View Full Version : Buy a PS3?
Murtaug
10-28-2009, 02:17 AM
Okay, maybe this thread is pointless as I have pretty much talked myself into it at this point, but I need some outside influence one way or the other.
I want a PS3, but I do not need one.
The price drop, the release of Uncharted 2 and my want to play that series, along with some of the other exclusives make me really want to grab this thing. I really would not mind having the Blu-Ray player too as I am a rabid movie nut and while grabbing HD-DVD titles on the cheap has been great, I am pretty much tapped out on what I can grow that collection with at this point.
So I am reaching out here and going to use the poll from this thread to make my choice before I leave work at four PM this afternoon and either grab one or not.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 04:28 AM
If there are enough exclusives that interest you, you really want the BR player, and it's not going to kill you financially, do it! :)
Abednigo
10-28-2009, 04:31 AM
As someone who since the PS3 came out had been saying, "I'll never buy a PS3", and who then bought the Slim a month ago, you must buy one. I bought it mainly as the first step to going HD (I don't have an HD TV yet), and I don't play games a ton these days, but I downloaded a few demos including Uncharted and the Uncharted 2 Multiplayer demo (which were unbelievable!), and borrowed MGS4 from a coworker (also unbelievable!) and it really is a sweet system. For the new price you really won't find a better deal out there on something this awesome.
civil
10-28-2009, 04:48 AM
http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/866/866142/valkyria-chronicles-20080411040200013_640w.jpg
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 05:43 AM
As someone who since the PS3 came out had been saying, "I'll never buy a PS3", and who then bought the Slim a month ago, you must buy one. I bought it mainly as the first step to going HD (I don't have an HD TV yet), and I don't play games a ton these days, but I downloaded a few demos including Uncharted and the Uncharted 2 Multiplayer demo (which were unbelievable!), and borrowed MGS4 from a coworker (also unbelievable!) and it really is a sweet system. For the new price you really won't find a better deal out there on something this awesome.
I agree. The PS3 is a fantastic machine, whatever version people get. It's a solid machine with some really awesome games. It has become my favorite system, I think. It really does feel next-gen.
Some bumps happened along the way to greatness, but I hope Sony makes the PS4 even better because of these earlier missteps. But right now there is little reason not to own a PS3...if you are interested in any of the games anyway.
Oh, and since I hate the NXE with a passion (I think it's counter-intuitive) the PS3's XMB is a godsend for me.
itchyeyes
10-28-2009, 05:56 AM
I'm going to go ahead and be the one to say no, or at least not right now. The reason I say wait is because we're smack dab in the middle of the holiday rush. That PS3 might look very appealing at the moment, but it's not as if you're going to have a shortage of things to play without it right now. Wait until early next year, when the new releases start to wind down, then pick it up. At the very least you'll probably save a few bucks on the games and the only thing you'll really miss out on is the online conversation that surrounds new releases.
Serapth
10-28-2009, 05:59 AM
I frankly can't see a point if you own an Xbox 360. Not trolling here, just as an Xbox owner, there hasnt really been a game on PS3 that screamed BUY ME yet, and other than that, both machines pretty much have feature parity. Uncharted and Little Big Planet seem about the only two big exclusive games and neither one is a system seller (for me).
Maybe when GT5 actually ships, that might be enough, but frankly I will probably skip the PS3 this generation.
Yeti2005
10-28-2009, 06:18 AM
I hate threads like this. Most of the time the OP already knows whether they want to buy X or not and it ends up turning into a pissing match between those that like X and those that don't like X. I only say "X" because I've seen this type of thread in numerous audio/video forums as well (i.e. "Should I buy an Onkyo receiver? Convince me one way or the other.")
To the OP, you're the only one who knows whether you should buy the PS3 or not. If you're on the fence then buy it, rent some games, play it for a while and see if you like it. If it doesn't appeal then return it. Hundreds or thousands of anonymous votes/posts in one direction or another shouldn't sway your decision.
Edit: Sorry if this comes up a little grumpy but I haven't had my morning coffee.
nitetrain
10-28-2009, 06:24 AM
i was an avid microsoft fan boy since the launch of the first Xbox...after a few years i finaly bought a Ps2 sometime in '05 and fel in love...once both the 360 and PS3 finally launched i weighedmy options and went with the PS3 and has never had any regrets since then.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 06:27 AM
I'm going to go ahead and be the one to say no, or at least not right now. The reason I say wait is because we're smack dab in the middle of the holiday rush. That PS3 might look very appealing at the moment, but it's not as if you're going to have a shortage of things to play without it right now. Wait until early next year, when the new releases start to wind down, then pick it up. At the very least you'll probably save a few bucks on the games and the only thing you'll really miss out on is the online conversation that surrounds new releases.
What, you mean early next year where we'll have God of War III, Splinter Cell Conviction, White Knight Chronicles, Alan Wake, M.A.G., Mass Effect 2, Final Fantasy XIII, Bioshock 2, Dark Void, Bayonetta, and Heavy Rain, along with at least a few others that I know I've forgotten. Sure, it'll be a nice calm period then. :p
I frankly can't see a point if you own an Xbox 360. Not trolling here, just as an Xbox owner, there hasnt really been a game on PS3 that screamed BUY ME yet, and other than that, both machines pretty much have feature parity. Uncharted and Little Big Planet seem about the only two big exclusive games and neither one is a system seller (for me).
Maybe when GT5 actually ships, that might be enough, but frankly I will probably skip the PS3 this generation.
Eh, it's the exclusives that matter for a decision like this, so that's different for anyone. If you like the exclusives, go for it. Hell, this month alone Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, and the new Ratchet would be more than enough for me.
Dukefrukem
10-28-2009, 06:54 AM
who the fuck would vote no?
MrBibbz
10-28-2009, 07:27 AM
Not even going to vote, but going to give the advice that I always tell people when they ask what to get...Is it going to have games that you're going to want to buy and features that you will want to use? Yes? Then get it. No? Then stick to what you've got.
TheFlyingOrc
10-28-2009, 07:53 AM
Nevvar!!!!!!!!
violent
10-28-2009, 07:56 AM
My PS3 gets more play these days than my 360. Though I was tempted to play GRAW 2 the other night.
total
10-28-2009, 07:59 AM
The best thing about the PS3 is turning it on and not being in constant fear it is going to die. I'd say do it. I've got about 30 PSN titles and bunches of exclusives.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 08:00 AM
What, you mean early next year where we'll have God of War III, Splinter Cell Conviction, White Knight Chronicles, Alan Wake, M.A.G., Mass Effect 2, Final Fantasy XIII, Bioshock 2, Dark Void, Bayonetta, and Heavy Rain, along with at least a few others that I know I've forgotten. Sure, it'll be a nice calm period then. :p
The PS3 is getting Mass Effect 2?
As for exclusives, they are the reason I bought a PS3. Tons of great games for the system. I can't afford them all right now.
I was a 360 player exclusively for the last 3+ years, but now that I own a PS3 I have ignored my 360. But there is room for both systems and am glad I don't have to choose between the two.
...but if I had to, it would be the PS3. No annual fees really attract me and with achievements (trophies) I don't have much reason to game on the 360 other than exclusives or multiplatform games that run better on the 360, which is rarer these days.
Not to mention PSN titles are pretty darn good. I think the deals are more frequent and better than 360 (where they are almost non-existent) and prices of PSN games seem to be more fair (Critter Crunch for 6.99, for example), and the free stuff seems to come more often. The free stuff on 360 is usually just McDonalds or Subway or the most recent movie themes or gamer pictures. Blah.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 08:17 AM
The PS3 is getting Mass Effect 2?
Nope, I was just listing all the games I could think of that people would look forward to last year. Heck, Alan Wake would have been the one I would have latched on to. :P
Looking at what will be out next year for the PS3:
3D Dot Game Heroes
Atelier Rorona
Final Fantasy XIV
God of War 3
Gran Turismo 5
Heavy Rain
Last Guardian (hopefully)
Last Rebellion
ModNation Racers
M.A.G.
Quantum Theory
Star Ocean The Last Hope International (new content)
Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll
White Knight Chronicles
Yakuza 3 (hopefully)
Those are all next year. You could take out the two "hopefully" games, and maybe the enhanced Star Ocean, but that's pretty good lineup to look forward to, and most of that is for the first half of next year. Not a bad library to give yourself access to, not taking into account the other games that have come out, especially this year.
Cyndair
10-28-2009, 08:22 AM
Why not? It pretty much does EVERYTHING.
Joking aside, it's a really slick piece of hardware with some great exclusives. I own a PS3 and not a 360 and I haven't found myself wanting at all this generation. Especially lately. At 300 dollars it really is an incredible value.
Serapth
10-28-2009, 08:23 AM
I was going to try Star Ocean out on the 360 then a friend warned me that the dialog was bad, very very very bad. I know that playing jRpgs often means taking a small ( ok, epically huge! ) step down in expectations for good dialog, but then I saw a SO clip. OMG... the pain... the pain.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 08:28 AM
I was going to try Star Ocean out on the 360 then a friend warned me that the dialog was bad, very very very bad. I know that playing jRpgs often means taking a small ( ok, epically huge! ) step down in expectations for good dialog, but then I saw a SO clip. OMG... the pain... the pain.
That's a very good reason to stay far, far away. Many games in the genre have made so much progress in that area, like just about any game these days put out by Atlus, NIS, or XSEED, that the games that do it badly (a lot of stuff from SE, sadly, FFXI excluded :p) stick out even worse than before. So far I think the best option for a JRPG on the 360 is Lost Odyssey by far, though I've yet to play it. :(
Telefrog
10-28-2009, 08:42 AM
At this point, why not get a PS3?
Karak
10-28-2009, 08:49 AM
If you have a 360 and we are talking mostly games then no.
If you do not have a 360 and also are thinking about BR its a good deal.
I went with a 99.00 stand alone BR with good ratings because I didn't have the money to get a PS3 and I am very happy with it. Good stand alone's do exist. But they won't play the PS3's exclusive games:)
For me it's always a cost versus features thing. Need versus want.
I made my choice long ago and got a PS3 and then changed my mind and got a 360 and so my want to rebuy a system I already has is probably lower than someone who hasn't had one at all.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 08:51 AM
At this point, why not get a PS3?
That's probably the best question. Not SHOULD I?, but rather Why SHOULDN'T I?
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 08:54 AM
If you have a 360 and we are talking mostly games then no.
Wrong. At this point, unless you have very specific tastes, I really can't see how that would be the case.
To play devil's advocate, the best argument I could make against getting one, money aside, is time. That would go for buying either a PS3 or 360 if you're a current owner of one or the other. There are so many good to great games out for both right now that unless you have a lot of time to game you're not going to get to all of them on even one platform, let alone both.
Karak
10-28-2009, 09:05 AM
Wrong. At this point, unless you have very specific tastes, I really can't see how that would be the case.
To play devil's advocate, the best argument I could make against getting one, money aside, is time. That would go for buying either a PS3 or 360 if you're a current owner of one or the other. There are so many good to great games out for both right now that unless you have a lot of time to game you're not going to get to all of them on even one platform, let alone both.
Gotcha.
My opinion wrong.
Same old Gorvi.
Wrong. At this point, unless you have very specific tastes, I really can't see how that would be the case.I don't know how Sony has managed to stay in business. If you are to believe some people neither the PSP or PS3 have any games.
To play devil's advocate, the best argument I could make against getting one, money aside, is time. That would go for buying either a PS3 or 360 if you're a current owner of one or the other. There are so many good to great games out for both right now that unless you have a lot of time to game you're not going to get to all of them on even one platform, let alone both.Exactly!
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 09:12 AM
Gotcha.
My opinion wrong.
Same old Gorvi.
Gotcha.
PS3 not worth it for games.
Same old Karak.
[Insert Rolls Eyes Smiley]
Seriously, you're coming from an angle that just doesn't hold up anymore, did you really think nobody was going to disagree with you that the PS3 wasn't worth buying for the games? Really?
Karak
10-28-2009, 09:25 AM
Gotcha.
PS3 not worth it for games.
Same old Karak.
[Insert Rolls Eyes Smiley]
Seriously, you're coming from an angle that just doesn't hold up anymore, did you really think nobody was going to disagree with you that the PS3 wasn't worth buying for the games? Really?
Disagree perhaps, but that would come from someone who has an opinion. You state truth like you alone hold it.
But you have no interest in even looking at your own posts in previous threads where you yourself have pointed out that many of the "unique/exclusive games" on the PS3 is why some would like it.
However, you are incapable it seems to understand that from the other side where, perhaps...someone else is not exactly into those unique exclusives. Having owned the PS3 I see it's merits, just as I see the Wii's merits, but my opinion is that those exclusives are not of a kind I like.
So I stated what I did and did not like as many here are done.
Blarg I guess I won't continue.
Its probably just wrong.
I said it was worth it for some reasons. I apologize to you that the reasons I would buy it are different than you.
So I will take the high road that you can not.
I feel it is worth buying. You can agree with that, or you can agree and post why my reasons for buying it are dumb.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 09:32 AM
Disagree perhaps, but that would come from someone who has an opinion. You state truth like you alone hold it.
But you have no interest in even looking at your own posts in previous threads where you yourself have pointed out that many of the "unique/exclusive games" on the PS3 is why some would like it.
However, you are incapable it seems to understand that from the other side where, perhaps...someone else is not exactly into those unique exclusives. Having owned the PS3 I see it's merits, just as I see the Wii's merits, but my opinion is that those exclusives are not of a kind I like.
So I stated what I did and did not like as many here are done.
Blarg I guess I won't continue.
Its probably just wrong.
I said it was worth it for some reasons. I apologize to you that the reasons I would buy it are different than you.
Telling someone that it's not worth it for games is just wrong, a blanket statement like that is misleading, implying that the library is severly lacking. If you're not into the exclusives, don't buy the thing, but that much should be obvious.
The vast majority of 360 exclusives don't appeal to me, but me saying that it isn't worth it for the games for someone else would just be stupid. For me, it wouldn't, but that's not who'd be doing the buying.
The only correct answer to the question in the OP is to buy it if there are enough exclusives that make the purchase feel justified, so long as their budget allows for it with both time and money. Telling someone to buy it or not buy it absolutely just doesn't work, everyone has different tastes.
Karak
10-28-2009, 09:36 AM
Telling someone that it's not worth it for games is just wrong, a blanket statement like that is misleading, implying that the library is severly lacking. If you're not into the exclusives, don't buy the thing, but that much should be obvious.
The vast majority of 360 exclusives don't appeal to me, but me saying that it isn't worth it for the games for someone else would just be stupid. For me, it wouldn't, but that's not who'd be doing the buying.
The only correct answer to the question in the OP is to buy it if there are enough exclusives that make the purchase feel justified, so long as their budget allows for it with both time and money. Telling someone to buy it or not buy it absolutely just doesn't work, everyone has different tastes.
So now you know the only "Correct answer to the Question in the OP"?
Jesus dude, if this was in any other thread, you would be all over someone who posted something like that. I know you would because you have attacked people for just this kind of thing in other threads. And RIGHTFULLY so.
Whatever.
Maybe he should change the choices to "Yes" and "Whatever Gorvi says"
I am out, I said why I would buy it and why I wouldn't.
Stealth control the thread whatever way you want.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 09:41 AM
So now you know the only "Correct answer to the Question in the OP"?
Jesus dude, if this was in any other thread, you would be all over someone who posted something like that.
Whatever.
Maybe he should change the choices to "Yes" and "Whatever Gorvi says"
I am out, I said why I would buy it and why I wouldn't.
Stealth control the thread whatever way you want.
You disagree with that? Rather than getting defensive and saying absolutely that I'm wrong with no context, why not make a counter argument? That's how debate/discussion is supposed to work, not just throwing down your bat and ball and pouting. I disagreed with you, you don't like that, so why not say why what I said is wrong? Explain why what you said is more applicable to the situation.
Primus
10-28-2009, 09:52 AM
As a regretful PS3 and Wii owner, skip them. You'll buy it for one or two games, beat them, and then watch the thing collect dust.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 09:53 AM
I think that when they say the exclusives of the PS3 or 360 don't appeal to them but they like the exclusives on the other system....well, it reeks.
Gears of War vs. Uncharted. They are not the same, but are the closest to one another. Cover systems, shooting baddies, third person action, etc.
Crackdown vs. InFamous
Forza vs. GT
Halo vs. Resistance or Killzone
etc, etc.
I can't really compare Ratchet to anything...maybe Kameo? Same goes for MotorStorm and Folklore and LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 and Demon's Souls...nothing quite like them on 360 for exclusives at all. Meanwhile there is no comparison for Fable 2 or Mass Effect I guess.
If you like the exclusives of either system and say that the other's exclusives suck or don't appeal to you, you might be incorrect. Take a closer look. ;)
Karak
10-28-2009, 09:58 AM
You disagree with that? Rather than getting defensive and saying absolutely that I'm wrong with no context, why not make a counter argument? That's how debate/discussion is supposed to work, not just throwing down your bat and ball and pouting. I disagreed with you, you don't like that, so why not say why what I said is wrong? Explain why what you said is more applicable to the situation.
Ok I said I was going to move on...
So this post and what I am going to write I take full responcibility for.
But-Do you not get enough love?
I simply ask because...you just reversed everything that happened in those couple posts like a 3rd grade debate team member, and am now adding that I said you are "wrong without context"?
You have the absolute thoughts and positions, not I. I posted my opinion and reason and explained it. You did nothing to disprove it, you said your opinion and then stated very clearly there was only one way to correctly answer. You did that, go back and read it. You.
This is not 3rd grade where you can point to someone else and say they did it.
I can not figure out if you are pretending, adding stuff where there is none, or trully are not paying any attention.
And perhaps I am just getting old and cranky but I do not like bullshit posts that attempt to reverse positioning. Do not pretend it is suddenly reversed, read my post then read yours, then mine then yours and back and forth blah blah.
Do not ever put words in my mouth or down on here and pretend they are mine.
Ever.
We have gotten off course on a very simple subject.
Karak
10-28-2009, 10:03 AM
I think that when they say the exclusives of the PS3 or 360 don't appeal to them but they like the exclusives on the other system....well, it reeks.
Gears of War vs. Uncharted. They are not the same, but are the closest to one another. Cover systems, shooting baddies, third person action, etc.
Crackdown vs. InFamous
Forza vs. GT
Halo vs. Resistance or Killzone
etc, etc.
I can't really compare Ratchet to anything...maybe Kameo? Same goes for MotorStorm and Folklore and LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 and Demon's Souls...nothing quite like them on 360 for exclusives at all. Meanwhile there is no comparison for Fable 2 or Mass Effect I guess.
If you like the exclusives of either system and say that the other's exclusives suck or don't appeal to you, you might be incorrect. Take a closer look. ;)
You make a valid point however, by saying that they are alike, you MAY also be minimizing their purchase push.
If you could break it down to-
Exclusives are all somewhat alike.
Exclusives are pretty different.
You still have opinions both ways.
Exclusives are all somewhat alike can make people think that perhaps 300 for another system is not worth it. Something said for both the 360 and the PS3.
Exclusives that are different could push someone to pay attention to the different ones and find no reason to spend 300 for exclusives that don't pull them.
Thus it comes down to cost versus opinion of what is on the system and what draws the attention of the probable buyer.
One good example of this is Forza. If a person thinks 300 is worth ANOTHER game like it, boom they can buy it. But it's still 300+50 bucks. If they think that its NOT worth another they do not. One requires 350.00 the other requires sacrifice.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 10:15 AM
Ok I said I was going to move on...
So this post and what I am going to write I take full responcibility for.
But-Do you not get enough love?
No, my wife and kids hate me. Really, this is a call for help, please, do something, I'm drowning over here.
I simply ask because...you just reversed everything that happened in those couple posts like a 3rd grade debate team member, and am now adding that I said you are "wrong without context"?
Reversed how exactly? You said it wasn't worth it for the games, I said that was wrong and stated why. I don't see where any position changed, care to explain?
You have the absolute thoughts and positions, not I. I posted my opinion and reason and explained it. You did nothing to disprove it, you said your opinion and then stated very clearly there was only one way to correctly answer. You did that, go back and read it. You.
The fact that you (and by you I mean anyone) can't make a decision for someone else is a pretty damn safe bet to make, and I'll say that as an absolute. Telling someone to make a decision for themself is the right way to go unless you're trying to say that you're intimately aware of the OP's likes and dislikes and can tell that he wouldn't be happy with the games out there.
This is not 3rd grade where you can point to someone else and say they did it.
I can not figure out if you are pretending, adding stuff where there is none, or trully are not paying any attention.
What the hell are you even talking about?
And perhaps I am just getting old and cranky but I do not like bullshit posts that attempt to reverse positioning. Do not pretend it is suddenly reversed, read my post then read yours, then mine then yours and back and forth blah blah.
Do not ever put words in my mouth or down on here and pretend they are mine.
Ever.
We have gotten off course on a very simple subject.
Is that supposed to be one of those internet tough guy threats? Gee, thanks. I disagreed and explained why I disagree, and gave a counter argument. The only thing you've ever said that's actually on topic is that you don't think it's worth it for games if you own a 360, past that you've just been attacking my posts that take issue with what you said.
If you'd like to continue the debate, just PM me, this has gone far enough OT.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 10:17 AM
No, I'm saying that if you like a certain genre or a specific title you may like another that has some similarities. These are not clones, but they might share certain gameplay elements, genre, etc. Obviously Uncharted is not like Gears of War, but if you like one you might like the other.
It's like a mom going into Gamestop and saying, "My son likes Halo, are there any other titles like it that he might enjoy as well?"
I get a lot of good recommendations on Netflix of the "if you like this you might also consider this" sort. Spaghetti and pizza are not the same, but both contain red sauce. If you like tomato sauce you could find yourself trying both simply because of the sauce but end up enjoying the different tastes of each for their own unique reasons. The sauce was just the gateway into trying something different.
Norse
10-28-2009, 10:19 AM
Most of the points I'm about to make are mentioned already, but I'll give my thoughts anyway.
It all comes down to a combination of three factors; Time, money and game library
The first thing to consider is if you have the time and money to spend on the PS3. If yes; go ahead and buy one. I had both a PS3 and a 360 until recently, but since didn't have time for both I had to make a choice. I decided to sell my PS3, since I enjoyed the controller, the exclusives, the GUI and XBLA more than I enjoyed Sony's counterpart. It was a close call actually. If I had time, I would have kept it.
You should list the PS3 exclusives you really want. If there are more than 3-4 games, I would say it's worth it. For me it's the Uncharted games, God of War and Last Guardian that warrants a place on the list. Not enough to make me consider a PS3 again, but there will be more games down the road. If you can wait there could be another price cut next year if they continue to cut production cost.
Karak
10-28-2009, 10:25 AM
If you'd like to continue the debate, just PM me, this has gone far enough OT.
It hasn't been a debate since the start. I am glad you have finally agreed to move on. Thanks.
PS
No, I do not believe in tough guy threats. I was simply saying to never do something.
Karak
10-28-2009, 10:26 AM
No, I'm saying that if you like a certain genre or a specific title you may like another that has some similarities. These are not clones, but they might share certain gameplay elements, genre, etc. Obviously Uncharted is not like Gears of War, but if you like one you might like the other.
It's like a mom going into Gamestop and saying, "My son likes Halo, are there any other titles like it that he might enjoy as well?"
I get a lot of good recommendations on Netflix of the "if you like this you might also consider this" sort. Spaghetti and pizza are not the same, but both contain red sauce. If you like tomato sauce you could find yourself trying both simply because of the sauce but end up enjoying the different tastes of each for their own unique reasons. The sauce was just the gateway into trying something different.
Agreed. But again it all comes down to money. Game plus system is 350.00. So is 350.00 worth it for same sauce. OR are you more interested in perhaps COMPLETELY different tastes such as those exclusives that both systems have that are on the fringe.
I still think that is why it "seems" to be more likely to own a 360 or PS3 with a Wii as your additional system. Because the difference is easier to instantly see(sometimes for the worse ha)
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 10:38 AM
Okay, maybe this thread is pointless as I have pretty much talked myself into it at this point, but I need some outside influence one way or the other.
I want a PS3, but I do not need one.
The price drop, the release of Uncharted 2 and my want to play that series, along with some of the other exclusives make me really want to grab this thing. I really would not mind having the Blu-Ray player too as I am a rabid movie nut and while grabbing HD-DVD titles on the cheap has been great, I am pretty much tapped out on what I can grow that collection with at this point.
So I am reaching out here and going to use the poll from this thread to make my choice before I leave work at four PM this afternoon and either grab one or not.
So far it looks like you'll be buying a PS3. :) Congratulations!
Do you know what you want besides Uncharted 2? Have you played Uncharted 1? I'd say swing by Best Buy and do the buy 2 get one free sale. I heard that if you make the MIDDLE game the most expensive (if they differ in price) you can get that one for free instead of the cheapest. Saw it over at Cheapassgamer with people saying it worked for them. It depends on how they ring it up.
You can buy the first two Uncharted games and a third game that strikes your fancy. :)
Karak
10-28-2009, 10:55 AM
I'd say swing by Best Buy and do the buy 2 get one free sale. I heard that if you make the MIDDLE game the most expensive (if they differ in price) you can get that one for free instead of the cheapest. Saw it over at Cheapassgamer with people saying it worked for them.
Walk me through this please. Thats awesome.
So go in and purposefully hand them to the person at the register with the middle game being the more expensive one?
That's awesome.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 10:56 AM
Walk me through this please. Thats awesome.
So go in and purposefully hand them to the person at the register with the middle game being the more expensive one?
That's awesome.
It's happened for more than a couple people according to the thread at CAG. I might have to try it. If it rings up more expensive I can just say no thanks.
Karak
10-28-2009, 10:58 AM
It's happened for more than a couple people according to the thread at CAG. I might have to try it. If it rings up more expensive I can just say no thanks.
Yep exactly. And 3 for 2 is already a good deal but saving even more is always helpful:)
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 11:39 AM
I can attest to the fact that the middle game on the receipt is the one that gets put on for free, though for me all 3 games I bought yesterday were $59.99, so I wouldn't say that really proves anything in my case.
I'm curious about something. Why does every PS3 topic become about exclusives only?
I buy most 3rd party games for the PS3 (unless they are cheaper) because if I want to play them online, I can, for free. I know it's beating a dead horse but it is something I think about. Regardless of what some people want to believe, PSN is not dead. There are people that play online with the PS3. Is it as seamless as Live? No. Do I care? No. It's free and it gets the job done.
I'm tired of people saying the PS3 only has a few games when compared to the 360 because they only take exclusives into account when they are talking about the PS3 but count the third party titles when talking about the 360.
I know a lot of people own the 360 that are considering a PS3 but so did I. If I were to get rid of either, bye bye 360. It's not being played as much anyway. Partially due to the point above. Free online gaming. It's only still around because my daughter wants to keep it for a few Arcade titles and on the off chance I find games cheaper for it then the PS3 version.
To answer the OP's question. Yes, if you have the spare cash. No, if you do not. The system is much better than some want to give credit and believe it or not, it is a gaming system first and blu-ray player second.
Xydarc
10-28-2009, 12:07 PM
As a regretful PS3 and Wii owner, skip them. You'll buy it for one or two games, beat them, and then watch the thing collect dust.
What an incredibly insightful post.
It all comes down to games. Right now, the PS3 has some great exclusives, both disc-based and PSN, and a price that makes it worth the purchase. Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, LittleBigPlanet, inFamous, Heavenly Sword, The Last Guy, Critter Crunch, Wolverine, Flower, PixelJunk Eden, and PixelJunk Monsters have made me very very glad I've got a PS3.
In my opinion, anyway.
OldJadedGamer
10-28-2009, 12:09 PM
I personally have tried the vast majority of the PS3 exclusives and found them to be way overhyped and boring. My game taste is drastically different than most people's I found. I got my PS3 for $220 when they were still $399 so I was stupid to not pick it up. Uncharted bored me, I think MGS is one of the worst gaming series, inFamous looks like a first gen 360 game, and I could go on.
But... there are a bunch of games I love for my PS3 as well. They just don't tend to be the mainstream games every loves to put into lists. My favorites on the system are:
Wipeout HD
Hot Shots Golf 5
Afrika
Critter Crunch
Fat Princess
Are those games worth the system alone? Not really but it's nice to have the option. As many people have said here. I barely have time for games on the 360 let alone more time for games on the PS3. There just isn't time in the day.
If you have the extra cash to burn, I'd say go for it. The PS3 makes a great secondary system.
I'm curious about something. Why does every PS3 topic become about exclusives only?
I buy most 3rd party games for the PS3 (unless they are cheaper) because if I want to play them online, I can, for free. I know it's beating a dead horse but it is something I think about. Regardless of what some people want to believe, PSN is not dead. There are people that play online with the PS3. Is it as seamless as Live? No. Do I care? No. It's free and it gets the job done.
I'm tired of people saying the PS3 only has a few games when compared to the 360 because they only take exclusives into account when they are talking about the PS3 but count the third party titles when talking about the 360.
For me personally the 360 is my main system because it came out first, I have a lot of real life friends that play the system online all the time, I'm an achievement whore and have a great investment in my current score, every game upscales to 1080p, the vast majority of the time the 360 version is the best version in multiplatform games, the online is better with party chat and microphones to the point where when I play online PS3 games we use the 360 party chat.
The PS3 is the system that forces you to love it. You have to jump through a bunch of hoops to make anything work. I still to this day cannot get a bluetooth headset working with my system, the remote doesn't have IR so it doesn't work with any universal I have, the PSN invite system was created by monkeys, and even though my real life friends own PS3's, they are never playing online with them... ever. It's like it's their Blu-ray player. I have many people that haven't been online in months on my friends list. And again, everyone on both my friends list are people I know in real life or friends of friends.
For me, I want to play with my friends. I want to compete online with my friends on the leaderboards. I want to stay connected with them so I use the 360. If they moved to the PS3 then I would use that. It's like if there are two bars on the block and one had a cover charge and one didn't but all your friends were drinking at the bar with the cover charge. Do you pay the cover charge or drink alone?
This would be like asking why the Xbox or the GameCube were only considered for their exclusives. Sony just made too many mistakes and put them in last place so they became the secondary system because of it. Nothing going forward is going to change that. This gen is set.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 12:10 PM
I'm curious about something. Why does every PS3 topic become about exclusives only?
In this particular case I believe it's because the OP already owns a 360, so the motivation to grab a PS3 would come from wanting to play the exclusive games for it. That, and BR. That's just an assumption, though.
Purple Santa
10-28-2009, 12:10 PM
need [/I]one.
You need one because you want one. Hand in hand :). It's like you stated...you really want one. Which means you have picked out at least 5 games you want to play. Let's see...you like to play video games....you can afford to buy a new system to play them...hmmm...sounds like it's time to go buy a PS3. Enjoy! And don't forget InFamous.
If there are enough exclusives that interest you, you really want the BR player, and it's not going to kill you financially, do it! :)
Yeah, what he said :D
Nevvar!!!!!!!!
who the fuck would vote no?
Um, look at above quote.
So far I think the best option for a JRPG on the 360 is Lost Odyssey by far, though I've yet to play it. :(
Speaking of 100 hr games you NEED to play...
No, my wife and kids hate me.
Your family has expressed the why on this. If you would stop making them play Superman 64 ....:eek:
digitalErich
10-28-2009, 12:26 PM
You are likely already aware of the exclusives for it, so I'll skip those other than to say there are enough of them now to warrant a system purchase, especially with the new price.
While it's probably not a good enough reason alone to get one, over the past year the PSN has delivered better download-only games than Live has, in my opinion. There are some great original gems out there on PSN. With Live you get the rare original punctuating the seemingly endless stream of graphic-update arcade ports. The latter does exist on the PSN for sure, but Flower, the Pixel Junk line-up, Shatter, Fat Princess are just a few examples of great games you can't get anywhere else right now.
Karak
10-28-2009, 12:28 PM
I'm curious about something. Why does every PS3 topic become about exclusives only?
I buy most 3rd party games for the PS3 (unless they are cheaper) because if I want to play them online, I can, for free. I know it's beating a dead horse but it is something I think about. Regardless of what some people want to believe, PSN is not dead. There are people that play online with the PS3. Is it as seamless as Live? No. Do I care? No. It's free and it gets the job done.
I am not sure about the other threads on this. But this particular thread that the OP started...actually states exclusives so since he mentioned them himself it makes sense to discuss.
I do not have a ton of PS3 online experience, most of what I play are the single player games. But what would PSN being dead even mean? Amount of people online? They have a large enough base that I would think that was not going to be the case. Some LIVE games have the issue where it was not super popular and died out when it came to player count. But mant times you can STILL find someone playing it.
As a free service, I find it hard to believe it could be ANY worse than some PC titles when it comes to difficulty getting online and finding someone. That's just my opinion and experience with PC multi. I can't see PSN being worse and from the times I have used it, it was far easier than many PC games for getting online.
Serapth
10-28-2009, 12:30 PM
I think that when they say the exclusives of the PS3 or 360 don't appeal to them but they like the exclusives on the other system....well, it reeks.
Gears of War vs. Uncharted. They are not the same, but are the closest to one another. Cover systems, shooting baddies, third person action, etc.
Crackdown vs. InFamous
Forza vs. GT
Halo vs. Resistance or Killzone
etc, etc.
I can't really compare Ratchet to anything...maybe Kameo? Same goes for MotorStorm and Folklore and LittleBigPlanet and MGS4 and Demon's Souls...nothing quite like them on 360 for exclusives at all. Meanwhile there is no comparison for Fable 2 or Mass Effect I guess.
If you like the exclusives of either system and say that the other's exclusives suck or don't appeal to you, you might be incorrect. Take a closer look. ;)
You are missing the point Kelegacy. Many people are from the perspective of already owning an Xbox 360 ( as it was out first and was cheaper and has sold x2 as much , is a very likely situation ) it is only about the exclusives on the PS3. See, they already have a ton of games on the Xbox like Rainbow Six, Need For Speed, NHL, etc... that the only thing to really sell a PS3 on IS exclusives.
The same of course is true in reverse... if you have a PS3, then reasons to buy an Xbox 360 are MUCH lower. Thing is, the Xbox had a year headstart, a 1-200$ price difference and a bigger game base and was faster out of the gate, so the number of people that already have a 360 exceed the number of people that have PS3s.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 12:31 PM
I think the vast majority of people who have picked up a PS3 on these boards really like it, especially lately. Uncharted 2 is probably going to be the GotY on any system and I haven't seen a single person walk away disappointed.
For me, Demon's Souls was the system seller, but I haven't even been playing it much. I just haven't had much time to peel it apart lately. That's another contender for GotY, but it is pretty much a niche title and limited release so I doubt it will win anything huge other than RPG of the year (maybe) for the PS3. Dragon Age might ruin the hopes of that.
digitalErich
10-28-2009, 12:32 PM
PSN populations for games are just fine. Where Sony really dropped the ball is not including a standard headset for everyone. If you get one, and if most of the other players have it it's great...I dare say better than Live with respect to sound quality and latency. But those are two very big ifs that rarely align.
Someone will decry it for not having a strong party system and that's probably true for them, I just can't remember the last time where I sat down and played multiple hours of MP on a console. Drop in and drop out is fine for me with console MP these days.
With the Steam service I'm done selling myself short on MP experiences so I can play something on my TV.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 12:34 PM
You are missing the point Kelegacy. Many people are from the perspective of already owning an Xbox 360 ( as it was out first and was cheaper and has sold x2 as much , is a very likely situation ) it is only about the exclusives on the PS3. See, they already have a ton of games on the Xbox like Rainbow Six, Need For Speed, NHL, etc... that the only thing to really sell a PS3 on IS exclusives.
The same of course is true in reverse... if you have a PS3, then reasons to buy an Xbox 360 are MUCH lower. Thing is, the Xbox had a year headstart, a 1-200$ price difference and a bigger game base and was faster out of the gate, so the number of people that already have a 360 exceed the number of people that have PS3s.
Well, I bought a PS3 Slim for exclusives recently and owned a 360 since March 2006. So, the exclusives drew me in. I owned over 100 360 games until recently (traded a bunch in towards the PS3 Slim), and I still bought a PS3.
The real kicker is that I came for the exclusives but might be staying for the multi-platform stuff. Since online play is free, and I'm a cheapskate.
Serapth
10-28-2009, 12:38 PM
Well, I bought a PS3 Slim for exclusives recently and owned a 360 since March 2006. So, the exclusives drew me in. I owned over 100 360 games until recently (traded a bunch in towards the PS3 Slim), and I still bought a PS3.
The real kicker is that I came for the exclusives but might be staying for the multi-platform stuff. Since online play is free, and I'm a cheapskate.
Thats a very roundabout way of saying "You're right Serapth".
;)
I'll vote no, but only because I'd wait until after Black Friday in case there's a good deal on them.
Karak
10-28-2009, 12:40 PM
Well, I bought a PS3 Slim for exclusives recently and owned a 360 since March 2006. So, the exclusives drew me in. I owned over 100 360 games until recently (traded a bunch in towards the PS3 Slim), and I still bought a PS3.
The real kicker is that I came for the exclusives but might be staying for the multi-platform stuff. Since online play is free, and I'm a cheapskate.
Ya that sounds like what he was saying.
And you owned 100 360 games.
Rolling in the cash?:)
digitalErich
10-28-2009, 12:42 PM
I'm in the same boat...I bought a PS3 for the exclusives but am actually regretting my choice of buying Brutal Legend on the 360 (bought it the same day as Uncharted 2 in a weird act of parity). My 360 is loud as hell and I don't have any intention of playing it seriously online. For games where I will play I lot of MP, I prob would still go 360 but don't ask me to name a game coming up where that will be the case.
Assassin's Creed 2 will probably be the point at which I flip-flop, the 360 will be the exclusives machine.
OldJadedGamer
10-28-2009, 01:05 PM
While it's probably not a good enough reason alone to get one, over the past year the PSN has delivered better download-only games than Live has, in my opinion. There are some great original gems out there on PSN. With Live you get the rare original punctuating the seemingly endless stream of graphic-update arcade ports. The latter does exist on the PSN for sure, but Flower, the Pixel Junk line-up, Shatter, Fat Princess are just a few examples of great games you can't get anywhere else right now.
Actually, the arcade port of Mortal Kombat II is one of the best selling games on PSN right now. The problem with the vast majority of games you mentioned is that there are no demos for them for people to try out before they buy and you expect them to buy them blindly. I have a no demo = no buy rule. PSN has lost out on a lot of money because of this not only with me but with others as well.
Oh, and you left Critter Crunch out of your list and that makes you a bad person.
Someone will decry it for not having a strong party system and that's probably true for them, I just can't remember the last time where I sat down and played multiple hours of MP on a console. Drop in and drop out is fine for me with console MP these days.
I have so many friends on every night that it's not unusual for us to go from 9pm to 2am playing COD4. These are people I know in real life, we talk about their kids in the hospital, people losing their jobs... hell, my other friend just knocked up his girlfriend and we all found out about in over XBL. These experiences are really tough to beat when you have the friends there to support it and giving that up is unthinkable.
One of the big problems I have with PSN is how easy it is to create new accounts. So for a MP game someone can make out their rank cause they are so good and then just create a new account going back to rank 1 and own all the noobs. Also, people can be total jerks and it doesn't matter. There is no feedback system, if they are banned they can just create a new account and be a jerk under a different name. No one will notice.
johnperkins21
10-28-2009, 01:25 PM
I feel my PS3 purchase was justified by Uncharted 1 alone. Seriously, I think that game was worth $300. Everything else has just been gravy.
If you can afford to buy the system, there's really no reason not to own it. I can guarantee that you'll find at least a handful of games out there that make it worth the purchase, as long as you're not putting yourself into debt to buy it.
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 01:36 PM
And you owned 100 360 games.
Rolling in the cash?:)
Not even close. I am a smart consumer. I don't buy $60 games. I got most of those for $10-20, nearly all brand new. Sales and clearances are my best friend. Only about 5 have I bought at $60. If that.
In this particular case I believe it's because the OP already owns a 360, so the motivation to grab a PS3 would come from wanting to play the exclusive games for it. That, and BR. That's just an assumption, though.I get that but some of the comments that followed turned into the same old "PS3 has no games" stuff. I know I must be the odd man out because I do not have near the problems that some people seem to have with PS3 online gaming. Maybe I have more friends with a PS3. /shrug.
Gorvi
10-28-2009, 01:46 PM
I get that but some of the comments that followed turned into the same old "PS3 has no games" stuff. I know I must be the odd man out because I do not have near the problems that some people seem to have with PS3 online gaming. Maybe I have more friends with a PS3. /shrug.
Oh, I agree with you. Granted, I don't game online too often, the time just isn't there, and given the choice I'd rather be playing a great single player game than yet another round of the same old multi. I do get the itch from time to time, and the games I have played most people have had mics and I've never really had a problem.
Zanzibar
10-28-2009, 02:07 PM
I voted yes. I don't own one and never will, but it seems like the OP is itching to play the PS3 exclusives. That means you have enough time for gaming to warrant buying it. I barely can play 3-4 hours a week, so even my X360 goes days at a time being used only for upscaling DVD playback.
Karak
10-28-2009, 02:36 PM
Not even close. I am a smart consumer. I don't buy $60 games. I got most of those for $10-20, nearly all brand new. Sales and clearances are my best friend. Only about 5 have I bought at $60. If that.
:)
Well I am not calling people who buy their games at 60.00 a "not smart consumer"
I was just surprised I think by the amount as a total. It's always shocking for me when I see a 3 digit library. Its cool actually.
Wraith
10-28-2009, 02:49 PM
I voted yes as well. Sounds like you want one. It's a good system, and has a nice library of exclusive and multiplatform titles (should we call them dualplatform when they're only on PS3 and 360?). And we probably won't be seeing a new SKU (other than the 250GB model that's out next week) or price drop anytime soon. If you have the money now, go for it. Then hit up the numerous PS3 game recommendation threads.
Best PS3 games by genre (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=12719) (10/2009)
Must have PS3 title(s)? (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=11286) (08/2009)
new PS3 owner, suggestions needed! (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=10647) (07/2009)
New PS3 owner wants your recommendations! (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=4482) (01/2009)
Playstation 3 PS3 Recommendations (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=4486) (01/2009)
Kelegacy
10-28-2009, 02:50 PM
Murtaug, don't forget to add me to your buddy list! You're on my 360 list already. PSN: Kelegacy, of course.
vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.