wait... did the first one have co-op? Maybe I'm already missing out.

No, it didn't (Or it totally missed it). But get it anyway, it's a great game.

Suave Peanut
10-01-2008, 08:27 AM
No, it didn't (Or it totally missed it). But get it anyway, it's a great game.
I tried Mass Effect for a little while, at least two hours, but I just couldn't get into it. That said, I was never that into other BioWare games either... but if I could play it simultaneously with friends, it might make it somewhat of a more substantial experience for me.

Karak
10-01-2008, 08:50 AM
Well it's obviously put together from aspects of a couple other press annoucements from other games. So the change that all that stuff will happen is probably 0.
HOWEVER, who cares? It's going to be excellent.

muddi900
10-01-2008, 09:02 AM
Does it say the 360 version would still be a clip-show? How can they actually make graphics better if the first one wasn't even running at 30fps?

Seriously, PC version of Mass Effect is THE definitive version. After that, the 360 version seems unplayable. And no, I'm not a PC gamer exclusively, but if you have tried both, you'll know what I'm talking about.

bean
10-01-2008, 09:03 AM
I love the 6 months console exclusivity :D

Could just mean it is going to PC again, but by fall 2009, I think the console war will be over for most gamers. If Sony doesn't have the PS3 down to $200-250 by then, I'll be surprised. Meanwhile, is there anyone on this gamer website that isn't picking up an Xbox 360 now that they are only $200?

itchyeyes
10-01-2008, 09:05 AM
The story will not continue depending on the last decision made by the player in Mass Effect, it will however continue after the PC version ending
The PC version had a different ending?

Goronmon
10-01-2008, 09:08 AM
Well it's obviously put together from aspects of a couple other press annoucements from other games. So the change that all that stuff will happen is probably 0.Yeah, the source on this information seems to be non-existant.

Vandabo
10-01-2008, 09:20 AM
After the issues the 360 version had, I am much more inclined to wait for the PC version of this. It will be hard to wait though, as I really enjoyed the first one.

Iron Past
10-01-2008, 10:13 AM
Could just mean it is going to PC again, but by fall 2009, I think the console war will be over for most gamers. If Sony doesn't have the PS3 down to $200-250 by then, I'll be surprised. Meanwhile, is there anyone on this gamer website that isn't picking up an Xbox 360 now that they are only $200?

It does refer to the PC, at least in the world of the source. The top says the platforms are PC and 360.

I'd love it if it were all true, but I don't know. Parts of it sound much more plausible than others. I've been waiting for the dash update before popping this back in (still want that badass gamer pic), but I might give in a little early.

Vyzov
10-01-2008, 10:21 AM
Huh, if this is true, I'm really not liking alot of these changes. This actually makes me want the game alot less.

Virtual Machine
10-01-2008, 01:21 PM
I'm Fox on this one (IE: "I WANT to believe!")

But too much of that list just sounds like interweb want-list fabrication.

I for one would rather a purely single player experience like the first game - co-op/multiplayer play = weaker narrative.

muddi900
10-01-2008, 01:33 PM
After the issues the 360 version had, I am much more inclined to wait for the PC version of this. It will be hard to wait though, as I really enjoyed the first one.

I was shocked at how good it was. I couldn't believe it's a port.

Mdot
10-01-2008, 02:12 PM
Sounds awesome if true. Glad they're sticking with the plan of continuing your character from the previous game. Also, that "Game Over" screen fix is small but extremely welcome.

Codicier
10-01-2008, 04:56 PM
Put me in the skeptic camp. A lot of those details sound pretty wishful to me. Especially the multiplayer aspect.

fishinBULL
10-01-2008, 06:21 PM
I'm very excited about this game. I hope this is true.

pomeroy
10-01-2008, 06:24 PM
But what about the elevators? How long are they going to be this time?

JRR006
10-01-2008, 06:33 PM
Skeptical but hopeful. I think the "five player co-op" is the most difficult to swallow. The stuff about different planetary atmospheres sounds likely. If I recall correctly it was intended but never implemented in ME1, and there were vestiges of it in armor descriptions and the like that were essentially meaningless?

Why would I want a house? Do I not have the Normandy at my disposal? Can I keep Kaidan there? How about the Consort?

Edit: You know what I really want to do in ME2? Visit and explore Earth.

J3DI
10-05-2008, 08:54 AM
All this means to me is that I have another year to finish Mass Effect 1... I know, shame on me :(

That Darn Kat
10-05-2008, 05:46 PM
It would be fantastic if this was all true. I'm especially excited about the improved facial expressions. That was one of my major complaints with the first game. Which I haven't finished yet either. =x

Tel Prydain
10-05-2008, 07:36 PM
Seems like claptrap to me. The whole party travels at once? 5-player Co-op? A knife? All sound outright silly.
Worse yet, the claim that it will follow the PC ending.... which is dumb, cause the PC endings were the same.

Kielaran
10-05-2008, 07:44 PM
Seems like claptrap to me. The whole party travels at once? 5-player Co-op? A knife? All sound outright silly.
Worse yet, the claim that it will follow the PC ending.... which is dumb, cause the PC endings were the same.

Agreed. Plus a lot of the stuff seemed odd as opposed to good, like the whole fire melts armor, telekenetic knife throwing, and missle launcher. Nifty, well kinda, realistic, not really. And with no live links whatsoever, I would rate this rumor at best.

Deadend
10-05-2008, 08:35 PM
All this means to me is that I have another year to finish Mass Effect 1... I know, shame on me :(

You can do it in 10 hours, just skip the side planets.

The part about repairing items as they get damaged... no thank you sir. I just don't see how spending time and effort to repair items is FUN. So I open a menu up, scroll down to items, hit Y to repair, dialog window opens "Are you sure you want to use omni gel to repair?" Yes! SO MUCH FUN.

I kind of like the idea of being able to spec a character for CQC melee, but that is pretty much what the shotgun was for. The bionic arms also seem odd.

The part that does ring true is 28 months to make, as Nov 2009 seems likely.

I just want to know what to do next with the threat of a full invasion of Reavers coming, and the effects of the ending of ME1.

Expugnare
10-05-2008, 08:44 PM
The thing that really got me was the dual wielding shotguns and rifles. That is just retarded.

Whunpo
10-05-2008, 08:45 PM
That sounds pretty awesome, but there are some things I would like fixed with Mass Effect 1 before I see some of those updates. If they can do both, then all the better. But I doubt they will.

Johan
10-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Mass Effect is among my all time favorites and I can't wait to return to the ME universe.

A really, really fun game. I'm just shy of finishing a third play-through, and I had a blast through both completions. Great game. I want to know where the story goes next, big time.

VerseD
10-06-2008, 12:33 AM
The Citadel is now much larger, and whenever a player visits the Citadel all members of the players squad go with him/her, the squad will interact with other NPC's if you allow them to

This sounds like the classic party banter from the Baldur's Gate series, which has been lost since. Still, the source for all this information is pretty dubious. I'll wait for an official announcement before I start counting down the days.

famistu
10-07-2008, 04:04 PM
for mi this list is no true ore we gone wait X years <Xx>

Goronmon
10-07-2008, 04:05 PM
for mi this list is no true ore we gone wait X years <Xx>Oh my god. What is this?

PanicBomb!
10-07-2008, 04:36 PM
I so very much wanted to love this game, but goddamn the moon rover sections were annoying. You could strip away this whole list of improvements and replace it with "The Mako has been removed. In it's place will be a peripheral device that launches a spring loaded boxing glove squarely into your genitals" and I will be stoked.

JayK47
10-07-2008, 04:42 PM
Promises promises promises. Better graphics that Gears 2? Really? And if it isn't, will I get the game for free? This looks like a long list of BS to me, and I am a fan of Mass Effect. Honestly though, by time I was on my 3rd play though, the lacking parts of the game really started to get to me. I hope this time they can do more with all planets, rather than the same rocky planets with a different skin BS they have now. I was thinking the DLC would have a unique planet, but again, the same rocky plain planet with the same old cut and paste facilities with the only exception being the main base. With that huge list of promises to be broken, I'm sure this won't make the 360. More like the 720.

Tel Prydain
10-07-2008, 06:33 PM
Now I think about it... Level cap changed from 60 to 150?
How much better can push/lift be?

I can't believe Bioware would just lift the level-cap when some skills and items clearly have reached their cap. Weapons and skills can't get much better without becoming silly.


I still think that ME2 will cast you as Shepard's child/student and carry over your choices without carrying over the specific character.

bean
10-07-2008, 10:47 PM
Now I think about it... Level cap changed from 60 to 150?
How much better can push/lift be?

This is true. Even if they introduce new skills, there are only so many you can have loaded up at a time that are easily available and my biotics guy felt freaking awesome by the end of the game.
I still think that ME2 will cast you as Shepard's child/student and carry over your choices without carrying over the specific character.
I disagree with you here. The story very clearly has unfinished business for these characters.

Crowe
10-07-2008, 11:18 PM
That was definitely the impression I received. Sheppard's story is only just beginning by the look of it, and I hope that's the way it is.

Expugnare
10-07-2008, 11:24 PM
I think the next one will be Sheppard with few to none of the original squad going on the offensive this time, trying to destroy the geth once and for all.

Khrymsyn
10-08-2008, 12:35 PM
I think the next one will be Sheppard with few to none of the original squad going on the offensive this time, trying to destroy the geth once and for all.

Bzzzt. I can almost garuntee Carth O'Nassi... or whatever the heck he's called in ME now, will be back.

Bioware love that dude.
=)

TrackZero
10-14-2008, 01:33 AM
Not sure how anyone could take this as anything other than fake after reading:

-Water is confirmed to have fluid simulation, also, if a player or NPC dies on water, the players body will slowly sink, this also applies to weapons and certain objects

-The Game Over sequence has been reduced to 1.78 Seconds, due to complains from fans over the long Game Over sequence in Mass Effect

Yeah, 'nuff said.

JRR006
10-14-2008, 01:57 AM
Bzzzt. I can almost garuntee Carth O'Nassi... or whatever the heck he's called in ME now, will be back.

Bioware love that dude.
=)

I love that dude, so I hope he's back. Can my male Shepherd bag him this time around, please, Bioware? As it was he had to be celebate because Kaidan won't give you a second glance if you don't have tits.

Garrus, I want Garrus back too. And Wrex, and Liara. Ashley can die in a fire. I never paid Tali much attention.

Anyway, I'm utterly convinced this is fake, but I'm desperate for any news on ME2.

MalReynolds
10-14-2008, 05:50 AM
Come on mass effect

MalReynolds
10-14-2008, 05:51 AM
COME ON me wants more MASS EFFECT


edit Oops ...

King3567
10-14-2008, 03:22 PM
Mass Effect was good, but overrated. After a four or five days I was done with it. Th campaign was too short and obviously didn't fill in its lofty ambitions. The sidequests were uninteresting and almost non-existent. I loved the story and the lore though.

MalReynolds
10-14-2008, 03:26 PM
i think bioware was a little limited in what they could do on the 360 compared to the PC version they did cut a good bit ... that i hear of

Expugnare
10-14-2008, 06:26 PM
Bzzzt. I can almost garuntee Carth O'Nassi... or whatever the heck he's called in ME now, will be back.

Bioware love that dude.
=)

I think most of the original squad will still be in the game as NPCs but not part of the squad. Such as Garrus becoming a Specter for himself and maybe assisting you on a mission or something. I really don't see playing the same people again in the next game.

Tel Prydain
10-20-2008, 06:30 PM
The story very clearly has unfinished business for these characters.
Prehaps: but that doesn't mean Shepard has to wrap that business up. They can all still be in ME2 as NPCs... and in many ways being NPCs might make their stories easier to tell.
Imagine find Tali on her home ship. Or finding clues on destroyed ships, try to find out what happend to her.
Hell, I imagine Shepard being your main hub, like the Counsel was.

The Reapers have fucked right off to dark Space, so I could even see Shepard's persuit of them as being seen as crazy.
Imagine: Shepard a washed out hero. And you, a young faced recruit flying the Normandy - now an outdated tub compared to the new stuff (prehaps reverse engineered from the Reaper's remains). The reapers return, and it's up to you to track down the former heroes and lead the fight to defend the station once again.

MalReynolds
10-20-2008, 06:43 PM
I just wants another Mass Effect

JayK47
10-20-2008, 07:32 PM
Sounds like a great game. Too bad Mass Effect 2 won't be anything like it. I should dedicate a gaming site that compares all previews of a game to the actual game you get at retail. But I'm too busy playing the edited and cut retail version to do it;)

Promises promises promises. Lets see if they can deliver. They really need to do much more with Mass Effect 2 to keep me interested in the franchise.

Schnoogs
10-20-2008, 07:38 PM
Nov 2009!!?!?!?!?

I guess I was in denial that it was coming out this spring.

(puts knife to wrist)

Vyzov
10-20-2008, 08:29 PM
I still think that ME2 will cast you as Shepard's child/student and carry over your choices without carrying over the specific character.

Didn't they already say a long while back that you will be able to play as your existing character in the second game? I remember hearing about this when the trilogy was announced or some point after release of the first game that you would be able to start a playthrough of ME2 with your existing character.

Loki
10-20-2008, 08:42 PM
I just hope that vehicle parts are handled better. I hated the Mako.

yeti
10-20-2008, 08:55 PM
This thread reminds me I must go buy the second ME novel tomorrow.

Come on ME2: Massier Effects.

KingGorilla
10-20-2008, 09:25 PM
I just hope that vehicle parts are handled better. I hated the Mako.

I can only think that they focus tested at a home for differently gifted youths who REALLY liked the vehicle sections in Jade Empire, to put that in.

Gerbs
10-20-2008, 10:34 PM
This thread reminds me I must go buy the second ME novel tomorrow.

Come on ME2: Massier Effects.

There is a second ME novel? :confused:

Tel Prydain
10-20-2008, 10:37 PM
Didn't they already say a long while back that you will be able to play as your existing character in the second game?
Haven't seen anything in those words, only that your choices carry over.

Karak
10-20-2008, 10:40 PM
Haven't seen anything in those words, only that your choices carry over.

Actually in a video interview in 2007 Feb they stated this. Gametrailers I think. They said the save game moved forward.
From what I hear all that is canceled.

KamaItachi
10-20-2008, 11:16 PM
Actually in a video interview in 2007 Feb they stated this. Gametrailers I think. They said the save game moved forward.
From what I hear all that is canceled.

I would prefer an option ala KotoR 2, where you have a dialogue explaining what happened in the original Mass Effect. That way you can make an impact on the second game depending on what you did, without the need to replay the first or saving several combinations of choices to see how things panned out.

Telefrog
10-21-2008, 07:48 AM
I would prefer an option ala KotoR 2, where you have a dialogue explaining what happened in the original Mass Effect. That way you can make an impact on the second game depending on what you did, without the need to replay the first or saving several combinations of choices to see how things panned out.

If it is going to the PS3 eventually, then it will have to be an arrangement similar to this. They never got to play the first Mass Effect, so it would be unfair to let everyone else get a headstart.

Goronmon
10-21-2008, 07:50 AM
I just hope that vehicle parts are handled better. I hated the Mako.Shut your mouth. The Mako is awesome!

carnage11
12-07-2008, 05:59 PM
Editor's Note - Spam links removed

lmao....ummmm.....ok.:p

Codicier
12-07-2008, 06:29 PM
what the hell is it about this site that draws the bots?

Suave Peanut
12-07-2008, 06:59 PM
epic captcha fail!

tombofsoldier
12-07-2008, 07:11 PM
Sounds dubious at best. What's the point of transferring your character if your decisions don't carry over? Level cap of 120... really? 5 player co-op, 8 times as many planets, better graphics than Gears 2? I call bullshit on 90% of this.

Also: lol at the knife. Seriously if anyone expected this to be more than a joke post after reading that you need your head examined.

Gerbs
12-07-2008, 07:15 PM
Honestly who hasn't seen Ms. Lohan's pussy by now?

Stoke
12-07-2008, 07:20 PM
How does a month and a half old topic about Mass Effect attract spam like that?

KamaItachi
12-07-2008, 07:43 PM
what the hell is it about this site that draws the bots?

I don't know, but I for one am saddened that I had never heard of upskirt news before today.

Codicier
12-07-2008, 07:50 PM
I don't know, but I for one am saddened that I had never heard of upskirt news before today.

Well we don't want anyone else to suffer. Can I request that WaydayMoidoedn's post be moved to News?

DoctorFinger
12-07-2008, 07:57 PM
Ok, from now on, could you try NOT to quote the spam links? I just have to edit it out of your posts, too. ;)

carnage11
12-07-2008, 10:48 PM
Ok, from now on, could you try NOT to quote the spam links? I just have to edit it out of your posts, too. ;)

Sorry about that mate. I don't mind you editing my posts though....just be gentle. :p

JayVe
12-08-2008, 07:44 AM
Soo excited for this news. I recently got the expansion pack for the 360 version and loved every moment of it.

carnage11
12-08-2008, 02:35 PM
nice.....



....and banned in....3....2.....1....

Stoke
12-08-2008, 02:49 PM
nice.....



....and banned in....3....2.....1....

Wait, there was another one?

carnage11
12-08-2008, 09:44 PM
Wait, there was another one?

lmao, yeah. at least they're sticking to this old thread.:p

Dukefrukem
12-08-2008, 11:02 PM
what the hell, i was expecting new news... where is it?

KingGorilla
12-08-2008, 11:41 PM
I will say this again. With the great draw distances and vistas that The Witcher achieves in the Aurora Engine(made by Bioware), why are they stuck on UE3, which is horrible for rendering anything more complex than the inside of a cardboard box, like say a large city? Was it a two game contract?

carnage11
12-09-2008, 12:06 AM
I will say this again. With the great draw distances and vistas that The Witcher achieves in the Aurora Engine(made by Bioware), why are they stuck on UE3, which is horrible for rendering anything more complex than the inside of a cardboard box, like say a large city? Was it a two game contract?


I thought the game looked beautiful. Including the Citadel. I think maybe they were going for a more simplified futuristic look which UE3 does well. The Witcher is much more detailed and old, weathered looking. Elder Scrolls would be a good candidate for Aurora IMO. Or more so the updated Eclipse Engine.

TrackZero
12-09-2008, 10:53 AM
I will say this again. With the great draw distances and vistas that The Witcher achieves in the Aurora Engine(made by Bioware), why are they stuck on UE3, which is horrible for rendering anything more complex than the inside of a cardboard box, like say a large city? Was it a two game contract?

Someone hasn't played GoW2.

neilthecellist
12-10-2008, 12:52 PM
I hate people who bull****. Why can't they just put 3 minutes aside to do some research before they post and look like the thread-idiot?

Gears of War 2 runs on an updated version of Unreal Engine 3. It supports mass-crowds of pawns at one time (e.g. Hitman 4, you could walk through a crowd of a hundred people), and normal mapping on the Material channels for textures are now capable of rendering at longer distances.

Go on Gametrailers to watch the tech demo for the latest Unreal Engine 3.

Or just go play Gears of War 2.

Blue
12-12-2008, 06:19 PM
I think it's odd how many bots we're getting. I'm also just going to throw it out there that "neilthecellist" is also a bot because most bots have a douche mode. And his switch appears to be on.

carnage11
12-12-2008, 11:28 PM
I think it's odd how many bots we're getting. I'm also just going to throw it out there that "neilthecellist" is also a bot because most bots have a douche mode. And his switch appears to be on.

Nah.....he's a cellist. They're all douches. Except for those bad ass mother fuckers in Apocalyptica!

Gerbs
12-13-2008, 01:57 AM
I hate people who bull****. Why can't they just put 3 minutes aside to do some research before they post and look like the thread-idiot?

Welcome to CoG!

Disgustipated
12-13-2008, 04:58 AM
I hate people who bull****. Why can't they just put 3 minutes aside to do some research before they post and look like the thread-idiot?

Gears of War 2 runs on an updated version of Unreal Engine 3. It supports mass-crowds of pawns at one time (e.g. Hitman 4, you could walk through a crowd of a hundred people), and normal mapping on the Material channels for textures are now capable of rendering at longer distances.

Go on Gametrailers to watch the tech demo for the latest Unreal Engine 3.

Or just go play Gears of War 2.

That's KingGorilla for you. He'll assume things and spout it off like it's fact. It's pretty awesome.

thomas
12-13-2008, 05:46 AM
normal mapping on the Material channels for textures are now capable of rendering at longer distances.
I believe the quote below sums my thoughts about this statement...
I hate people who bull****. Why can't they just put 3 minutes aside to do some research before they post and look like the thread-idiot?

BTW, welcome to CoG.

H.Bogard
12-13-2008, 06:02 AM
I hate people who bull****. Why can't they just put 3 minutes aside to do some research before they post and look like the thread-idiot?

Gears of War 2 runs on an updated version of Unreal Engine 3. It supports mass-crowds of pawns at one time (e.g. Hitman 4, you could walk through a crowd of a hundred people), and normal mapping on the Material channels for textures are now capable of rendering at longer distances.

Go on Gametrailers to watch the tech demo for the latest Unreal Engine 3.

Or just go play Gears of War 2.

Watch out people! Internet-superhero with gametrailers research is gonna zap you with his lasers!

Blue
12-13-2008, 06:38 AM
Nah.....he's a cellist. They're all douches. Except for those bad ass mother fuckers in Apocalyptica!

That's exactly what this site needs. Not more cowbell. More Apocalyptica.

Wentmoifinorfd
12-15-2008, 05:21 AM
http://www.colonyofgamers.com/images/thor-banhammer-1-sm%20copy.jpg

Kojak
12-15-2008, 06:12 AM
How come advertising spam seems to effect this thread and this thread alone?

Oh that actually links to a porn site of some sort...someone should edit that up after I bookmark it.

cos you know...porn is really hard to find on the internet. I search for something and all i get is business journals.

Narradisall
12-15-2008, 06:52 AM
lol at all the sex spam in this thread.

See, SEE! The news people were right, Mass Effect is a sex simulator for the children,

WHY WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Back on topic, this has got me playing mass effect again. I was making up a character to port to the second until this thread ruined it by telling me they are doing away with this feature, they did mention to keep you ME1 saves. Alas!

God I forgot how much fun this game was, some of the options in dialoge are just hilarious.

Talon
12-15-2008, 12:08 PM
Anyways...ignoring the UE3 bickering...

If Mass Effect 2 doesn't run at a consistent frame rate, I'm not going to give it a second look. Now, I absolutely loved Mass Effect, but I don't know if I can tolerate the 10 FPS drops in a second game when taking on a dozen+ enemies. Hopefully, the resources of the mothership (EA) will take care of the technical aspects of ME2.

Honestly, am I the only one that prefers consistent framerate over tremendous textures?

Superman's Dead
12-15-2008, 01:06 PM
Honestly, am I the only one that prefers consistent framerate over tremendous textures?

If the framerate drops don't spell death for my character? I'm cool with it. It even feels like a Matrix-esque slowmotion if you pull of an awesome Lift or Throw. =)

LarsenNET
12-15-2008, 01:13 PM
I just played and finished ME Thursday & Friday. Texture pop was a bit alarming. I thought the story was good but the game play was just ok. I did virtually none of the side quests, I just wanted to see how it ended. I'm not sure if I'll get ME2. The Mako needs to go away permanently.

Talon
12-15-2008, 01:16 PM
I just played and finished ME Thursday & Friday. Texture pop was a bit alarming. I thought the story was good but the game play was just ok. I did virtually none of the side quests, I just wanted to see how it ended. I'm not sure if I'll get ME2. The Mako needs to go away permanently.

By gameplay, do you mean you hated the exploration aspect or the combat?

For me, the gameplay is really what kept me going, although the Mako tried to derail my hopes and dreams at every stop. I wanted to continue the main quest because the missions were so much more enjoyable than the rest of the game.

JayVe
12-16-2008, 09:00 AM
Honestly, am I the only one that prefers consistent framerate over tremendous textures?

Depends on the game. Mass Effect wasn't a super-duper twitchfest, so I can put up with dodgy framerates. Overall though, I'll take framerates over texture resolution or screen resolution any day.

Edit: Oh, I love the Mako.

Virtual Machine
12-16-2008, 09:45 AM
I love the Mako as well.

Probably because i'm half insane.

Talon
12-16-2008, 09:45 AM
Edit: Oh, I love the Mako.

You are mad.

LarsenNET
12-16-2008, 09:55 AM
By gameplay, do you mean you hated the exploration aspect or the combat?


Combat, it was not very interesting. I played a soldier so it was pretty much a shooter. Exploration was fun during the main story line but I never felt like I cared about going anywhere else. I never even saw one of those Thresher maw's or whatever they are called.

Talon
12-16-2008, 10:54 AM
Combat, it was not very interesting. I played a soldier so it was pretty much a shooter. Exploration was fun during the main story line but I never felt like I cared about going anywhere else. I never even saw one of those Thresher maw's or whatever they are called.

Really? Did you find yourself using your teammate's techs and biotics as often as possible? I found combat pretty rewarding when using a combo of lift and throw to keep people off of you while blasting them away with the shotgun. :p

Deunnero
12-16-2008, 10:59 AM
How did I miss this thread!

I am planning a ME marathon in January, so things are looking good!

I really hope co-op/multiplayer is included this time.

carnage11
12-16-2008, 11:31 AM
Really? Did you find yourself using your teammate's techs and biotics as often as possible? I found combat pretty rewarding when using a combo of lift and throw to keep people off of you while blasting them away with the shotgun. :p

On my third play through I played as an Engineer, which really forced me to rely on my teammates. It's like a completely different game. I still say Biotics was the most fun to play though.

Narradisall
12-16-2008, 12:25 PM
I'd just like to add, FUCK THE MAKO.

I hope if they do add hundreds of worlds its not the same mountains everywhere navigating on your jumpy crazy wheeled bastard of a tank.

JayVe
12-16-2008, 04:16 PM
Mako > Warthog

Yeah, I went there. :D

Gormanimal
12-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Mako > Warthog

Yeah, I went there. :D
Oh snap!

I don't see why people have such an issue with the Mako. Just equip the sniper rifle and you can zoom in and blow any enemies away before they're even close to being a concern.

Talon
12-16-2008, 04:59 PM
Oh snap!

I don't see why people have such an issue with the Mako. Just equip the sniper rifle and you can zoom in and blow any enemies away before they're even close to being a concern.

The vehicle controls like crap and reacts like a sled on ice. The vehicular combat was decidedly not fun. On top of that, the terrain you were traversing was, at times, only traversable through one select angle.

The fact that your solution for the vehicular combat is to use your own guns proves the gameplay mechanic was broken. Honestly, I usually chose to shoot at those turrets with my pistol before getting close. How silly is that?

Hyperglide
12-16-2008, 05:03 PM
Scorpion > Mako > Warthog >>>>>>> that Centaur piece of shit from GoW2.

Johan
12-16-2008, 05:56 PM
I would LOVE to take my level-59.5 character into ME2. That would be awesome.

Panthera
12-16-2008, 06:17 PM
The vehicle controls like crap and reacts like a sled on ice. The vehicular combat was decidedly not fun. On top of that, the terrain you were traversing was, at times, only traversable through one select angle.

The fact that your solution for the vehicular combat is to use your own guns proves the gameplay mechanic was broken. Honestly, I usually chose to shoot at those turrets with my pistol before getting close. How silly is that?

I think he means the sniper scope on the vehicle itself.

Narradisall
12-17-2008, 07:16 AM
The Mako was just poor, it flew all over the place and you could hit a bit of rock on the ground and it would launch into the air like a fucking rocket.

Plus if I visit worlds I won't want to see the whole thing on a raod trip. Where were the quests in other cities? Worlds with people and cultures?

No, we got a few dead worlds with fuck all and the occasional world with a ancient city on it.

Plus I never had much issue with the Gears 2 tank, it certainly drove a shit load better than the Mako.

JayVe
12-17-2008, 07:26 AM
Plus if I visit worlds I won't want to see the whole thing on a raod trip. Where were the quests in other cities? Worlds with people and cultures?

No, we got a few dead worlds with fuck all and the occasional world with a ancient city on it.

If our known universe is any indication, there are MANY more uninhabited worlds than there are inhabited worlds. Can you say, needle in a haystack?

Any way you slice it, I had a complete blast exploring strange new worlds. Would I have liked a richer experience with more strange civilizations to find and ruins to explore? You bet! I'd have also liked some trees. If you DID explore the planets in the game, you'd find a lot of little strange things: 6-legged cows and purple space monkeys. Strange pyramids left from ancient civilizations. Downed spacecraft or a platoon of murdered space marines which kick off a quest when you return to the Citadel.

So far Mass Effect made me feel like I was in a science fiction movie like no other. Perfect? No. Fucking Awesome? Hells yeah! I gotta say I enjoyed exploring the universe in Mass Effect more than I enjoyed exploring the universe in Spore... and that was FULL of civilizations.

Narradisall
12-17-2008, 07:40 AM
If only you didn't have to do it in that.....thing....

Traversing the worlds was ruined for me in some aspects when you'd get stuck down a ditch between two cliffs and have to rock your way out shifting between using the space boosters etc just to get to whatever was over the other side. Gaaaaaah!

Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed ME, enough to complete it 5 times. Still the Mako was a big period soaked runny turd in the middle of what was otherwise a good game.

Bit like the asteriod bit in Dead Space.

JayVe
12-17-2008, 07:46 AM
Bit like the asteriod bit in Dead Space.

Which I beat on my second try. I dunno what the big stink is over that either. :confused:

Narradisall
12-17-2008, 07:51 AM
Which I beat on my second try. I dunno what the big stink is over that either. :confused:

Well, firstly it was that it never explained that you could fire both cannons, I felt a bit retarded as the moment I figured that out I did it first go. I would have liked the option to aim with the left stick, I think they went with right stick due to left moving Issac.

Mainly it was the complete random difficulty generator. I've played it through on easy, medium and impossible and as far as I could tell it effected the difficulty of the asteriods only by the damage they cause. Sometimes you would have a few asteriods turn up, some play throughs I had 3-5 large spawning at the same time.

I just think it was really poorly implemented, blew the whole horror atmosphere and was one of those moments I know stopped a lot of people playing the game through, or taking a break before they went back purely because it could be so frustrating.

Which is a shame because it only got better after that!

Oh yea, and as for it being training for the boss fight, that fight was faaaar easier than the training (no, that does not imply the training was effective!).

Ah well

Nemeabonymn
12-17-2008, 02:52 PM
http://www.colonyofgamers.com/images/thor-banhammer-1-sm%20copy.jpg

carnage11
12-17-2008, 09:46 PM
...and so it continues. This thread shall now be changed to the official spam thread. lmao.

yeti
12-17-2008, 09:59 PM
What is it about bots and this tread. Dammit everytime I see its refreshed I think "yes!!! Real ME2 information!!!" Only to be let down by adverts.

On the plus side I now can visit Park City.???

carnage11
12-17-2008, 11:42 PM
amish furniture factory outlet?!?! I'm there.:cool:

floatnecladet
12-18-2008, 03:34 AM
http://www.colonyofgamers.com/images/thor-banhammer-1-sm%20copy.jpg

Kojak
12-18-2008, 03:53 AM
Yesterday I found some esses
about clothing. Maybe they will be interesting for us.

Some days ago I found a lot of esses
on styles. I think they will be usefull for this board.


Well now I'm all confused was it yesterday or some days ago, I NEED TO KNOW SO IN CASE ITS NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE...not that I know what the hell an esses is.

Picked up my copy of Mass Effect 1 today, yes I know I'm so behind the times but must say I'm enjoying it a fair amount though I seem to suck badly at the combat. Don't know why but I'm enjoying going through the game as female whilst being a total bitch.

Just a quick question...does the ending to one sort of wrap everything fairly nicely. Just hoping its not a cliffhanger otherwise I'll have to be anticipating this sequal as much as you guys...I dont want to have to be in that position.

KamaItachi
12-18-2008, 05:37 AM
Well now I'm all confused was it yesterday or some days ago, I NEED TO KNOW SO IN CASE ITS NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE...not that I know what the hell an esses is.

Picked up my copy of Mass Effect 1 today, yes I know I'm so behind the times but must say I'm enjoying it a fair amount though I seem to suck badly at the combat. Don't know why but I'm enjoying going through the game as female whilst being a total bitch.

Just a quick question...does the ending to one sort of wrap everything fairly nicely. Just hoping its not a cliffhanger otherwise I'll have to be anticipating this sequal as much as you guys...I dont want to have to be in that position.

It wraps up the story of the game well enough. Best analogy I read was that it was similar to the ending of Star Wars. It's a fairly self contained story in itself, but leaves a lot open for the sequels

Narradisall
12-18-2008, 07:11 AM
It wraps up the story of the game well enough. Best analogy I read was that it was similar to the ending of Star Wars. It's a fairly self contained story in itself, but leaves a lot open for the sequels

What he said.

It self contains rather well, doesn't end on a 'cliffhanger', but leaves the room for a sequel.

One thing that impressed me was it does run very much like a film in some aspects and really was an amazing experience.

Still fuck the Mako!

Oh and Admins, can we keep this thread running? Its the perfect bot detector!

Plus its handy to know where to get some esses and sex tapes!

Superman's Dead
12-23-2008, 01:36 PM
Well played, floatnecladet. Well played.

Grifter
12-23-2008, 01:47 PM
I so want to flirt the fad with you cuz those ribbons are bullshit but I can't help swooning over the conundrums as well, I shouldn't be to complicated if you still want to communicate at noon. Looking forward till cows, terminate you later homey.

carnage11
12-23-2008, 09:44 PM
I so want to flirt the fad with you cuz those ribbons are bullshit but I can't help swooning over the conundrums as well, I shouldn't be to complicated if you still want to communicate at noon. Looking forward till cows, terminate you later homey.

Did someone slip something into my drink? I am having a lot of trouble understanding what you're saying here.:confused:

Codicier
12-23-2008, 10:37 PM
Did someone slip something into my drink? I am having a lot of trouble understanding what you're saying here.:confused:

Joke regarding a now deleted bot post.

carnage11
12-24-2008, 12:58 AM
Joke regarding a now deleted bot post.

Damn, now I'm curious as to what it said.

Codicier
12-24-2008, 01:00 AM
Damn, now I'm curious as to what it said.

It was complete nonsense (as usual).

Grifter
12-24-2008, 01:20 AM
Damn, now I'm curious as to what it said.

It was complete nonsense (as usual).

It was complete giberish, my post made far more sense than the one I was mocking. It's like someone picked out a bunch of random Japanese words, ran them through babblefish then attempted to make English sentences with them.

carnage11
12-24-2008, 02:07 AM
ahh...I see.:D

Well I shall wait until cows terminate you at noon as well. ;)

DarkDay
12-24-2008, 02:34 AM
I love the 6 months console exclusivity :D

though it would be good to see it on the ps3, it didnt say console, it just said timed exclusive. Sad to say but chances are they mean pc.

J Arcane
12-24-2008, 02:45 AM
Anyways...ignoring the UE3 bickering...

If Mass Effect 2 doesn't run at a consistent frame rate, I'm not going to give it a second look. Now, I absolutely loved Mass Effect, but I don't know if I can tolerate the 10 FPS drops in a second game when taking on a dozen+ enemies. Hopefully, the resources of the mothership (EA) will take care of the technical aspects of ME2.

Honestly, am I the only one that prefers consistent framerate over tremendous textures?
I played it on PC, and didn't have that problem at all. Clearly you kids' newfangled console boxes are already falling behind. ;)

Oh, and the newest List entry (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=3915) is rather salient to this thread. :D

menage
12-24-2008, 10:43 AM
Anyone tried to install ME onto the drive already, does it make a difference?

I love ME but I hope future games actually take advantage of the install function to optimize them in that way.

Philonious
12-24-2008, 11:01 AM
Anyone tried to install ME onto the drive already, does it make a difference?

I love ME but I hope future games actually take advantage of the install function to optimize them in that way.

I read (somewhere) that it reduces some pop-in (not the case in Last Remnant though) but elevator rides stay the same length because they were hard-coded that way. I'd give it a shot myself but my buddy has had my copy for about a year. Jerk. Anyone know how long elevator rides were in the PC-version, I'm thinking of moving onto the PC version now that it is on Steam.

Also, is there any 'real' ME2 info available yet? I ususally just avoid this thread since the OP got discredited early on.

carnage11
12-24-2008, 03:21 PM
I read (somewhere) that it reduces some pop-in (not the case in Last Remnant though) but elevator rides stay the same length because they were hard-coded that way. I'd give it a shot myself but my buddy has had my copy for about a year. Jerk. Anyone know how long elevator rides were in the PC-version, I'm thinking of moving onto the PC version now that it is on Steam.

Also, is there any 'real' ME2 info available yet? I ususally just avoid this thread since the OP got discredited early on.

I actually heard the same thing about the loading elevator rides. They stay the same, but the pop in is less. I think that the HDD installs will be more used now that developers can make games to take advantage of it. I'm not sure if BioWare new about the new feature when they were making ME.

Church42
12-24-2008, 10:23 PM
Okay, so admittedly, I probably didn't read all 7 full previous pages thoroughly so if I missed it, I apologized but...

No one has complained yet about inventory management? My god was it awful! You accumulate so much junk and shifting gear and weapons between characters was a royal pain in the ass.

And double-fisting shotguns and ARs? I'm skeptical. A level cap of 150???

Talon
12-25-2008, 12:51 AM
Okay, so admittedly, I probably didn't read all 7 full previous pages thoroughly so if I missed it, I apologized but...

No one has complained yet about inventory management? My god was it awful! You accumulate so much junk and shifting gear and weapons between characters was a royal pain in the ass.

And double-fisting shotguns and ARs? I'm skeptical. A level cap of 150???

I don't know if we talked about it in this specific thread, but we've definitely discussed the sluggish menus, which are only made worse by Bioware's idea of inventory management in the future.

Karak
12-25-2008, 11:06 PM
Just beat Mass Effect 1 for the 3rd time about 3 hours ago.
I can not explain just how much I love that ending. I am not sure if its the "America Fuck Ya" ending or just the way it is told but damn that cheered me up.
Bring on #2

tombofsoldier
12-26-2008, 12:37 AM
I've got it installed, yes there's definitely less pop-in and faster "loading" screens, and yes the elevators are still slow.

Give me goody stuff please Bioware.

Smoof
12-26-2008, 02:41 AM
I should try to play ME more...I think I'm only about 30% of the way through, but I find it boring as fuck. Yack, yack, yack, yack, and then a shitty shooting mechanic, Gears of Mass Effect

RandoM51
12-26-2008, 03:19 AM
Sounds too good to be true IMHO. Mass Effect is among my all time favorites and I can't wait to return to the ME universe.

The original descriptions for ME were too good to be true too, game still turned out fairly well while not living up to its billing. Shame they're using UE3 again but it is the quick/easy route for them assuming the dev team hasn't changed much.

Interesting that they would mention the PC version up front, usually they hold off on that awhile to appease the platform holder(MS in this case).

menage
12-26-2008, 05:02 AM
Just beat Mass Effect 1 for the 3rd time about 3 hours ago.
I can not explain just how much I love that ending. I am not sure if its the "America Fuck Ya" ending or just the way it is told but damn that cheered me up.
Bring on #2

It reminded me of the Babylon 5 ending years ago (Shadow Wars), that probably was the best ending to a TV series ever.

n00bian
12-26-2008, 01:34 PM
It reminded me of the Babylon 5 ending years ago (Shadow Wars), that probably was the best ending to a TV series ever.

didnt the shadow wars end during season 4 of the 5 seasons?

Karak
12-26-2008, 04:56 PM
It reminded me of the Babylon 5 ending years ago (Shadow Wars), that probably was the best ending to a TV series ever.
I agree. I have rarely felt that a game tied things up that well.
Babylon 5...man I miss it.
Shadow wars was Year 4 though wasn't it? Then their was the war with Psi-core.

menage
12-26-2008, 06:28 PM
wow:D wow for short

carnage11
12-26-2008, 10:07 PM
I guess it needed to be said 4 times. Make those mods work for their money.


Or....whatever it is they work for.....glory? fame?

Doctor Setebos
12-27-2008, 10:27 AM
I guess it needed to be said 4 times. Make those mods work for their money.

Or....whatever it is they work for.....glory? fame?I work for lolcats.

Gerbs
12-27-2008, 11:04 PM
So when do you guys think we'll get some actual concrete Mass Effect 2 info? Do you think I would be too optimistic if I said I expect to play this game by the end of November 2009?

Superman's Dead
12-27-2008, 11:30 PM
So when do you guys think we'll get some actual concrete Mass Effect 2 info? Do you think I would be too optimistic if I said I expect to play this game by the end of November 2009?

Yes. They had press stuff out for Mass Effect in the...summer of 07, I think?

I remember it being really hot outside when I was at my friend's house, we watched the Force Unleashed tech demos and looked up Mass Effect.

Hg-203
01-09-2009, 09:54 AM
So when do you guys think we'll get some actual concrete Mass Effect 2 info? Do you think I would be too optimistic if I said I expect to play this game by the end of November 2009?

Arstechnica says that bioware will be showing parts of Mass Effect 2 at GDC which is in March.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2009/01/09/bioware-to-reveal-mass-effect-2-details-at-gdc?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=pingfm&utm_term=main_ars_account&utm_campaign=microblogging

Dukefrukem
01-09-2009, 10:30 AM
is there any REAL ME2 info in here?

bean
01-09-2009, 10:57 AM
Do a google search of Colony of Gamers and this is the post that comes up under the official site's main heading. For this reason, it gets the most automated spammers.

Karak
01-09-2009, 11:05 AM
Arstechnica says that bioware will be showing parts of Mass Effect 2 at GDC which is in March.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2009/01/09/bioware-to-reveal-mass-effect-2-details-at-gdc?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=pingfm&utm_term=main_ars_account&utm_campaign=microblogging

From some of the descriptions it also looks like they will show how they learned from the bad art design on the side missions. This is a good goal.
But I still want
1 A fully functioning captians room with items to read, perhaps a mp3 system to listen to music and the ability to go over crew information
2 People moving around the ship. Damn everyone was in the same place the entire game
3 Landing on gas giants and other planets. The mako can go in water have it go in fucking water.

Gerbs
01-09-2009, 07:58 PM
Arstechnica says that bioware will be showing parts of Mass Effect 2 at GDC which is in March.
http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2009/01/09/bioware-to-reveal-mass-effect-2-details-at-gdc?utm_source=microblogging&utm_medium=pingfm&utm_term=main_ars_account&utm_campaign=microblogging

Come March let's start a new thread and bury this one. I hope to play ME2 this year.