The Who's Matt Episode [Archive]

fishbang

01-19-2010, 11:49 AM

Find out for yourself at the following link (http://ingamechat.net/audio/IGC20100114.mp3).

Our second experimental studio session is bottled and capped. We've made a sole significant change for this episode and it's time for the feedback to do its job. More or less reverb? Are we at all in agreement on who's coming in too hot? Is the new studio responsible for how terrible I've been to Matt? Or to Darksiders? I swear it's all for show.

Bayonetta and Darksiders are, together, a fine enough way to start the new decade, despite how little regard some of the hosts may have for either one. There's ample good will for these games in the community, but there's a sense that we're foot-tapping with these two, waiting on delivery of the real goods. Probably that's just me.

TrackZero

01-19-2010, 01:12 PM

There's ample good will for these games in the community, but there's a sense that we're foot-tapping with these two, waiting on delivery of the real goods. Probably that's just me.

It's just you, but that's alright. ;)

Doogie2K

01-19-2010, 04:56 PM

Ah, I can see why you had filename issues. Fucking apostrophes.

Now imagine having an apostrophe in your address. You wouldn't think it would be hard to get a fucking pizza delivered, but it is when you're me.

Iron Past

01-19-2010, 07:19 PM

The email I sent a couple days ago said as much, but you guys know that the Dante's Inferno book that EA is sponsoring is the actual Longfellow translation of the poem, right? It has some extra stuff (foreword, artwork), and I'm using that as an excuse to pick it up and read through it, since I've never done so before.

Recording sounds worlds better, aside from some small issues with how loud some people are coming in still. When I have it cranked up and you guys break into laughter, my ears want to explode. :)

Edit: Clarification, I was going to pick up Dante's Inferno anyway, at the very least to compare to the game, but the extra stuff pushed me to order that edition (online, since I couldn't find a single brick and mortar store in town that had it in stock).

TrackZero

01-19-2010, 08:27 PM

LMFAO. Wasn't serious about who the hell is Matt. ;) Meant as it for an opener so you could re-introduce new listeners who didn't know him. Glad it was a laugh for you guys though.

nabokovfan87

01-19-2010, 08:37 PM

FYI, the account/games arent tied to your hardware, well... they are, but hacking the xbox is not how you go about fixing things. here is what you are looking for (and dont ask why i know this, it was a bad week and bad things happened...).

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/licensemigration/faq.htm

M$ refers to this as different then "account migration" which is when you move your account from an ORIGINAL xbox to a new 360, so yeah... there ya go.

-nabokovfan87

p.s. im STILL in talks with sony to get my games unlocked for my slim. that started the 26th of december.

EDIT: Matt, steam didnt mess up. you probably didnt see it. go through. zeno thing was a free trial for the weekend and it should not have charged you. to see what is purchased and not log-in steam and on the top right of the store tab you can view my account. scroll down.

to install torchlight, go to my games and scroll down.

Straximus

01-19-2010, 10:32 PM

FYI, the account/games arent tied to your hardware, well... they are, but hacking the xbox is not how you go about fixing things.

We were talking about the DVD drive being tied to the hardware. You can't swap a working DVD drive into a 360 with a busted one w/o hacking the firmware.

Gerbs

01-19-2010, 10:49 PM

Who is tapping on a mobile device's keypad? I CAN HEAR YOU!!! Could be a laptop. Maybe for robot porn.

Straximus

01-19-2010, 10:59 PM

Who is tapping on a mobile device's keypad? I CAN HEAR YOU!!! Could be a laptop. Maybe for robot porn.

Pregnant robot porn.

Cavalier

01-20-2010, 01:50 AM

Bayonetta scares me, saw an advert for the strategy guide on eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/bayonetta-game-guide-strategy-video), talks about taking no damage for the entire game.

Maybe I'm getting too old for this shit :)

Iron Past

01-20-2010, 10:13 AM

Oh ho! Now that I've finished, I must defend my date thing!

See, the main argument you used was that 1980 didn't happen in the 70s, but that's a flawed argument, since we're not talking about the same thing. 80s, 90s, etc is reference to a period of time (denoted by name), not the actual measurement of that time. 1980 did happen in the 197th decade.

Also, it doesn't matter when the Gregorian calender was implemented, but how it tracks the passage of time. According to that, it went from year 1 BC (or BCE, if you prefer) to year 1 AD. That's fundamentally different from the way we track time of ourselves, in that we're not given an age till we reach it, but a year is named for the amount of time that will have passed at the end of it. I'm 25 years old, but this is my 26th year of life. The calender is measured off an event, in my case my birth.

Of course it's a silly and pointless argument, but I like to argue sometimes, and if you can show me that something has a recorded date of 0, I will not only concede the point, but will change my Live motto to say "fishbang is the king of the universe." Otherwise, next year I'll call in wishing you a happy new decade. ;)

PS: This is all in good fun, it hardly matters, so don't take it personal or anything. :)

Edit: I should add that I've never done actual research into the subject, so maybe I'm just totally talking out of my ass. Wouldn't be the first time. However, I do know that traditionally the Gregorian calendar doesn't have a year 0, but use of an astronomical numbering system does. Not the same thing, though.

Straximus

01-20-2010, 11:23 AM

Count Elmdor

01-20-2010, 12:29 PM

There are actually two Mass Effect books out right now. The second takes place just after the end of the first game, and is also decent. You get to see a little more about Biotics and Quarians.

edit: 2010 is not part of the decade known as the "00's." It is part of a decade, indeed an infinite number of them that one chooses to either end or begin within the year. It is not, however, and will never be a part of, any decade ending in "00" by our current popular reckoning, which is of course where most choose to draw the arbitrary line between decades.

Iron Past

01-20-2010, 12:37 PM

Astronomical year numbering is a patch to the well known "Year 0 bug" in the (deprecated) Gregorian calendar. Effects of the bug are that decades can appear to some users to begin and end a year later than they do. All users are encouraged to update immediately.

So what you're saying is, even computers think the next decade starts next year?

Seriously, though, my point was that though there are several calendars (with even the Gregorian calendar being revised, I believe), the Gregorian numbering system traditionally doesn't have a Year 0, so the next decade would start next year going by that. Of course, putting in a qualifier in that sentence shows how dumb the whole thing is anyway, so I'll drop it as long as you happily accept my Happy New Decade card next year. :p

Straximus

01-20-2010, 12:47 PM

So what you're saying is, even computers think the next decade starts next year?

Clearly not. That computers keep barfing at the beginning of years ending in 0 (2000, 2010) instead of 1 speaks to when they think new eras begin. No, the patch i mentioned is for your wetware rather than your software. ;)

Ravenlock

01-20-2010, 02:26 PM

Did your life begin the day you turned one year old?

I suspect you don't view it that way.

Neither did the millenium begin on Jan 1, 2001, or the 80's begin on Jan 1, 1981, etc etc.

(If I'm wrong and you DO believe your life began the day you turned one year old, accept my apologies and I withdraw my argument.) ;)

tacitus

01-20-2010, 02:27 PM

The AD business in fact very arbitrary; AD was not used until like about 532 AD, before that time Rome used AUC - which was the count of years since the founding of Rome.

lucklesswonder

01-21-2010, 02:13 PM

Did your life begin the day you turned one year old?

I suspect you don't view it that way.

Actually, some cultures do view it that way, inasmuch as when you are born, you are considered 1 year old.

My personal take on the new millenium is that it started in 2001. Our calendar started the new era in AD/CE/whatever-you-are-comfortable-with 1. 1-2000 is only 1,999 years, so by definition is not two millenia. Similarly, I think the new decade starts next year. 01-10 is one decade. 11-20 will be the next.

But really. I think this stick is about to break, and the horse ain't getting any deader. Back to the Intelligent Gaming Discussion!

Wraith

01-21-2010, 02:45 PM

CappinCanuck

01-21-2010, 04:30 PM

I share the sentiments of a X-wing or Tie fighter remake... my friend and I have been splooging all over that possibility for the last two years since we heard about the Monkey Island remake. It comes up at least once every month in our gaming conversation.

I agree with James on the year notation, technically and personally.

Vigil80

01-22-2010, 01:56 AM

I suppose I'll step up and be the Star Trek Online patsy. James expected that the game would turn out poorly because of trying to do space and ground at the same time. I'm glad to say that space play seems rather well done so far, and harks back to the Starfleet Command games. That's a good thing, in case none of the IGC crew has played any of those.

Unfortunately, the ground portions are not as tight as, say, a MMO which takes place entirely on the ground. But if you only have time to get one half right before launch, starships are the half to do. I believe the game is starting from a place of strength.

Speaking of starships, whereever you recorded this time, it sounds like you're on one. There's a constant drone in the background. Nothing that really disrupts the listening experience, just something to be aware of.

So, is James channeling Triumph the Insult Dog lately? "That's a nice console... for me to pee on!"

Yes, I'm giving him a hard time here, but it seems like the only break he takes from slinging insults is to insinuate that the show is taking too long for him, and everyone should hurry up. James, before sessions, talk Dana into rubbing your shoulders while you have a cup of (long island) tea.

lucklesswonder

01-22-2010, 02:48 AM

To be fair, this is not the first time he has threatened to pee on something. And I still maintain that "I swear to God, I will pee on everything you own" is one of the greatest phrases ever uttered by human mouth.

kyrieee

01-22-2010, 07:22 AM

I thought the audio was fine. Much better than the last show

Ravenlock

01-22-2010, 09:02 AM

Agreed, audio sounded much better this time in my opinion as well.

Psykoboy2

01-22-2010, 11:19 AM

I suppose I'll step up and be the Star Trek Online patsy. James expected that the game would turn out poorly because of trying to do space and ground at the same time. I'm glad to say that space play seems rather well done so far, and harks back to the Starfleet Command games. That's a good thing, in case none of the IGC crew has played any of those.

Next episode (that we wrapped up recording last night) is where you'll hear his thoughts on that game.

Speaking of starships, whereever you recorded this time, it sounds like you're on one. There's a constant drone in the background. Nothing that really disrupts the listening experience, just something to be aware of.

Well we recorded in a brand new place for the next episode so maybe we solved that issue, just hope the echo doesn't show back up but we'll need feedback again to let us know.

I thought the audio was fine. Much better than the last show

Agreed, audio sounded much better this time in my opinion as well.

We appreciate the feedback and we'll need it again on the next episode. I think we're getting close though.

Shrinn

01-23-2010, 03:09 AM

Was that Straximus that's the lover of difficult platformers? How do you feel about I Wanna Be the Guy?

nabokovfan87

01-23-2010, 09:21 AM

We were talking about the DVD drive being tied to the hardware. You can't swap a working DVD drive into a 360 with a busted one w/o hacking the firmware.

wow.... thats effing retarted.

nabokovfan87

01-23-2010, 09:25 AM

oh, question for you all next show.

the whole crysis 2 news story came out because of a leak of the cover of the ps magazine. it seems this happens a hell of a lot more then a magazine breaking a story by surprising us all with a crazy article on our doorsteps. why do magazines even try any more, and why do pc centric magazines cover TV's, cellphones, and shit like that instead of PCs!?

fishbang

01-23-2010, 01:00 PM

So, is James channeling Triumph the Insult Dog lately? "That's a nice console... for me to pee on!"

Yes, I'm giving him a hard time here, but it seems like the only break he takes from slinging insults is to insinuate that the show is taking too long for him, and everyone should hurry up. James, before sessions, talk Dana into rubbing your shoulders while you have a cup of (long island) tea.

I know, right? All snark very honestly aside, I've been pretty far out of sorts lately, and I can't quite figure why. I'm not usually very tolerant of what I perceive as bullshit, but the past couple of weeks nearly anything will light my fuse.

Maybe because we're recording at mine and Jeremy's workplace now instead of Scott's, so work flows unchecked into the show? I don't really know, but even I recognized how pissed I was at the world during this episode. I think it's better in the next show, despite the double-broadside I poured into Bioshock 2 skepticism and Star Trek Online.

Speaking of which, I'd like to pre-emptively edit my comments regarding STO. I played it again last night and then again today after having applied the recent patches. I won't be buying it, and I hate the disconnect between the ground and space combat, but I no shit had some fun in my brief stint as captain of the USS Lollipop.

CappinCanuck

01-23-2010, 01:42 PM

Speaking of which, I'd like to pre-emptively edit my comments regarding STO. I played it again last night and then again today after having applied the recent patches. I won't be buying it, and I hate the disconnect between the ground and space combat, but I no shit had some fun in my brief stint as captain of the USS Lollipop.

Shh, any moment now, someone's going to come in here and reply that, with a thinly veiled jab, that they're happy the "hardcore/technical" people are not getting it so they can have a better online experience now. Just because you dare not like this, or whatever their flavour of the month is, you've just become one of those hardcore assholes. Welcome to the club, brotha :).

(I'm not getting it either. I found it got old very quickly. Losing any interest within a week or two during an MMOG doesn't bode well for its longevity over half to a full year.) Maybe I caught some seasonal affective disorder.

Vigil80

01-23-2010, 04:06 PM

Hey, ease off the trigger there, Canuck. Nobody's judging anybody.

Glad you had some fun with it, James. I recognize there's some problems with it, but as I've said in a couple other places, it's friggin' Star Trek. I have no choice but to buy in. Pour me some of the kool-aid, Quark.

From my perspective, it's been no worse than any other MMO experience, including WoW. Take what's good, be happy with it in the meantime, and wait for more depth and improvements to get patched in.

CappinCanuck

01-23-2010, 08:52 PM

Hey, ease off the trigger there, Canuck. Nobody's judging anybody.

Heh, who did you think I was talking about? I skipped most of the STO discussion and just read James' comment. The STO thread is enough STO discussion for me :D. My comment is related to the general douchebaggery on MMOG's developer's forums rather than anything in this thread.

Stop ruining my fun :P If I can't make fun of the fucknuts creating threads like 'STO = EPIC FAIL,' or the 'YOU JUST LOST MY MONEY (because you took the servers down for an update,' then who will? We can't let these people pervade about.

Ps. On the sound quality and such. No more echo! Still a slight hum from a fan perhaps? Very tolerable though.