Fable II Thread

[Disgustipated]

Alright ladies, who got Fable II last night? Post your impressions and let's hook up for some co-op shenanigans`.

[SilentScreams]

It's not out until Friday here. :(

My first play through will most likely be with my brother in local co-op.

[Commissar Rob]

According to Ashley - the automated and highly enthusiastic Gamespot phone bot - I can pick it up tonight at midnight...

So, being an old fart, I'll likely pick it up tomorrow after work. Tonight? Maybe some more pub games.

[Lekon]

Where did you get it last night, Disg?

[MachEnergy]

Man, I'm confused. I thought it didn't ship until the 21st....

I'm already struggling to complete Dead Space in time!! Oh woe is me :)

[Disgustipated]

Where did you get it last night, Disg?

Nowhere. I'm getting it from Gamefly! :D

[Squidbot]

The Co-Op is dreadful. But nevermind, as the single player is awesome.

[Mortis]

According to Ashley - the automated and highly enthusiastic Gamespot phone bot - I can pick it up tonight at midnight...

So, being an old fart, I'll likely pick it up tomorrow after work. Tonight? Maybe some more pub games.

Heh I got the same call, I will be picking mine up tonight though. Very excited about this game, watched a bunch of recent videos and it looks fantastic.

[Telefrog]

The Co-Op is dreadful. But nevermind, as the single player is awesome.

Why is the co-op bad? I'm really looking forward to same screen co-op in my house. What makes it dreadful?

[itchyeyes]

Pre-ordered it from Amazon, should arrive tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to this one. I spent all weekend clearing out my backlog so I can focus on it when it arrives.

[Deunnero]

I'm really looking forward to same screen co-op in my house.

So am I. The gf and I have been planning the night we get our copy since they announced co-op. Tonight we get to wrestle naked to see whose profile gets to be the "main". I think I might just lose on purpose. :D

[Grifter]

Gamefly is shipping it out to me today so I should have it by Wednesday. I can't wait to play this game, the only 360 game I am looking forward to more is Fallout 3.

[National Kato]

I'm on the 'release day' plan with Amazon. Hopefully, that means tomorrow night will be spent in Albion!

[Savok]

Should get it this week sometime.

First thing I'm doing is having a lesbian orgy.

[SilentScreams]

the only 360 game I am looking forward to more is Fallout 3.

You forgot about High School Musical!

[Lekon]

The Co-Op is dreadful. But nevermind, as the single player is awesome.

How can the Co-Op be bad for you... the online patch isn't even up yet.

[SilentScreams]

How can the Co-Op be bad for you... the online patch isn't even up yet.

It has local co-op too.

Edit: But I am still curious as to why it sucks.

[Squidbot]

Best I say no more, until after the street date.

[Sandman]

Amazon just set my order to being processed for shipping....no turning back now.

[Iron Past]

Best I say no more, until after the street date.

NDAs apparently lifted already, since I'm seeing reviews pop up (very positive, by the way). Out with it!

[Superman's Dead]

Best I say no more, until after the street date.

Those are strong words, Squid. Strong words indeed. I'm really interested to see what you have to say.

[Squidbot]

I've already stated it's my GOTY, that should tell you plenty.

[SPBTooL]

Fable reviews:
Xbox 360 Fanboy (http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/10/20/review-fable-ii/), A review with no score but full of praise.

Game Cinima HD (http://gamecinemahd.com/article/2008/10/20/fable_ii_review), 9/10. some complaints about minor pop-in and the map being to small.

IGN UK (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/921/921516p1.html), 95

Gameplayer (http://www.gameplayer.com.au/gp_documents/081020FableIIREVIEW.aspx), 95. They posted it early then pulled it.
Official Xbox Magazine, 95
Edge Magazine, 90

Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=263778), 10

[Mortis]

10/10 at Eurogamer.

[Iron Past]

Some more reviews here. (http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages4/927246.asp)

[SPBTooL]

Interesting how Eurogamer and IGN UK have completely different views on the combat.

[bapenguin]

I just posted by impressions here: http://www.co-optimus.com/article/707/10_Things_You_May_or_May_Not_Know_About_Fable_2_-_My_Impressions.html

No review yet, gonna be a bit. But if I had to score it it'd be a 5 out of 5 for sure. On a 10 point scale a 9.5 out of 10.

[SPBTooL]

arstechnica has a good review up (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/games/fable-2-review.ars) giving it a buy.

[Iron Past]

From what I've read, the dog is great, which is a releif. Well, mostly, anyway. I think one review so far said it wasn't good for much, but most are saying you develop a good relationship with it.

[Squidbot]

The dog is absolutely brilliant. You really do care for the dog, and want to look after him. Being able to buy him better abilities is great, and the squeeky ball never gets old.
He also changes depending on your actions ;)

[SPBTooL]

From what I've read, the dog is great, which is a releif. Well, mostly, anyway. I think one review so far said it wasn't good for much, but most are saying you develop a good relationship with it. Yea, like most of the game I think it comes down to how you play with each of the parts. The worse I've seen so far is that the dog is no more than a fancy metal detector. I get the feeling they never trained their dog for combat or tricks.

[Squidbot]

I get the feeling they never trained their god for combat or tricks.

Where is your god now?!

[Norse]

This game looks to be as good as I hoped. Can't wait for its release this friday. Dead Space, Far Cry 2 and Fable 2 all arriving this Friday? Insane!! Fable 2 is first priority though.

[Telefrog]

arstechnica has a good review up (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/games/fable-2-review.ars) giving it a buy.

That review rocked.

[SPBTooL]

Where is your god now?!
haha, Black and White taught me that all gods need training.

fixed.

The lowest scored review yet is up at Team Xbox (http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1598/Fable-II/p1/). They gave it an 8.9. The review felt like it was written by someone caught up in the hype that was also still bitter that Fable 1 was not what was promised. And they don't really like Western RPGs.

[Squidbot]

arstechnica has a good review up (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/games/fable-2-review.ars) giving it a buy.

Of the three systems, only the magic system feels cumbersome. The problem with the magic system is that, unlike swords and ranged, there are multiple spell types which can be used. Because there are no magic points to worry about consuming, the game uses a charging system to activate higher-level spells. Essentially, you have a ladder of spells that is climbed the longer you hold the B button down. The problem is that only one spell type can be set to each rung of the ladder, and changing what spell is at what level on the fly is extremely cumbersome and dangerous in combat as it disables you, leaving the enemy free to attack you. This means that you can only have one spell type at a given spell level at a time. Given that there is a wide range of different spells, all capable of being leveled up five times, this creates some issues for magicians hoping to use a wide range of skills at any one time.

You can pause the game at any time during combat and change your spell set up. This isn't an issue at all.

[SPBTooL]

You can pause the game at any time during combat and change your spell set up. This isn't an issue at all.Wait. So I can't have a level 1 fire spell and also have that same spell on level 5?

[SPBTooL]

IGN review (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/921/921508p1.html), 8.8. It seems to be a fair review. and again we get different opinions on different elements of the game. The worst is that you can not bring your character into the co-op game when playing couch co-op. I knew you couldn't do it for online but I thought you still could for the couch play.

[National Kato]

The worst is that you can not bring your character into the co-op game when playing couch co-op. I knew you couldn't do it for online but I thought you still could for the couch play.

Yes, the arstechnica review highlighted that as well:


Disappointing, though, is that, in both flavors, visiting players do not use their actual avatars: they use henchmen which take the place of their avatars and transfer gold and experience orbs back to their own player.


That's unfortunate, given how much attention has been placed on physical appearance and customization of clothing. What's the point of looking like a hot dog stand if no one will ever see it unless they sit on your couch?

[Squidbot]

Wait. So I can't have a level 1 fire spell and also have that same spell on level 5?

Correct. You can designate what level of spell you wish to use.

great dog moment #1:
You can train your dog to piss on people's legs.

[Sandman]

I can tell right now my character will be the ugliest evil bastard you ever laid your eyes on.

[TheEvilNarwhale]

great dog moment #1:
You can train your dog to piss on people's legs.

Oh man. This game is gonna be ridiculous. I can't wait til midnight.

[Generation ABXY]

Can't wait either! Granted, I didn't pre-order and won't be getting it at midnight...but Microsoft has been rather decent lately. :D

[Telefrog]

That's unfortunate, given how much attention has been placed on physical appearance and customization of clothing. What's the point of looking like a hot dog stand if no one will ever see it unless they sit on your couch?

It sounds like the visitor gets the generic or random appearance while the host does get to show off his/her appearance.

[Iron Past]

That Ars Technica review is pretty good, but it highlights many things that are a problem with reviewers: when you go through the story fast, you miss things.

Obviously there's the magic thing that Squid already pointed out, but to say there's not very many weapons? I saw Peter scroll through hundreds of different weapons in one of the videos. I guess you can argue that it's the same weapon with a different skin, but all any weapon is is hit points personified. Or lamenting the "bread crumb" trail when you can turn it off. I feel bad picking apart pieces of a very positive review, but they're just wrong in a few cases.

[National Kato]

Obviously there's the magic thing that Squid already pointed out, but to say there's not very many weapons? I saw Peter scroll through hundreds of different weapons in one of the videos. I guess you can argue that it's the same weapon with a different skin, but all any weapon is is hit points personified.

But it bears noting that, despite hundreds of skins on a given weapon, the base stat modifiers come in 4 flavors. Augments can change that up, but this doesn't seem like the type of game where loot will matter much beyond personal appearance preferences.

[Squidbot]

The weapons are fine, it's more about how you look and how you use the weapons given to you.

And as for the Co-Op.... the 2nd character is generic, that's well known. The camera is horrible. Horrible, horrible. It makes the gameplay a lot less fun, in my opinion.

Buuuut, I don't love the game for it's co-op, I love it for the awesome, brilliant, deep single player that comes with extra bacon. I cannot recommend this game highly enough.

[Talon]

I can't wait to be playing this, but I've got to get through tomorrow first (2 midterms, a 6 page paper, and a loan application).

Anyways, I think I'll manage to survive. Thank God I got no classes on Wednesday.

[bapenguin]

That's unfortunate, given how much attention has been placed on physical appearance and customization of clothing. What's the point of looking like a hot dog stand if no one will ever see it unless they sit on your couch?

The hencman does take on the traits from your character though. If you are evil, the hencman will be evil.

[bapenguin]

Correct. You can designate what level of spell you wish to use.


No, that's not true. You can quick cycle while casting by simply tapping the d-pad when it gets to the cast level. You can change the priority of the spell as well setting a primary at each level.

[Squidbot]

No, that's not true. You can quick cycle while casting by simply tapping the d-pad when it gets to the cast level. You can change the priority of the spell as well setting a primary at each level.

You can set the levels in the magic screen.

[n3rdXcore]

I am so pumped for this game. I just finished Lost Chapters again last night, so all things Albion will be fresh in my memory. I still can't decide if I want to go good or evil though, and what class route to go.

[Telefrog]

And as for the Co-Op.... the 2nd character is generic, that's well known. The camera is horrible. Horrible, horrible. It makes the gameplay a lot less fun, in my opinion.

The camera is horrible for co-op, or is it horrible in general? If it's horrible only in co-op is it horrible for the guest, the host, or both?

What makes it horrible? Is it different from the camera in the first game?

[AgtFox]

Reading through the Team Xbox and IGN review (yeah, they're the same company, but let's put that aside for the moment) and they both say that if you go main storyline only the game could be done in under 10 hours and that the social parts of the game start to take a downturn after the initial shine.

They do say, at least on IGN, if you do a bunch of things it could last over 30 hours though. Oh well, still interested. Hopefully the side stuff will grab me more than it did in the original Fable.

[AgtFox]

The camera is horrible for co-op, or is it horrible in general? If it's horrible only in co-op is it horrible for the guest, the host, or both?

What makes it horrible? Is it different from the camera in the first game?
It sounds like in the IGN review that the co-op camera is the problem. Read page 4 especially (and the end of page 3 I guess).

[Telefrog]

It sounds like in the IGN review that the co-op camera is the problem. Read page 4 especially (and the end of page 3 I guess).

IGN is blocked at work. :( Can someone summarize it for me?

[SPBTooL]

IGN is blocked at work. :( Can someone summarize it for me?Here you go.
Another issue is the camera. It is limited in how it can be manipulated and because of having two heroes on screen, is pulled back too far. You also won't get the benefit of being able to zoom into with your gun.

[Telefrog]

Here you go.

Hmmm. So it sounds like it would suck more to be the host since any disadvantage in the hosted game directly influences that character's Albion.

Oh, well. I'll deal with it like I do the camera in the Lego games.

[SPBTooL]

The total loss of a shooting skill ability in co-op is kind of a big deal. Before or after that level may not be that bad though.

[Telefrog]

The total loss of a shooting skill ability in co-op is kind of a big deal. Before or after that level may not be that bad though.

It could be a handicap. I don't know. I don't think I ever used the zoomed-in ranged attack view after the tutorial in the first game. Since the enemy lock on was 100% accurate anyway, I never saw the need to manually aim.

[Iron Past]

Reading through the Team Xbox and IGN review (yeah, they're the same company, but let's put that aside for the moment) and they both say that if you go main storyline only the game could be done in under 10 hours and that the social parts of the game start to take a downturn after the initial shine.

They do say, at least on IGN, if you do a bunch of things it could last over 30 hours though. Oh well, still interested. Hopefully the side stuff will grab me more than it did in the original Fable.

From almost all the other ones I've read, the main quest takes around 15 hrs. I don't know why someone would want to rush through a game like Fable II, though, it's not a typical action game or anything. You loose much of the point if you just shoot through it as fast as you can.

[Iron Past]

The total loss of a shooting skill ability in co-op is kind of a big deal. Before or after that level may not be that bad though.

But in online coop there shouldn't be any bad camera, right? Both parties should have their own screen. Too bad for local coop, but Fable II is hardly the first game where you have to work around the camera.

[ADDGirl]

I can't wait for midnight to get my copy, I took off tomorrow from my internship so I can play.

[AgtFox]

From almost all the other ones I've read, the main quest takes around 15 hrs. I don't know why someone would want to rush through a game like Fable II, though, it's not a typical action game or anything. You loose much of the point if you just shoot through it as fast as you can.
Well, if the side stuff becomes boring (which it doesn't sound like it does) like it did in Fable I would personally go straightline story again after dabbling in the side stuff. Fable took under 10 hours to beat and the credits took about 2 hours (I'm exaggerating, but they were long). Its biggest problem was that the side stuff got boring quickly to me. I have hope Fable II does not hold the same fate.

And different players have different playstyles. I know it is hard to understand someone plowing through the main story, but there are those out there...reviewers or not (I am not reviewing this game, someone else is here...also did not review the original Fable).

[Iron Past]

And different players have different playstyles. I know it is hard to understand someone plowing through the main story, but there are those out there...reviewers or not (I am not reviewing this game, someone else is here...also did not review the original Fable).

Oh, I understand there are those that just want to shoot through the story, like in Dead Space where exploring around just nets you more story and some upgrades, but in Fable II the meat of the game is what you do in the world and how it affects everything, so I would imagine that you miss out on alot of the actual game if you do that. If you want a strait up action game, there are ones that do that particular thing better out there. Plus I understand the end is not as grand as it could have been.

[AgtFox]

Thing is I don't want to shoot through the story (didn't when Fable came out either), but the pure junvenile situations (different farts...how mature!) and boring side stuff pushed me into shooting through the story on Fable. I'm hoping Fable II is not like that.

And you guys will probably be through Fable II before I touch it, have at least 2 other games to play and review for here.

[Spigot]

I actually quite enjoyed Fable 1, so I'm quite excited about this, though I've done my best not to read or watch too much about it.

I will admit that I've been spending the last day or two trying to decide how I'm going to play. Will I be a man or a woman? Will I be good or evil? Guns or spells? Chicken or fish?

So many options... Arg!

I did just get the call saying that it will be ready for pick up at 10 am tomorrow. Yay! Now I just need to hope that my daughter sleeps all afternoon while my son is at school and I'll actually be able to play it before 9pm!

[Squidbot]

Others have answered it by linking to reviews, but yes; the camera is further back, less manoeuvrable and often troublesome in co-op. The loss of aim mode is bearable, but having problems distinguishing who is an enemy and who is a friend, where you are in the mass of enemies and also the age old "cannot move on as one person is stuck on the scenery so other person has to come back" really shouldn't be in a game like this.

All that aside, Fable 2 is a hell of a ride. Molyneux has delivered this time around, I actually felt emotionally invested in the game. I can't wait till Friday so that I can begin to play it again, and yes I will be playing it on co-op with mrs Squid, but only a little. I won't talk about the online co-op as I imagine the NDA still holds for that.

I will also repeat a piece of advice I gave in another thread:
Watch what you eat. It is very easy to get fat in Fable 2, but not so easy to shed the weight. Eat healthy ;)

And some amusing moments:
After deciding on a lesbian marriage to the owner of the clothes shop in town, I examined my wife more thoroughly and was very amused to find she was a kinky lesbian into being rough

I got called an old slag by a storyline NPC

Right! More wine!

[Iron Past]

Thing is I don't want to shoot through the story (didn't when Fable came out either), but the pure junvenile situations (different farts...how mature!) and boring side stuff pushed me into shooting through the story on Fable. I'm hoping Fable II is not like that.

Oh hey, I agree that Fable had some pretty boring side stuff. I think I made it halfway before I stopped doing them. There were some good ones, but most sucked. For that matter, some of the main stuff was boring, and the last fight with Jack the Dragon was beyond bad.

That's why I'm excited for Fable II. There were some pretty half-baked ideas in Fable that are finally fully-baked (it seems), everything seems to be improved upon exponentialy. It'll be nice to really play around in the world this time around. And now, combat actually looks fun.

[Squidbot]

You know, I've had a squiz through some of these reviews, and while they may mostly be lavishing praise on the game, I can't help get the impression that many of the reviewers haven't played the game for more than a couple of hours. This is mainly due to the criticisms of the combat, which becomes more and more fun as you progress. Meh, reviewers don't need to finish games these days.

[itchyeyes]

Oh hey, I agree that Fable had some pretty boring side stuff. I think I made it halfway before I stopped doing them. There were some good ones, but most sucked. For that matter, some of the main stuff was boring, and the last fight with Jack the Dragon was beyond bad.

That's why I'm excited for Fable II. There were some pretty half-baked ideas in Fable that are finally fully-baked (it seems), everything seems to be improved upon exponentialy. It'll be nice to really play around in the world this time around. And now, combat actually looks fun.
For me, the Demon Doors were the catalyst for exploring the world in Fable. They were mostly just fetch quests, but each one had a unique twist and many had some sort of riddle that you had to solve before you knew what you had to fetch for it. Some of them also served as a sort of tutorial to teach the gamer some of the more advanced game concepts and how your actions effected the world around you.

If you took the time to check out some of the side quests and didn't like them, that's fine. But there are a lot of people out there that just plow through the main quest, never giving any thought to whether or not there's more to the game than just finishing it, and then complain about it being too short.

[Orca]

I went light side with every decision in the game, but a 'whoops what just happened' moment made me go on a killing spree.

I got a quest to find a date for this guy. His father was worried about his kid not having a wife yet and I agreed to find him a woman. Then I talked to the kid and it turns out he wants a date, but doesn't want a woman...

OK, whatever - so I had to go to the nearest town to find him a suitable "person" for him.

Got back and it was dark, so there was nobody on the streets. I figured I'd go see my family, who happened to live in the same town. The wife was looking for sex, as always, and I figured I'd nail her and then it'd be daylight.

Walk in and she's not there. Start walking back downstairs and my son comes up and talks to me. I do the sock puppet expression for him to bump his 'YOU'RE FUNNY' response up and we go outside to look for mom, that whore. What's she doing out at this hour of the night?

While standing in the street I see a new icon on my d-pad quick select for expressions and actions. So I push it...

It's the 'find me a date' thing and it gets the details from whoever you have selected...my very young son.

"OH HE LOOKS PERFECT!" the voiceover says. "GET ME THOSE DETAILS."

I realized I just pimped my kid. To a gay pedophile.

So I, a guy who has his righteousness pinned to the max and is holier than the Pope, went and killed that guy, his father (who gave me the quest) and some dude who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[AgtFox]

You know, I've had a squiz through some of these reviews, and while they may mostly be lavishing praise on the game, I can't help get the impression that many of the reviewers haven't played the game for more than a couple of hours. This is mainly due to the criticisms of the combat, which becomes more and more fun as you progress. Meh, reviewers don't need to finish games these days.
Most of the main site reviewers out there have had the game since Variety put that note up that Peter had left in the package about having someone else play the game. That news happened on October 6th, so they've had almost 2 full weeks to play it. Add to this the fact that most reviewers that work for major sites work full-time on that site, so they can devote 8+ hours a day to a game unlike those of us that have full-time jobs and try to review games during freetime.

Anyway, bottom line is they should have completed the game in that time unless they had a lot of games early to play and review.

[SPBTooL]

I went light side with every decision in the game, but a 'whoops what just happened' moment made me go on a killing spree.

I got a quest to find a date for this guy. His father was worried about his kid not having a wife yet and I agreed to find him a woman. Then I talked to the kid and it turns out he wants a date, but doesn't want a woman...

OK, whatever - so I had to go to the nearest town to find him a suitable "person" for him.

Got back and it was dark, so there was nobody on the streets. I figured I'd go see my family, who happened to live in the same town. The wife was looking for sex, as always, and I figured I'd nail her and then it'd be daylight.

Walk in and she's not there. Start walking back downstairs and my son comes up and talks to me. I do the sock puppet expression for him to bump his 'YOU'RE FUNNY' response up and we go outside to look for mom, that whore. What's she doing out at this hour of the night?

While standing in the street I see a new icon on my d-pad quick select for expressions and actions. So I push it...

It's the 'find me a date' thing and it gets the details from whoever you have selected...my very young son.

"OH HE LOOKS PERFECT!" the voiceover says. "GET ME THOSE DETAILS."

I realized I just pimped my kid. To a gay pedophile.

So I, a guy who has his righteousness pinned to the max and is holier than the Pope, went and killed that guy, his father (who gave me the quest) and some dude who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. That was awesome. When PM said he was going to make it hard to be good and pure I never would have expected that.

[Orca]

I felt sick. I stopped for a minute just thinking...what the fuck just happened? What do I do? Do I reload the game's last save?

[Superman's Dead]

I felt sick. I stopped for a minute just thinking...what the fuck just happened? What do I do? Do I reload the game's last save?

I'd definitely go for the reload and never tell the story to anyone again ever. Did you find your wife?

[Spigot]

Orca, that was awesome. I can't wait to play this now that I know crazy stuff like that can happen :)

[MalReynolds]

goin to the local Walmart at 12 and picking my copy up pretty sure

[Kryopsis]

Despite my earlier decision not to buy anything but Far Cry 2 and Rock Band 2, I canceled my Rock Band 2 pre-order in favour of Fable II. After spending 1,200$ on computer parts, spending LESS money is good.

That and it's bloody Fable II!

[n3rdXcore]

Ooooh, Amazon says my package is in transit. Tomorrow cannot come quickly enough.

[Variable Gear]

I'm still working on getting all the items from Pub Games. Yeah, I hate Keystone... :(

[n3rdXcore]

I'm still working on getting all the items from Pub Games. Yeah, I hate Keystone... :(

Keystone works out pretty well if you max bet on all the stones, and then max bet on 222, 333, 444, and 555. You'll lose money quite frequently, but if you ever roll a triple, you make some serious cash.

[Spigot]

I'm still working on getting all the items from Pub Games. Yeah, I hate Keystone... :(I spent a chunk of the weekend finally tinkering with the Pub Games. The only one I really enjoyed was Spinner Box, because I actually hit the jackpot.

Thanks for the hint on Keystone, Nerdcore. I'll fiddle with the game again tonight and see how it goes.

I do love how there is so much that you can do outside of the game to unlock stuff in the game without having to actually spend extra money on DLC.

[Variable Gear]

I spent a chunk of the weekend finally tinkering with the Pub Games. The only one I really enjoyed was Spinner Box, because I actually hit the jackpot.
I pretty much hate the lot of them. Spinnerbox is my least favorite, because it's pure chance. It is senseless to have a tournament based around something like that. It'd be like having a real-world slot machine tournament. The presentation of the games themselves, however, is astounding. I love how easy it is to check odds in Keystone or to check your position in a Fortune's Tower tournament.
I do love how there is so much that you can do outside of the game to unlock stuff in the game without having to actually spend extra money on DLC.
I agree. Giving people access to extra game content as a reward for their preorder is one thing, but Microsoft's even gone beyond that in their promotion of Fable II. This is something that many games could benefit from.

[Spigot]

I pretty much hate the lot of them. Spinnerbox is my least favorite, because it's pure chance. It is senseless to have a tournament based around something like that. Ok. Maybe enjoy was too strong a word for what I felt. It was the least hated...

Both Keystone and especially whatever the card game is called... anyway, both of them were essentially giant money sinks. I didn't want to play anymore once I won a sizable chunk of cash because I spend more time losing than winning.

[Variable Gear]

Ok. Maybe enjoy was too strong a word for what I felt. It was the least hated...

Both Keystone and especially whatever the card game is called... anyway, both of them were essentially giant money sinks. I didn't want to play anymore once I won a sizable chunk of cash because I spend more time losing than winning.
If you enjoyed them, Spig, there's no need to be embarrassed! :p

But, you're right that losses tend to mount up over time in each game. I'm taking my cash and leaving, just like you.

[Spigot]

If you enjoyed them, Spig, there's no need to be embarrassed! :p

But, you're right that losses tend to mount up over time in each game. I'm taking my cash and leaving, just like you.I actually did kind of like Spinnerbox because I'd just keep mashing the A button and actually had the score go up most of the time... which let me relax my brain and just listen to podcasts.

If I wasn't listening to the podcasts, THEN it would have made me want to stick something into my eyes.

As a free game that came with my Fable 2, it's ok. I feel really, really sorry for anyone who actually spent money on the thing.

[SilentScreams]

I was actually planning to plow through the story quickly in Fable 2, after all, I have Far Cry 2 to play as well.
But I think after reading some reviews, I'll end up taking my time. I think I'll get my shift at work covered on Saturday so I can spend a whole weekend with it.

[Disgustipated]

I fucking told you guys. "LOLZ FABLE II WILL BE OK"

Fuck you.

[Variable Gear]

Keystone works out pretty well if you max bet on all the stones, and then max bet on 222, 333, 444, and 555. You'll lose money quite frequently, but if you ever roll a triple, you make some serious cash.
Thanks for the tip! I just earned myself a Championship Cutlass thanks to two consecutive trip nines. That was one unbelievable game. :)
I fucking told you guys. "LOLZ FABLE II WILL BE OK"

Fuck you.
Ah, D, why do you always have to be so rough?

[Primus]

I was under the impression that playing co-op online allows your actual character from your world to join another person's world, while playing local co-op makes the second player a generic henchmen. Is this correct?

If not I am really disappointed. This entire game is supposed to be based upon your individual character's uniqueness.

[SilentScreams]

That's the impression I got too, Primus.
I hope it's right.

[Primus]

That's the impression I got too, Primus.
I hope it's right.

Yeah, I mean hopefully that is part of the reason the online co-op is needing to be patched in.

[SPBTooL]

Well I just got off the phone with Play-n-Trade and they have my copy in and available at midnight.

[Gerbs]

I see you guys on my friends list playing this... I hate you. Picking up my copy at lunch tomorrow assuming I can get away from work. Going to go with Fable 2 and Toonie Tuesday for lunch.

[diablopath]

What're your opinions?

The controls felt a little clunky to me, but thats a relatively minor complaint.
I'm glad the tutorial is relatively short, this is the second game (first being Dead Space :P) that I've played that doesn't completely hold your fucking hand.

I decided I'm going to be an asshole my first playthrough.
The game allowed me to passively support slavery.
This is too easy...

[Savok]

And some amusing moments:
After deciding on a lesbian marriage to the owner of the clothes shop in town, I examined my wife more thoroughly and was very amused to find she was a kinky lesbian into being rough
YES.

That's it, I don't need any more games after this.

[Orca]

What're your opinions?

The controls felt a little clunky to me, but thats a relatively minor complaint.
I'm glad the tutorial is relatively short, this is the second game (first being Dead Space :P) that I've played that doesn't completely hold your fucking hand.

I decided I'm going to be an asshole my first playthrough.
The game allowed me to passively support slavery.
This is too easy...

It felt a bit clunky to me as well, but that faded once I got some attacks and wasn't just mashing melee or shoot to kill things. When you've gotten chain attacks and counter moves, you take a lot more care with your melee - that really gets rid of the clunkiness I felt.

On the ranged side, getting the instant reload timing down helped out for crowds, while the zoom + sub-targeting really eliminated any ranged boredom there might have been. It's pretty cool to sight on someone from max range and just hold it until they get right up close, then blast their head off.

[KamaItachi]

So anyone got any opinions on the limited edition goods?

[Lutheran]

Nowhere. I'm getting it from Gamefly! :D

Me too , it shipped to me yesterday from Gamefly

BTW , since I am gameflying this game is there anyway I can see a manual online? I love to check out the manual but I have never received one with a gamefly shipment.

[Variable Gear]

I apologize in advance for how disconnected this post is...because it's a mess...

I am crying right now because I got an STD in Fable 2. Is there anything I can do about this? If it's a money issue, I should be fine, because I imported my data from Pub Games and this gypsy chick gave me 3600 gold for dancing a really, really complex jig. I'd just like to know if there's a cure. Also, how do you access the weapons you unlock via Pub Games? I want my fancy equipment!

It's nice that you can see orbs that aren't on your friends list, even though it's kind of annoying at times. That's why I limited the orb functionality back to friends only. It's cool that you can check out anyone's stats from their orb, though. It's hard to understate the creepiness of another player going about the motions of completing the same quest as you. It's also embarrassing to see all of the Rockstar/GTA, Halo, and Gears of War gamerpics floating around. The Xbox crowd needs a bit of a culture boost...

I will say that I love my dog Huxley, because he's a great help. The dog pathfinding fucks up sometimes, especially when you try to play fetch your pooch, but overall he does a good job of staying close to me and giving my enemies an unhappy end. I have a question about buried items, though. Is there a way to quickly dig something up, or do you always have to go to the menu to get your spade?

I was so sad when I realized that you have to press the right trigger to pull in experience. I missed out on quite a bit of experience back there...wait, I've got to find out how to unlock that chest! The site in the game (fable2.com) doesn't seem to be much help, but here are some fate cards (http://www.lionhead.com/?newsid=52).

The combat was slightly too button-mashy for my taste at the start of the game, but, to be honest, you don't even start Fable II with the block ability. Now that I can block, I won't have to use offensive attacks defensively. The timing on ranged weapons, specifically crossbows, seems a bit odd. Not to mention that crossbows remind me of the original Fable, which makes me feel ill. I'm hoping that pistols are a little more fluid.

I need to get a HDTV...yadda yadda yadda...yeah, I still don't have one. That's another reason why I'm crying, because the text on most 360 games makes my eyes bleed. Fable II is no different in this respect. Yeah, I'll get a HDTV soon enough. I know it's my own damn fault.

I was confused for like 17 minutes after I equipped that Assassin's Cloak I got from a chest. I was like, "Where'd my Gypsy Shirt go?" And the game was like, "IDK, it doesn't look like you can change your equipped shirt anymore." Then I wept, went into a house, slept, tried to put on my shirt again, wiped the tears away, looked at the menu more clearly and realized that my cloak was in the "coat" option under the clothing umbrella. I simply took off my coat, and my gypsy-ness returned. I celebrated this act of undiscovery by wasting a potion.

I have no idea how you are supposed to teach your dog tricks. When I got a dog trick book it told me to do some other command, and when I did that...nothing happened.

I also hate that I got all those gypsys in the starting area to love me. They followed me everywhere asking for a ring. I now have three rings, but, before I knew where to get them, their presence was just as annoying as their husbands. Stop complaining, your wives love me more than they love you. It's you're own fault that your out of shape and sexually inferior to me (STD or not), so, please, stop the bellyaching.

As the penultimate nail in the coffin of this rambling post, I'd like to say that I accidentally took out my crossbow like four times in the starting area. I get confused between the times that I'm locked on to someone and the times that I'm not locked on. Yes, I am a professional, thanks for asking!

P.S.: When I went to pick up my game, some dude happened to call in to GameStop and asked if they had Tactics Ogre for the GBA. Keep in mind that he is asking this past midnight central time on a Monday Night/Tuesday Morning, a time when the store is usually closed. If this guy didn't know about the Fable 2 midnight release party at all he is the most hardcore gamer I've ever heard of. Before him, I've always considered Shinta Nojiri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shinta_Nojiri) to be among the most hardcore people in gaming. The fact that he designed the Metal Gear Ac!d games and broke up with his girlfriend over Pokemon had a great deal to do with his place on the pedestal.

[Uniqueusername]

Okay, one question: can you play system link/LAN co-op?

[Squidbot]

Is there a way to quickly dig something up, or do you always have to go to the menu to get your spade?

Just stand on the spot and use the D-Pad when the icon changes.
No idea about the STD, never caught one.

[SilentScreams]

Okay, one question: can you play system link/LAN co-op?

Good question. It would be nice, although I haven't heard anything about it.

[Uniqueusername]

Good question. It would be nice, although I haven't heard anything about it.
It's a must-have feature for me.

I have two 360s on a LAN specifically for co-op gaming, but many titles don't support it! (Army of Two, Mercenaries 2, etc) Very annoying. :mad:

[Widgetcraft]

I was actually planning to plow through the story quickly in Fable 2, after all, I have Far Cry 2 to play as well.
But I think after reading some reviews, I'll end up taking my time. I think I'll get my shift at work covered on Saturday so I can spend a whole weekend with it.

Well, I've heard:

that aging is dictated by how far along you've gone in the story

so I'm going to focus mostly on other stuff.

[National Kato]

I'd definitely go for the reload and never tell the story to anyone again ever. Did you find your wife?

Never reload in games like this. I really feel like making mistakes and dealing with the effects is the best way to approach RPGs that have definite consequences to actions. Not just KOTOR-like 'Good' or 'Bad' consequences, but long-term ramifications.

I like the idea of a Hero having a pissy day. :D

[SPBTooL]

Played for an hour and a half last night. Completing the training stuff and getting back to Bowerstone. The walking and running controls feel squishy but didn't feel that way during combat. I kind of wish I could adjust the camera to positions farther in and out while running. There are areas of the terrain that I can't climb, jump or mantle that I think I should be able to. But those are small and I can still get to where I was trying to another way. I turned the bred crumb trail down and do not find it annoying when not following it. Nor do I find the targeting glow as annoying as I thought I would. It also feels to me like there is a delay in the response of the mini games. I have been able to adjust to it.

Is there anything I can do about this? Peter M. has stated that they can be cured but I do not know how.

I will say that I love my dog Huxley, because he's a great help. The dog pathfinding fucks up sometimes, especially when you try to play fetch your pooch, but overall he does a good job of staying close to me and giving my enemies an unhappy end. I have a question about buried items, though. Is there a way to quickly dig something up, or do you always have to go to the menu to get your spade?I have no idea how you are supposed to teach your dog tricks. When I got a dog trick book it told me to do some other command, and when I did that...nothing happened. The pathing is a tad wonky at times but I was surprised that he has to pee at on a regular basis. When you have a book to train your dog just stand still and you will get a book icon on D-pad down. I think can find the book in your inventory and use it from there too. You may not wont to train your dog every trick you get. The spade works the same way. Stand at the spot your dog points out and it will shoe up for use in the d-pad's down spot.

I've got to find out how to unlock that chest!What chest? other than chests that require a silver key they all should open for you. The number of keys needed for a silver chest is printed on the chest.

[National Kato]

Fable 2 LE just arrived on my desk! C'mon, 5:30 p.m.!!

[Deunnero]

Fable 2 LE just arrived on my desk! C'mon, 5:30 p.m.!!

Got mine just 45 minutes ago, it's missing the DLC card :(

[Mdot]

Just picked it up during lunch. Can't wait to get home and tear this fucker open. I hate work.

[n3rdXcore]

Ugh I was going to pop in into a 360 at work but it's in use for Rock Band 2. Now I have to wait til 2pm!

[That Darn Kat]

I got this game Saturday (woohoo, local gameshops breaking all the rules) and have played for the last three nights. I've only done two quests in the main storyline though, as there are lots of other things to do. One of the first things I did was go to a tailor and buy tons of awesome clothing and dye. I love that the dye isn't a one time use item and I go out of my way to collect as many colors as I can.

For those of you just starting the game, a word of advice: Don't impress the children at the beginning of the game and then go into the alleyway. I got stuck in there and had to start a new game. =[ Apparently, while you can push people out of your way, you can't push the people behind them so you can get cornered if it's a small enough space.

[Orca]

I got this game Saturday (woohoo, local gameshops breaking all the rules) and have played for the last three nights. I've only done two quests in the main storyline though, as there are lots of other things to do. One of the first things I did was go to a tailor and buy tons of awesome clothing and dye. I love that the dye isn't a one time use item and I go out of my way to collect as many colors as I can.

For those of you just starting the game, a word of advice: Don't impress the children at the beginning of the game and then go into the alleyway. I got stuck in there and had to start a new game. =[ Apparently, while you can push people out of your way, you can't push the people behind them so you can get cornered if it's a small enough space.

Just scare them until they run away.

Or take out the weapon, turn off the safety and start hacking...

[Telefrog]

Okay, so now that some people have been playing this for a good while, it's time to 'fess up.

Have any of you encountered the punishment for cheating at XBLA Pub Games, and what is it?

[National Kato]

Have any of you encountered the punishment for cheating at XBLA Pub Games, and what is it?

The truth comes out: you're a dirty cheater. :D

[Telefrog]

The truth comes out: you're a dirty cheater. :D

Hell, yes. Grinding for money is my least favorite activity in any RPG. It's especially less relevant in Fable II since armor has no value outside of appearance.

I cheated right up to 100K. I figured that's a nice nest egg to start, but won't completely unblance the game for me.

[Spigot]

I don't want an STD. I shall remain chaste until my wedding day!

Of course, shortly after the game started, I had the local gypsies propositioning me for marriage within minutes.

Sigh.

[Variable Gear]

What chest? other than chests that require a silver key they all should open for you. The number of keys needed for a silver chest is printed on the chest.
There's a chest in the guild cave that contains any items you have obtained by playing the games on Fable II's official site (fable2.com).

[National Kato]

I don't want an STD.

Just be sure to use a jimmy hat and you don't have to be chaste, sir.

[Lutheran]

I asked this earlier but for you people who use Gamefly is there any way to have access to a manual for a new game like this? I love to look at the manual and well you don't get one when you rent it. I never played Fable 1.

[TheSilentDeath]

I'm in love with the game right now however the only thing that bothers me is that the top part of my screen is cut off. I'm thinking that it's my tv since the screen is a little messed up to begin with since the screen position is off, but now I have an excuse to try it on the new TV.

[Disgustipated]

I asked this earlier but for you people who use Gamefly is there any way to have access to a manual for a new game like this? I love to look at the manual and well you don't get one when you rent it. I never played Fable 1.

I don't believe so. But if you buy it from Gamefly they send you the manual. They're trying to sell me it for $42 right now, so it may be worth picking up for you since it's so cheap.

[Lutheran]

I don't believe so. But if you buy it from Gamefly they send you the manual. They're trying to sell me it for $42 right now, so it may be worth picking up for you since it's so cheap.

Good point

[Bingley Joe]

I asked this earlier but for you people who use Gamefly is there any way to have access to a manual for a new game like this? I love to look at the manual and well you don't get one when you rent it. I never played Fable 1.

They don't have any manuals for Fable (or Fable II, in this case), but you might want to check out Replacementdocs (http://www.replacementdocs.com/news.php) for future reference. They have a pretty amazing collection of manuals and maps available.

[Spigot]

I'm in love with the game right now however the only thing that bothers me is that the top part of my screen is cut off. I'm thinking that it's my tv since the screen is a little messed up to begin with since the screen position is off, but now I have an excuse to try it on the new TV.Is it just the top portion of some of the text? I get that too and it happens occasionally with some of my other games on the 360. Unfortunately, there isn't any way that I can see that you can move the screen down in the 360 system menu.

[inmostlight]

I asked this earlier but for you people who use Gamefly is there any way to have access to a manual for a new game like this? I love to look at the manual and well you don't get one when you rent it. I never played Fable 1.

FWIW, under the "Logbook" section of the pause menu is a help section that covers pretty much everything that's in the manual. The in-game help is usually pretty good, too, telling you what actions you can do when in a context-sensitive situation.

My one gripe with the controls is that I'm just naturally used to the B button canceling menus. But when you're locked on to a citizen to view their mood and that little overlay is on the top of the screen, hitting the B button instead starts attacking with magic and scaring everyone away. I keep pissing off and threatening people I don't want to.

[Spigot]

Is it just me or is the sound a little off in this game?

The opening title screen is just silent... no music...

There is music in the game proper and such, but I have also noticed that the world is eerily silent outside of the usual music/chatter/attacking noises. No footsteps or anything as you traverse the cobbles.

I just noticed all of this tonight when I was playing and it was bugging me. I love the game so far though.

[inmostlight]

Is it just me or is the sound a little off in this game?

The opening title screen is just silent... no music...

There is music in the game proper and such, but I have also noticed that the world is eerily silent outside of the usual music/chatter/attacking noises. No footsteps or anything as you traverse the cobbles.

I just noticed all of this tonight when I was playing and it was bugging me. I love the game so far though.

What kind of sound system are you using? There's definite music on the title screen, very good music in my opinion. There are options in the menus to change between 5.1, tv, and stereo systems, maybe some tweaking there will fix it for you?

I have noticed that the spatial sounds in 5.1 aren't positioned as well as some games, and it doesn't make too much use of the rear speakers, but there is almost always the music and ambient sounds you seem to be missing.

[DeathtollWRX]

First off the game does have wierd bugs. Sometimes I appear on top of areas I should be standing on and so does Chloe "my dogs name". Sometimes the voice takes a while to start or the sound is a few seconds off. The game has strange bugs here and there.

Now that the bad stuff is out of the way let's talk about the good things.

The graphics and animation are really well done. The dog animations are great and you really start to care for your pet. The opening sequences was really well done and I was a bit surprised! The music is as good as it gets although it's nothing i'll be humming in the future. I do like the gameplay and the voiceovers are extraordinary. I have played a little couch co-op and while it doesnt add much to the game it still entertains. I did run into a few other friends that were running around with me and I though it was a little funny to see icons floating around.

Overall Fable 2 is a Very Good game. I am not initially blown away by it but the graphics/sound and gameplay are a great mix. There are things that could have been better (Voice timing strangely off). If you enjoyed Fable 1 you will enjoy Fable 2 but if your not into the action/rpg I doubt this will change your mind.

I give it an 8.9 out of 10.

It's really really good and is what I expected. I'm not blown away but that doesn't mean I won't spend many hours enjoying the game.

[Gerbs]

Are my friends able to talk to me if I am in a certain proximity? I swear to god my TV said "Hi Gerbs" earlier..

[Restlessavenger]

Are my friends able to talk to me if I am in a certain proximity? I swear to god my TV said "Hi Gerbs" earlier..

You get the voice from any of the "bubbles" representing your friends. You can turn it off in the options. While I was playing Lexicon was having a conversation with someone in his room that I was listening in on.

The whole orb thing is pretty strange all things considered, but I think I dig it. It was odd seeing Makigoto walk into the chamber in the first cavern as I was getting there.

[TheSilentDeath]

Is it just the top portion of some of the text? I get that too and it happens occasionally with some of my other games on the 360. Unfortunately, there isn't any way that I can see that you can move the screen down in the 360 system menu.

Actually part of the bottom is gone too. So I'm thinking that it's my tv.

Are my friends able to talk to me if I am in a certain proximity? I swear to god my TV said "Hi Gerbs" earlier..

If it was when you were doing the blacksmith minigame then it might have been me. It's pretty funny when you start talking to someone and they don't know who you are and are like "where the hell is this voice coming from".

[MachEnergy]

Speaking of bugs, has anyone's dog sat on the ground leaning to the side at a 45 degree angle?? It just keeps looking around and seemed happy, but two feet were in mid air as he was propped up somehow.

Also, numerous times, the dog goes partially invisible when I open treasure chests. It looks VERY odd.

Overall the game feels very buggy and awkward. But with time, you just get used to it and start having loads of fun with the gameplay. Funny thing....one of the demon doors wants you to propose in front of him. So I did. Got married. First time I was given the option for safe sex or not.......chose unsafe (I mean I'm FREAKING MARRIED NOW...no worries about STD's here!), and on the first try, we had a baby. I told my real wife that we might have to start double bagging it.

[Gerbs]

You get the voice from any of the "bubbles" representing your friends. You can turn it off in the options. While I was playing Lexicon was having a conversation with someone in his room that I was listening in on.

If it was when you were doing the blacksmith minigame then it might have been me. It's pretty funny when you start talking to someone and they don't know who you are and are like "where the hell is this voice coming from".

So do you guys all just have your mic in while you play Fable 2? I plugged my mic in after I heard someone talking but it was too late they were gone and my TV was too quiet I didn't even really here what they said.

[Elrik Murder]

So far, I'm digging the game. No clear path set for my character, he seems to be morally ambiguous...

But after a few moments of winning the affection of two gypsies, he soon departed for his first adventure. Unbeknownst to him, however, the same two women had followed him up the mountain trail. That's when something inside snapped. Ein, his dog, could sense it as well as he took the defensive as the two neared. His growls were ignored...a deadly mistake.

As the first neared the summit my hero slowly armed himself with his crossbow and took aim (well, not really, haven't gotten that far). One shot, with so much force, sent her over the cliff's edge slamming her into the rocks below, finally hitting the water. Showing no emotion, a cold disconnect on his face, he turned his attention down the path. The glare of the moonlight illuminated his strange grin.

She had not witnessed the horror that just took place. Shame, he would have spared her. He took aim once again, shooting her in the leg. She fell like a stone with a scream. Laying there for so long, unmoving; he thought her to be dead. As he turned his attention back to the path, she tried to rise. Caught off-guard, he ruthlessly unloaded on her until she no longer moved. He didn't take to learn their names, care for their likes/dislikes, or what they thought of him.

After the event passed, he slowly made his way up to the cliff edge and jumped, hitting the water. He emerged as himself again, patted his dog on the head, and entered the cavern, totally unaware of what he had done.

So, I think he's gonna end up evil. Not sure yet. It is fun to have almost total freedom. Hope my gripes about the first one are fixed however. The game sure is a bit glitchy though.

[National Kato]

Overall the game feels very buggy and awkward.

It is, with an emphasis on 'awkward.' I'm really trying hard to enjoy the game, but it feels so rough around the edges. Some of my frustrations:

1) AI Pathfinding - I've been trapped three times in my first few hours. And by 'trapped' I mean I have to reload a save game (the first time I had to restart the game, since it was so early in the tutorial). Essentially, if anyone is following you, e.g. :

(the bard in Bowerstone, adoring children, your wife, etc.)

...chances are that you'll be stuck without any way out, save screaming at them until you've reversed any feelings they had for you, until you re-load a save. Without a simple 'jump' option or the ability to push NPCs out of your way by walking into them, it's very easy to be trapped by the world and its limited pathways. It doesn't encourage exploration of all the little alleyways if you're afraid you'll get stuck by your dog and/or an NPC should you decide to walk down one.

2) Sound Delays - Most of the dialogue, specifically during quest exposition, takes forever to deliver. I keep listening to see if my drive is working hard or what...but the dramatic effect is flaccid: pacing can do a lot to ruin or save a narrative. Voice acting is stellar, but pacing? Not so much.

3) Clarity of Controls - This may just be me, but why is it I find myself struggling to do supposedly simple things? My wife wants to have sex but everytime I go through the motions and lead her to a bed, the only option available to me is to sleep? Meanwhile, our relationship is going down the tubes because she's not getting any?? Also, on one of the demon doors:

The door wants 'meat.' I have tons of it in my inventory. I try to select the meat to give to the door and instead of the door getting it, I eat it and gain weight. This may be my misunderstanding of what it wants, but this early in the game it should be more apparent what to do. Any help here?

Would it be so tough to have a bit more contextual immediacy in the controls?

I know it sounds like I'm nitpicking. I am finding a lot of the world beautiful and some of it impressive, but this is by no means overshadowing my frustrations. If first impressions were about comparing 'oh, wow' moments against 'oh, crap' moments the negatives would be winning.

[itchyeyes]

I'm about 3 hours in and really digging this game. Then again I was one of the people who liked the first one, so just about everything here is just icing on the cake. For the time being I'm playing the businessman. I spent about 30 min working in the blacksmith shop earning my way to a 4 star blacksmith and about 10,000 gold. Afterwards I went around and bought as many stands as I could and raised all my prices by 20%. Once I had a good, steady flow of money going I decided to treat myself to some new clothes and a training book for my dog to help him find better treasure. Now I'm off to Oakvale in search of more business opportunities.

[DeathtollWRX]

I'm about 3 hours in and really digging this game. Then again I was one of the people who liked the first one, so just about everything here is just icing on the cake. For the time being I'm playing the businessman. I spent about 30 min working in the blacksmith shop earning my way to a 4 star blacksmith and about 10,000 gold. Afterwards I went around and bought as many stands as I could and raised all my prices by 20%. Once I had a good, steady flow of money going I decided to treat myself to some new clothes and a training book for my dog to help him find better treasure. Now I'm off to Oakvale in search of more business opportunities.


Good idea, I'm going to try to do the same thing now.

I wish Woodcutting and Blacksmithing were a little different.

[Iron Past]

Wierd, I haven't run into any of the gliches mentioned at all (though I will say that the dog going partially invisible might be because the game will do that to keep the screen clear if they're in the way). Maybe I'm just lucky?

The buttons and actions are mapped very well, the combat is fun, the writing is outstanding, and Hal's gear is awesome. That is all.

[Spigot]

I'll have to check the sound settings. I usually have it set for 5.1 but I do have a crappy non-optical theatre in a box, so I'll see if the stereo settings work better.

It was really strange given how great the sound work in Dead Space is on my crappy home theatre in a box setup. I can't wait until I get a real receiver though... Sheesh.

[Ten19]

I'm getting conflicting information from all over the interwebs. Can someone confirm if they've heard otherwise?

The Pub Games... if you didn't pre-order or buy it from XBLA, there's no way to play them with the retail disc outside of the game itself? And if not, can you earn the items that you can accrue in the XBLA game in the in-game Pub games as well?

Outside of that, I'm really enjoying the game thus far, there is a TON of distractions from the main story, and that is right up my alley. The controls are solid, though there is a slight lack of responsiveness, and there is obvious lag during voiced conversations as the disc spins up the data, which kind of hurts the immersion a touch. Oh, speaking of which, the game should automatically disable friend orbs from appearing/talking during cutscenes, it takes away from the ambiance a touch ;)

[Iron Past]

I'm getting conflicting information from all over the interwebs. Can someone confirm if they've heard otherwise?

The Pub Games... if you didn't pre-order or buy it from XBLA, there's no way to play them with the retail disc outside of the game itself? And if not, can you earn the items that you can accrue in the XBLA game in the in-game Pub games as well?

If you don't buy the separate game from the Arcade, the only way to play them is through the Game Masters in Albion. I don't believe you can get the items that are in the Arcade version by playing the games, but those are just items within the world anyway.

[Kelegacy]

I don't believe so. But if you buy it from Gamefly they send you the manual. They're trying to sell me it for $42 right now, so it may be worth picking up for you since it's so cheap.

Trying to sell it to me for 48.99. Is it because I'm still a "new" member? I've only had them for a little over a month.

Hope it's in my mailbox today!!....I hope...

[EternalGamer]

Trying to sell it to me for 48.99. Is it because I'm still a "new" member? I've only had them for a little over a month.

Hope it's in my mailbox today!!....I hope...

I got mine from GameFly today. And yeah, the prices go down subsquently after you have been a member for 3 month (5%) and 6 months (10%), I believe. It's $44 for me right now.

[QueQueg]

Should get it this week sometime.

First thing I'm doing is having a lesbian orgy.

I was going to do that this week-end anyway.

[Variable Gear]

I love the combat in this game so much, but the expression system still feels out of place.

[Kelegacy]

I got mine from GameFly today. And yeah, the prices go down subsquently after you have been a member for 3 month (5%) and 6 months (10%), I believe. It's $44 for me right now.

I don't think I'll keep them after the new year, but who knows. I've been a member since 9/18 and I've played 4 games. Maybe had those games a total of 10 days altogether. They've received my last game yesterday after it apparently took over a week to get there. They still haven't shipped me out another game, though the title I want is HIGH availability.

Just disappointed with the turn-around and waiting. Seems that's all I've done is wait. I shipped out 2 games the weekend before the one just past, and I wasn't receiving any games or even notices that they'd received my titles. So I had to go to the video store this past weekend and rent Dead Space. Played it for 6 days (5 nights), returned it, and still haven't received anything from Gamefly. Absurd.

But Fable SHOULD be here today. If not today then tomorrow. As long as I have it by the weekend. Otherwise, I've been 2 weeks without a game.

[EternalGamer]

They aren't the most efficient, but they sure have saved me a ton of money. If I play only one new game a month from them, that is $20 rather than $60. You just got to learn how to "game" the system by removing everything off yoru queue except the thing you want and sending back one of your two games at least a week before then. Even buying games through them typically knocks $20 off the retail price. I probably would have bought Fable 2 had I not gotten it from Gamefly. That alone is nearly 3 months worth of GF cost right there.

However, I do wish their turn around and availability was up to Netflix quality. Those guys have a great system.

[SPBTooL]

I have had the collar on the dog go see through and and him stand funny on uneven ground once or twice.I have had none of the sound issues mention. I find the sounds in the game to all compliment the world and each other well. I did change the sound last night to TV since I'm using headphones but didn't notice much of a difference over the HiFi setting.


The Pub Games... if you didn't pre-order or buy it from XBLA, there's no way to play them with the retail disc outside of the game itself? No

And if not, can you earn the items that you can accrue in the XBLA game in the in-game Pub games as well? I do not believe so.

[Kelegacy]

They aren't the most efficient, but they sure have saved me a ton of money. If I play only one new game a month from them, that is $20 rather than $60. You just got to learn how to "game" the system by removing everything off yoru queue except the thing you want and sending back one of your two games at least a week before then. Even buying games through them typically knocks $20 off the retail price. I probably would have bought Fable 2 had I not gotten it from Gamefly. That alone is nearly 3 months worth of GF cost right there.

However, I do wish their turn around and availability was up to Netflix quality. Those guys have a great system.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but Fable wasn't here today. I really wish they'd send me another game too, but they have their fingers in their ass. I looked up how to cancel my subscription on their website but I still have 27 days in my billing cycle so I will have to wait--they won't prorate or anything.

It's not a bad service, and I WILL probably stick with it a bit more, but I'm just really disappointed. Hell, they shipped me Army of Two (the 15-20th game on my list, before I learned about "conning" the Q system) via Fast Return but it didn't work apparently. I didn't even see anything different on that return envelope than the other shitty far-down-my-queue game I received, which wasn't FastReturn.

Games cost 8 bucks to rent where I live, for 6 days/5 nights, so even if rent 4 games a month (like I received for one month with Gamefly) that is still a savings by staying with GF. Plus, I don't have to rush to beat a game.

I looked at other services but nothing seems to compete. Some are lower priced or faster, but less availability or seem sleazy.

Oh well. Cheaper than me spending tons of dough on games.

[Shandor]

My one gripe with the controls is that I'm just naturally used to the B button canceling menus. But when you're locked on to a citizen to view their mood and that little overlay is on the top of the screen, hitting the B button instead starts attacking with magic and scaring everyone away. I keep pissing off and threatening people I don't want to.

Yeah, that one got me a couple times last night. Trying to play a good guy and I keep shocking everybody with lightning. :)

[evilgoodwin]

Yeah, that one got me a couple times last night. Trying to play a good guy and I keep shocking everybody with lightning. :)

Yeah... I have that same complaint. It's hard to be good when you accidentally genocide Oakvale.

[inmostlight]

I also wish that some of the emotion icons were clearer in the on-screen shortcuts, or maybe had text. Which means that sometimes I still get to be an accidental jerk while trying to play a good character.

During a funeral, I saw what looked like an emotion to cry or sympathize. So I pressed in that direction and instead burst out laughing hysterically for the rest of the funeral.

Amazingly, it didn't seem to affect anything and none of the other AI characters reacted to my being a huge dick.

[EternalGamer]

It's not a bad service, and I WILL probably stick with it a bit more, but I'm just really disappointed. Hell, they shipped me Army of Two (the 15-20th game on my list, before I learned about "conning" the Q system) via Fast Return but it didn't work apparently. I didn't even see anything different on that return envelope than the other shitty far-down-my-queue game I received, which wasn't FastReturn.

Games cost 8 bucks to rent where I live, for 6 days/5 nights, so even if rent 4 games a month (like I received for one month with Gamefly) that is still a savings by staying with GF. Plus, I don't have to rush to beat a game.

Perhaps you have better luck with a local rental place. But all I have around me are Blockbusters that will get maybe 3 or 4 copies of newest games in. And I don't particularly want to try to beat all the middle school kids to the copies they have. It's virtually impossible just to casually walk into that store on a weeknight (let alone a weekend) and rent a new release.

I looked at other services but nothing seems to compete. Some are lower priced or faster, but less availability or seem sleazy.

Oh well. Cheaper than me spending tons of dough on games.

GamesnFlix is definitely worse. I speak from personal experience. At least Gamefly has a 3 or 4 distribution centers so it is getting better. It used to take them a full week to get me a game. Now it takes 3-4 days from the day they ship it usually. It's certainly not ideal, but as you point out, there aren't any better alternatives. At least until Netflix started doing games. I'd drop Gamefly the second they started.

[crazyD]

I would like to use gamefly, but I think it is too expensive, and there are long stretches in the year where I don't have anything I really want to play. I used GameznFlix for a while, and they were all right, so long as you want one of the 3 games they have on hand at any given time.

[johnperkins21]

I also wish that some of the emotion icons were clearer in the on-screen shortcuts, or maybe had text. Which means that sometimes I still get to be an accidental jerk while trying to play a good character.

During a funeral, I saw what looked like an emotion to cry or sympathize. So I pressed in that direction and instead burst out laughing hysterically for the rest of the funeral.

Amazingly, it didn't seem to affect anything and none of the other AI characters reacted to my being a huge dick.

I think pressing to the right is always the "good" emoticon and left is the "evil" one. At least that's been my experience thus far.

[Shandor]

Yeah... I have that same complaint. It's hard to be good when you accidentally genocide Oakvale.

Yeah. Makes you just want to go bad in general. :)

[Iron Past]

I also wish that some of the emotion icons were clearer in the on-screen shortcuts, or maybe had text. Which means that sometimes I still get to be an accidental jerk while trying to play a good character.

During a funeral, I saw what looked like an emotion to cry or sympathize. So I pressed in that direction and instead burst out laughing hysterically for the rest of the funeral.

Amazingly, it didn't seem to affect anything and none of the other AI characters reacted to my being a huge dick.

I did the same thing, for the same reason!

But when I did it the other monks started giggling under thier breaths and stiffling laughter, which was even funnier.

Also, your character stops looking like he has a doll face at some point, right?

[Spigot]

Ok. I know it has probably been said already, but man, the online co-op should have just been left out of the game. Whoever thought it was a good idea to essentially implement the hot-seat co-op camera for online play deserves to be slapped.

But that's now what I got the game for anyway, so I'll just NEVER USE THAT FEATURE AGAIN!

I did notice a very, very faint bit of music under the title card when the game starts. The music in the game proper is fine... it's just that the opening screen (Press A to Start) and the running movie that plays if you don't do anything are both almost completely devoid of music. Strange...

[Widgetcraft]

Ok. I know it has probably been said already, but man, the online co-op should have just been left out of the game. Whoever thought it was a good idea to essentially implement the hot-seat co-op camera for online play deserves to be slapped.

But that's now what I got the game for anyway, so I'll just NEVER USE THAT FEATURE AGAIN!

I did notice a very, very faint bit of music under the title card when the game starts. The music in the game proper is fine... it's just that the opening screen (Press A to Start) and the running movie that plays if you don't do anything are both almost completely devoid of music. Strange...

I agree, the co-op is basically worthless. Not only can you not play your character, and not only does the camera suck, but you also find yourself penalized for actions that you take in co-op, in your own game. What I mean is, if you're a Good or Evil character, and go play with someone who isn't, and participate in their actions, you get their alignment points. You'd think that, if anything, the henchmen mechanic would have been used to justify not carrying over the alignment points.

Still, I do love the passive player presence thing, or whatever... Having my friends be visible in my world, and being able to chat with them, is pretty damn cool. I would have been find with just having that.

[Disgustipated]

Fable II is awesome. Everything Fable 1 should have been and more. Love it.

[Spigot]

Still, I do love the passive player presence thing, or whatever... Having my friends be visible in my world, and being able to chat with them, is pretty damn cool. I would have been find with just having that.Yeah, that part is cool. I like seeing the orbs and being able to send people fish. Just don't bother trying to join my game.

[Rock Bandit]

Picked it up last night. I'm not too far, right now me and my dog Lando are just hanging around Bowerstone and checking things out. Did give myself a sweet mullet though. And a moustache. Moustaches are a must for any hero.

The orb thing is pretty cool too. First one I saw was RestlessAvenger so I gave him 60g.

[Telefrog]

Last night, while I was trying to amuse my beloved, I accidentally shat myself.

This game is awesome.

[Restlessavenger]

The orb thing is pretty cool too. First one I saw was RestlessAvenger so I gave him 60g.

This may be a silly question, but I gameflied the game and as such did not get instructions... How do you do that?

[MalReynolds]

i was asking the same ive randomly heard people talking to me though the orbs but how do u send stuff to them?

[Telefrog]

i was asking the same ive randomly heard people talking to me though the orbs but how do u send stuff to them?

Select the orb like you would any of the in-game characters. A menu should come up with a bunch of choices.

[Virtual Machine]

I'm loving the single player, but i'm incredibly disappointed with the co-op. Part of the reason there are two 360's in my home was for Fable 2 co-op. I could get past the cruddy camera if we were only allowed to use our own characters in each other's game. My wife is even more rotted than i am, and i'm pretty rotted.

That said, the Single player is awesome, though it seems EXTREMELY brief. How can a game world 10 times the size of the original take half as long to finish?

[Nerdious]

Man, I haven't marathon'd on a game like that in a while. Super fun, Super immersive. And a story I couldn't beat in one freakin day! Its like the video game renaissance around my house.

Anyways, this game does have some technical issues. It locked up on my 3 times. 1st was the first bandit leader, I check my equipment as it introduced him and it just stood there displaying his name. 2nd I accidentally hit the guide button during some speech. 3rd was a load screen. Might be my 360 but it sucks to have redo stuff.

But other than that I have no complaints, it's an incredible game. Time Warp + Repeating Crossbow, I might as well be playing Gears on Casual. I should also reiterate what I said earlier. Chicken Suit > everything else. Nothing beats getting drunk in a chicken suit, breaking into some houses, and getting a statue made out of me doing a chicken dance. Name another game I can do that and I'll buy it in a heartbeat.

[Rock Bandit]

This may be a silly question, but I gameflied the game and as such did not get instructions... How do you do that?

Left trigger focus your attention on the orb. Press A to interact with it which brings up a menu. From there you can pull up that person's gamercard, send gifts, or check out their game stats.

When I see Variable Gear I'm giving him some condoms. He should know better, a ho can be earning her man and learning her man and at the same time burning her man.

[SPBTooL]

But when I did it the other monks started giggling under thier breaths and stiffling laughter, which was even funnier. I chose the white flag emote. All that happens is he shrugs his shoulders.

What do you (guys) think about how that was told? I liked it allot. It is a real traditional way to tell a story in an action RPG but done very well. I like the "pull left trigger for a cinematic look" but was not crazy about the "you can only walk right now" at first. Once I got over that I realized that it is a tool to let the story happen and build some suspense as to what is going on even though you could see it coming. I think they also use the left trigger to cover up some of the "you can only walk right now" moments.

Picked it up last night. I'm not too far, right now me and my dog Lando are just hanging around Bowerstone and checking things out. Did give myself a sweet mullet though. And a moustache. Moustaches are a must for any hero.I think I left Bowerstone to early. I own nearly everything in Oakvale and just headed back to Bowerstone so try to find all those shops for things like cloths, hair and books. I also need to find a tattoo place. I put the lion head tattoo on and can't get it off. Most people seem to like it but it is not my style.

I like how, when doing the wood cutter job the dog get excited when you multiplier goes up. I had a NPC come up to me and talk about how he saw me chopping wood the day before and was impressed. Allot of people in Albion seem to be stalkers. Oh and I had a husband real start hating me for flirting with his wife.

I think that all the other stuff that goes on and that can be done in the game makes the main story elements that much better when they happen. If you rush through the main quest in this game the first time through you are lessening the experience.

I can't wait to see how much money will be waiting for me when I get back to it tonight. If things don't get more expensive than they were in Oakvale I will be real rich soon. Seeing the gold come in while adventuring is a nice feeling.

[Telefrog]

Oh, and just for the curious, if you used the glitch in the XBLA Pub Games, there are no bad consequences when you merge the accounts in Fable II. I got my all dirty cheater loot, and there were no ill effects on my character.

As a caveat, I only glitched up to $100K, (I didn't even get all the items) so it could be that there is a monetary threshold the game is looking for before it punishes you.

[itchyeyes]

I spent another hour or two with it last night and this morning. Chauncey (my dog) is getting real good at finding treasure thanks to some training books I bought for him. I made it to Oakfield and with some help from a woodcutting job my business empire is starting to flourish. I now own 6 or 7 stalls, a coach house, and a lovely little cottage in Oakfield, which bring in around 600 gold altogether (prices all hiked by 20%). The next acquisition I've got planned is the Oakfield tavern, but it will take me a while to get the 36K I need to buy it.

[Nerdious]

Same load screen, same freeze. As soon as I accept the mission to free the slaves in bowerstone market and walk outside. BAM! Lost progress. That's super annoying.

[SPBTooL]

When I see Variable Gear I'm giving him some condoms. He should know better, a ho can be earning her man and learning her man and at the same time burning her man. I can never seem to get the have sex option. I get them to where they want to marry me but I can't just get it on. Do i need to find an emote book some where? I've been playing with my orbs off to avoid the distraction and my mic is kind of broken. I'll turn them on tonight

I only get the see through dog when he is between me and the camera so think it is meant to happen. I have gotten some slow downs but they do not seem to be frame rate drops due to graphics. They seem to be mode like something is happening in the worlds simulation and stressing the memory or processor for a second.

[Lekon]

I can never seem to get the have sex option. I get them to where they want to marry me but I can't just get it on. Do i need to find an emote book some where? I've been playing with my orbs off to avoid the distraction and my mic is kind of broken. I'll turn them on tonight

There's an emote called "Back to my place" that has an icon of a hot cup of coffee. If you just have them follow you to bed, they might not do the kinky. If you use the "Back to my place" emote, they know to hop in with you. You can find it at the bookstore in Bowerstone easily enough.

Edit: Telefrog, I had around 200,000 from Pub games. No penalties.

[National Kato]

There's an emote called "Back to my place" that has an icon of a hot cup of coffee.

THANK YOU.

Jesus, I mean, my wife's crotch is burning and no matter how many gifts I give her...how many times I fart for her...how many times I lead her to bed, all she wants to do is sleep.

Granted, I married one of the gypsy chicks from my original village - I mean, I was young and impressionable and thought the camp was going to be my life. I didn't know how big the world was outside...

Now that I'm out and about and, well...engaged to three other women (one who is already married - Oakvale is, apparently, a swinging town), I'm not so bothered about Lisa back at home. We don't have any kids and we were young and eager...but now that I can actually have SEX again, maybe I'll go back and leave her with the kind of gift that keeps on giving.*

A Hero's work is never done.


*children, you diseased wretches.

[Iron Past]

When I found out that I could buy an eyepatch, that was it. I'm a fucking pirate. I also look a little unkempt, so I'm constantly asked if I have fleas or some such. Then I just slap them.

[SPBTooL]

You can find it at the bookstore in Bowerstone easily enough. I didn't spend to much time in Bowerstone but did have a hard time finding what I was looking for at the time. Maybe I should have taken that bard's offer to be my guide there. I'm back in Bowerstone now a and plan on staying awhile.

I'm not using the fast travel system as I really want to get to know the land and see how it changes. I like that you get notices of sales and can set the bred crumb trail to lead you there. It is from the sale notices that I found out where to buy augmentations.

[Sandman]

I love what I've played so far of Fable II but I have a quick question...I bought a house in the Bowerstone slums and set it up for rent....how do I get someone to move in?

[Nerdious]

I love what I've played so far of Fable II but I have a quick question...I bought a house in the Bowerstone slums and set it up for rent....how do I get someone to move in?

It's automatic, if you own it and it's for rent it gives you money every 5 minutes.

On the other hand, that slaver quest is officially broken. 3rd time, I talk to the guard in bowerstone, he gives me the slavers location. As soon as I hit a loading screen the game freezes. I'm not a happy camper.

How do you clear the cache on your 360 again? I'll try anything to keep this game from freezing on me.

[Psykoboy2]

Is it just the top portion of some of the text? I get that too and it happens occasionally with some of my other games on the 360. Unfortunately, there isn't any way that I can see that you can move the screen down in the 360 system menu.

I'm having the very same problem. The bottom part of the screen is fine, but the upper part gets cut off when text is displayed. VERY annoying.

When I found out that I could buy an eyepatch, that was it. I'm a fucking pirate. I also look a little unkempt, so I'm constantly asked if I have fleas or some such. Then I just slap them.

One of the rare moments when I actually laughed out loud reading a forum.

[johnperkins21]

Oh, and just for the curious, if you used the glitch in the XBLA Pub Games, there are no bad consequences when you merge the accounts in Fable II. I got my all dirty cheater loot, and there were no ill effects on my character.

As a caveat, I only glitched up to $100K, (I didn't even get all the items) so it could be that there is a monetary threshold the game is looking for before it punishes you.

I called BS on this when he first said that. If the exploit were really there on purpose, they wouldn't have patched it out of Pub Games.

[Lekon]

THANK YOU.

Jesus, I mean, my wife's crotch is burning and no matter how many gifts I give her...how many times I fart for her...how many times I lead her to bed, all she wants to do is sleep.

Granted, I married one of the gypsy chicks from my original village - I mean, I was young and impressionable and thought the camp was going to be my life. I didn't know how big the world was outside...


Burning crotch miiight be a problem. Be careful. It could be a burnination. Glad I could help. For those who are lost, the bookstore is in Bowerstone Market, main square. if you are coming off the bridge, its on your left. There is an alchemist, a home for sale, then the bookstore. Its also got doggy training books

I too married a gypsy, but mostly because the second or third one I found was "Bisexual, Raunchy, Flirty, Romantic" Basicly everything dirty there could be except the aggression one. She was the girl for me. I swear she must try to grab my hero's halo and use .. nevermind.

It is funny when you use the hot coffee emote though. Sometimes the characters will be coy. One time the wife said "I'm going to tear those clothes off of you. Start Running."

[Telefrog]

I called BS on this when he first said that. If the exploit were really there on purpose, they wouldn't have patched it out of Pub Games.

Apparently, he was alluding to the corruption hit you get if you've gambled a lot. The idea behind what he said was that the outrageous glitchers (the folks that glitched a couple million in gold) would have very high corruption scores when they merged their characters. Even though they cheated, the game would still recognize that they gambled a lot to get there.

Of course, if a high corruption stat was what you were going for, then yeah there's very little incentive.

[johnperkins21]

Apparently, he was alluding to the corruption hit you get if you've gambled a lot. The idea behind what he said was that the outrageous glitchers (the folks that glitched a couple million in gold) would have very high corruption scores when they merged their characters. Even though they cheated, the game would still recognize that they gambled a lot to get there.

Of course, if a high corruption stat was what you were going for, then yeah there's very little incentive.

Interesting. Is that true? Do you take a corruption hit when merging your characters? I haven't merged mine yet, so I don't know. If that's the case, then I guess there are consequences for playing Pub Games, but not necessarily cheating.

The IGN article (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/910/910216p2.html) that everyone seems to reference doesn't have a direct quote, but this little blurb infers his meaning:

Well, you can bring in your money from Fable II Pub Games. You may even have used the well-known cheat to earn your dough. Just be warned. Molyneux has said that they are well aware of the cheat and that those who used it to earn their money will be in for a surprise.

Without a direct quote it's difficult to ascertain exactly what he meant, but I still take that to believe they were punishing cheaters, not people who played Pub Games a ton waiting for Fable 2 to come out. I've put in about 8 hours of time in Pub Games (didn't use the exploit and only have 5,000 gold), so would merging my heroes put a hit on my corruption stat?

[evilgoodwin]

I do have a complaint now. All the damn female shopkeepers love me too much that they follow me around all the time and ask me to marry them. What pisses me off is that they won't open the damn stores and just hang around me when it's opening time. I can't marry you, lady! I need to buy furniture!

Some gypsy actually followed me out of camp to the entrance of Brightwood, but I didn't noticed until I was fighting bandits and she proposed. I'm going to have to make these people start hating me ><.

I did find if I whip it out (my weapon), they'll freak out and leave though.

Oh, and has anyone gotten stuck inside a house? Like the door was open and it slammed shut behind you? Don't panic. Just fast travel to wherever you are and it'll put you there without loading. Tried it before I smashed a door and it worked great.

[itchyeyes]

It's automatic, if you own it and it's for rent it gives you money every 5 minutes.

On the other hand, that slaver quest is officially broken. 3rd time, I talk to the guard in bowerstone, he gives me the slavers location. As soon as I hit a loading screen the game freezes. I'm not a happy camper.

How do you clear the cache on your 360 again? I'll try anything to keep this game from freezing on me.
Where do you get these quests? I've been looking for quests to get away from the main story but I can't find any.

[Iron Past]

Where do you get these quests? I've been looking for quests to get away from the main story but I can't find any.

Start menu, under quests/maps. More open up as you explore the world and move on in the story.

[National Kato]

Where do you get these quests? I've been looking for quests to get away from the main story but I can't find any.

Some quests just appear in your quest log (Start menu). I'm not sure I like that, because I'd prefer to have to discover quests.

[SPBTooL]

I do have a complaint now. All the damn female shopkeepers love me too much that they follow me around all the time and ask me to marry them. What pisses me off is that they won't open the damn stores and just hang around me when it's opening time. I can't marry you, lady! I need to buy furniture!Peter did say that they were going to make it hard to be good.

I don't like the fact that you cant do an emote that only effect 1 person in a group. Even with them targeted it still has an effect on everyone watching you.

[johnperkins21]

Some quests just appear in your quest log (Start menu). I'm not sure I like that, because I'd prefer to have to discover quests.

Wait, they just show up in the log as opposed to you stumbling across an NPC who gives you the quest? I don't think I like that either. I was wondering where all the NPCs who'd give me quests were, apparently they've all been outsourced to India and they just send em via email.

[National Kato]

Wait, they just show up in the log as opposed to you stumbling across an NPC who gives you the quest?

Yeah, I think a lot, if not all, are like that. It goes hand-in-hand with the golden breadcrumb trail - Molyneux's attempts at making Fable an easy RPG experience - one that anyone can play, even non-gamers.

[SPBTooL]

Wait, they just show up in the log as opposed to you stumbling across an NPC who gives you the quest? I don't think I like that either. I was wondering where all the NPCs who'd give me quests were, apparently they've all been outsourced to India and they just send em via email.You can still just stumble upon them as you have in the past. It is just that now some of them show up in you log when they become active in the same way that sales magically show up in your log so that you can direct the bread trail or fast travel to them. It only gives you the option to speed things up and gives those that don't hunt for everything another way to find side quests.

[Telefrog]

I'm having the very same problem. The bottom part of the screen is fine, but the upper part gets cut off when text is displayed. VERY annoying.

I have this issue as well. Interestingly, the only other game in which I noticed this same issue was PuzzleQuest. It wasn't as big a deal in that game since nothing really got printed up there, but it did make it hard to see the HP readout at the top.

I wonder what it is about our displays that does this?

[Virtual Machine]

Wait, they just show up in the log as opposed to you stumbling across an NPC who gives you the quest? I don't think I like that either. I was wondering where all the NPCs who'd give me quests were, apparently they've all been outsourced to India and they just send em via email.

Yeah, it's one of the many little things that keeps the game out of the "9" range for me. Not that that's a really big deal or anything, but it definitely takes some of the shine off of the game. Apparently the quest givers for those quests that are listed in your journal ARE supposed to be marked with a yellow exclamation point. Some of them are just out of the way or otherwise hard to spot.

Which leads me to another love/hate i have with the game - The glowing trail/bread crumb trail - you people leave it on? Or turn it off?

I'm kind of back and forth.

[johnperkins21]

You can still just stumble upon them as you have in the past. It is just that now some of them show up in you log when they become active in the same way that sales magically show up in your log so that you can direct the bread trail or fast travel to them. It only gives you the option to speed things up and gives those that don't hunt for everything another way to find side quests.

Ah, ok. So it's not the sole way they show up, it just lets you know that there's one available that you can go and get. That's cool. As long as I can still stumble upon some during my adventures.

[Elrik Murder]

Yeah, it's one of the many little things that keeps the game out of the "9" range for me. Not that that's a really big deal or anything, but it definitely takes some of the shine off of the game. Apparently the quest givers for those quests that are listed in your journal ARE supposed to be marked with a yellow exclamation point. Some of them are just out of the way or otherwise hard to spot.

Which leads me to another love/hate i have with the game - The glowing trail/bread crumb trail - you people leave it on? Or turn it off?

I'm kind of back and forth.

Off! Although I had to turn it on @ one point. When I got the music box I realized I couldn't just go into the nearest alleyway and open it. Had to be an exact spot.

Does anybody else notice that it seems your character is on ice while running/walking? Just file this under small annoyance.

[National Kato]

Which leads me to another love/hate i have with the game - The glowing trail/bread crumb trail - you people leave it on? Or turn it off?


It's on, but dim, for me. I hate that the Pause Screen map is so small and cannot be zoomed. So I use the trail to orient me a lot of the time. At least until I learn Albion a bit more.

[Virtual Machine]

It's on, but dim, for me. I hate that the Pause Screen map is so small and cannot be zoomed. So I use the trail to orient me a lot of the time. At least until I learn Albion a bit more.

another bone of contention to add to the list - but yeah, i'm pretty much using the pause screen map exclusively now.

[SPBTooL]

Which leads me to another love/hate i have with the game - The glowing trail/bread crumb trail - you people leave it on? Or turn it off? On but the brightness is set to low.

[Iron Past]

Ah, ok. So it's not the sole way they show up, it just lets you know that there's one available that you can go and get. That's cool. As long as I can still stumble upon some during my adventures.

Well, it lets you know where they are, but you still have to find the NPCs and accept the quest.

Oh, does anyone if those potions you find like Beetle Strength Potion or Hobbe Strength Potion are better to be used before or after a fight with said bad guy? Or does it matter?

[itchyeyes]

Some quests just appear in your quest log (Start menu). I'm not sure I like that, because I'd prefer to have to discover quests.
Bummer, I don't think I like that either. It kind of detracts from the game being about finding your own path in the world and creating your own story.

[Spigot]

I use the bread crumb trail but I basically move in the exact opposite direction from it. That's led me to all sorts of interesting places in the world as I attempt to avoid following the story :)

[johnperkins21]

Which leads me to another love/hate i have with the game - The glowing trail/bread crumb trail - you people leave it on? Or turn it off?

I'm kind of back and forth.

I turned it way down. Second to last option, can't remember what it was. It's there when I need it, but doesn't really detract from my constant meandering looking for lost treasure. Just because it's on, doesn't mean you have to follow it, but when you do want to get back on track, it's very helpful.

[Widgetcraft]

I beat the game earlier today; around nineteen hours of play, and there are still a ton of sidequests and other shit to do. RPG of the friggin decade for me; no contest. I'm now planning on my second play through. The first time through, I was good/pure, and I'm torn on making another good/pure character, a evil/corrupt character, an evil/pure character, or just a straight up chaotic bastard.

Well, it lets you know where they are, but you still have to find the NPCs and accept the quest.

Oh, does anyone if those potions you find like Beetle Strength Potion or Hobbe Strength Potion are better to be used before or after a fight with said bad guy? Or does it matter?

That has nothing to do with it; those just give you XP in the stat listed. The strength potions give you strength XP, the skill potions give you skill XP, the will potions give you will XP, and the XP potions give you general XP. I suggest simply using them when you pick them up, because if you horde a bunch (like I did, because I didn't know what they did) they become a pain in the ass to get rid of. The item UI kind of sucks in this game.

[Kelegacy]

Got the game from GF tonight, started it up, played 10-20 minutes, encountered a spot where I actually had to RESTART the game. I was boxed in an alley by adoring fans (kids), and couldn't get past them. I was like, WTF. A "bug" already? Terrible decision there. I would like the option to push through crowds like Assassin's Creed. Then I wouldn't experience game breakers like this.

I'm still in the first town, as a kid, trying to get the 5 coins. Had to stop for dinner, now I have company over. Will have to wait until tomorrow night for me to play again apparently.

[Spigot]

Stupid Grey's Anatomy and ER are keeping me from actually playing this while I'm still moderately conscious. Grr... When can the actors go on strike so that I can have my evenings back?

[DeathtollWRX]

Got the game from GF tonight, started it up, played 10-20 minutes, encountered a spot where I actually had to RESTART the game. I was boxed in an alley by adoring fans (kids), and couldn't get past them. I was like, WTF. A "bug" already? Terrible decision there. I would like the option to push through crowds like Assassin's Creed. Then I wouldn't experience game breakers like this.

I'm still in the first town, as a kid, trying to get the 5 coins. Had to stop for dinner, now I have company over. Will have to wait until tomorrow night for me to play again apparently.

Kel, sorry to hear you had a bad experience. Trust me on this though... The game is fun... REALLY fun.. It does have some bugs but it's gonna knock your socks off later down the line.

[Iron Past]

Stupid Grey's Anatomy and ER are keeping me from actually playing this while I'm still moderately conscious. Grr... When can the actors go on strike so that I can have my evenings back?

Hah! I'm in the same boat. My wife loves Grey's Anatomy, to I'd be an ass to take the TV. And I was having so much fun shooting those gargoyles in the face...

[Psykoboy2]

Got the game from GF tonight, started it up, played 10-20 minutes, encountered a spot where I actually had to RESTART the game.

You aren't the only one. We just got done recording a show where fishbang elaborates on his restart bug experience.

[Iron Past]

You aren't the only one. We just got done recording a show where fishbang elaborates on his restart bug experience.

Oh, good, there's a show for tomarrow. Out of curiosity, what happened to Wednesday's?

[Bingley Joe]

Got the game from GF tonight, started it up, played 10-20 minutes, encountered a spot where I actually had to RESTART the game. I was boxed in an alley by adoring fans (kids), and couldn't get past them. I was like, WTF. A "bug" already? Terrible decision there. I would like the option to push through crowds like Assassin's Creed. Then I wouldn't experience game breakers like this.

I'm still in the first town, as a kid, trying to get the 5 coins. Had to stop for dinner, now I have company over. Will have to wait until tomorrow night for me to play again apparently.

Damn... it's saddening how frequent the complaint about being boxed-in is.. and how simple the solution would be (your AC suggestion is perfect; not only would you clear crowds, but it would would completely fit the 'hero' aspects of the game-world in terms of the animation)

I had kind of a similar, but different problem -- I told my GF to go ahead and start her game while I made dinner. I mixed up a few martinis to start things off, and then got so distracted by watching her play that dinner turned out to be complete bullshit, and we pretty much filled up on martinis instead :p

[Psykoboy2]

Oh, good, there's a show for tomarrow. Out of curiosity, what happened to Wednesday's?

We haven't had a week go by yet that we've been happy with as far as distribution. Problems here, problems there...none having to do with the actual recording of the shows. All technical issues.

However, we have two shows already in the can. You'll have plenty to listen to for the weekend.

We hope.

[Goronmon]

Anyone know what the number for Purity/Corruption under the Attractiveness tab stands for? Mine is a red number that's getting bigger. For me, logic dictates that this means I am increasing my corruption somehow. I haven't been unable to find anything definitive on the web though.

[Wolvie]

*phew*

I just spent the last four days in Albion, And I have to say I am completely and utterly addicted to Fable 2. At first I thought buying this was a mistake, as the game starts out really slow. But once I got out of the training cave, the game quickly gained steam, and I soon forgot about the underwhelming beginning and found myself fully in the games grasp.

My greatest moments so far are:

Farting in a Hobo's face then having him laugh, then gag and tell me to "go see a doctor" as I walked away.

Getting propositioned by a prostitute, impatiently busting into a house and walking past a family eating at their dinner table, going upstairs and using the parents bed to have sex in, waking to find almost all my gold had been stolen during my hanky panky session, having a VERY pissed house owner ask me what the hell I thought I was doing and that he was going to call the guards, so I killed him, and the hooker for grins, then walked out the front door like a pimp.

Farting to make a cute little girl laugh... then shitting my pants because I held the expression for too long. And the the girl laughed at me and ran off.

Farting in the same hobo's face that I offended earlier, then shit my pants again, and he laughed at my pathetic display.

Hit on some chick that was very attracted to me, as a man whined about her being married. Then as I was getting close to her wanting to get married, the man exclaims that the woman is his wife and that I need to stop hitting on her... So I made a rude expression at him and walked away.

Walking into a bar and the bartender tells me he too is into cross dressing, and that he likes to wear bras and panties because they are soft... after I get over the "WTF?" moment, I remove all clothes and examine all of them, and discover that the cool coat with the rolled up sleeves was a chicks coat. So I sold it and bought a manlier coat.

That's all for now. I'll come back later and post more funny war stories.

Got the game from GF tonight, started it up, played 10-20 minutes, encountered a spot where I actually had to RESTART the game. I was boxed in an alley by adoring fans (kids), and couldn't get past them. I was like, WTF. A "bug" already? Terrible decision there. I would like the option to push through crowds like Assassin's Creed. Then I wouldn't experience game breakers like this.

I'm still in the first town, as a kid, trying to get the 5 coins. Had to stop for dinner, now I have company over. Will have to wait until tomorrow night for me to play again apparently.

There's a simple solution to this problem: Quick travel to a location nearby. You'll be warped to away from the blockade, and you'll be able to continue about your business. Problem solved.

[menage]

Bought it yesterday. Fucking love it (apart from little stuff like the trail thing and the appearing quests).

Only after one nights play I'm already stuck with a wife and kid, the life of an adventurer hey.

[Squidbot]

I just found a book called ORBS and the multiverse, discussing how your every action is played out in different ways by a Hero in a parallel universe :D

[Lekon]

Random awesomeness. "You are now famous enough to use the Kiss my Ass expression"

[Iron Past]

We haven't had a week go by yet that we've been happy with as far as distribution. Problems here, problems there...none having to do with the actual recording of the shows. All technical issues.

However, we have two shows already in the can. You'll have plenty to listen to for the weekend.

We hope.

Sounds good. I'm surprised how sad I get when I don't have the show to listen to.

On topic... I really don't have anything to add right now. Other than those gargoyles can be a pain, I spent I don't know how long for one that was constantly insulting me till I found it inside a house. What was he doing there!?

[Kelegacy]

You aren't the only one. We just got done recording a show where fishbang elaborates on his restart bug experience.

I had to restart AGAIN last night!!! I hadn't even bought the music box yet. I had SOMEHOW earned 6 coins out of 5...the game glitched after I did the last "mission". Well, I went to buy the box and couldn't. He wouldn't light up green, my "bread crumb trail" wouldn't work, I saved and reset...nothing. So for the second time in the same night I had to restart the game. I was ripped.

Probably ook me two hours to get a half hour into the game. A little irksome. Hopefully this weekend doesn't encounter anymore bugs.

Also, is it possible to save in different slots? Or can you only overwrite the same slot? I've got 3 saves right now, but that's from starting the game 3 different times because of bugs. If you can't, then it's EASY to get screwed I'm guessing.

[MachEnergy]

I suggest simply using them when you pick them up, because if you horde a bunch (like I did, because I didn't know what they did) they become a pain in the ass to get rid of. The item UI kind of sucks in this game.

QFT. I purchased a bunch of books for new emoticons and dog abilities, and quickly discovered how much of a pain it is to 1) pause the game, 2) navigate to "Items", 3) navigate to "Books", 4) navigate ALLLLLL they way to the bottom of the list, 5) activate chosen book, 6) wash-rinse-repeat.......all with a menu system that has noticeable lag to it

i've had other issues such as the message banner telling me "You need to buy new furniture to replace this item." never disappearing........seriously, i even saved/quit, played the next day, and the damn banner popped back up first thing! (finally went into edit furniture mode again, left the house, and it went away)

i've also had issues where i can't sleep........i played through numerous quests and whenever i would try to sleep in ANY bed (mine, Inn, random ones) i would get the message "You cannot sleep now.".......never an explanation as to WHY, so i had no idea how to fix it......this one seems to have gone away on it's own

i'm really sick of the AI pathfinding choking on simple tasks like entering a building...........i married a chick in bowerstone market, bought a local house, and it took her 10 minutes to properly orient herself to get into the door.........it didn't help that there was another woman in love with me, who was also trying to enter the house, but it got so annoying! i would even try to lead her away from the house, and slowly walk her back inside, and she would still get stuck! then woman #2 would wander back and clog the doorway making it even more diffiicult........FINALLY got her inside, it was our first time in the wedding house.......she wants me bad.......keeps talking about ripping my clothes off........click on the bed......

"You cannot sleep now."

goddamn game is giving my character blue balls

[Goronmon]

QFT. I purchased a bunch of books for new emoticons and dog abilities, and quickly discovered how much of a pain it is to 1) pause the game, 2) navigate to "Items", 3) navigate to "Books", 4) navigate ALLLLLL they way to the bottom of the list, 5) activate chosen book, 6) wash-rinse-repeat.......all with a menu system that has noticeable lag to itYeah, Lionhead definitely took a page out of the Bioware inventory playbook there. So annoying.

[Telefrog]

Last night, my wife fired up Fable II for the first time after watching me play yesterday. She gets through the tutorial and starts fooling around in Bowerstone and is having a grand time. I start messing around with fixing dinner and I hear "Dammit!" coming from the living room every few minutes. This gradually turns to harder and more emphatic cursing. Finally, I walk into the living room and see that my wife is playing the Blacksmithing minigame.

"What's wrong?" I asked.

My wife shot me a hateful glance and exclaimed, "This fucking smithy is killing me! I can't stop unless I max out my promotions."

"What!? Why?"

She paused the game and glared. "Because I can't let it beat me!"

This game is the new favorite in our house.

[Iron Past]

Last night, my wife fired up Fable II for the first time after watching me play yesterday. She gets through the tutorial and starts fooling around in Bowerstone and is having a grand time. I start messing around with fixing dinner and I hear "Dammit!" coming from the living room every few minutes. This gradually turns to harder and more emphatic cursing. Finally, I walk into the living room and see that my wife is playing the Blacksmithing minigame.

That blacksmith game is hard on higher levels. It doesn't help that the animation for the little ball thing isn't always very fluid, but it goes fast. I still have about 20K gold till I hit five stars, but I keep losing my multiplier so it'll take a while.

For Mach (and anyone else tired of popups), go into the menu and turn off tutorials, that way you don't get all those annoying messages. You're not missing any important info, trust me.

[Mdot]

I accidentally proposed to some dumb bitch last night after already having a wife and a kid. I felt so friggin guilty for some reason. I had to transport out of Bowerstone to Oakfield really quickly so my real wife wouldn't see, buy a house to seal the deal (since I couldn't find a way to cancel the engagement), and murder the impostor as quickly as possible. I just felt compelled to do it. The game has a grip on me.

And I can't scold my dog. Ever.

[divinechaos]

So there's only ONE save slot? I want to start a new game but continue the one I have but there's no option to load or save in a different slot.

[Rock Bandit]

Talking to your friend's floating orb is the true co-op. Me and Kieleran were roaming around Oakvale finding treasure and chatting and it was a blast. You could concievably get a huge party of friends together and just roam around together, talking.

Speaking of talking, some of the things NPC characters say can be hilarious and often for unintentional reasons. I bought a condom from a shopkeep at which point he felt the need to advice me that there were no refunds for purchased goods. This, of course, brought to mind a scenario of someone trying to return a used condom.

"Yes, I bought this condom from you the other day but I found it to be a bit itchy so I was hoping to return it."
"......"
"I make it a habit not to pay for products I do not desire so if you would kindly return my 5g I will give you back the condom."
"....I can't refund this."
"And why not?"
"Because it's full of your semen."
"Not all of it's mine."
"......"

[SPBTooL]

I believe that when you go to new game, chose a male or female and then it creates a slot. Up to 6 from what I've read. Later choosing continue will ask which slot. I have not done it but have read it online.

Has anyone come across the Gargoyles yet? I just read talk about them in another forum.

[MachEnergy]

I accidentally proposed to some dumb bitch last night after already having a wife and a kid. I felt so friggin guilty for some reason. I had to transport out of Bowerstone to Oakfield really quickly so my real wife wouldn't see, buy a house to seal the deal (since I couldn't find a way to cancel the engagement), and murder the impostor as quickly as possible. I just felt compelled to do it. The game has a grip on me.

And I can't scold my dog. Ever.

I don't have the heart to scold my dog either, but I never see it doing anything wrong that would be scold-worthy. He pissed in town once, but I was ok with that.

However, I'm really upset that I ruined my marriage! I was happily married to a Oakvale gal. We had a beautiful daughter together. Well I was looking for quests, and took the quest from the suicidal ghost that wanted revenge against his old fiance. I went along with it, but after making her fall in love with me, I realized that if I were to dump her as the quest required, I would tarnish my good character's karma. So I chose to marry her. She lived in Bowerstone, so the chances of her running into my "real" wife seemed slim.

I learned a valuable lesson soon afterwards. If you have multiple wives, and you have told one wife to follow you, DON'T then pull up your family log and choose to travel to another wife. The new zone loaded, and as I was running toward my "real" wife, I noticed the new one running right behind me! They encountered each other, and in no time, I was divorced. She took my little girl with her too! I have scoured Oakvale in search for her, but I can't find her anywhere.

I'm such a douche. The funny thing is, my RL life scolded me because I should have been honest in the game......even though I was just trying to do the "good" thing for my character. I miss my family.

[SPBTooL]

Speaking of talking, some of the things NPC characters say can be hilarious and often for unintentional reasons. I bought a condom from a shopkeep at which point he felt the need to advice me that there were no refunds for purchased goods. This, of course, brought to mind a scenario of someone trying to return a used condom. I was doing some smithing in Bowerstone and had a blast listening to the kids playing. The stuff they were saying varied from hints of Fable 1 to complete scifi. Have you listen to any of the NPCs dreaming? One in the Gypsy camp was all "Oh yea, that's my big sword. Mmm, and my shield..oh, oh, MY SHIELD".

[Iron Past]

So there's only ONE save slot? I want to start a new game but continue the one I have but there's no option to load or save in a different slot.

If you start a new game, you get another slot. There are six (the numer of cards on the continue screen).

SPB, I've shot about seven, I think. After you buy the ability to aim your shots manualy, they'll start insulting you when you walk past them, and you have to shoot them. There are fifty in all and shooting them (all) gets a treasure, which I've decided I need. The Submenu "Regions" tells you how many are hidden in each area.

[SPBTooL]

She took my little girl with her too! I have scoured Oakvale in search for her, but I can't find her anywhere.Check the orphanages for you daughter.

[Mdot]

Hahaha, Mach that's great. I actually first married the chick from the Ghost mission, so I was pretty safe in that regard. Side note: anybody know how long it takes for your kid to actually grow and starting walking around? Mines been laying there forever and i want to play with the little fucker already.

SPBTool, the gargoyles are all over the place. It's easy to notice them cause they yell shit at you and taunt you in this annoying voice. However, I didnt start destroying them till last night when I leveled up my Skill enough to free aim with my gun. They're mostly all up high, so you need to be able to shoot up at them.

[MalReynolds]

Finished as of yesterday


first time anyway

[itchyeyes]

Finished as of yesterday
and?

How long did it take you? What are the quests like that open up after you finish the main quest? Are they trivial or is there some substance to them?

[divinechaos]

So last night at around 6pm my friend and I start playing co-op. He never in his life played Fable and he's not a huge fan of the 360 so I was already waiting for the
"Fuck this game, let's play something else" moment. Fast-foward 2 hours later, he's tried out all the magic and he's telling me he wants a higher cut of the EXP because it's taking him forever to level up his Shock magic.

At around hour 3 he starts getting bored because my character is "too nice." I tell him he can do a B&E and maybe that'll shut him up. He breaks into this house-me just watching him and following- and kills the owner. The guards rush in and want ME to pay for the shit HE'S done. I was about to choose the community service option but he says "Fuck the police, we got magic, let's pillage this village!" At first I hesitated but then I said "Eh, what the hell, I'm not even gonna save so let's do it."

6 hours later, we've gone to every town and killed everything that moves. We leveled up like crazy, I bought all the best weapons and I looked evil as shit and so did my dog. Point is, being evil in this game is a LOT more fun that being boring and bland. Fuck it if I can't get married or no one likes me, it's much better to be feared.

So when I'm driving my friend back I turn to him and ask "So, is that a system seller for you?" to which he answered "Yea, I guess if I didn't hate the 360 so much I would be inclined to buy me one." Mission accomplished thanks to Fable II.

[Wolvie]

So there's only ONE save slot? I want to start a new game but continue the one I have but there's no option to load or save in a different slot.

You can have many save slots. Just start a new game and when it auto saves, the game will automatically start a new file for you. All ya gotta do is pick between whatever file you want when you continue a game. The file system is cool too since each file looks like a playing card.

Edit: damn Iron Past beat me to it. Also I haven't ran into any of the glitches I've heard here. Like the one that won't allow you to sleep, or the one where you can't finish the (boring)childhood intro.
I did have a problem after I married a girl from Bowerstone, and moved her into the gypsy caravan house my character owned(the only house I owned at the time. What would happen is, I'd start using flirty emotes and when she was ready to go, I'd click the bed and the game would say "cannot use bed with enemies nearby."
I made the obligatory WTF face and went out looking for enemies, maybe guards looking to collect a fine or something, and saw nothing but villagers. So I go back and get the message again after I get her back in the mood.
At this point I'm getting annoyed so I go out to see what the hell is going on, and start scouring the village, and find two of the gypsies are red and hostile toward me, yet they ran every time I approach them.
As I chase them I remembered WAY back when I did my first mission for the assassin association, I came here and offed two people in two different jobs and had to kill some villagers in the ensuing fallout from both murders.
Evidently they were survivors, and remembered my actions. Which was cool because that was supposed to happen in Fable 1... well anyways, I chase them both down, shoot them like dogs, and go back and get it on with my wife in peace, and make our first(and currently only) baby. This game does indeed love to give your poor character blue balls.

[TheEvilNarwhale]

I am absolutely loving the game. Right now I am playing through kind of middle of the road. Not to good or evil or pure or corrupt. I was a little bummed that I didn't get 10 years worth of gold from my property after rescuing garth.

[Mortis]

Has anyone come across the Gargoyles yet? I just read talk about them in another forum.

I have 9, I kept hearing that voice talking shit but I didn't know what was going on, then I spotted one with it's glowing eyes after I got the map and promptly blasted it. Surround sound helps to locate them, there are like 3 in the graveyard.

To get the gargoyle map go to the graveyard and in one of the small tombs there is a target to shoot, keep following it and shooting it then bash it at the end and you will get the map.

[SPBTooL]

I think I missed the Gargoyles because most of my time has been spent in Oakvale. The funny thing is that I found the place they unlock early on and was kike "WTF is this place? All the doors are locked." I'm going to hunt for some tonight.

[evilgoodwin]

I'm up to 32. I wouldn't have bothered if one hadn't been taunting me from inside the carriage place in Bowerstone. Had to position myself and shoot blindly to hit it because of the camera not showing exactly where I was aiming because it had to be right between the edge of the wall and the carriage. Got him though. Bastard.


...I hate them so much >_<

[Mdot]

I'm up to 32. I wouldn't have bothered if one hadn't been taunting me from inside the carriage place in Bowerstone. Had to position myself and shoot blindly to hit it because of the camera not showing exactly where I was aiming because it had to be right between the edge of the wall and the carriage. Got him though. Bastard.


...I hate them so much >_<

I think that's the one I was looking for last night. God, did that shit piss me off.

[Sazime]

I'm enjoying this game, even tough it combines properties from some of the most boring action RPGs I've played. They just managed to combine the fun things and get rid of a lot of the boring ones.

Also, job training for the realty win. I think I own ~$500k in property.

[Variable Gear]

I would like to share my my story of unlocking the Bigamist achievement.

I married this gypsy in the the first area, made her follow me someplace where no one was watching, and I killed her dead.

That is all...

[Kelegacy]

Does this game have motion blurring for anyone else? Yeah, I'm playing on an LCD HDTV so there will be SOME blurring perhaps, but this is the first time I've noticed it this much. Other games don't seem to have it. At first I thought it would be an option I could turn off in the Options menu, like the trails in GTA games, but it wasn't.

I also don't think the sound is the greatest. It's weird sometimes. I'm still very early in the game, just wondering about stuff. I don't think the game is as beautiful as it's been made out to be, though it doesn't look terrible; it looks like an upgraded Fable basically. It did have me messing with my cables to make sure everything was plugged in right, with that weird motion blurring. I guess it could be my tv, but this is the first time I've noticed it.

EDIT: A quick Google shows I'm not crazy. At least not completely. Guess it's noticeable by some others. They call it a "blurry camera".

[Sazime]

There's some blur when you get a "finishing move" type action. Other than that, yeah. For the most part I feel like someone gave a graphical upgrade to Dark Alliance and put the camera behind the character.

There are some sound issues, but they seem to be minor. Check to see you're on Stereo and not 5.1 in the Options menu (for one). Other than that, when a quest giver starts talking, you can generally hear them right next to you no matter how far away you get.

[EternalGamer]

I'm really liking the slower paced rhythm of the combat. It's not God of War and it's not supposed to be. It makes you think more about how you are approaching a group of enemies rather than just mashing "attack." I love, for example, using the time slow down, and "slide" between close enemies while tossing crossbow shots out at the ones that are at a distance. It feels like a more sophisticated version of Assassin's Creed's combat system as it has that same rhythm. When you go through a group of six or seven enemies seemlessly it can sometimes feel close to well choeoraphed action scene. The slowdown and the motion blurring just adds to the effect.

However, I do wish the camera was more dynamic. I would love for it to pan to characters faces when they talk, for example, or do SOMETHING the try to frame events. It just feels lazy most of the time. I would actually rather it be a bit more intrusive for the sake of the cinematograhy (at least outside of battles). I loved the "fat Naruto" heroine monk. The dungeon you went through with her is what sold me on the game. I hope it has more great scripted moments like that in store.

I also like the "Gears of War" camera highlights on things. In fact, I almost find myself wishing the game had just stolen Gears entire close up third person camera style rather than the distant floaty one they currently use. That would have been interesting.

[evilgoodwin]

Well, finally have a bug that's pissing me off. After going through the story for a bit, my wife disappeared and my daughter is just standing where the crib was and will not respond to me at all. So it's only a matter of time before my invisible wife divorces me and takes my unresponsive daughter away (T_T)

And for reference, It happened at the Homestead house.