One forum to unite them all...

[Banacek]

Keep the sites separate. Just a thought.

[Banacek]

I can't be the only one who thinks so.

[TheFlyingOrc]

I agree. Separate sites, one forum.

[violent]

Which ones and from who? When? Who?

[Goronmon]

Given that sites like IM have there newsposts hooked into the forums similar to this and EvAvs setup. I'm not sure how well removing the forums would work out.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Which ones and from who? When? Who?

As of this moment, we have a split community among like 5 sites.

[Banacek]

Given that sites like IM have there newsposts hooked into the forums similar to this and EvAvs setup. I'm not sure how well removing the forums would work out.

It's doable, even if I have to go in there and code the PHP myself :)

[TheFlyingOrc]

It's doable, even if I have to go in there and code the PHP myself :)

You could just merge them all, and flag each newspost so that it only shows up on appropriate website's frontpage.

edit: oh sweet 25 posts here comes the best blog ever

[violent]

As of this moment, we have a split community among like 5 sites.

Yeah. How would it work though?

[BlackPete]

Given that sites like IM have there newsposts hooked into the forums similar to this and EvAvs setup. I'm not sure how well removing the forums would work out.

It seems to me that the newsposts would just be redirected to a forum, while all the other forums could be unified.

Although this does raise a lot of technical issues that I can't be half assed to even think about, much less worry about. :o

[Banacek]

You could just merge them all, and flag each newspost so that it only shows up on appropriate website's frontpage.

edit: oh sweet 25 posts here comes the best blog ever

I think PiRi's review system isn't tied into the forum. If they want to do it, that is...

[violent]

It seems to me that the newsposts would just be redirected to a forum, while all the other forums could be unified.

Although this does raise a lot of technical issues that I can't be half assed to even think about, much less worry about. :o

Your avatar rocks serious.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Yeah. How would it work though?

Like magic IDK I'm not a scientist.

OK so maybe I'm a computer scientist but I never said I was any good at it.

edit: How do I blog I can hardly wait

[Norse]

I agree 100%. Having the community split between 4 or 5 sites is bad if the goal is to keep the good EvAv community together.

[Banacek]

Like magic IDK I'm not a scientist.

OK so maybe I'm a computer scientist but I never said I was any good at it.

No no, I think you're on to something with the magic angle...

[Ten19]

I believe the idea is that CoG will be the central forum for discussion, and for a site like IM, for example, the forums there will be focused on where original content (news, viewpoints, etc) is stored as well as the related comments. I don't think any of the affiliated sites intend to create unnecessary forum overlap.

[Goronmon]

Although this does raise a lot of technical issues that I can't be half assed to even think about, much less worry about. :oThat was pretty much my point, haha.

[violent]

Like magic IDK I'm not a scientist.

OK so maybe I'm a computer scientist but I never said I was any good at it.

edit: How do I blog I can hardly wait

You intrigue me with your thought process. I wish to sign up to this blog thing of which you speak.

[Goronmon]

You intrigue me with your thought process. I wish to sign up to this blog thing of which you speak.Need to hit 25 posts first.

[Banacek]

I believe the idea is that CoG will be the central forum for discussion, and for a site like IM, for example, the forums there will be focused on where original content (news, viewpoints, etc) is stored as well as the related comments. I don't think any of the affiliated sites intend to create unnecessary forum overlap.

The problem is that with separate forums you get separate communities, no matter how hard you try not to. Two things that make forums work is the strength of the regulars and the quality of the new users. If you're splitting both of those across five sites then it's going to dilute the whole experience. Again, just a thought. Don't want to step on any toes on launch day :)

[TheFlyingOrc]

Need to hit 25 posts first.

I think he wants to read my super awesome mega blog of the future but he cant because nobody will tell me how to get to it because life sucks

[BlackPete]

No no, I think you're on to something with the magic angle...

I'm a computer scientist as well and I can confirm there's a lot of voodoo involved. :D

[BlackPete]

Your avatar rocks serious.

Thanks!

Although I'm starting to feel old -- hardly anyone I talk to even remember or even know about this "Black Pete" Disney character. :(

[Banacek]

I'm a computer scientist as well and I can confirm there's a lot of voodoo involved. :D

Shit, that makes three of us :)

[JRR006]

I'm confident that these things will work out in time. I can't imagine the technical aspects because I was a sucky, sucky programmer. For now I'm perfectly content to keep three tabs open and have three new bookmarks.

[Scaryfaced]

Thanks!

Although I'm starting to feel old -- hardly anyone I talk to even remember or even know about this "Black Pete" Disney character. :(

You must hang out with a lot of youngin's cuz I'm only 24 and I'd be crazy not to know Ol' Pete when I see him.
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[TheFlyingOrc]

Son of a dick how do I blog. I stayed up for an hour making bad posts to tell the world my opinions! I will not be denied!

[astranoir]

Thanks!

Although I'm starting to feel old -- hardly anyone I talk to even remember or even know about this "Black Pete" Disney character. :(

I remember being super afraid of him. Of course, I got scared easily when I was little. I had nightmares from The Neverending Story!

[Jackel]

I agree, having the majority of the content in one place would be a good idea, and have each community its own news content.

[violent]

Thanks!

Although I'm starting to feel old -- hardly anyone I talk to even remember or even know about this "Black Pete" Disney character. :(

Just remember, if someone doesn't recognize Black Pete, they're the one with the problem.

[flinxz]

I like keeping the forums separate. It is different for sure, but who says a community has to be at one url. Why can’t it be more like a country with individual and unique cities? I like that better than one city with a bunch of neighborhoods.

It is also a fine way to individualize the recent threads area of a front page. I mostly care about topics at Immortal Machines and would hate to see them buried instantly by the shear amount of threads here. I do look forward to visiting this (CoG) general gaming forum once or twice a day.

[The Iron Weasel]

I want us all to mosey around one area personally, keep us all together. We're a rad crew, and we might as well keep that going.

[boratika]

I'm just going to voice my support of a unified forum for the different sites. That is of course dependant on what the respective site runners think.

It is also a fine way to individualize the recent threads area of a front page. I mostly care about topics at Immortal Machines and would hate to see them buried instantly by the shear amount of threads here. I do look forward to visiting this (CoG) general gaming forum once or twice a day.

That's pretty easily solved, just filter out all the non-pc forums in the sidebar (like how one might filter out a P&R forum from the side bar.)

[pseudopseudo]

I like keeping the forums separate. It is different for sure, but who says a community has to be at one url. Why can’t it be more like a country with individual and unique cities? I like that better than one city with a bunch of neighborhoods.

It is also a fine way to individualize the recent threads area of a front page. I mostly care about topics at Immortal Machines and would hate to see them buried instantly by the shear amount of threads here. I do look forward to visiting this (CoG) general gaming forum once or twice a day.

This.

I don't think we need to squeeze everybody into one place. The EvAv mainstays that everyone knew and loved will end up here in some capacity, eventually. Otherwise, each site has a different focus, and each specific site's forums represent that.

[Blue]

Count me in under the seeing them merged boat. I think that what's happening all around is fantastic and seeing the community try and get together is great, but knowing myself, I'm just not going to pop over to 5 different sites to see what's going on. I'm just not. I tend to settle down and that's that.

So for me, if I had everyone and everything under one umbrella, that would be ideal.

[pseudopseudo]

Count me in under the seeing them merged boat. I think that what's happening all around is fantastic and seeing the community try and get together is great, but knowing myself, I'm just not going to pop over to 5 different sites to see what's going on. I'm just not. I tend to settle down and that's that.

So for me, if I had everyone and everything under one umbrella, that would be ideal.

So stick with one forum, and just surf the other sites for their content instead of the chatter.

Y'know, we're only asking you to pick your favorite child. ;)

[Vandabo]

That's pretty easily solved, just filter out all the non-pc forums in the sidebar (like how one might filter out a P&R forum from the side bar.)

It seems to me this was asked for continuously over at EvAv (to allow people to set up their own sidebars) but it never happened. Is it technically feasible?

If it was, then that would be a huge feature for me, and I imagine many others.

[Voodoo]

I'm a computer scientist as well and I can confirm there's a lot of voodoo involved. :D

If there's more Voodoo necessary than just me, we are in for some serious shit! :D

[Lint of Death]

Why can't we make it work something like the RoosterTeeth site? There should be tabs at the top of the front page that say things like "Write/Read a Review!" which takes you to the PIRI main page.

Then strip down the forums on the other sites so that they only contain topics relevant to that site's purpose and put the rest here. Topics that would no longer be at the other sites could be still visible but just link to their equivalents on CoG. Now if only there were some way to keep user accounts consistent... but I doubt that, sadly.

How about that?

[pseudopseudo]

Why can't we make it work something like the RoosterTeeth site? There should be tabs at the top of the front page that say things like "Write/Read a Review!" which takes you to the PIRI main page.

Then strip down the forums on the other sites so that they only contain topics relevant to that site's purpose and put the rest here. Topics that would no longer be at the other sites could be still visible but just link to their equivalents on CoG.

How about that?

First, this site JUST started - while suggestions are being taken, I think it's a little insulting to join up, then ask them to completely change everything.

Second, I think part of the charm to the way the site is now is that it's not clogged up with 8,000 different forums. It'd be nice to keep it that way - let the other sites handle the other stuff.

Surf with tabs, or pick one site. Either way, it's not like it's a lot of work.

[Blue]

This is like Sophie's choice.

[Slack3r78]

First, this site JUST started - while suggestions are being taken, I think it's a little insulting to join up, then ask them to completely change everything.
It's not insulting, it's genuine input. The fact is that the site is just starting up means it's much easier to plan on needed changes now than to try to make them midstream later on. I'm sure that Bap, Fits, et al understand that and certainly won't interpret it as "OMG WHAT YOU'VE DONE SUCKS." Speaking for myself, I'm very appreciative of the fact that they care enough about this community to put in the effort that they are now, which is totally above and beyond. That doesn't mean some suggestions couldn't help, though.

On topic, I just posted this over at PiRi, I'll mirror it here:

Unified forum with each sister site maintaining their own topic-driven content on the front page. It'd allow the communities following each site to intermingle while still allowing each site to maintain its own brand identity. CoG handles gaming news, IM is dedicated PC news and topics, PIRI becomes the review arm, and so on, all with a single, central forum. It would seem to be the logical step to take with all this, to me.

We want to keep the community together, not scatter it to the winds.

[Voodoo]

It's not insulting, it's genuine input. The fact is that the site is just starting up means it's much easier to plan on needed changes now than to try to make them midstream later on. I'm sure that Bap, Fits, et al understand that and certainly won't interpret it as "OMG WHAT YOU'VE DONE SUCKS." Speaking for myself, I'm very appreciative of the fact that they care enough about this community to put in the effort that they are now, which is totally above and beyond. That doesn't mean some suggestions couldn't help, though.

On topic, I just posted this over at PiRi, I'll mirror it here:

Unified forum with each sister site maintaining their own topic-driven content on the front page. It'd allow the communities following each site to intermingle while still allowing each site to maintain its own brand identity. CoG handles gaming news, IM is dedicated PC news and topics, PIRI becomes the review arm, and so on, all with a single, central forum. It would seem to be the logical step to take with all this, to me.

We want to keep the community together, not scatter it to the winds.

...after the elimination of the forums at each site it will eventually be 'why do we have five separate sites upon which news is posted!? We must unify all that news to one site. We must not scatter to the winds.'

I know that when I say this I speak for everyone at Immortal Machines. We are fully interested in operating more like a State of the Colony of Gamers. There are those that only visit Immortal Machines that had no part in the original Evil Avatar community.

Nobody is forcing anybody to visit five sites but there are those that really enjoy having a PC Gaming centric site which is part of something larger.

Look at us as like the 5th Fleet. CoG is the Aircraft Carrier while IM is a nice sexy Destroyer, cruising along together as a fleet/colony to slap any bitch ass that attempts to mess with us. :)

[Food Nipple]

Technically, it should be possible to do. Gamespot did it when they merged their forums with GameFAQs. See here (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/starwars2007/forum.html)and here (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/gentopic.php?board=933156), for example. I don't spend any time at either one, so I don't know the ins and outs of the system, but I think there's areas that overlap as well as ones that are unique to that site.

If CoG had a PC games forum, a reviews forum, and a co-op forum, it would be nice to see those posts pop up on the sister sites, and the rest of the boards are unique to that site, so everyone can still have their own identity.

Sounds like a damn fine idea to me, but it's not my call and it's a MASSIVE amount of work. I know that on PIRI, you used to have two separate logins, one for the reviews system and another for vBulletin, and it took a fair amount of legwork for Siraris to reconcile the two so that it's transparent like it is now, I can only imagine how complicated it would be when you've got even more sites.

Nevertheless, it would the best thing for the community, and without unified forums things are going to remain splintered.

[bapenguin]

Guys - this shit was set up in a week. Not even. It's not the final solution, nor has it claimed to be. It's a stop gap right now.

One with more features than Evil Avatar. And one with a more open mind.

[pheriannath]

Everyone seems to be forgetting that each site, in addition to having their own focus, has their own community. At Co-Optimus, a lot of our more active users are not transplants from EvAv, and I know I wouldn't be comfortable asking them to come here for the sake of convenience.

Also keep in mind that none of us are using the same host, and we're not all using the same forum software, so in order to set up what people are asking for would require pretty much everyone to tear down their walls in order to be fully integrated between the network sites.

[maverick106]

I believe the idea is that CoG will be the central forum for discussion, and for a site like IM, for example, the forums there will be focused on where original content (news, viewpoints, etc) is stored as well as the related comments. I don't think any of the affiliated sites intend to create unnecessary forum overlap.

How can it be the central forum for discussion if it has no sports forum and no P&R? Just sayin. Is the omission intentional, or just cause, you know, CoG is new?

[Slack3r78]

...after the elimination of the forums at each site it will eventually be 'why do we have five separate sites upon which news is posted!? We must unify all that news to one site. We must not scatter to the winds.'
Eh, not really. I'm all for getting everyone as tightly integrated as possible. Keeping topical content in its own channels via each sister site just makes sense, if you ask me. It definitely allows for much better cross pollination between sites.

Guys - this shit was set up in a week. Not even. It's not the final solution, nor has it claimed to be. It's a stop gap right now.

One with more features than Evil Avatar. And one with a more open mind.
I definitely don't want to come off sounding like zomg THIS MUST HAPPEN NOW. :) Just mainly trying to give some input about what I think would be ideal.

[Slack3r78]

Everyone seems to be forgetting that each site, in addition to having their own focus, has their own community. At Co-Optimus, a lot of our more active users are not transplants from EvAv, and I know I wouldn't be comfortable asking them to come here for the sake of convenience.
Each site could still have its own community section, too. That's what subforums are for.

[TheKeck]

Fear not, for I have arrived. One combined forum would be the best thing of them all.

[Haemorrhage]

Guys - this shit was set up in a week. Not even. It's not the final solution, nor has it claimed to be. It's a stop gap right now.

One with more features than Evil Avatar. And one with a more open mind.

Everyone seems to be forgetting that each site, in addition to having their own focus, has their own community. At Co-Optimus, a lot of our more active users are not transplants from EvAv, and I know I wouldn't be comfortable asking them to come here for the sake of convenience.

Also keep in mind that none of us are using the same host, and we're not all using the same forum software, so in order to set up what people are asking for would require pretty much everyone to tear down their walls in order to be fully integrated between the network sites.

Thanks for the transparency guys. I think everyone understands that there will be lots of growing pains with the new site as things need to evolve. But it is great to know that you guys are listening and working to make the entire community better for old and new users. Patients is not a virtue of the internet I guess.

[LordDon]

Fear not, for I have arrived. One combined forum would be the best thing of them all.

It's TheKeck! Oh my Kecking Keck!

[pheriannath]

Just so everyone knows, this is on the table for discussion by the mods/network sites.

If it DOES happen, it won't be anytime soon, as it's pretty much a logistical nightmare.

[Karak]

Just so everyone knows, this is on the table for discussion by the mods/network sites.

If it DOES happen, it won't be anytime soon, as it's pretty much a logistical nightmare.
Sounds like it. After having just made 3 accounts and such I can see what people mean though. I even found myself going back to EA for a moment just to get my bearings:)

[TheFlyingOrc]

The most important thing is that everyone read my blog.

[Everyone vs Dinosaurs]

I believe the idea is that CoG will be the central forum for discussion, and for a site like IM, for example, the forums there will be focused on where original content (news, viewpoints, etc) is stored as well as the related comments. I don't think any of the affiliated sites intend to create unnecessary forum overlap.

That is a good point.


Maybe front-page links to each other would be good, just to show that they are in some way affiliated. Some people who aren't "In the loop" might get confused or something :cool:

[Slack3r78]

The most important thing is that everyone read my blog.
Oh, I'll read it alright, if you know what I mean.

[TheFlyingOrc]

That is a good point.


Maybe front-page links to each other would be good, just to show that they are in some way affiliated. Some people who aren't "In the loop" might get confused or something :cool:

Well, my main frustration is that they're trying to centralize conversation here, while saying "keep P & R over on PiRi". Which means, more or less, no P&R, unless people want to keep tons of tabs open.

[Zero]

Oh, I'll read it alright, if you know what I mean.
Did you read his blog the same way I read his blog?

[Zero]

Well, my main frustration is that they're trying to centralize conversation here, while saying "keep P & R over on PiRi". Which means, more or less, no P&R, unless people want to keep tons of tabs open.

This is my absolute biggest beef. I don't like having to switch back and forth between forums just for one sub-forum.

[maverick106]

The most important thing is that everyone read my blog.

I can't get my blog to work. I have no "post new blog" button :(

[Zero]

I can't get my blog to work. I have no "post new blog" button :(

You have to have 25 posts.

[maverick106]

You have to have 25 posts.

Then I'd better keep replying to you.

[TheFlyingOrc]

Then I'd better keep replying to you.

The important thing is that you read mine, because it's playing ALL THE HITS.

Also, it apparently takes a few minutes after you hit 25 posts to show up.

[Zero]

Then I'd better keep replying to you.

Yes, you should. I need my blog too. :)

[crazyD]

Yep. I like the site and the philosophy, but I think I'll just stick with PIRI until a single forum is worked out. I don't have the time or patience to monitor 2 active forums. Seeing a lot of negativity from the mods in regards to a combination. Maybe getting this done would be a good way to show your dedication to the community? Just a thought. No real rush, in any case.

[Hotcod]

My view on all this i think is to take a number of steps towards a more unified community with out forcing any one to go anywhere they don't want to go and so on. I think the first, biggest, hardest but most useful step would be to move towards a unified log in across all sites and more importantly the forums. Next would be to keep each site with its own forum but for each forum to cross link to different sections... so each forum would for the most part simply have a list of 'sub forums' that take you across to the relevant sites forums. In the long run i would honestly think it best to have al the forums for the site on the same server under the same software, each independent but if you wanted to you could view all the forums and topics with a few bigger cross site meta topics and sections.

In other words something along the lines of forumplanet. Which was the gamespy forums for all the different planet sties. I was a very heavy poster on planet half life for a while and i kept mainly to the planethalflife main web page and to its forums... but i could use my log in from that forum to post on any of the other forums and all the forums where held in one big forum network with an bigger general forum to make it easier for people to cross posts. There where still very distinct communities on each forum and each site but it allowed for biger meta community to be forged. so yes, no idea what forum planet is like these days if its still going as it was but i think those of you that know how it was should get an idea of the how why and reasons for what i'm suggesting

All very complex all very hard but it would i think keep every one happy, it would not force a merging of the sites in to subsections of a mega site. Which seems to be the objection of a lot of people to most of the ideas here. Yet it would let the forums sites and community be more connected as a group. It's a set up i don't think any other group of sites has ever really tried, which may be for good reason but what we have here is a chance to try and do something different.

Now as for my views on the mega site talk. i don't know. There is a lot of complex issues involved with pulling in all the other sites in to one big meta site as most of these sites are peoples babies among other things... So i think that is something for long down the road, if CoG grows and becomes big and successful and that filters out in to the other sites as well as bring in more... well... pulling every one together under one roof could then be in every ones best interests and push coG in to the big league of gaming sites.

But for now i think just some kind of unified log and cross linking would be the perfect way to put bridges in to place to build a very cool meta community out of all the very good sites involved here

[Banacek]

Yep. I like the site and the philosophy, but I think I'll just stick with PIRI until a single forum is worked out. I don't have the time or patience to monitor 2 active forums. Seeing a lot of negativity from the mods in regards to a combination. Maybe getting this done would be a good way to show your dedication to the community? Just a thought. No real rush, in any case.

Agreed. Please don't take it the wrong way either. It's just the during the day I don't have the time to check multiple forums to talk to the same group of people. I'll always forget one or two as well (sorry Immortal Machines). We're not expecting it right away either. Just wanted to get a read from the powers that be to see what they think.

[Slack3r78]

Agreed. Please don't take it the wrong way either. It's just the during the day I don't have the time to check multiple forums to talk to the same group of people. I'll always forget one or two as well (sorry Immortal Machines).
I feel largely the same way. I really wish I were more involved with IM, but get so tied up over at PiRi and now here that I just don't even think to swing over to another site and see what's going on. I like the whole community and I like what each of these sites represent, but I don't really see the point of a loose confederation. We essentially had that with EvAv-Coop-IM and the offshoot sites never picked up quite like EvAv.

[Iron Past]

All I want is a sidebar with links, so I can't be bothered to atually type in the addresses. ;)

Now, what would be really slick is if the links were made to look like tabs at the top or side of the page, thereby creating a visual unity among the sites and allowing easy access but also maintaining each sites individuality. Jut my thoughts, though.

[TheKeck]

It's TheKeck! Oh my Kecking Keck!
Kecking! :D

[pomeroy]

Guys - this shit was set up in a week. Not even. It's not the final solution, nor has it claimed to be. It's a stop gap right now.

One with more features than Evil Avatar. And one with a more open mind.

Sick, sick burn.

[VerseD]

If there's going to be four different forums for one community, then each forum has to have a clearly stated focus. Co-Optimus is about co-op gaming, obviously, but what differentiates the CoG forum from PiRi's, other than who posts there? So far there's four forums laid out just like Evil Avatar's.

[Tel Prydain]

As I said in the P&R post...
Why is there even a PC game forum at all? It should link off to IM.
Why is there a Matchmaking forum? It should link off to CO.
There should be a Ingame-chat forum that is just a link to Ingame-Chat.
There should be a comic forum that is just a link to the Johnny Gigawatt blog
There should be a 'User Reviews' forum that is just a link to PIRI. And PIRI would seem a logical location for game reviews/opinions.
The only local forum should be a news discussion forum.

THAT would be a hub... this is just another Ev Av forum *sigh*


Second, I think part of the charm to the way the site is now is that it's not clogged up with 8,000 different forums. It'd be nice to keep it that way - let the other sites handle the other stuff.

Say what? There are already as many forums here as there were at Ev Av.

I don't think any of the affiliated sites intend to create unnecessary forum overlap.
Where do I go if I want to talk Fallout 3? PIRI, the home of reviews and opinions? IM, the home of PC related topics? Here... there 'general' forums?There is no obvious answer and massive overlap.

If there's going to be four different forums for one community, then each forum has to have a clearly stated focus. Co-Optimus is about co-op gaming, obviously, but what differentiates the CoG forum from PiRi's, other than who posts there? So far there's four forums laid out just like Evil Avatar's.

Exactly.

I like how people keep commenting that the owner of the previous forum must be kicking himself.
I think he's laughing that we have created a system that makes us all cross post or remain cut off from the rest of the comunity.

[rein]

Here is what I'm not getting. Please understand I am not trying to be rude.

Most (all) of us came here from EvAv. EvAv did not have all of the forums combined yet all of the colony sites formed and grew on their own. Now that we have CoG, it's a problem for some and things must be combined. For people that are saying they have to track different forums, what were you doing before CoG?

Regardless of how things work out about this issue, I've already been to a colony site that I had never visited while I was at EvAv and have started popping by more often to the two I was visiting.

I plan to make CoG my permanent bookmark and with that, I don't have to have 5 different bookmarks to visit each site. If I see something interesting at the colony site I am visiting, I will chime in.

As a few others have pointed out, some of those sites have their own community and what is being asked is that those communities dissolve. That would be unfortunate for those members. Not to mention, CoG was formed from those site owners. I'm willing to bet they put some thought into it.

If we are going to combine everything, what will make this a colony? Why not shut down all of the sites and just make one large site? I really like the concept of what is going on here (if I understand it correctly). With the reputation of the guys running these sites, I can see it growing and adding even more colony sites.

The thing that would be kick ass is of user names carried over to each site and forum. I am sure it is late for that though.

I remember being super afraid of him. Of course, I got scared easily when I was little. I had nightmares from The Neverending Story!

That movie scared me too but probably for different reasons. :)

[TheManEatingCow]

It's not insulting, it's genuine input. The fact is that the site is just starting up means it's much easier to plan on needed changes now than to try to make them midstream later on. I'm sure that Bap, Fits, et al understand that and certainly won't interpret it as "OMG WHAT YOU'VE DONE SUCKS." Speaking for myself, I'm very appreciative of the fact that they care enough about this community to put in the effort that they are now, which is totally above and beyond. That doesn't mean some suggestions couldn't help, though.

On topic, I just posted this over at PiRi, I'll mirror it here:

Unified forum with each sister site maintaining their own topic-driven content on the front page. It'd allow the communities following each site to intermingle while still allowing each site to maintain its own brand identity. CoG handles gaming news, IM is dedicated PC news and topics, PIRI becomes the review arm, and so on, all with a single, central forum. It would seem to be the logical step to take with all this, to me.

We want to keep the community together, not scatter it to the winds.


You're doing a great job of channeling Hamilton here. When should I expect the CoG Federalist Papers publication? :D