FOX Animation Domination -Cleveland Rocks! In Stoolbend, VA. [Archive]

rein

09-27-2009, 11:38 AM

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Where:FOX
When:8/7c

SE21EP01: Homer the Whopper
Comic Book Guy casts Homer as the lead in “Everyman,” a feature film based on a new comic book superhero who possesses the ability to take on the powers of every superhero in every comic he touches. To whip Homer into superhero shape, the movie studio hires celebrity fitness trainer Lyle McCarthy, but Homer has trouble sticking to his new healthy regimen.

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Where:FOX
When:8:30/7:30c

SE01EP01: Pilot
Cleveland and Cleveland Jr. leave Quahog in search of a new life in the west making a stop at Cleveland’s hometown Stoolbend, VA, where he is runited with his high school crush, Donna Tubbs.

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Where: FOX
When: 9/8c

SE08EP01: Road to the Multiverse
With the help of an out-of-this-world remote control, Stewie and Brian travel through alternate universes, including a post-apocalyptic world, a parallel world run by dogs where humans are pets and a Robot Chicken-like existence.

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Where: FOX
When: 9:30/8:30/c

SE05EP01: In Country… Club
When Steve is selected to sing the national anthem at the Langley Falls Veterans’ Day celebration, he gets some heat from Stan who doesn’t think he’s ready for such an undertaking. Unimpressed with Steve’s vocal talents, Stan decides Steve needs to experience real war in order to sing about our country’s military prowess. But things quickly go south when Roger gets involved and Steve goes bananas.
There you have it. The new FOX Animation Domination with a lot less Hank and a little more Cleveland.

It's hard to believe The Simpsons is launching its 21st season. I know there have been a few lackluster episodes through out but over all it has remains a pretty solid animated series. It has come a long way from its start as a short on the Tracey Ullman Show. I still love it.

Sandman

09-27-2009, 11:43 AM

I'm recording Simpsons and Family Guy tonight. I'm still holding out hope for Family Guy....not much though.

Mike Kelehan

09-27-2009, 11:55 AM

I hear tell it's all in HD starting this year, so adjust your DVRs accordingly.

Rogue_hunter

09-27-2009, 12:27 PM

Can they just call it the "Seth McFarlane Night, with that show that McFarlane rips off" now? Because 3 of his shows, back-to-back-to-back is just too much.

Wasson_

09-27-2009, 12:44 PM

ya know...it's been so long since I've watched The Simpsons on a sunday night, I think i'll make a point to sit down and do so. Hopefully we're still friends...like we were in the old days.

muddi900

09-27-2009, 01:52 PM

One of those things isn't like the others...

Widgetcraft

09-27-2009, 02:59 PM

Seth McFarlane is just parodying himself, at this point.

EDIT: This episode of The Simpsons is terrible. Is this what is typically expected from this show these days?

rein

09-27-2009, 08:24 PM

I kind of liked The Simpsons episode. Comic Guy made it big. It's not classic "Eat My Shorts" Simpsons but I didn't think it was bad.

The Cleveland Show relied too much on racial jokes. WTF? Is that really where they wanted the show to go? Too many weird voices too.

Family Guy pretty much kicked ass. I loved the Disney dimension. Really good episode.

American Dad was meh. Wasn't bad but wasn't exactly great either.

My score. 1-excellent 2-meh and 1-WTF?

Ink Asylum

09-27-2009, 08:43 PM

I wish they would've taken a risk with a new sort of animated show rather than giving Seth McFarlane another half hour sitcom, but this is Fox we're talking about. They like playing it safe. I still love Family Guy, American Dad never did anything for me and I doubt I'll watch more than an episode of The Cleveland Show.

rein

09-27-2009, 09:03 PM

It's kind of funny how FOX does play it safe these days. FOX used to take a lot of risk (http://www.colonyofgamers.com/cogforums/showthread.php?t=12064), many of which paid off and pretty much made the network. Granted, the image in the link was probably not what FOX had planned but Married With Children is a great example of FOX pushing the envelope.

Stmfuller

09-27-2009, 09:05 PM

Family guy was hilarious, Cleveland show was watchable and has potential, Simpsons was quality and fun, American Dad was fine enough but I've never been huge into it.
Anyway, it looks like it's going to be lots of fun.

BTW, fucking family guy...how about getting with the 21st century and going widescreen like everything else. I didn't buy a sweet HD tv to watch your show using only 1/3 of the screen.

Primus

09-27-2009, 09:21 PM

The Simpsons hasn't been funny in like 16 years.

Stmfuller

09-27-2009, 09:23 PM

The Simpsons hasn't been funny in like 16 years.

shut up and stop hating.

Ink Asylum

09-27-2009, 09:40 PM

I believe I've seen every episode of the Simpsons in the first 10 seasons, about when I stopped watching. With the 21st season there is now more Simpsons I haven't seen than I have seen. I'm not sure how to feel about this.

Doctor Setebos

09-27-2009, 09:49 PM

Pop quiz! Which Fox cartoon features a wife, her idiot husband, their three rascal children, and the wacky adventures they're involved in every week?

HINT: ALL FOUR OF THEM.

"Animation Domination" my ass.

Wolvie

09-27-2009, 09:55 PM

Skipped Simpson's, can't stand that show anymore. Checked out Cleveland show... it didn't suck. Family Guy wasn't the funniest episode, but the animation was awesome. American Dad sucked as usual. And no King of the hill? Good, that show bores me to tears.

Ink Asylum

09-27-2009, 09:58 PM

Wolvie

09-27-2009, 10:13 PM

Hey! American Dad doesn't have three children! It has two children and an alien!

And The Cleveland show has a... Bear? An alien in American dad makes sense because the US has been accused of covering up the existence of aliens. Cleveland's wacky companion is a bear? I mean, WTF???

I'm starting to believe South Park's theory of how they write their show. Most likely they had a cork board with random friends for Cleveland, and they accidentally hit a bear picture in a National Geographic laying on a table with the dart. Then said "fuck it" and started writing the show.

Ink Asylum

09-27-2009, 10:19 PM

I put the bear in the trifecta with Brian and American Dad's fish as an animal friend. I really don't understand the point of that fish. It's so awkward having him stuck in a fishbowl or pushing himself around in a regular bowl. Does he ever do anything besides lust after the wife?

Wolvie

09-27-2009, 10:27 PM

Yeah I guess a talking dog makes about as much sense a talking bear.

Primus

09-27-2009, 10:32 PM

I'm starting to believe South Park's theory of how they write their show. Most likely they had a cork board with random friends for Cleveland, and they accidentally hit a bear picture in a National Geographic laying on a table with the dart. Then said "fuck it" and started writing the show.

I thought it was a manatee tank and balls with random words printed on them.

Wolvie

09-27-2009, 10:41 PM

I thought it was a manatee tank and balls with random words printed on them.

Well I think that was just a way for the South Park crew to take the ol random darts on a cork board joke to it's furthest insanity. I personally think they just post random ideas for a show and toss darts till they get enough words to fill in the blanks. :D

Ink Asylum

09-27-2009, 11:16 PM

I've always considered the manatee scene kind of a weak insult. Family Guy's quick cutaway gags are like a super-concentrated form of sketch comedy. They take the kind of absurd concept you'd see as a five minute sketch on Saturday Night Live, Kids in the Hall, etc. and distill it down to five seconds, going for a solidly funny line or gag.

Aggort

09-27-2009, 11:23 PM

Can they just call it the "Seth McFarlane Night, with that show that McFarlane rips off" now? Because 3 of his shows, back-to-back-to-back is just too much.

I like American Dad and Family Guy a great deal, but man do I wish FOX would have the balls to split those up over multiple nights. It is exactly as you say, too much.

Sandman

09-27-2009, 11:27 PM

Remember when Family Guy was awesome and we wanted it back on tv? Yeah....this is what you get. Family Guy must have been laid to rest in a Pet Cemetery because it came back not quite right and it's 2 retarded step-brothers joined it.

Gerbs

09-27-2009, 11:29 PM

I like American Dad and Family Guy a great deal, but man do I wish FOX would have the balls to split those up over multiple nights. It is exactly as you say, too much.

I'm always out of steam when it gets to American Dad. 1.5 hours of Animation is enough.

Aggort

09-27-2009, 11:33 PM

I'm always out of steam when it gets to American Dad. 1.5 hours of Animation is enough.

Right? They seriosuly need it over a course of two nights.

Gerbs

09-27-2009, 11:37 PM

Right? They seriosuly need it over a course of two nights.

20 years ago The Simpsons was on Wednesday. Move it back there and pair it with The Cleveland Show.

mightbe

09-28-2009, 02:54 AM

I watch whatever episodes of Family Guy and American Dad make it to Hulu and I have to say that Family Guy has had some really underwhelming episodes in the previous season.

King of the Hill's series finale was sweet and as a whole, the show may be rather forgettable, there's a few moments that stick out as pure genius.

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Pale Ale

09-28-2009, 04:31 AM

The Simpsons hasn't been funny in like 16 years.

Your math sucks! Season 8 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons_%28season_8%29) was only 13 years ago!

OrangePulp

09-28-2009, 04:38 AM

rein

09-28-2009, 06:26 AM

Family Guy was awesome last night. It was one of the best episodes I remember in a long time. Why you guys hatin'?

DoctorFinger

09-28-2009, 06:39 AM

Here's the thing. Fox jerks around Futurama for years and years until it dies a slow painful death. I know it's coming back, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. But Seth McFarland gets a third show on with a rock-solid time slot on Sundays? Life isn't fair.

Wilkz07

09-28-2009, 06:42 AM

clevland show - dumb
family guy - great
american dad - great, watched it on the plane

starting simpsons in a few min.

Widgetcraft

09-28-2009, 07:29 AM

Family Guy was awesome last night. It was one of the best episodes I remember in a long time. Why you guys hatin'?

Brian/Stewie episodes are always good, but they only serve to remind me of the fact that they're never going to get their own show.

rein

09-28-2009, 10:03 AM

From TLF (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/09/cleveland-desperate-housewives-premiere.html)
Fox placed second in the adult demo and generated nearly across-the-board time-period increases. The Seth MacFarlane-produced titles all gained, but veteran "Simpsons (8.2 million, 4.2) slipped 7% from last year (though was aided by an NFL lead-in last fall). "Cleveland" (9.4 million, 4.9) was up 44% from "King of the Hill" last year. "Family Guy" (10.2 million, 5.2) was also up, climbing 16%. "American Dad" (7.1 million, 3.6) was up 13%.
This is why Seth MacFarlane has 3 shows on back-to-back-to-back.

Ink Asylum

09-28-2009, 10:11 AM

TheFlyingOrc

09-28-2009, 10:12 AM

From TLF (http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/09/cleveland-desperate-housewives-premiere.html)

This is why Seth MacFarlane has 3 shows on back-to-back-to-back.

Hey, Transformers 2 was the 3rd highest grossing film of this year!

Family Guy is terrible because any show where you give the creator complete free reign is terrible.

TheFlyingOrc

09-28-2009, 10:13 AM

I just wish he'd take that huge following and do something different with it, other than "Family Guy! Except Peter's a government agent!" or "Family Guy! Except Peter's black!" I still love Family Guy, but Seth, despite all the ridiculous ideas he can come up with for side gags, can't seem to come up with something original for a basic premise. At least when Futurama was radically different than The Simpsons.

I really disagree with you on the cleverness of the side gags. I haven't watched in a while, but the show seemed to increasingly depend on the cutaways being "wacky" rather than clever.

Wraith

09-28-2009, 10:58 AM

King of the Hill's series finale was sweet and as a whole, the show may be rather forgettable, there's a few moments that stick out as pure genius.King of the Hill deserves more respect than it usually gets. I enjoy it a lot, especially for the characters. Maybe it gets overlooked for being too "normal," compared to the other Fox animated shows.

I'll have to track down the season finale.

Widgetcraft

09-28-2009, 11:21 AM

King of the Hill deserves more respect than it usually gets. I enjoy it a lot, especially for the characters. Maybe it gets overlooked for being too "normal," compared to the other Fox animated shows.

I'll have to track down the season finale.

Most people assume that it is a show about rednecks, written for rednecks, by a redneck. I think it is one of the best animated sitcoms, ever.

TheFlyingOrc

09-28-2009, 11:24 AM

Most people assume that it is a show about rednecks, written for rednecks, by a redneck. I think it is one of the best animated sitcoms, ever.

Those people are dumb. It's very heavy satire.

rein

09-28-2009, 11:32 AM

We can all debate the reasons why we dislike MacFarlane or why our favorite animated series is best but numbers talk. FOX has to go with what brings viewers and right now that is Seth MacFarlane much like it used to be Judge and Groening. MacFarlane is hot right now.

Wasson_

09-28-2009, 01:00 PM

King of the Hill...I will miss it.

I liked the Simpsons and Family guy last night, and I seriously think the universe is big enough to house them both...but those other 2 shows have GOT to go. Fuck them. Show reruns of X-files for gods sake or something.

You know what they need to bring back? The Critic. That show, was the shit.

KSmitty

09-28-2009, 01:31 PM

King of the Hill deserves more respect than it usually gets. I enjoy it a lot, especially for the characters. Maybe it gets overlooked for being too "normal," compared to the other Fox animated shows.

I'll have to track down the season finale.
Yeah, I think adding it to Adult Swim will get it some more love, but the show was underappreciated.

I thought the Simpsons was okay, I watched the Cleveland Show for a few minutes before I decided I would rather go shave (and I hate shaving); Family Guy showed one of its good episodes before it goes back to beating you over the head with the same 3 jokes later in the season. And while I don't dislike American Dad, I was more keen on watching Sunday Night Football.

TheFlyingOrc

09-28-2009, 02:27 PM

We can all debate the reasons why we dislike MacFarlane or why our favorite animated series is best /QUOTE]
You are correct, we can do that

[QUOTE]but numbers talk.
And they say that people are retarded.

rein

09-28-2009, 03:58 PM

And they say that people are retarded.I completely agree. 1 excellent + 2 meh + 1 WTF? = an over all meh.

Dukefrukem

09-29-2009, 06:12 AM

All three of these episodes were great. I love this lineup.

Xerxes

09-30-2009, 09:51 PM

King of the Hill wasn't for everyone but I thought it was great. The Goode Family is okay although some of the settings seem too familiar.

zarathstra

09-30-2009, 10:19 PM

I missed the new eps, but I really like American Dad in general. I haven;t been a fan of the Simpsons in a while tough. Just hasn't done anything for me lately ::shrug::

Xerxes

09-30-2009, 10:31 PM

I watched Cleveland to see is it more like FG or AD. I like American Dad for some reason. Maybe cause it doesn't have all those stupid, remember when flashbacks. FG has run that shit into the ground.

Deadend

09-30-2009, 11:32 PM

I watched Cleveland to see is it more like FG or AD. I like American Dad for some reason. Maybe cause it doesn't have all those stupid, remember when flashbacks. FG has run that shit into the ground.

Hey, that reminds me of the time when Family had flashbacks that were in place of topical and relevant humor, because references always beat talent.

nitetrain

10-01-2009, 05:56 AM

I may only watch the cleveland show just to pass time while waiting for entourage to come on, i doubt cleveland show will last beyond 1 season though.

Dukefrukem

10-01-2009, 06:36 AM

King of the Hill wasn't for everyone but I thought it was great. The Goode Family is okay although some of the settings seem too familiar.

Is that already on??

Dukefrukem

10-01-2009, 06:36 AM

I may only watch the cleveland show just to pass time while waiting for entourage to come on, i doubt cleveland show will last beyond 1 season though.

That's what people said about American Dad. American Dad had a very weak first season. It's since been top notch.

nitetrain

10-01-2009, 07:13 AM

i thought the goode family bombed and was canceled?

Dukefrukem

10-01-2009, 07:17 AM

i thought the goode family bombed and was canceled?

On August 15, 2009, ABC Entertainment President Steve McPherson stated that the show was officially cancelled.[1][2] Producers John Altschuler and Dave Krinsky claim the show will return on a new network, "That was our first season. We will let all of you know as soon as we have our new network and time slot...This show has been the most creatively satisfying thing we have ever done and we look forward to continuing it

Wow i didn't even know it already aired.

TrackZero

10-01-2009, 07:27 AM

King of the Hill...I will miss it.

I for one, will not. All that show served to remind me of is exactly why I moved away from the country.

Dukefrukem

10-01-2009, 07:29 AM

I for one, will not. All that show served to remind me of is exactly why I moved away from the country.

You mean Texas? :D

muddi900

10-01-2009, 07:35 AM

I may only watch the cleveland show just to pass time while waiting for entourage to come on, i doubt cleveland show will last beyond 1 season though.

Uh, they ordered the 2nd season 6 months ago.

nitetrain

10-01-2009, 07:48 AM

Uh, they ordered the 2nd season 6 months ago.

true, but that may not stop fox from cancelling the show.

remember, NBC ordered extra epsiodes of Knight Rider last summer but cancelled them halfway through production.

ABC was in talks to renew scrubs for another season but without the original cast, incuding dr. cox, they just scrapped it.

Dukefrukem

10-01-2009, 07:49 AM

McFarlane is tearing it up right now on FOX. It's unheard of to have three episodes in a row in prime time TV ... also keep in mind the Cleveland show was the first episode... so they needed to setup the premise somehow.... this was a great first episode...

Suave Peanut

10-01-2009, 08:21 AM

I liked Family Guy better when I was in high school and the only way to see it was to swap episodes online.

Mike Kelehan

10-01-2009, 08:30 AM

ABC was in talks to renew scrubs for another season but without the original cast, incuding dr. cox, they just scrapped it.

Scrubs is returning with a new main character. It's essentially a spinoff now, with Drs. Turk and Cox teaching med school, taking place 2 years after JD left.

mightbe

10-01-2009, 11:13 AM

You know what they need to bring back? The Critic. That show, was the shit.

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You're so fucking spot on.

Wraith

10-01-2009, 12:07 PM

"Rosebud... Yes, Rosebud Frozen Peas, full of country goodness and green peaness. Wait, that's terrible, I quit. Just a handful for the road... Oh, what luck, there's a french fry stuck in my beard!"

Suave Peanut

10-01-2009, 12:14 PM

"Rosebud... Yes, Rosebud Frozen Peas, full of country goodness and green peaness. Wait, that's terrible, I quit. Just a handful for the road... Oh, what luck, there's a french fry stuck in my beard!"
You, sir, have recited one of my favorite television quotes of all time and I now declare you to be my friend.

muddi900

10-01-2009, 12:21 PM

true, but that may not stop fox from cancelling the show.

remember, NBC ordered extra epsiodes of Knight Rider last summer but cancelled them halfway through production.

ABC was in talks to renew scrubs for another season but without the original cast, incuding dr. cox, they just scrapped it.

But animation is different. It costs more and takes more time to actually produce it. So advance orders means fox actually believe in the show.

Also, is there a way to know when's there going to be the next "Road to.." episode

EDIT: They did do an online Critic series and even that didn't succeed.

TheFlyingOrc

10-01-2009, 12:32 PM

But animation is different. It costs more and takes more time to actually produce it. So advance orders means fox actually believe in the show.

Cost more? Are you sure? I was under the impression that animation was cheaper - although you need a lot of animators, you need less lighting specialists, cameramen, prop guys, etc.

Especially for shows like Seth's where the characters can very little detail.

Wraith

10-01-2009, 01:02 PM

You, sir, have recited one of my favorite television quotes of all time and I now declare you to be my friend.Love that line, and Maurice LaMarche's Orson Welles. (And he did like half the extra voices on The Critic.)

LongStepMantis

10-01-2009, 01:23 PM

Uh, they ordered the 2nd season 6 months ago.

Is that normal? I mean, to order a second season for a show long before it even goes on-air?

I know nothing about the way television works, but it seems a tad presumptuous to request a new season when the first wasn't even on TV yet. Either that or they'll just pull the plug on every aspect of it if they change their minds.

I also wonder if Seth ever forgets which one of his nearly identical "goofy family" shows he's working on at any given time and mixes them. ;)

LongStepMantis

10-01-2009, 01:26 PM

Love that line, and Maurice LaMarche's Orson Welles. (And he did like half the extra voices on The Critic.)

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muddi900

10-01-2009, 04:00 PM

Cost more? Are you sure? I was under the impression that animation was cheaper - although you need a lot of animators, you need less lighting specialists, cameramen, prop guys, etc.

Especially for shows like Seth's where the characters can very little detail.

Cost more, as in there's a lot of investment of time. The time it takes to produce half-hour of animated show, you can make a feature length movie(not a good one though. Then there's logistics because all the in-between work is done in Korea. Seth McFarlane keeps it pretty cheap, that's why he has 3 shows. Probably doesn't pay his writers.

Widgetcraft

10-01-2009, 04:08 PM

I also wonder if Seth ever forgets which one of his nearly identical "goofy family" shows he's working on at any given time and mixes them. ;)

That would actually be a pretty amusing premise for an episode of Family Guy :D

Mike Kelehan

10-01-2009, 04:09 PM

Is that normal? I mean, to order a second season for a show long before it even goes on-air?

It's not normal at all. The thing is, it takes months, or even a full year, from script to screen for an animated show. They can go back and stick in a few topical references later on, but for the majority of the episode you see, it's been in the works for a long time. Renewing the series a year ahead of time makes it much, much easier on the production staff.

The big exception here is South Park, which is made in Flash, often in less than a week. There have been times when it was uploaded to Comedy Central mere hours before airing. You think YOU get nervous when you're close to a deadline... imagine if a couple million people were waiting on it.

Xerxes

10-02-2009, 01:52 AM

Is that already on??
Yup, first season is already done.

I for one, will not. All that show served to remind me of is exactly why I moved away from the country.
The Canadians episode explained why you probably didn't fit.

The big exception here is South Park, which is made in Flash, often in less than a week. There have been times when it was uploaded to Comedy Central mere hours before airing. You think YOU get nervous when you're close to a deadline... imagine if a couple million people were waiting on it.
I always wondered about that but I'm sure they have some filler episodes in the can. If they can pull off something that's current and happened mere days before they air, they can take a off week and run something like superheros episode.

muddi900

10-02-2009, 07:46 AM

The big exception here is South Park, which is made in Flash, often in less than a week. There have been times when it was uploaded to Comedy Central mere hours before airing. You think YOU get nervous when you're close to a deadline... imagine if a couple million people were waiting on it.

South Park also has horrible production value. A better example would be Venture Bros., also animated in flash.

rein

10-04-2009, 08:03 PM

Well tonight's episodes were a complete waste. The Cleveland Show as probably the worst 30 minute animated show I have ever witnessed. Luckily I was able to salvage 15 minutes of that time by flipping over to watch Phineas and Ferb. The other three of the Animation Domination block were a little better but not by much. Am I going to have to start watching Desperate Housewives?

Sandman

10-04-2009, 08:06 PM